As Hungarian who in Britain realised that Yugoslavian war seen as a Jihad for Muslims in Britain hence getting a job was sometimes a dependency of who you are since if you are born in Yugoslavia but haven’t fought for Islam you are a enemy. It’s not a secret that Muslims from Britain and others countries have partaken In Yugoslavian wars just as in Kosovo and simply looking at what this terrorist groups have been doing around the world as a Hungarian I had ask myself what they where doing as a foreigners in my lands and how much crimes they have committed against my people?

Aka bosnians. Why can't you just say their name?

@@NP1066 lol what is Bosnian? A term that Our Serbian/Croat Slavic Christians that became Muslim took on after a UN resolution in 1997? Hahaha. Dude the Muslims of Yugoslavia know their roots

@@NP1066 They are not "Bosnians". Bosnians are Croats from Bosnia. Muslims from Bosnia are Muslims who want to appropriate domestic name to further their claim on something that is not theirs. They are just migrants and squaters.

end days of christianity and islam are the inverse. christianity says the king of kings will defeat satan. islam says the enemy is the one called the king of kings and he must be defeated.

What war?

@@natu5257 the war that is declared whenever a country has apostasy laws basically..

@@Portekberm like what country

@@natu5257 The 13 countries which maintain the death penalty for blasphemy or apostasy are Afghanistan, Brunei, Iran, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Nigeria, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, United Arab Emirates, and Yemen. Can you tell me the commonality of these countries? You do know what apostasy is? I don’t really care what the laws are in the countries above, but the whole world isn’t liberal.

@@Portekberm think you may have forgotten sudan.

According to islamic system every muslim who took shahada will be in heaven evenif they are ISIS after a purgatorial life for their sins while every non-muslims permanently in hell. This is why it's forbidden for praying to non-muslims after death

There is no such thing as a moderate muslim.

@@summersloth2899 Actually that's not true at all, the Quran outlines the myriad of ways a Muslim can go to hell. There is no "cleansing" phase either, this was a major point of contention with certain earlier Islamic scholars and now the mainstream belief is that if you're cast into hell, that's where you stay. ISIS are actually considered "khawarij" and will most certainly go to hell according to the hadith. I think you're talking about if you're about to die and you know it, you can recite a part of the shahada and be accepted into paradise. But there is no "everyone who made shahada will enter paradise".

@@generalfranco9399 That's not true. Cleansing phase after death is common to all claimed abrahamic religions including christianity ,judaism and islam.But islam differs among the three radically since all schools of thought in mainstream islam(both sunni and shia) affirm hell is temporary for muslims who died unrepentent even the khwarij since they never joined non-islamic religions in their life. See standard sunni creeds such as Aqeedha tahawiyyah and other shia counterparts dealing with soteriology saying the same. I haven't met any muslim who know their religion deny it(except quranists who are mostly universalists) . Infact I helped a muslim convert to leave islam and revert back to christianity when showing this immoral soteriological view in islam which he confirmed with his imams and other muslims he came to know after converting.

Remember there are also multiple sahih hadiths that mentions allah will replace muslims who spend in hell with christians and jews like these Abu Burda reported on the authority of his father that Allah's Apostle said: No Muslim would die but Allah would admit IN HIS STEAD a Jew or a Christian in Hell-Fire. 'Umar b. Abd al-'Aziz took an oath: By One besides Whom there is no god but He, thrice that his father had narrated that to him from Allah's Messenger. (Sahih Muslim, Book 037, Number 6666) Abu Burda reported Allah's Messenger as saying: There would come people amongst the Muslims on the Day of Resurrection with AS HEAVY SINS AS A MOUNTAIN, and Allah would FORGIVE THEM and He would PLACE IN THEIR STEAD the Jews and the Christians. (As far as I think), Abu Raub said: I do not know as to who is in doubt. Abu Burda said: I narrated it to 'Umar b. 'Abd al-'Aziz, whereupon he said: Was it your father who narrated it to you from Allah's Apostle? I said: Yes. (Sahih Muslim, Book 037, Number 6668)

They don’t believe he is the messiah. That’s not a reason to hate them or try to push Christian faith on them though.

As a former hasidic jew, i’d love to see it/ participate in the discussion (if invited)

@@blake4013 if only it were as simple as that

@@myrhh2260 yes. It is that simple. What does this comment even entail??

I love the orthodox jewish peoples. I know they deny the Messiah, and they are an odd people, but it is written that it would be so. Their music is incredible.

Um Christianity?

@@ronmka8931 No Christian wants to destroy anyone…in Christianity you have a God given free will. That means you are free to choose Him or not. And no one can force you to.

Well... The LGBTQP crowd and Muslims have that in common

This man is spreading lies. I am a Muslim and I invite Christian friends to my house and all the Muslims I know want good for every human.

@@kaya1481 I don’t subscribe to Islam but I do believe we should all respect and love each other, no matter their belief. I have met and stayed at a Muslim family in Morrocco and I know most people are decent human beings. I do wish no one would hurt anyone else in the name of their faith. God bless us!

Disguised as a religion. Complete Totalitarianism and reward for good deeds is based on lust for virgins. WTH ! If ever a propagating (in masses) ppl that need reforming it's Islam followers. BTW they're scholars @ Taqiyya!

Watch him gets schooled by Uthman Ibn Farooq

@@ZzeezZ78 The one where David is questing on the pamphlet related to the Quran being proven true by science, right? The man with the hat can't even get through the first question without resorting to fallacies and circular definitions about what water even is. All the while disrupting DW every time he tries to give criticism. I gave it a good 20 minutes but it didn't make a good case for Islam. Also is the old Muslim trying to keep the mic away so that we can hardly hear DW's questions?

This is absolutely the case. It applies perhaps mostly to politics and religion, but it can be seen in almost anything. But on the topic of the first two, I see it all the time. I see people who will vehemently fight for their politics and religion (or lack thereof) and refuse to consider any other point of view. And the most important thing to realize is that all groups do this. I've seen Christians do it, and I've seen Atheists do the same. I've seen Conservatives do it, and the same for Liberals. Communists? Muslims? Environmentalists? A bully I see in a particular comments section who spends all his time mocking and belittling anyone who dares to have a different political opinion? Yes to all of those. You can find people in all such groups who are actually open-minded, but most, it seems, are convinced that there's no evidence for any other beliefs. The fact is that it's human nature, and that means that all of us are subject to it even though most of us try to simply blame it on the group of people we disagree with.

@bastiat so? This wasn't a quote about socialism.

@bastiat again, I'm not an atheist nor a socialist... I like the pertinent quote. But, if you want to get into "failed" ideologies, let's talk Christianity... Christianity is a fable culminatingin blood magic and human sacrifice, which can be disproven by utilizing common sense and seeing where it leads. Please seriously read Dr Richard Carrier's peer reviewed book on the historicity of Jesus... the evidence for Jesus's existence is VERY iffy and nearly nonexistent, despite traditional views... mythicism has a LOT OF crackpots claiming ridiculous things, BUT Carrier is not a Crank. His studies are meticulous and open minded and the conclusions were shocking even to HIM (Carrier). I'm a former Christian, but have ZERO animosity towards the Faith (my wife's father is a Hindu turned Protestant minister in Northeastern India), but Christianity makes no sense to me personally. In my past, I WANTED Christianity to be true so badly, but when I investigated it obsessively to PROVE it, I realized it was not only NOT provable, but not even likely to be true. If Christianity soothes a person and motivates them to be giving, loving people, then I'm all for it. But, when Christians get under the spell that they are the only way and all others are damned, etc, then that is a spiritual immaturity that needs ironed out, or else is divisive and counterproductive to LOVE (out of ignorance). The real truth is that Consciousness Itself is Primal and we live in a nondualistic reality... matter, people, and everything which can be perceived is INSIDE Consciousness... all is in the One Mind, such as when our dream avatars play out their parts in the dreamer’s dream. No need for redemption or reward, because all is "God" playing out the roles of the universe. God is the only "doer" and is all there ultimately is. We are literally God wearing the various masks of our seemingly individual egos. All is merely play. If curious what the heck I'm speaking of, please research Bernardo Kastrup (for a modern perspective on nondualism), or read Alan Watts ("The Book") or delve into Advaita Vedanta via the principle Upanishads of Sanatana Dharma (Nondual Hinduism). Peace ✌️

@sensless- political islam.

@Sensless yes we call it political islam.. these are extreme thinkers there who want to make India an islamic country.. they infiltrate into various disciplines(politics,media, movie, education etc) n make this happen..just like afgan as some say.. Kashmir was their fertile area..but after center brought it under its control their next fertile land is Kerala..the other muslims who prefer peace are silent on these things..(frightened to raise voice) By God's grace we have a Hindu affiliated party ruling the center so they are now taking tough stances against these extremists.. Like in European countries, they supply huge amount of heavy drugs (like MDMA) n shockingly many cases are reported about girls being drugged , blackmailed, married to a muslim boy n later used either to traffic drugs or kidnapped to is regions(we call it love jihad n narco jihad)..just few days ago 5 were arrested 4boys of Muslim community n one girl belonging to Christian community..she had married to a muslim boy 3 months back n he is not involved in this.. usually what happens is that these girls get trapped in jail n their lives are devastated.. but the boys are bailed out by the legal n political influence that I mentioned above (their men infiltrated into the system)..

As a catholic from India ,I can confirm this

much love from Europe to you my friend :(

I just looked him up. Looking forward to watching some of his videos and learn a thing or two. Thanks for the reference👍🏾

Lol he is a clown

If Charbel Raish is telling the truth then it is very sad that the Muslims he interacted with were not practicing their faith properly. Each time the Muslims took Jerusalem they restored the places of Jewish and Christian worship and in fact invited Jews to come live there from far away places. This was the opposite of what non-Muslims did, which was to pillage the city and massacre all the Jews. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g5uTf5RiydbXZI0.html That is what the religion of Islam teaches. "Allah does not forbid you from dealing kindly and fairly with those who have neither fought nor driven you out of your homes. Surely Allah loves those who are fair. Allah only forbids you from befriending those who have fought you for ˹your˺ faith, driven you out of your homes, or supported ˹others˺ in doing so. And whoever takes them as friends, then it is they who are the ˹true˺ wrongdoers." [Quran 60:8-9].

May Allah guide you

Anyone who submits to the Abrahamic God is better off than an atheist especially in the perspective of a Believer

They’ve all been defeated time and time again by Muslim apologists. Mainly because Christianity is completely indefensible and a false Satanically inspired doctrine. You’re about 20 years behind sir. May you find the Truth too

Bruh as a muslim if you think these people are convincing. You are delusional

They know more about Islam than Allah and muhammad, especially Christian Prince.

Is there even a need for a debate? The very fact the Koran is the only source to say Jesus never died on the cross despite it being widespread historical fact is the biggest proof anyone needs. The rest sorts itself out.

Christian Prince knows more about islam than mohamnad and Allah.

Check Uthman Ibn Farooq debates with the 3 stooges then you'll understand better

@@ZzeezZ78 Why should I watch a clown who has been expoused by Muslims and Christians or you forgot the footnotes episode? 😂😂

@@fura21 whatever man, we just point you to the right direction and it's up to you to choose, the red pill is not for everyone.

@@ZzeezZ78 If you watch Christian Prince videos you will take the Red pill and realize how wicked Islam is. I hope one day you wake up 🙏

Already been down that rabbit hole a long time ago, I found the real world and not going back to the matrix, I'm not here to debate as I said before just wish everyone do their research without emotions getting in their way, may Allah guide us all.

Christianity's ultimate truth has always been Islam's ultimate heresy- the idea that God incarnated Himself as a human being. There is absolutely no reconciliation from a theological standpoint where it can only be one or the other. It is not about not understanding them, it's that they are fundamentally incompatible belief systems, and in one sense, one side wants to destroy the other because they believe them to be committing the ultimate blasphemy.

@@slossboss I believe the God of Moses became incarnate. I consider myself a Christian. (When you read my next sentence, you can decide for yourself whether I’m a Christian.) Christians are people who are learning to trust the Lord, even if they haven’t subscribed to your understanding or mine of who Jesus is. When the day of Pentecost was fully come, the apostles (Acts 1:2), the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and...his brethren (Acts 2:14) were all with one accord in one place. They considered Jesus to be the Messiah that had been foretold by the Hebrew prophets of antiquity. Because they were well acquainted with the Hebrew Bible, they probably had a better concept of the God of Moses than most of the people who call themselves Christians today but I have never believed that the reception of the Holy Spirit was predicated on whether they were willing to affirm any particular creed. I find it difficult to think of people as a Christians who wish to destroy Muslims “because they believe them (the Muslims) to be committing the ultimate blasphemy.” There are a variety of attitudes among professed Christians toward Hebrews but, in this context, it is appropriate to note that the majority of “observant” Hebrews believe what Muslims do about the doctrine that Jesus is divine. That many professed Christians use the phrase “Judeo-Christian” is evidence that disagreement about the divinity of Jesus doesn’t need to result in people wishing to destroy each other.

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I suggest that you start by trying to narrow down what 'sort' of nun she was/is. Do you know what 'order' she joined? Do you even know that she was/is a Roman Catholic nun?

If you know the order she was in then you should be able to track her down. Good luck

Check with her order. They will give you information if you can prove she is a relative, so you'll need to provide proof of that, otherwise they don't need to help you.

@@harryfaber Roman Catholic for sure. Other than that I have no idea

How would one find the order?

What other God offers rest and says they love you besides Jesus? None.

@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep Know this, my beloved brothers: let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger; for the anger of man does not produce the righteousness of God. James 1:19-20

As a Serb I have to disagree. If they wanted to kill us all they would of but they didn't

@@slavazoid8179 as a bulgarian I can tell you that they didnt killed those who pronounced the Shahada and the rest hide in the mountains.

@@JJ-rq1me OK so then why is Bukgaria, Serbian, RomNia Nd Greece still Orthodox since they all Proclaimed shahada ?

@@slavazoid8179 Just read your history books please. I cannot fit in 1 comment the whole history of the Ottoman Slavery.

​@@JJ-rq1me ottomans gave religious freedom too all

'Help' in what sense?

Could you please provide scripture for that? I'm interested as this is new to me

No way! Have you read the 10 commandments? Do you know the parable of the Samaritan, where Christ gives the answer who our neighbour is?

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May Allah guide you

Do muslims realy believe this delusion?

@@illyrian9976 i've seen many videos for people reverting to Islam saying it happened after they saw David's debates with Uthman Ibn Farooq, I myself was shocked with how ignorant David is when speaking/debating Uthman Ibn Farooq, and Uthman is not even a scholar. I advise anyone to watch and judge for themselves.

@@ZzeezZ78 There are many many more muslims that left islam once they realized how absurd and ridiculous the religion is thanks to David.

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lmao. no. We have countless writings from early church fathers to show early christianity is not like that, far less the new testament...

You bring me peace, you make me smile You give me strength and all the while You ask for nothing, only love And my heart beats just for you It only beats for you

Sure... it's not that people are bad, but ideologies can be. Think of it this way... if two guys approached you and said they were a Stalinist and a Buddhist, which one would you be more leery of?

using the reconqista of spain is bad arguement to use because it was re conquring christian lands that had been taken by force. and Catholics are not christians. biblically if a christian kills a muslim for any reason besides him fearing for his life is murder. on the other hand the quran does say to kill christians. the quran also allows lying for the benefit of islam. if a christian is a extremist he would never kill anyone. also one last point isis follows the quran exactly as it says. muhammad himself said he would get rid of all christians in the arabian pennisula and he did.

Jesus never promoted violence. Mohammad, whoever he was, because he did not exist as such, was explicitly violent. ALL the peaceful verses of the Koran are early and were abrogated by the later violent ones. Even a polytheist (i.e. a Trinitarian Christian) like me knows this. So should you.

Jesus said there is no God beside him. Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Jesus is God and appeared in bodily form before becoming flesh. We clearly see the three persons of the trinity mentioned here too. Isaiah 48:12-16 Jude 5. Jesus saying he predates his incarnite transformation. An often overlooked verse that speaks to this is Jude 5 where it says Jesus saved the people out of Egypt and also destroyed those who did not believe. These events are least over 1200 years before Jesus was born Food for thought.

Christians are basically Muslims in training. All you need to do is read the revelation from the last prophet Mohammed.

The attitude of moderate Muslims does not matter when the supremacy mentality is directly because of the primary sources of Islam (Quran and Hadiths). We have 1,400 years of historical context. The endgame of Islam from the beginning has been to impose sharia law to the world and for everyone to recognize the supremacy of Islam. The Quran and Hadiths are clear about this endgame. Christianity does not have this problem . Our message is very different to Islam. You can not justify southern Baptist hateful rhetoric from the example of Christ or writings of the Apostles and the Church Fathers. Islam failed. A legitimate caliphate (successor to Muhammad) will never ever return. However we Christians should never forget our 1,400 year old history with Islam. The best thing we can do is to zealously evangelize Muslims, they need to be saved from their false prophet.

@@lepanto3607 I'm sorry but this is wildly inaccurate on a number of issues. I'd encourage you to do more research on the subject. The attitude of the average Muslim matters quite a bit. Not when it comes to, say, airline security, but when it comes to dialoguing about religious differences, it does.

@@exquofonte "Dialogue" is the key phrase here Mike. The average Muslim could care less about dialoging with Christians. Why? Because there are very few Christians allowed to live or own property in Muslim nations because of differences in permissible rights. Most Muslim nations treat their Christian minorities as second class citizens, of course with a few rare exceptions rather than the rule. So your proposed argument about listening to what the average Muslim thinks about Christians is a moot point. Since the average Muslim doesn't interact with Christians. Of interest however, should be what these Muslim leaders or clerics in madrassas are inculcating in their general population. Something tells me, that from that you'll get what the 'average' Muslim thinks. And by that I'm proposing that on the mean...it would be fair to say that 'dialoging' with Christians isn't high on their priority list.

Catholicism has an orthodoxy defined by historic councils and an episcopacy, not just the Bible. Islam does not have anything of the same weight. It principally has the Quran and no other authoritative interpreter.

​@@user-gs4oi1fm4l in every issue that has to do with Islam, the most important question revolves around who is authorized to interpret Islam. There is, after all, no Muslim pope. It wasn't always "Sola Scriptura" with Muslims either, though. If you don't see that, again, I'd encourage you to check out Carl Ernst's book I mentioned above.

@Chiyo Next Door well as of today, I know of ZERO Catholics murdering MUZLIM people but the exact opposite happening worldwide EVERY DAY. And most of their faith is coerced and they believe Allah gives them the right to kill if not adaptive to them. It’s really Evil Tyranny imo. Thank the Lord I’m Catholic everyday. 🙋🏻‍♀️🙏

@Chiyo Next Door That mostly depends on the type of judgement. There is a righteous judgement and judgements that Jesus Christ told is prohibitted.

Well Catholic won’t kill you for leaving the faith. Muslim might with big probability.

Since Christians never believed that Mary was part of the Trinity: not a problem. That’s the problem with you guys, you don’t even know that the Koran is just a bunch of corrupted texts. “Tales of the ancients” is about the only real thing in it.

@@justaminute3111 One day you will know the truth, at least you can't say a warner did not come to you. Take care.

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Well tbh there is a difference between sinning and full on denying the faith and practicing a different religion. Also everyone sins but it's ok to point out when something is a sin. How else would people stop doing it? Part of loving your neighbor is desiring Heaven and not Hell for them. I do think people could go about these discussions differently such as by talking about what they love about their faith. But still.

Watched this too as a Muslim. Guy seems to have parroted without researching on his own. Ignorance annoys me.

You are not as true Muslim because Muslims HAVE to Live according to the Quran. You have to Live according to Mohamed.... otherwise you are a unbeliever and infidel.

@@vi683a and we live according to him. Go read up about the conquest of makkah. You ignorants barely have any knowledge on Islam except for what Bush and movies have taught you.

@@dudelikeseriously8418 Actually, his comments were pretty mild. You are likely a Westernised Muslim. Have you actually read the barbarism in Shariah? Are you happy that you are are supposed to be a slave of your god and love Mohammad more than anything else in your life? Do you know that you are supposed to take Muhammad as you complete moral pattern? Have you actually thought about his actions during his lifetime? Do you know that virtually all the peaceful verses of the Koran have been abrogated? And best of all, have you actually paid attention to all the bizarre and contradictory stories that you are required by your faith to believe as true as to the beginnings of Islam? Actually, (to me) best of all, do you really believe that Mecca is the oldest city on earth? (If you read the Koran with your brain switched on, you will realise that the landscape described (wheat, date palms, olives) does not fit the locality of Mecca. A big wall of text, I know. But maybe you could take one or two and actually independently investigate. Oh, wait, did you also know that a true, believing Muslim never asks questions? So, I guess that you can’t

Of course they do. Why would they tell the truth? Either that, or they are completely oblivious to what’s going on in the Middle East as well as what their Quran actually says.

It happens mostly in people's imaginations

Where did you grow up?

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@@izabeera166 Houston

I am Ex Muslim that grew up around Muslims and within a Islamic background. I never doubted the existence of Muslims that are good people. Tons of my family members are devout. But I never understand why non Muslims say stuff like this. Like imagine if I went, "Hispanics are some of the nicest people that I ever met". It is like treating Muslims are some kind of curious species of animal.

As a Latino Catholic who grew up with Muslims as well, I can relate. Most of the Muslims I knew didn't really try to convert me, and strangely, the most conservative Muslim I knew was by far the most pro-Christian.

Your religion is the Antichrist

Jesus said there is no God beside him. Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Jesus is God and appeared in bodily form before becoming flesh. We clearly see the three persons of the trinity mentioned here too. Isaiah 48:12-16 Jude 5. Jesus saying he predates his incarnite transformation. An often overlooked verse that speaks to this is Jude 5 where it says Jesus saved the people out of Egypt and also destroyed those who did not believe. These events are least over 1200 years before Jesus was born

@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep Numbers 23:19 "God is not a man…" Hosea 11:9 "...For I am God, and not man..." Jesus is called a man many times in the Bible: John 8:40 "…a man who has told you the truth…" Acts 2:22 "Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know." Acts 17:31 "He will judge the world in righteousness through a man whom He has appointed" 1.Tim. 2:5 "…the man Christ Jesus." John 14:28 "My Father is greater than I." John 10:29 "My father is greater than all." Luke 11:2 "When you pray, say Our Father which art in heaven." John 16:23 "In that day, you shall ask me nothing. Whatsoever you ask of the Father in my name." John 4:23 "The hour cometh and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father seeketh such to worship him." John 17:3 "…that they might know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." Jesus prayed to God all night: Luke 6:12 "he continued all night in prayer to God." Hebrews 5:7 "During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission." Who was Jesus praying to when he fell on his face with loud cries and petitions? Was it himself? Was Jesus crying in tears to himself pleading to be saved from death? No man, sane or insane, prays to himself! Surely the answer must be a resounding ‘No.’ Jesus was praying to "the only true God." Jesus was the servant of the One Who sent him. Can there be a clearer proof that Jesus was not God? The Quran confirms that Jesus called for the worship of the Only True God: "Truly, God is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him (alone). This is the straight path." (Quran 3:51)

@@kaya1481 Notice how you never addressed what the text says that I presented. Is or is it not scripture? That is why cross referencing and establishing context is so important. In fact the principle is in the text. It says truth is establishing in the mouth of two or three. That is why God always sent two or more prophets to give his word in the old testament. Jesus said there is no God beside me. In other words He is God and the Father is also God is they must be one. You know Jesus is also called the NAIL in Isaiah talking about the work of the cross to come right? God told Moses to build the tabernacle with every pole holding up the wall of the tabernacle had silver and brass on it speaking of redemption and suffering, the pole of wood speaks of his physical flesh his body it is acacia wood meaning eternal flesh the rope connected to the pole is made out of goats hair that had 11 strands of it in the rope, 11 is the number of destruction and goats hair speaks of sin, he destroyed our sin. The nail in the ground connected to the rope is brass, God said it should only be half way in the ground and half way out. Jesus is called the nail in Isaiah, and half in half out means he died and rose again. Every year the high priest would go into the holy of holies in the tabernacle remember? What did the high priest do before that? Made the sacrifice at the alter and DIPPED the bottom of his robe in the BLOOD of the sacrifice then WALKED to EVERY piece of furniture. The laver, lamp stand, table of shobread, incense, then holy of holies the ark. All the pieces of furniture were positioned in the giant shape of a cross throughout the whole grounds of the tabernacle. The high priest walking to each dragging blood made a giant blood CROSS on the ground if viewed from above. This clearly speaks of Jesus and his perfect sacrifice on the cross. Is Isaiah and Moses scripture or not? Jesus, God is found throughout all the old testament. Look at God telling Israel to look at the serpent on the pole to be healed. That is sin destroyed on the cross. Or Joseph being betrayed by his 11 brothers and being put in a hole for 3 days then taken out. That is Jesus being betrayed by all the disciples and dying for 3 days and being resurrected. Or Abraham and Issac, son carrying wood to be sacrificed on up the hill. Son obeying will of Father. And so on and so on. Is that all not scripture or not? Jesus revealed himself to man all along. The name Jesus as Jesus said is the name of God given at the burning bush which was Jesus. Je= IAM, sus= from moses fulfilling prophecy the second half coming form the name of moses. The name Jesus means GOD WHO SAVES BY WATER. Jesus is called the living water, the Word. Secondly the scripture you wrote can be understood looking at the context. Jesus is both man AND God. The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Spirit, the Spirit is not the Father and so on. They are all individual persons and one God. The Father, Son, Spirit are all equal in nature, different in relationship. You can google a page that establishes this for each member of the trinity possessing the full nature of God. Scriptures to show the Father, Son and Holy Spirit each individually are all powerful, all present, all knowing, eternal/unchanging.

@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeepThere is so much I can say but I don't have the time. Please even if its just for reference please do watch this video Why Are So Many Christian Priests Reverting to Islam? | Yusuf Estes kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mrOVY66Dm5-7mX0.html All the best, no hard feelings despite our differences. :) I pray God guides you and protects you.