The human eye can only see "out of stock"

That car in the beginning was the speed in which the stock goes out.

Definitely time to revisit this. I watched this and felt a little silly for getting in the EVGA queue for a 12gb 3060 (which I did eventually get), but now I'm so glad I did. Hopefully it will last me until Nvidia gets the memo about VRAM.

The 10 gb edits in this video are super entertaining. 😂 I love your videos. These videos are the handiest thing ever for starting pc building and have saved my skin multiple times already.

I remember when $500 would buy you the top of the line card, period.

'in stock' memory is what I need

Can we just appreciate how his videos just start with him talking about the thing we clicked for. More youtubers should do this.

2 years later and 8GB is starting to show its age.

"I'll bet you that's what I sound like" *Actually is Jays car being stolen

3gb would not cut it Me playing on my 2gb at 24 fps: Its all about the cinematics

This video aged like fine milk. Jay it's time for a remake of this video :) New games coming out with high res texture packs is not going to survive with just 8GB.

Great analogy for BUS width versus vRAM. That's why I waited for the 3080 Ti for the price difference. Red Dead Redemption 2 on maximum settings uses just under 11 GB while running 200+ FPS (so Precision X1 claims) with 5120 x 1440p @ 240 Hz.

“3gb would not cut it today” Me running on 512mb: this is fine

3:05 the way the "10!" was dubbed over Jay broke me. 😂🤣

Things did not change in just 2 years. Even in 2020, VRAM matters more than people (reviewers) thought. Games like Cyberpunk, Control, and some others already have problems with 8GB VRAM, things like fps drops, lowres textures, stutter, etc. However, reviewers did not realize this problem, because they typically only play games for a brief moment for benchmark and that's it. These memory issues only appear later on, after a prolonged play session as the memory pool gets more and more saturated.

A year later and now games are making 12GB cards stress with RTX

I've been playing on a console all my life. I just built my first PC, wanted to do it for a long time. I spent a lot of money on the specs hoping I don't have to upgrade it in a long time. I managed to buy the new RX 6800 xt with 16gb Vram. Hopefully it lasts me at least 5 years haha. So far loving it and the PC experience. Everything Is so much smoother.

The human eye can not see more than 200 dollar per VRAM.

Hello from the future of 2 years from now. VRAM matters now and 12GB is on the low side!

Man what an educational video. I am about to buy a new graphics card and was panicking about the rams, despite the fact that I´m gonna be playing on 1080p the whole time, so 8gb ram will be more than enough for my needs. Thank you a lot for this :)

“If you have a slow dribbly pump its still gonna suck” - Jay 2021

When he said "Next year" at the beginning. I truly felt that.

Resident Evil 2 and 3 Remake can be really VRAM demanding depending on the settings you choose. It gives you an indicator in the settings on how much VRAM it's gonna use as you change settings, so it would be interresting to see if it really takes all the VRAM it says it does.

This video really needs a 2023 update

*looks at Premiere* All of it.

Jay- "8gb is the sweet spot" Microsoft Flight Simulator- "Hold my beer"

Your videos are definitely helpful for learning more about computer components and being able to make informed decisions about what hardware to purchase!

How weird now 2022 and everyone is still testing in 1080p

listen, i’ll take *any* graphics card at this point.

When you shop for thirty series in stock, the forties will be fresh out of stock.

I’m grateful for the higher than “necessary” vram in the 3060 because that is what I was able to buy for my first pic for learning Blender and Unreal Engine

This has aged poorly. "8gb is really the sweet spot, and anything over is pretty much overkill" Yikes. I'd be pissed if I bought one of these 3070s.

I appreciate the voice over on the "10" correction. I listen to the videos more than watch them & I miss on screen annotations all the time.

Me: How much VRAM does this 3080 have? Booming voiceover out of nowhere: *TEN!***

Can you do an update to this with how much 8gb of vram has suffered in the latest games?

Buying a 6gb gpu (rx 5600 xt) back in November 2020 for about 280€ feels like the best choice I made in my life...at the time I almost backed out from buying it, thinking I should wait some months so that I can buy a more high end gpu... glad I didn't

How much GPU Memory do you need? Deep Learning Engineers: YES

Jay: "I'm not going to be making a bunch of 3060 videos" Jay: "Anyway, here's another 3060 video"

As someone who games in QHD/2K/1440p but turns all the bells and whistles to the max, I went with an RTX 3060 12GB. Every game I play comes nowhere near the limit, but I still appreciate extra headroom.

This video needs a part two

"How much GPU Memory do you REALLY need?" i would like some more then my 1050TI has currently

As a fellow pilot who is grounded by cancer, and "trying" to build a flight sim rig, seeing flight sim in the testing metrics would definitely help

Sim programs like Microsoft Flight Simulator and especially DCS require lots of vram. So it really depends on what you want to use it for. I would rather take a last years GPU with more vram then todays GPU with less vram.

8 GB more than sufficient to play antyhing on utlra with rtx on full hd, if u want 4k then better 12

Very helpful for me Jay. I'm about to purchase a GPU and as a novice PC gamer i was unsure of the difference in Vram from one type to another and why one was lower and another was higher. Bitrate/framerate make a difference. Thanks again for your channel. I'm learning so much

I love how Jay feels our pain with gpus even though he could most likely get them a lot easier than the average person

The Vram is good to keep in mind, but for some titles, the 3D Graphic ussage is relevant too. Take for example Warhammer 3. I have a GTX 1660 Ti whit 6G of Vram. I lowered all the settings to about 4 point under optimal in Geforce Experience and reduced the frame rates to 28 from Nvidia Control Pannel. The end result was that the 3D was about 90% which was under 100%. On the other hand, with the same sistem, Warhammer 2, the prevoius title, was using all the 6G of Vram on the default Ultra graphics setting and it looked like it was not enough, reaching 70 fps on its default game benchmark. If I am to run Warhammer 3 on ultra, I do not think 6G of Vram will cut it, I do not remember it, yet I remember the GPU reaching temperatures of 90 degrees which were definitely above 85 degrees. I am curious how demanding will Warhammer 3 be when the Immortal Empire cames out, I doubt 8G of Vram will be enough, the cooling archotecture must be over the top and the 3D Graphics will probabily push the temperature over the 85 degrees as well. My GPU usually sits at 60 degrees and when not used, at under or aroumd 40. Those 3D Graphics are killing it.

i feel like 60 series should be the ones having 8gb, 70-80 series cards should have 10-16gb and the 90s and ti's should be the ones with over 20gb of vram

6:14 “Ten!” That voice sounds so out of place. 😂🤣🤣

These companies are putting more VRAM on these anemic ass cards like kids used put cold air intakes on stock civics. lol

Clear explanation with good examples. Definitely one of the best explanations on KZfaq.

I have seen people in the comments saying 4 Gb of VRAM is ok. Those people have obviously never played Doom Eternal (hi, Texture pool), CoD, and other games where 8 Gb of VRAM is necessary. I understand that some people like buying 700USD cards just to play on medium, but man, this is underresearched

Jay : “After nVidia reach out ...” After your “salty” opinion piece about the 3060, I BET they reached out!!! Please don’t knuckle under to their pressure. Keep your videos honest AND salty. This whole GPU generation so called release is totally f’ed up and most of us are going to skip it. If we can’t get it, it is irrelevant.

24GB GDDR6X seems like a good amount of GPU memory...

I just got reminded of this, some people think that the human eye can only see 30 fps while in reality it can see at the very least 1000-2000 fps

The thing with VRAM is it governs for many the most critical setting that is texture size. You just cannot enjoy a game when every surface looks muddy no matter how the GPU can handle geometry and effects. I learned it the hard way trying to play Fallout 4 in 2016 with a Radeon 6950 1GB. Even though the game played fine overall, going anything above low textures made dramatic stutters when I tried to look around. I had to go buy another card just because I had skimped from buying a 2GB version before. When it's not enough, it's a game-breaking metric that there's no reasonable way around like reducing effects or geometry. So just buy more than you need to be futureproof enough. Games increase texture sizes dramatically over the years: I had a 8MB card 20 years ago and have a 8GB card right now.

Helpful to know, I game on a 1440p and just got a rx 6800 xt, 16 gb did seem a bit overkill. One thing no body talks about is that it's not just new but all gpu's that are crazy expensive. I paid $1400 for the 6800xt, but only because I traded a 5700 challenger I paid $350 for new. For a Vega 56 and a 8 gb 580. I sold them for $800 and $550 respectively... So I upgraded for $50 out of pocket. That's been my best upgrade for the least amount of cost. Not bad...

“6gb of vram isn’t really going to cut it” as I sit here with my laptop 1050 2gig tryna play warzone getting horrific frame stutters you mention. Just hoping I will have the money and ability to grab a 4080 when those come out

There's a big difference between using a flat monitor and VR (Quest 2 with Virtual Desktop streaming or Valve Index, etc.)

I know this video is a year old now, but, I do have to say, I am glad my previous R9 290 and my current GTX 1070 both have 8GB of RAM. Just playing Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor at 1920x1080 resolution with everything maxed out used about 6 to 6.5 GB of VRAM. Weirdly enough, playing at 2560x1440 now on my GTX 1070, it still uses about 6.5GB of VRAM when everything is maxed out. Cyberpunk 2077 from version 1.1 to now 1.5, I have never seen my VRAM use go above about 5.5 to 6GB on mostly medium settings with textures maxed at 2560x1440.

I think that sound was the 30 series coming in and going out of stock

One important point, the vram displayed in lot games is just the amount allocated not utilisation

The 3060 is an amazing card for a lot of productivity tasks. A lot of productivity software can't utilize most of the CUDA capabilities of the GPU due to bottlenecks elsewhere with CPU processing. But when you're doing something like denoising 4k or 8k plates with 4-5 frames of temporal denoising you run out of GPU memory FAST. 12GB means for just ~$350 you can get Titan like performance and memory ✅CUDA ✅RTX ✅>10GB VRAM Incredible value for render nodes that aren't usually used for 3D GPU Rendering but still benefit from CUDA plugins to help keep the CPU busy (like denoising, depth of field blur, motion blur, optical flow retiming, 3D LUTs etc)

Watching this video after finally building my first PC yesterday, finally able to get a graphics card at a reasonable price… “when you finally go shopping for your new graphics card… next year.” Was the most accurate thing I’ve ever heard 😂

“People upgrade every 4-5 years” 12GB may not be important now, but what about over the next 4-5 years?

Good video. I only feel like one point is missing. Memory allocation is not necessarily memory usage. Means, that if MSI Afterburner / Riva Statistics Server shows e.g. 5 GB memory, it means that the game allocated / reserved this amount of memory and not necessarily that it really uses this amount at the moment.

I don't have it installed right now so I'm not 100% sure but, didn't GTA V depend pretty heavily on V-RAM for some of the higher-level graphics settings?

Jay, Can you do this video again but with more recent info. Also how does your GPU selection change if you intend to use VR? Lastly I have found that the most demanding Game is DCS (Digital Combat Simulator)

I’m almost tired of watching these GPU reviews and videos, because a tear runs down my face every time. #2021

9 months ago Me getting an RX580: "Mid range but I feel kinda poor" Present time me:"Power."

As someone who does AI training and running entire models locally I need 24gb minimum for a good time and 48gb for paradise. I make do with 16gb right now but man I want more, so much more.

I bought a RTX 3080 with 12gb VRAM because I think it more 'future proof'. I'm also running a 5120x1440 monitor with a 2560x1440 secondary. Games will eventually require more VRAM and I already have a demanding setup. The VRAM will probably be useful to me, even if the costs did scar me financially for life

4:40 Wow, I don't know how Steve's multiple graphs and tables over at GN could ever compare to this. The new standard!

As long as it has pretty colourful lights, it doesn't matter.

My old 1 GB Nvidia GT 620: "Kids these days and their VRAM!" My old 128 MB ATI Radeon: "I remember when a quarter used to cost a nickel!"

2023 and average Vram usage is 12gb, you were wrong Jay

"3gb would absolutely not cut it!" *me glaring at me 1gb card*

Jay- "getting way more vram than you need.." My gpu- yea we capped out 2GB ago boss..

Great video! I have a EVGA 3080 12gb FTW3 Ultra, and I took was trying to figure out the hoopla 12gb vs 10gb. I see here the difference was memory bus. I chose the 12 gb only due to the 384-bit memory bus. As I played Battlefield 2042 at 4k (3840 x 2160) , my memory usage was 7418 MB GPU usage. Thank you, now I know why a 3090 would have been a waste.

I recently upgraded to an RTX 2060 with 6gb VRAM and I’ve noticed Dishonored 2 is quite the VRAM hog, to the point where after playing through a level, I sometimes start experiencing the bad stutter and then a crash to desktop. Thing is, the game runs beautifully for a time, but it seems as I explore a level, VRAM slowly climbs, and it doesn’t garbage collect. All that said, I have textures on ‘Ultra’ in-game, so I’m going to fiddle with lowering a few settings and keep monitoring VRAM. Thanks for this video!

A direct comparison to a 3070 or 3080 would have be very interesting

What about MSFS 2020? It is known to use a lot of VRAM. Especially at higher resolutions.

Well, recently got my hands on 3080 Ti 12 GB - been running The Division 2 (vram usage was like 11,5GB), Dying Light 2 (10,5 GB). The most interesting thing I noticed was that Cyberpunk 2077 seems to be locked on 8 GB usage +/- 0,5 GB - played in 1440p

So around 2017 I bought my pc from ibuypower and it was slightly customizable prebuilt. I was still new to pc gaming and kinda fell into the prebuilt trap. It was advertised as a 1060 build so I was happy to have that. I went ahead and upped the CPU to a I7 7700k, The RAM to 16gb and added a 250gb ssd. Well once I got the computer I noticed how small the GPU was. I was new so I didn't really think to much about it. Well after a few month I found out the GPU was one of the cheapest 1060s at the time, It was a MSI mini 1060 3gb. I soon found out that 3gb on my card wasn't great for newer title... I feel like the 3gb GPUs were made to trick people new to PC gaming and I was one of the suckers. lol It scared me from buying PC part until I finally put the time in to learn what I was doing. Luckily I mainly pay indie game games and that card can actually handle most of them.

Is this the fabled "graphics card" that the legends speak of? Legends tell of an artifact composed of composite materials, able to output frames to a screen. The legend is true!

Can we all take a moment to appreciate how simple yet gorgeous that 2060 looks

The way borderlands works is that they have whole zones you load into so if you to test memory usage you would have to load into a whole new area such as a town. Or fast travel somewhere.

Time for a revisit Jay! I would love to see a direct comparison of a 12gb 3060 vs a 'supposed to be faster' 8gb 3070 in Cyberpunk 2077 or The Last of Us.

I've already run into a few games that need more than 8gb vram at 1440p. If you max GR Breakpoint at 1440p you'll eventually run into stuttering on an RTX 3070 due to vram being maxed.

Some GTX 1060 models: *Three, take it or leave it*

It’s crazy, pre 3D graphics everywhere I remember selling kits to upgrade video cards to 1MB for Windows 🙈

A year later and he was right. Im just now able to buy a graphics card at a reasonable price.

I hope GPU stocks get better soon, I've been waiting for my graphics card for 2 months now and it's very frustrating. If someone is at the same situation as me, keep faith brother we will get through this and things will get better.

7:15 not memory usage, memory allocation. The actual usage is almost always lower than what afterburner shows.

I have an RTX 2060 that I got in November of 2019. I’m already starting to see the effects of not enough VRAM on 1080p. I can’t play some of my games on max settings because it runs out of VRAM too fast. I actually had a stutter that was literally 3 minutes long before it let me play again, but then it kept stuttering really bad so I quit. When I upgrade my GPU, I’m definitely going for a high VRAM amount to future proof it more as well since I also plan on getting some 1440p monitors. As always, great video with great info. Keep it up Jay!

It's hilarious watching these old 3060 12gb reviews and even the 2060 12gb. Two entry level cards Nvidia didn't gimp by giving them ample vram.

Great video. As a content creator, several OTHER factors apply: the better the textures are baked into the game, the easier the game load. And as a Maya/Max user, the more vram u have the larger/more complex geometry and textures you can load/render. Hence why Quadro cards routinely have double the vram of the GeForce/RTX line of consumer gaming cards.

3:06 it’s truly amazing what they can do with special effects these days.

”How much GPU Memory do you really need” ”All of them!”

I love seeing this videos I don’t even own a Gaming PC but I see them anyway