How Much FASTER are Track Tyres?

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This is a £60 tyre, this is a £100 tyre and THIS is a £150 track tyre. We’re going to do some laps on each tyre to see which gains us the most time for the money.
Here are three sets of tyres, a budget set, a premium set and some semi-slick track tyres. We're going to do some laps on each of these tyres - to see which gain us the most time for the money. We’re trying to beat a supercar with just £15,000.
Last time out we fitted a set of BC Racing coilovers which really exposed how bad our old tyres are. In this episode, we’ll compare an eco tyre, a performance tyre and a track tyre to figure out which one we should go with. Let’s look at what we’ve got.
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@nankangtyreuk6436 Жыл бұрын

Hello all at Driven Media, Enjoyed the video it's good to see stuff like this. Believed you wanted a word?

@OneShotStudio Жыл бұрын

YES YES YES YES

@richsackett3423 Жыл бұрын

Yes. Clearer inflation instructions for numpties.

@bik3r230 Жыл бұрын

MY FAVORITE BRAND YOOOOOOOO LETSSSGOOOOOO

@nankangtyreuk6436 Жыл бұрын

@@richsackett3423 More than happy for feedback, how would you like it displayed clearer?

@richsackett3423 Жыл бұрын

@@nankangtyreuk6436 Dunno. It wasn't me who had the trouble (although I've certainly got cars home with new tires inflated at max rated pressure). Tire changers would seem to be the target audience for any instructional verbiage.

@pandre5458 Жыл бұрын

I hope we get a weight loss episode where it's just the three of them cutting as much stuff off the car as possible while keeping it drivable

@nicrobe9443 Жыл бұрын

And road legal Rear seats, spare tire, roof lining, floor mats, all go!

@desirefusion532 Жыл бұрын

The original challenge was the keep it more practical than a super car so they couldn’t really reduce weight much

@rustymustard7798 Жыл бұрын

Adding lightness is the ultimate mod, i say strip it bare, window motor, power locks, wipers, dash, carpets headliner and anything non critical.

@randomtuner8786 Жыл бұрын

@@desirefusion532 I don’t believe that was really the case, otherwise they wouldn’t have even tried the semi slicks. So I think this is something they will/should do in a future episode

@rustymustard7798 Жыл бұрын

@@desirefusion532 Carpets and interior are all impractical, they get wet, dirty, and wear out. When i stripped my CRX down to bare metal with a single plastic racing bucket and did a stage 1 NA tune, weighed under 1000lbs, it would float over rough stuff and fly like a WRC car over cattle grates at full send, and you want practicality? I can hose out the 50-100lbs of desert i pick up in the form of cowshit, dust and gravel during a drive. I was a rollcage and a few other mods away from passing tech for rally when a drunk driver t-boned me and wrecked it.

@loganmagnan Жыл бұрын

There are a lot of youtube channels that try to emulate the old school top gear feel, but this is one of the only channels that actually pulls it off! Love the direction you're going with your videos!

@juampan Жыл бұрын

This comment sums up very well the overall feel of this series, reminiscent of old top gear but with enough personality of their own to feel fresh and new.

@TrevorDennis100 Жыл бұрын

When you look at how cringe making bad the American version of Top Gear is with it's huge budget and C-List celebrities, you appreciate just how well theses lads are doing. The banter feels real on this channel, but so obviously staged and false on TG America. Together with Driver 61, Scott's channels are also way more informed and informative. The Formula 1 analysis is especially good.

@Renee_R343 Жыл бұрын

I think Car Throttle is pretty good as well. Also reminiscent of the old Top Gear. 3 Brits doing shenanigans with cars, all sorts of challenges and some pretty good banter as well.

@Rusiputki Жыл бұрын

Really? It feels identical to Car Throttle...a copy pasta. Like watching Music Idol from a different country. With budget Simon Cowell

@CadillacDriver Жыл бұрын

You're kidding right?

@akaSUPERMAN Жыл бұрын

Love this! Hope they do chassis stiffening (poly bushings, motor mounts, sway bars, etc.) as well as those brakes lol

@OxxidCZ Жыл бұрын

doesn't help times as much as it improves the driver's feeling. Also it's much more important on higher speed tracks.

@akaSUPERMAN Жыл бұрын

@@OxxidCZ it seems like this track has more twisties (I wish they had done a birds eye of the track layout). But they are relatively cheap options to get the car as flat as possible, esp because most things power related, like injectors, rails, tune, turbos, cams etc will be pretty expensive ... (plus CONTENT!) lol

@TheRealSykx Жыл бұрын

@@akaSUPERMAN +1 they should get a drone for aerial camera shots

@turbo_brian Жыл бұрын

Front lower control arm rear bushings in poly or delrin will improve grip significantly. All others will be marginal improvements at best.

@akaSUPERMAN Жыл бұрын

@@turbo_brian that's true, except if the stock rubber is trashed, which is pretty common in older cars. Then it'd be worth it

@sawtoothspike Жыл бұрын

This is so cool. It feels a lot more "real" than what top gear used to do. That being said, i am waiting for you to do the final time run using a massively over tuned setup and the let the engine detonate as it goes over the line.

@markredacted8547 Жыл бұрын

And for our final modification we decided to remove the fuel system and just run pure JP5 fuel 💁‍♂

@T3hJimmer Жыл бұрын

It is a subaru...

Жыл бұрын

@@markredacted8547 E85 would do the job even better - it's a turbo

@sepg5084 Жыл бұрын

Top gear is just bs so yeah

@yzrippin Жыл бұрын

@@sepg5084 lol you dont like top gear 🤣

@elliotcowell3139 Жыл бұрын

I've seen plenty of rally subarus sparking their brakes like that, looks so dramatic especially at night! Went to a night winter rally where they had studded tyres but went over some tarmac bits, sparks flying everywhere it was frikin awesome

@hzozafar Жыл бұрын

Super happy with your tire choice!! If you are doing brakes next, please for the love of god don’t but a big Brembo brake kit. Big brakes only help with heat dissipation, letting you get full performance lap after lap. If you’re only doing a few laps, get some quality fluid and track pads, like carbotech xp24s. Will squeal really loudly below 300 degrees but when warm, they quiet down and BITE

@howarddavies136 Жыл бұрын

A bbk with opposed piston calipers makes a huge difference to pedal feel and confidence, so you can modulate better and trail brake for longer. Its not just about heat dissipation.

@liam14452 Жыл бұрын

Larger brake disk means the pads have more leverage to stop the wheel which means more braking force…

@turbo_brian Жыл бұрын

You can most likely get enough braking torque from the stock caliper to lock up the wheels, aka the maximum braking torque you can use. Even those grippy tires can still be locked up most likely. An aggressive pad compound and a quality rotor is all thats needed. Centric 125 series high carbon rotors and hawk hp + pads would be my recommendation if available.

@vr6one Жыл бұрын

They can't focus too much on braking. Brakes alone aren't going to solve their 6 second problem and they can easily eat up 3k in a brake setup. The op is right, pads, better rotors and fresh fluid will be enough for a single lap. This is a sprint not a Marathon

@howarddavies136 Жыл бұрын

@@vr6one you're right. On this budget and for this purpose, a BBK is probably overkill. If I was in their shoes, I'd probably do pads, a flush and maybe braided lines. I suspect the best improvement will be when they inevitably strip it.

@jjsteel Жыл бұрын

So hyped for this series. Keep going!

@BlitzkriegRap Жыл бұрын

Yess!

@paultrueman6700 Жыл бұрын

Love this series and the cheap car challenge 😁😁

@OVERDRIVE.studios Жыл бұрын

Cheers Paul, appreciate that. Scott.

@Seb-Storm Жыл бұрын

Yay is good to have an update on this series. 1) thanks for showing the 3 options and testing them. 2) you guys should definitely check on better brakes and the rest spend it on whatever power upgrades you can afford

@noncog1 Жыл бұрын

Better brakes wont really help a single lap

@SergeantMoetz Жыл бұрын

Love that you went with the only right tire choice. You can't go wrong with the best tire possible you can afford. Such an underrated part of a cars overall performance.

@galaxlordcz3933 Жыл бұрын

Great series, I'd guess brakes next? Considering that these seem quite dangerously worn off.

@alextreme093 Жыл бұрын

Here's some insight from racing the wrx platform. Try 2deg - front camber for less understeer and when you will get to max grip in cornering you will loose oil pressure 😞

@luckieluna Жыл бұрын

More of these please! This stuff is so entertaining

@sh0ejin Жыл бұрын

nice episode. Also saw Scott live on saturday and he went from P10 to P1! He was flying out there!

@rustymustard7798 Жыл бұрын

Adding lightness is going to be the ultimate mod, stripping the interior and anything not essential will do more to make it come alive than all other mods, and it's basically free. Can't wait to see the dash, carpet, window motors, seats and all the useless stuff get torn out. Hell, you could make money back if you ebay the parts.

@loupcordeille-bougault3474 Жыл бұрын

Part of the challenge was to keep it usable as a daily so I don't think this is gonna be a viable option :/

@rustymustard7798 Жыл бұрын

@@loupcordeille-bougault3474 Lol you don't need interior to daily it, in fact you have more room for groceries making it an even BETTER grocery getter without all that extra stuff lol. I've daily driven plenty of 'lightened' vehicles, better mileage, better performance, spill resistance. It's nice to be able to hose off the interior when it fills up with rocks and dust from the desert. You want it to be a 'supercar'? Lambo uses skateboard grip tape on bare floorboards and CHARGES EXTRA for the 'lightweight' option of no carpet or headliner. And besides, supercars aren't exactly daily drivers, a bigger challenge will be to bring your Lambo to Wal-Mart, Costco, the gym, the vape shop, the post office and Home Depot for a year like it's a Scooby lol.

@BoHorror Жыл бұрын

@@rustymustard7798 it’s more comfortable, with full interior. Besides the Lambo isn’t stripped. Better just get a light weight battery

@rustymustard7798 Жыл бұрын

@@loupcordeille-bougault3474 lol see that new episode? Haha! They even said the same thing I did, more room for groceries lol. It just makes sense to do, they don't stand a chance without losing weight. If they didn't then all the other mods would have been a waste.

@rustymustard7798 Жыл бұрын

@@BoHorror lol see the new episode?

@stickybuds05 Жыл бұрын

this exactly the kind of stuff you want to see from a car channel. great comparisons, great content, looking forward to see the development of this humble wagon

@loickl Жыл бұрын

Better setup of the BCs, alignement, lighter wheels, good fluid and pads with possibly some weight saving inside would do well imo

@FalconXE302 Жыл бұрын

The other thing about the Nankang... they will really need to good temperature to work properly as all true track tyres do.

@wannabefunnyman Жыл бұрын

This currently my absolute favorite KZfaq series. Love it! Can’t wait to see your next upgrades.

@HotwheelsReviewsGuy Жыл бұрын

Great series however I have some suggestions. Is there a way you can use a more accurate method of timing the laps. Pressing start and stop on your phone is bound to cause incosistencies due to human error and reaction speed. Another is that it is proabably best to do a run of 3 or so laps and take the average as the result you go by.

@verma.shaurya Жыл бұрын

I had these two exact thoughts!

@turbo_brian Жыл бұрын

In california we call the nankang an "entry level all season tire." Last time I checked the rival 1.5s was the fastest on the market but that was before the new re-71rs was widely available.

@VeliRajasaar Жыл бұрын

Yokohama Advan A052, Falken RT660 and Nankang CR-1 are the best-in-slot 200TW tires now, also faster than the AR-1 in this type of setting because their optimal temperature is super low and they work right away from a standing start :)

@josephbargo5024 Жыл бұрын

@@VeliRajasaar A052 is a qualy tire. Least durable 200TW, but fast. RS4s are great.

@christopherjohnston6343 Жыл бұрын

Calling AR1's an entry level all season tyre is a bit of a stretch. Potentially you're thinking of the NS2r? Regardless they're still a decent cheap performer. Maybe not on the same level as AO52s etc for autocross though

@justRD1 Жыл бұрын

Oh good! I thought maybe you gave up on this series when you started the new one last video. Lots of content coming in from you!

@tomcardale5596 Жыл бұрын

That's an excellent use of sponsorship! They're actually being useful.

@StanVanGundy1 Жыл бұрын

Love these episodes, maybe take all the seats out and gut out the car

@claudemoanet6870 Жыл бұрын

OMG thats the only channel im desperately waiting for to upload. Keep going lads💪🏼

@BlakeEM Жыл бұрын

I would have loved to see the sport tires with lower pressures than recommended, that is likely how they would be ran at the track anyway due to the extra heat, when compared to street driving, causing higher peak pressures.

@andrewahern3730 Жыл бұрын

They usually get more tire pressure than on street to keep the sidewall up and steering responsive.

@SpeedFreak0122 Жыл бұрын

Weight reduction, bushings and brakes will be a really interesting video! Great series

@KurumaDesigns Жыл бұрын

Loving this series! Can’t wait for next episode!

@123Ir0nman Жыл бұрын

I love your videos, great mix of education and humor! Keep up the awesome content!

@Aly_McCan Жыл бұрын

I get as giddy when this pops up in my notifications as when I saw Top Gear was up next on cable TV as a kid. Love the way you integrate the sponsorships; really organic. I'm rooting so hard for the Subie and for your channel!!!

@JohnLabu21 Жыл бұрын

Cant wait to see next episode, love your channel!

@cristianr3712 Жыл бұрын

Have been waiting for this video for a while. Great content!

@chocosmith2243 Жыл бұрын

Brakes and tyres similar to the slicks used in this episode gave us our biggest difference in racing. Then weight. Power, bushes, suspension, etc, were very minor

@HotGritz910 Жыл бұрын

Very cool series, entertaining and informational. Perfect mix! More like this please.

@phillbozz853 Жыл бұрын

Love this waiting for more

@GuilhermeTorelly Жыл бұрын

This video series is so cool! Thanks for the effort!

@jose98937 Ай бұрын

good honest advice. thanks

@eoincarroll7497 Жыл бұрын

Piggyback ecu vs stock would be an amazing test

@nickcook7408 Жыл бұрын

Drill a big 4” hole out of the air filter housing and feed a 4” tube from the grill to the filter housing. Costs nowt if you can scrounge the tube ;)

@CBD-Life-South-Africa Жыл бұрын

New tires have a mould release compound on the treads. They should have given each set atleast 10 fastlaps to get the tire surface to optimal grip level

@chrisgoudy1954 Жыл бұрын

Cool series guys!

@MatteoLorandi Жыл бұрын

Loving this series, it’s amazing

@codylarson6842 Жыл бұрын

Love this series!!

@Puj0 Жыл бұрын

These upgrade slower car to be faster series are always so exciting, can't wait for the next episode

@filippogarbelli3022 Жыл бұрын

You guys are putting out some seriously good videos. Glad to meet you if you come to Italy! ✌🏻

@zacharypeloquin340 Жыл бұрын

"I just tasted the track, it tastes fast" Life goals 🤣

@TekedixXx Жыл бұрын

I subbed to you guys because of this series, it's lots of fun.

@bazzacuda_ Жыл бұрын

I think that this will be a quick car for the money however it turns out. While I predict it won't get anywhere near the Lambo, I reckon it'll be outstripping anything unmodded available for less than twice what they've spent.

@mibars Жыл бұрын

I am amazed that the stock 5 speed did not explode with all those launches

@polygonvvitch Жыл бұрын

I love how Scott actually put his tongue on the tarmac and didn't even have a joke ready for when he got up, what a legend.

@jonathanpalmer5505 Жыл бұрын

Love it. I'm interesting to see how you further close the gap after you've upgraded the brakes

@gearbanginentertainment7476 Жыл бұрын

keep the series going man!

@mxjfilms7118 Жыл бұрын

Love this series

@matmat3485 Жыл бұрын

I saw one of the episodes of 'MORE FAST' - insta sub. GREAT CONTENT. I am trully amazed!

@larsbreukers Жыл бұрын

Brilliant episode!

@Be4tJumper Жыл бұрын

wow that was really interesting with the pressures! I wonder if the uhp tyre could've done better with lower pressure.

@TheNaish1111 Жыл бұрын

Love this! Can’t wait for the episode with a turbo conversion

@las3k91 Жыл бұрын

My favourite series on youtube :D

@PsychoCPU Жыл бұрын

As a WRX driver I am super stoked for these, please get them out quicker than once a month!

@Hawk7886 Жыл бұрын

As another WRX driver, I sure hope you're not planning on tracking the car. They really like to explode in interesting ways.

@kingo5940 Жыл бұрын

they need better brakes. then the time will explode especially with racing brakes

@PsychoCPU Жыл бұрын

@@Hawk7886 LOL No, it's a '21 I bought brand new off the truck, she'll never see a track. Still like to see videos of their potential though.

@popuptoaster Жыл бұрын

When I put grippy tyres on my old AMG it felt so much better round corners and under braking I wore them out in about three months just commuting to work and back but it cut my journey time quite substantially, down graded slightly after that because I have terrible impulse control. :D

@ryanmccrae9491 Жыл бұрын

This series is great!

@alexduey7868 Жыл бұрын

very entetaining and informative.

@jonathanfenne4948 Жыл бұрын

Roll bars and brakes are important at Curborough. Great series guys.

@ItziiSpiNz Жыл бұрын

Absolutely nailed it boys

@shinjiliang5098 Жыл бұрын

Lesgoo! Ep4!

@easygoingdude9990 Жыл бұрын

Scott throwing the thing at the curbs like it owes him money omg 😂

@mikey9164 Жыл бұрын

Really hope you guys do what it takes to make the subie faster no matter if it's over budget. It's no fun when these challenges fail and we don't get to see what it actually takes keep up with the supercar/racecar

@fiction3940 Жыл бұрын

I love this series

@ramazondavlatov2324 Жыл бұрын

I just tasted the track, it tastes fast 🤣

@tommegg8486 Жыл бұрын

Genuinely loved the sponsor, very fitting for the episode

@man0967 Жыл бұрын

amazing series

@WasnClown Жыл бұрын

This stuff is really nice to watch

@endgamerplays Жыл бұрын

0:00 I had no idea tires were that heavy!

@MaxXxoUh Жыл бұрын

I think one of the big advantage of the supercar is the surface contact between the tyres and the road, because they're super wide. There is a reason wide body kits exists and it's not for cosmetics. It's always impressive to see the difference between LeMans GT Porsches and stock Porsches. You should have gone for wider wheels when you bought better tyres !

@pogtuber5146 Жыл бұрын

would have required wider rims, it really wouldn' thave made much of a difference as they're not going to be doing wide body stuff

@Appletank8 Жыл бұрын

If the wheels got wide enough, would it technically become an open wheeled car?

@MaxXxoUh Жыл бұрын

Ahahah Appletank8 it would need the inner part of the wheel to start outside the body ! But I think the definition of open wheel car is up to subject, as some people argue it should be single seater, or on the contrary some argue a KTM X-Bow is open wheel while it's still contained in the body. And Pog Tuber, the whole point of my com was to get wider rims and wider tyres, and yes I expect it'd have made a lot of difference especially when they're happy with 3s gain with these thin wheels

@VeliRajasaar Жыл бұрын

That's a common misconception right here. Tire size is pretty much only for heat management, the contact patch doesn't change all that much after a certain point.

@bakedbeings Жыл бұрын

Aafaik the extra width is to spread the force+heat over more area, allowing the tyres to survive (a bit longer) the abuse of a powerful engine and hard braking. In a single lap a wider wheel might well suffer from being too hard to keep at ideal temps.

@braydonellis6778 Жыл бұрын

Looks like brakes should be next, looking forward to see the next episode!

@yeahitskimmel Жыл бұрын

Great vid for the most underrated speed upgrade, currently stuck waiting for anything but all-season tires to be back in stock for my stock Miata wheels. Just waiting for this channel to be renamed Brodie Media at this point.

@ivanl.y.272 Жыл бұрын

Will: Surely you can't be serious Callum, probably...: I am serious, and don't call me Shirley

@reecedrury4145 Жыл бұрын

years ago I was skint, went for infinitys as cheap. First corner in the wet the lack of grip scared me so much I went back to the garage and maxed my credit card on some mid range kuhmos

@MorganTye Жыл бұрын

Great video!

@ferrarif1360 Жыл бұрын

When I used to auto X I was shocked at the difference tires would make. The proper set could make a difference of upto 4 seconds per run. (Avg run being about 80 seconds) it was so different that you'd had to drive the car in a completely different way. It was awesome. Best mod for any car.

@mucke7907 Жыл бұрын

How cool is that mobile tyre service? Damn cool.

@DomGaccioli Жыл бұрын

“I just tasted the track, it… It tastes fast😁” -Scott

@user-td3dl2zu5l Жыл бұрын

A like and sub well deserved.

@jordblack5466 Жыл бұрын

Damn this little series is scratching an itch that I've had since the clarkson punched a producer 😅 Keep up the great work team!

@lifesbutagame1 Жыл бұрын

I was expecting that 5sp to split in two for the launches but it held, these WRX GG models need the KIEN gearbox support to hold launches.. it's also another good mod for peace of mind.

@siegekeebs Жыл бұрын

Alignment! Holy cow

@legacy2.5gx55 Жыл бұрын

I know that subi Game well. We build my friends wrx like Bilstein B16 Light wheels with those nankangs Whiteline swaybars front/rear Almost every bushing in the driveline swapped from Rubber to PU Ebc brakes with the yellpwstuff pads and steel braidet lines Basic Performance mods like full exhaust with downpipe and 200cpi kat + katless uppipe Some other Things for thermal Stability A good mapping Never the less, this wrx is am absolut animal on Mountain roads....

@aldozampatti Жыл бұрын

Better brakes first. More power later :) I'm sure that the grippier semi-slicks tires will allow for better brakes to be installed while keeping all for wheels in control.

@yardspeed13 Жыл бұрын

I've just got back from Nurburgring for the first time, using AR-1s on the track...i can confirm they are awesome. For context i previously used Ad08R on track and daily Goodyear Eagle F1's asym 5 on my road wheels - Just found your channel -sub'd- i look forward to more. :)

@grzegorzkapica7930 Жыл бұрын

I would love to see this comparison for a wet surface.

@LuizHartkopf Жыл бұрын

Where’s the next episode?? This is too good of a series, you guys should make it weekly

@adamcollingburn430 Жыл бұрын

Content is coming on leaps and bonds 👏

@RBslowman Жыл бұрын

I was crying for that WRX transmission with those launches on the Nankangs

@bastieschenbach9814 Жыл бұрын

Cool video and very interesting finding. However, with the freshly fresh tires it’s not gonna be the REAL performance these tires can go to. A retest after the running in on the UHPs and AR1s would be great. The AR1 especially gets SOOO much better after a like 200mi. A bit of scrubbing won’t do enough, IMHO

@EazyDuz18 6 ай бұрын

incorrect

@iLupi Жыл бұрын

Looks like big brakes are coming up soon for this wagon! That and maybe some Aero bits like a front splitter and roof wing.

@TomPidden Жыл бұрын

This extended series is great fun. Surely ARB's are in order now? couple of hundered pounds only

@ramoncf7 Жыл бұрын

Can't wait for the turbo video 🙂

@abicol6010 Жыл бұрын

Everyone's looking at the brake sparks, but just look at how satisfying the tire deformation is it in the clip at 8:43

@Laylander Жыл бұрын

Sway bars and strut braces next! No idea what the Subaru aftermarket prices are like or how stiff the chassis is from factory, but for my Volvo you'll have front and rear for €500. Before I installed sway bars I wasn't sure how much difference a thicker squiggly line under my car would make. It makes quite the difference! It doesn't mount the curbs as easily anymore, although that downside is overshadowed by the amount of grip you gain. Adding a strut brace allows you to get the most out of it. My Volvo was pretty flexible from factory, so again, no idea what it does for a Subaru.