How much fuel does this part save?

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What is the purpose of the Front Lower Valance Air Dam Deflector?
We are all looking for ways to save gas. Could leaving to lower valance installed on your superduty help save fuel? Lets find out!
In my videos I talk about my experience daily driving my F450. My truck has updated 6.7 Powerstroke with 1,050 LB-FT of Torque and 475hp. I also feature my 2019 F250 with the 6.2 L gas v8. AND NOW WE HAVE A F350 WITH THE 7.3 GAS V8. Comment below and thanks for watching!
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@DS-TRUCKS Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching - Share the video.

@ViperMods_216 Жыл бұрын

It does a good job keeping the salt spray off the underside too

@drywashme 5 күн бұрын

Some have eluded to the the cooling effects and YES, it does have an effect. More negative pressure behind the radiator the more airflow through the radiator at a given speed. Trailer towing, you need that extra cooling especially in the deserts 100 plus degree temperatures. Some testing for longer range on 1/2 ton trucks have shown up to 4 mpg difference with the air dams complete removal.

@frankmarinojr3178 Жыл бұрын

Your video is very well done, I have a 2020 F350 diesel and I pull a 35’ 5th wheel trailer and mine still has the factory air dam. My son-in-law has the exact same truck and he cut 4” off of his air dam because he didn’t like the looks of it. We did a family road trip last year across the USA with him pulling almost the same size 5th wheel trailer and I was able to get 3/4 of a mile more per gallon than he did with trimmed air dam. The air dam definitely works.

@WhatsthePOINT_EDC Жыл бұрын

I use a 2014 f250 long bed extended cab with the 6.2L gasser as my daily driver. Gas milage is trash but I love my truck!

@Adamthebuilder Жыл бұрын

Great video DS, really enjoy your channel as I also have a 2022 7.3 250 and agree that it is a great truck, definitely going to at least trim my air damn but to each their own!

@willb7975 Жыл бұрын

Thanks DS... very interesting results. On my '17 F350 6.7L PS, I did my own mod and made my 4WD valance into a "Tremor" like size. Wonder if I only lost .5 mpg vice a whole 1 mpg since it is not completely removed.

@rangervapes571 7 ай бұрын

Would be interesting to see if you also removed the KIA Catchers and added a 2WD and/or Tremor valance

@waynemeredith4287 Жыл бұрын

I own 22 f250. Thanks for taking the time to this test and give us the results. I wonder if anybody ever tried painting it to match the truck?

@DS-TRUCKS Жыл бұрын

Yes. That has been done

@questamerica9873 Жыл бұрын

I did the same on my 22 f350 diesel, took of valence and put on Boss plow and put on the smaller 2020 tremor valence and trimmed it to fit around plow frame. Looks good. Avg 19 to 21mpg.

@roywall8169 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video. For me, a SD truck is a highway vehicle. It is designed to drag and haul heavy things. A front valance is not something that bothers me. If the truck was supposed to be an off road vehicle (where approach angle is important) I could understand people’s annoyance.

@bruceblair1265 Жыл бұрын

Lots of us off road our 4x4 F250 trucks for camping, fishing, hunting, etc. so yes that can be an issue. But to date I have never had any impact on mine. I do have 35" tires and a level so that could be why I am ok l. I'm too smart to do any rock crawling with it

@gladegoodrich2297 Жыл бұрын

First thing I did on my new 22 F150 was raise the front end 2". Hated that low front stinkbug look. Didnt make a bit of difference in gas mileage. If anything it made it better!

@charlesthomas8590 Жыл бұрын

I like the look of the tremor valance better than the massive ones put on

@Patriot-pq1ku 4 ай бұрын

190 bucks for the tremor one much better look

@markbergthold6181 Жыл бұрын

I was considering cutting it down to a depth of 2”. Thanks!!

@bigguy1403 Жыл бұрын

That's excatly what I did...I saw no difference on fuel. My mpg has remained the same and it looks alot better.

@NotchingTags Жыл бұрын

I appreciate your video. I must point out that with the air dam you reset your trip at 75 mph and without the air damn you reset the trip at a much lower speed. I think around 50 mph. It takes a lot of energy to get the truck up to speed and in only a 3 mile test, this difference will have a dramatic impact on your results. It would be interesting to see the results with a longer distance like 50 miles or so.

@YngwieLesso 4 ай бұрын

I was gonna say the same thing.. test was skewed when the lower valance was removed..

@mistermyself1128 Жыл бұрын

The people that get the bigger tires (90% never see off road) are trashing their MPG anyway and probably dont care.

@nicks7765 Ай бұрын

Maybe they plow

@jasonkubitz9410 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting video. I never even really bothered to think about that valance. I have a 17 6.7 but I don't drive it enough to pay attention to the mpg. It's mainly for towing my toy hauler. I'm sure my truck wouldn't care if that valance is there or not when towing my toy hauler lol. Anyway, thanks for the video. I want to do my own test now that you got me interested lol.

@MikeMikeSmith 10 ай бұрын

A Ford Engineer told me that the Valance helps to keep air moving over the Radiator and the Temps Down…. They are all missing on my 350 Repo Trucks as Curbs tend to “Remove” them. Did that exact route last night, 8.7 MPG… Dragging a 18 Tahoe.

@hunterman600cc 5 ай бұрын

Bought mine used. I broke it in less than a month driving on snowy roads. I hate having such a garbage approach angle. I guess I'll be removing for winter and putting on in the spring.

@kingranch8516 Жыл бұрын

Dude love the channel keep it up. My thought you don’t buy a super duty for the fuel economy, better would 😊

@TrailBreaker 7 ай бұрын

I have a 2020 XLT with the 7.3. I track mpg against the computer and have found that reality is consistently about 1 mpg lower than the computer. 14ish vs about 13ish over most driving conditions. 4WD. I’ll keep the air dam for now. Every bit helps 😊

@JAG6.7 5 ай бұрын

Excellent info ds trucks

@xavianboone6839 Жыл бұрын

Aerodynamically the number governing variable for mpg on any vehicle is drag on tires. You'll likely see an ever larger difference in mpg if you redo the test using the same speeds as engineers probably use, which is around 55mph.

@Dave-cf2ng Жыл бұрын

I swapped mine for a tremor valence, the mpg difference is not noticeable.

@Patriot-pq1ku 4 ай бұрын

Yep me too on my 2024 with the 7.3

@KratomSyndicate Жыл бұрын

I wonder if removing the valance lowers oil temps cause your blowing more air to the oil cooler? Stock truck it looks fine, but a 4" lift on 37's had to remove it and add 2wd valance along without crash bars.

@DS-TRUCKS Жыл бұрын

Probably. If more air is hitting the cooler

@bigred9914 Жыл бұрын

You stared the second test at a much lower speed when you reset the computer and had to accelerate more to get it up to speed that is what impacted your mpg the most

@anthonyleeser4571 Жыл бұрын

Looks much better with front valance on.

@paulwagner5367 7 ай бұрын

Fold in the mirrors on the Hi-way 70 to 75 mph it makes a diffrence in the MPG more than the valance?

@DS-TRUCKS 7 ай бұрын

I bet it would🤔

@QuikModsOBS Жыл бұрын

I put a 2019 f250 bumper on my on 97f250 and I definitely really a difference This was a 2k mile trip

@ShelbyvsViper Жыл бұрын

When you said this is not exact, you are correct. You started the first test reset odometer at 75 mph. The 2nd test the reset was 61 mph, so you had to accelerate 19mph to get up to cruising speed or an additional 14 mph, which is a lot more fuel wasted for the 2nd run. Thus lowering your MPG.

@MrDraper38 Жыл бұрын

Took mine off and added Temor spoiler.. didn't notice a difference in gas at all.

@jandblawncare8570 Жыл бұрын

I wish the dealer who installs my plows would just notch it out instead of taking it off and throwing it in the bed. I suppose I could do it easy enough but I agree, it does look bad when its not there. Those crash bar things look interesting, I wonder if they need to come off when a plow is installed. I watched your video when Aaron put together your Fisher on the 450 and mine being a 22 450 I hope a Western will fit without modifying anything.

@DS-TRUCKS Жыл бұрын

Yes it will. I did a updated video.

@DS-TRUCKS Жыл бұрын

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@notme5909 Жыл бұрын

Cool..

@williammeeks1283 4 ай бұрын

I noticed while you were driving you had to keep the wheel slightly to the right so I'm thinking you might need a front end alignment. Great video

@DS-TRUCKS 4 ай бұрын

Crowning road

@rzr1335 Жыл бұрын

I just ordered the Tremor valance as well.. I just can’t take the look of all that plastic.

@J2000Z71 Жыл бұрын

I lost mileage on my 92 S10 when I removed it. I can not remember the year but that is what is was added for. They wouldn’t waste the time research and money to add it if it did not work.

@johngeary8534 7 ай бұрын

It also has to do with cooling also..

@simion33 Жыл бұрын

took mine off my '19 F150 and didn't get any worse mileage.

@slaytanic921 Жыл бұрын

Hello, which rear end axle do you have?

@DS-TRUCKS Жыл бұрын

4.30

@garyrobertson6432 Жыл бұрын

I removed my valance because I thought it looked terrible… I definitely noticed a decrease in mileage which surprised me… still not gonna put it back on cuz it looks so much better without it!

@DS-TRUCKS Жыл бұрын

Tremor valance?

@garyrobertson6432 Жыл бұрын

I put the smaller tremor one on and removed the one that looks like a snow plow!

@bigguy1403 Жыл бұрын

I cut mine down to 2 inches and saw no difference in mpg at all. I've driven from Nevada to AZ many times 3 hr drive each way with about 300 pounds in the bed and my mpg has always been around 12.5 mpg highway with it left at factory and when I trimmed it down I'm still at 12.5 mpg. I don't think it's there for fuel consumption I believe it's there to stop all the crud from the road and rain from getting underneath just my opinion but I don't know.

@deal492 6 ай бұрын

While I appreciate the effort... No scientific test is 3 miles... it would take thousands of miles to prove if it helped or hurt... or hours in a wind tunnel using data on drag and aero.

@erickim2025 8 ай бұрын

The engineers have a reason for the design of their products, those people have studied the aerodynamics trucks , learn from them😊

@Uncle_Fester24 Жыл бұрын

good video! I dont notice my front air damn anymore.

@DS-TRUCKS Жыл бұрын

I might go down and see some of those mods you getting tomorrow

@Uncle_Fester24 Жыл бұрын

@@DS-TRUCKS I get a cut ✂️ in the action?

@DS-TRUCKS Жыл бұрын

@@Uncle_Fester24 Gordon gets a cut.

@Uncle_Fester24 Жыл бұрын

@@DS-TRUCKS he always gets a cut!

@Patriot-pq1ku 4 ай бұрын

I got rid of mine on the 2024 f250 an it didn't make any difference on my gas mileage it's just for high speed subtlety

@charliej.2716 Жыл бұрын

The reason you get tailgated is you seem to travel in the left lane and only move over when you get to your exit.

@wowcantbelieveit2780 Жыл бұрын

Aerodynamics and fuel economy is my guess

@michaelbutterworth3959 Жыл бұрын

I lost 1 Mpg with my 6.7 when I went to the 2wd valance. I thought I was crazy but obviously I knew my truck.

@DS-TRUCKS Жыл бұрын

Does it seem like the truck wonders? I noticed the truck starting to feel like it wanders a little more

@JeepCherokeeful Жыл бұрын

@@DS-TRUCKS how fast do you drive?!

@DS-TRUCKS Жыл бұрын

@@JeepCherokeeful was going 80

@jasonwest2064 7 ай бұрын

It's just about looks

@scottkraniak4941 Жыл бұрын

I'm looking for one for my 2016 F250. Anyone want to give me theirs. Lol I'm on long Island NY

@stngstr Жыл бұрын

Whoa....truck got better mpg at 70mph than 80 mph? Go figure......

@jamesparksparks8873 Жыл бұрын

Two miles to the gallon less if take off

@royj9241 Жыл бұрын

What engine is that truck

@DS-TRUCKS Жыл бұрын

7.3 gozilla

@royj9241 Жыл бұрын

@@DS-TRUCKS nice i came from 6.2 to 6.7 power stroke. Your 7.3 similar mpg to 6.2 but 6.2 needs more power my 6.7 23 hwy at 65 70 no need for 80

@royj9241 Жыл бұрын

3.73 gears thanks for the reply

@DS-TRUCKS Жыл бұрын

@@royj9241 4.30 gears.

@MrDraper38 Жыл бұрын

Not a true test. You didn't put am air damn on. A smaller one and left the crash protectors on.

@garyneville2495 3 ай бұрын

Amazing maybe not sientic but that’s dramatic!

@texanusa111 Жыл бұрын

I never heard that it was about gas mileage, I heard that those are a safety feature and have to be on the trucks to help prevent smaller car from travelling under the truck in an accident. Awhile back I spoke to insurance and if you modify the front of a vehicle, they will not insure vehicle and if you do, you will not be covered in an accident. I spoke to State DOT and they mentioned that if you modify the front of the vehicle, they will change the title to "Rebuilt" then you will have a hard time selling and insuring the vehicle.

@DS-TRUCKS Жыл бұрын

Interesting

@justingolden Жыл бұрын

the 2 black rectangle crash bars under the bumper after he took off the air dam are there for that reason, not the air dam it's self.

@texanusa111 Жыл бұрын

@@justingolden Don't forget that the bumper regs are different for each State and generally follow the 16"-20" Fed regs. Trimming or taking that off would hold you responsible in any accident.

@tracykempfer3637 Жыл бұрын

@@justingolden the rectangle things hanging down are not for a crash safety reasons. they are for transport only. they are not on 2wheel drive or the tremors.

@chrisrossman9566 Жыл бұрын

Just gonna get this thing caught on a stump in the woods.

@DS-TRUCKS Жыл бұрын

Lol.

@stevemoss1221 Жыл бұрын

I thought the valence had more to do with engine and tranny cooling than anything else!!!!!

@DS-TRUCKS Жыл бұрын

Engine cooling?

@VegasGuy1975 Жыл бұрын

I have no idea exactly how much fuel the front air dam saves. What I do know is my old 7.3 PSD got 15.3 MPG on its best day at 55MPH on cruise control in the flats. My 2021 6.7 PSD on cruise control in the same flats gets 15MPG when towing at 70MPH and 22 when on cruise, not towing, at 70MPH. Frankly, I don’t care what the front air dam looks like, I’m keeping it when I see mileage like this.

@DS-TRUCKS Жыл бұрын

❤️

@jesses1519 Жыл бұрын

Till the DEF kicks in and drops to 12 mpg then your average mpg plummets

@VegasGuy1975 Жыл бұрын

@@jesses1519 the nice thing is that the newer 10 speed transmissions also have a Eco mode which significantly reduces the DEF usage. I go through half a tank of Def every 3,000 miles or so. Now when it’s in tow haul mode, the def definitely gets sucked down at a rate of about half a tank every 1000 miles. And the MPG drops to roughly 13 ish.