You are making some of the best ebike related content on YT. Love your honesty, transparency, and light-hearted presentation style. Keep up the good work. ps - thinking of hiring your services regarding electric trike/bike conversion advice

This was really good, I think i have so much more of a feel for how much this stuff should cost now. Also you sprinkled in some opinions about the brands here and there, thats also really helpful. Keep it going man 👍👍

I love this new segment you're doing. You are making the best ebike content around. Please keep them coming

This is precisely why this conventional bike only mechanic got in to e-bikes. My friends were getting ripped off and I could build better for an average of half the price and convert for the best bike at even less.

I love watching your reaction and commentary. “Solid gold down tube “ best ever. Looking forward to this series… like gambling but free!

Wanted to thank you for helping out getting my BaFang config driver problem sorted out. Well done. Also want to thank you for all your videos as it definitely kept me moving in the right direction with my BaFang 750w mid-drive kit build on my wife's old department store mountain bike. Cheers.

Great video. I've been watching your channel to learn. I have no interest in building a bike, but trying to make sense of what's out there has been soooo confusing. This is a great help. I'd like to see you assess many more ebikes.

Nice analysis JDO! I really liked how you made component breakdown simple.

I'm laid here in my critical care bed after having a brain tumour removed so glad that I'm a subscriber and that I have a full suspension frame and a bdshd waiting for me to build when I get home thanks Johnny I'd be stuck in the house instead of tearing up the trails you're the. Man i love this channel

Ditto about your content: it's terrific! Your comparison vids are proving a great help as I debate whether to buy a completed one or the kit so as to upgrade one of current bikes. Thanks!

Hey Johnny, I walked into a bike shop yesterday near my job and the first electric bike I walked up to had a $4,250 price tag!! Am still watching videos and researching. Peace jh

Entertaining and informative...you should do more of these.

I (shamefully) bought a Giant Roam E in June for $2200, and I've been very happy with it for casual riding. For a Class 1 bike, I think it's very good. I was happy to see Giant was not one of the highest offenders on your list. I really like the Yamaha controller vs the Bosch. I wanted to build my own, but at the time just too many parts were not available, or were about as expensive as buying one of the "Big 3" bikes (Trek, Giant, Specialized). Thank you for your content. Because of you I totally stopped looking at hub-drives and went straight for the mod-drives.

Always learn something from your videos

Great video. I did basically the same thing very recently and just thought I was being cheap, lol. So I bought a retrofit fit. It provides me so many more usage options and generally a lighter bike. Build strength/longevity is yet to be determined.

Johnny I like the energy you put into your videos. Your dedication is inspirational. Thanks for your hard work. When I'm back in the US soon I'll consult with you about converting a 2018 Northrock fat tire bike that's gathering dust in my garage. I saw your video and your thoughts about fat tire bikes not being the optimal starting point, but it's what I have so.... Keep charging! ( charging...electric...see what I did there?) 👍🏻

Thanks Johnny, I'm glad you're in Oregon. Good advice. I'm not ready to convert an older bike over. Still appreciate your knowledge.

solid video, no suprise that pedego is wayyyy over valued. I have only seen their shops in very upscale neighborhoods. Selling medicore bikes to people who are not caring what the price is. conversions are the best value. bbshd best mid drive motor for the money. hope to see more builds with it on the channel

Ive ridden my Specialized turbo vado sl for a year with no problems and it's been a blast ! 1200 miles, i have a specialized shop right by me that is super helpful and plans all kinds of rides ! So fun, really the way to go

Thanks. This is just what I was looking for.

Thanks for the wonderful info!

After watching your channel, I decided you were RIGHT! Got my ‘90’s Giant Rincon out of storage and started the retro fit. This is NOT my dream bike, but am keeping an eye on the cruiser of my dreams. Bought a guy’s experimental 1,000 watt rear hub, 48v/20ah battery with throttle only. It was on a WallyWorld “MTB” with NO BRAKES!!! Got that for 400 bills! Giant will have all new shifters, brakes, cables, bars, tires, chain and custom pedals(disabled vet). I don’t think I will have 600 into it, to find out if I like it enough to go balls out with one of your projects. Definitely NOT buying a factory ebike…..thanks to you!

Good way to break it down so people can see just how much they really rip you off. And when you buy a pre fabricated ebike your now stuck with that size battery.😁 Thanks for the video

Purchased a pre made thinking it would better than my build but I was wrong. I would suggest taking the time to plan a self build. Thanks for the info!

Great info !! Thank you !!

Have you taken a look at Tern's vektron line in any videos? They're interesting folders I've been considering for commuting. Bit easier to take on a train.

I may be 73 in July but as we communicated with your consultation I am determined to build my own even with the shipping problems I have here. Putting funding together and will be back in touch.

This should be a series!!!

Thanks Johnny nice one Bud

very informative thank you 👍

All the highest profit-margin bikes are ones my local bike shops push... 😆

Great video man. I had an ecotric fat bike 36v 500w that was $849 and the himiway cruiser which is now $1599 both seem like good value for the money. Ecotric is nice and the himiway has more power as well as great range.

Great Video! I got a Giant Roam E for my son, its a great bike however they are all speed limited. I paid $2,250 for it from a local bike shop. I like it alot and now I want an ebike HOWEVER, I am not going to spend that kind of money again, I am building a Bafeng HD powered bike from my old Giant hard tail. Thanks for the inspiration Mr. Nerdout 👍

GREAT info.! Thanks again, YOU'RE the man " Mr Johnny " . Mtn Mel , Ret USN SERE, in Grand Junction, Co.

I want to know what you think of the Aventon pace 500..I tried to do as much research..concidering I knew nothing about ebikes..I payed 1500. What's ur thoughts.

I found this video interesting. Thanks.

This is a f’n awesome video. Exactly what I’m thinking scrolling ebike specs 😂. Motto - “If you think this is worth X you should buy it”

This is a question, I’m new to the E bike I just finished watching your video on the values and type of components on several different E-bikes. There’s one you didn’t mention and it’s the ZOOMO SPORT can you or someone with the knowledge help learn the pros and cons of it?

Golly, they really are ripping off many people. I'm glad I found your video, you and Ride MTB Every Day, are among those who have pointed out, these are all the same bike with very small differences and large marketing budgets. Because of you I've realized I can totally take one of the bikes I already have and upgrade it into an E bike.

Just put together my first e-bike, used 'vary little' Specialized hard rock disc 26 $270, 750w mid drive $489, 48v 20ah, up to 30amp discharge rate triangle battery w/4 amp charger $375, shift sensor $20 total $1154 +$30 for tools. About to go for the maiden voyage. Wish me luck. I have a small MC shop and am looking to branch out into e-bikes.

What do you think of the townie 5i I feel like it is ok ?

Can u go mid drive and front hub both separate batt

Would a Mongoose Terrex 27.5 be a good bike to turn into an ebike? I can get the Mongoose for $200. Just don't know much about bike prices. I want a mid drive kit

Johnny, I want a bike or trike for hunting in some trashy (limbs, blowdowns, ets) woods with many animal trails. I know you prefer e-bikes. I am considering one. I am 71, have bad legs but can get around, and am basically lazy when I can get away with that. Would an e-bike or e-trike...or a non e version work best for me? I want to pull a small wagon behind the bike/trike. I will also use it for fishing along a few lakes, rivers and ponds. Thanks Ron PS is there any such thing as a bike rack for a trike, besides the roof of a car or the bed of a pickup?

I have a friend who has a 30 year old ebike made by General Motors with acid batteries 🔋 he is looking to upgrade his battery to lithium batteries what do you suggest

Excellent video and channel. I’ve learned so much and appreciate all you do. Gracias! I have a question about ensuring an add-on is legal here in CA. In general, class one and class two bikes are legal but not class three. From Wiki - A "class 2 electric bicycle," or "low-speed throttle-assisted electric bicycle," is a bicycle equipped with a motor that may be used exclusively to propel the bicycle, and that is not capable of providing assistance when the bicycle reaches the speed of 20 miles per hour. Can you buy add on motors that are governed not to assist beyond the limit? Also, here in the Golden State, there has to be a sticker affixed stating what class the bike is. Do you happen to have any information about how to do that if governed motors are available? Thanks so much. 🤙

What about a floding e bike can you convert one to mid driver

Integrated frames, even aluminum from Ali express are $550 to 750 plus fork wheels, components groupset then battery and motor.

Great. You are very informative. Total like on this video. Will you or anyone reading please tell: If I install a 250w midrive on my mountain bike how much harder will I pedal if the drive is not engaged. And suppose the battery is removed. In other words: how much resistance does the drive have relative to the normal crank setup before conversion ?

Anyone know if the Benno Boost 9D is worth the money? It’s 4,100 350w mid drive, 400wh power pack. Frame is unique, hydraulic brakes, anti theft lock seats

People are scared to convert their own, they think I'm amazing for for doing mine for £300 when in fact it was pretty easy just gotta pay attention to the torque arm fitting especially. Ebikes are in fashion and prices are whatever the manufacturers think they can get away with but they have to honor warantee repairs and run shops paying staff etc etc.

I saw your mid-drive vs hub motor e-bike kit comparison. Because of that, I ended up buying a mid-drive kit and I love it. I noticed why hub motors suck, and they truly do for my purposes lol. Thx.

Johnny wondering if you have ever done a Bafang motor and batteries for a catrike expedition would be interested in getting prices for all materials to add 750 W motor to my bike would need a heavy duty battery because I do some long trips on bike trails

Thanks for this. Really!

Does anyone have suggestions for good value bikes to convert to ebikes? Or should you just get any bike in decent condition?

Old geezer looking for a trike to haul his wife around on. Campgrounds - steep hills in my neighborhood - etc. - (rickshaw trike) . Any recommendations. Thanks for your time - bill

I have a $4100 1000 watt ecell bike two batteries two motors batteries 🔋 14 ah and 17 ah front and rear suspension what’s your price

I would love to build my own . But lack the expertise and for that matter the patience . But 3 of the companys you listed that were not that far off , just so happen to be bikes im interested in . So i do not feel so bad . That being said . You have me looking at Sondors now too . Nice bike .

I humbly request Ariel Rider Grizzly to be in the next round of bikes.

I've got a 3rd hand 2017 cube hybrid thats had 3 frames, 2 motors(manufacturers free replacement) 2 forks...etc, etc...original battery.It cost me £1000 pounds..It is the most expensive yet best bang for the buck bike I've ever used!

Love your videos and analysis of each one. So, you are the GoodRx of electric bikes and stuff? So what is a "good" profit? How much does a company deserve for ROI on a factory, staff, their benefits, a real parts department, etc. How would your analysis work on Radpower, Bolton ebikes and The Electric Bike Company? Is it really practical for us average ebike users to source our own components and build a bike? Just some random thoughts.

Really would like to hear what you have to say about the Dengfu E 06 I played 4800 Canadian dollars for it . And its stuck on a container ship that is anchored at port due to covvid.

Can you rate the Luna X1 bike? What's your opinion. Thanks!

I'm convinced I need a " mid - drive ." How about the " Rambo 750 Ryder 24 " ? I rode it and the bigger ( Ugh) model. OR the" Rad 750 Rover " ? But they don't make a mid - drive it seems (?)

I would like to know your opinion on Harley Davidson's Series One electric bikes.

You should price out the brakes, drivetrain, and suspension components as well

What is a good brand 750 watt rear drive motor from ebay? Are they all the same? Is Voilamart any good?

I wonder if I can ship my bike from Virginia to you if you think its worth it. I have a Sundeal M1?

Hey Johnny, where is the best place to buy electric bike kits, mid mount , thanks

Your thoughts on the Babymaker2..?.?

Walmart had a kit for a vevor motor 72volt 3000 watt kit for 219.99 is this a good kit comes with controller and throttle ?

It would have been interesting to see an "Lectric XP 2.0" in the bunch. Good specs and value - easy to see why they sold so well. I tell XP owners to get a 2nd battery if they want to run it hard, it's @ 68 lbs and will use up batteries on steep hills. An e-bike is just motor and battery. Buying an extra battery is the easiest way to boost Range and performance

I think other stuff like fancy materials, exotic manufacturing techniques, custom software/apps, factory location, marketing and general overheads are a big factor for some of these. But I really love the custom builder perspective on this. It's something I never really considered outside of Louis Rosmans exploding bike🔥! Still, it's all academic this side of the world, no way we could pay anything close to retail without getting runners to smuggle parts or whole bikes from South Africa.

The bike shops love the hub bikes because they can nail you both ways in the form of cheap cost and costly repairs.

How much value are you putting on labor and other overhead?

how about the Accolmile??? on Ebay and Amazon, 750 bafang, $2200

yes, you are about right, speculation.

Can U talk about e bikes with belt drive. Thanks

Late to the game here, but the Trek is full suspension, about 100 mm of rear travel, as I recall. They marketed the bike as a e-cross country racing bike.

when the pedelec trend took off here and i saw the first prices in stores i felt cheated, the cheapest ones are about the same price as a fully stocked and insurance included 2stroke skooter

I have six thousand miles on my Pedego City Commuter, price 3500.00. Yes the price is high but the warranty and service is is top notch.

Where would the labor cost of assembling / converting/ adjusting the bike fit in? Are you including that as part of your “bike” price estimate? I’m curious How do you price that particular aspect.

Question- I'm only seeing used bikes with caliper brakes, which I'm guessing are inadequate for an e-bike? What's your recommendation?

I'm looking bro buy a E bike so this was helpful. I don't want a mountain bike but I want something with a little more suspension than a rigid frame. There are so many of them out there.

Johnny.. have you noticed that the really good Schwalbe marathon PLUS, BigApplePLUS, and BigBenPLUS on the market are all out of stock..? You can't find a 20"x 1.75 or higher, a 26x1.75 or higher anywhere on the market.. I use to order them out of London UK, because the USA Schwalbe market was out of stock for the last year.. Now you can't even find these quality high grade tires anywhere.. get out the penicillin the world has run out of rubber. What are your thoughts..? I know that the ebike market is all coming from China/Thailand.. And the shipping containers have doubled in price and there are mass shortages across the world.. Good thing you can yake a regular bike and convert it to assist... :) Are you having trouble sourcing Bafang Mid-drive kits to do conversions..? Hopefully you are stocked up before the last of the supply dries up.. Robb PDX

Hello question for ya, I live in Scotland and have been thinking about converting my hardtail for a while, its got pretty good component's on it, 13 incline delta, could you recommend a good kit to use? Cheers

Life Changing

You should check out prices of Stromer and Specialized Ebikes. :) BTW I know some people will buy those anytime over DIY and Bafang builds.

Hey Johnny, so my bike fell over and battery ripped out the rivnuts on my bike. Any advice on how to fix this. I'm so mad right now.

What are your thoughts on Ariel ?

Love this series. For the next episode please do Vanmoof S3, Priority Bicycles Belt Drive ebike, Benno Boost & Remi Demi , Dost mid drive ebike

Where in your numbers do you factor in labor and profit?

Pretty good comparative, however in fairness you missed on the Biktrix Juggernaut Duo. Mine has a center drive 750w motor. And you missed the second battery. Mine has matching 17.5 watt hour batteries.

For person like me (all thumbs), how much will these built bikes cost if bought fully assemble from you? I suspect that you will charge some money for assembling them.

I have a trek X-caliber converted to Ebike but it looks nothing like that E-Caliber

Awesome video. What’s the most powerful bicycle mid-drive motor that I can can online right now? I was gonna order one but now I’m thinking about converting an old bike from my dad.

You should do a break down of the Rambo,Bakcou bikes cost wise

Johnny ur a genius.and you should get rich soon.i just bought two electric bikes.a ariel m class and a Jupiter x5.

What's the best kind of bike to make an electric bike out of can you use one of those Walmart brand bikes What should I look for on a bike

"Just a general nerd," LOL. What do you think of the Hyper E-Ride 29er?