How NOT to submit to the 3D challenges.

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"Why did my render not make the All Renders Montage?" is probably the biggest question I get during these 3D challenges, so it's about time I made a video showing you exactly how I comb through pass vs. fail renders (technically speaking, not creatively).
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@maniakdesign96 Жыл бұрын

Cool this is my first time participating in your awesome chalenge , i cannot join the discord for some reason so im gonna ask the question here . What format do we submit in ? Thanks!

@lwdesign3743 Жыл бұрын

Frame Rate: 24fps • Resolution: 1920x810 or 3840x1620 (no other resolutions allowed. Makes judging ROUGH otherwise) • Frame Count: 120 (1-120) • File Type: MP4 • Codec: h.264 • File Size: Under 100MB

@pwnisher Жыл бұрын

Hmmm, strange, as you should be able to, but here I got you with the tech specs: Frame Rate: 24fps Resolution: 1920x810 or 3840x1620 *(no other resolutions allowed. Makes judging ROUGH otherwise)* Frame Count: 120 (1-120) File Type: MP4 Codec: h.264 File Size: Under 100MB

@maniakdesign96 Жыл бұрын

@@lwdesign3743 Thank you !

@maniakdesign96 Жыл бұрын

@@dontkillmejay8570 Thanks i enter everything , but when it ask me to enter the code it tells me its already being used.

@SkullaFang Жыл бұрын

@@pwnisher What is a Codec?

@DarrenNoFun Жыл бұрын

In college my professor always said(in regards to film festivals or script writing competitions) "if you can't put the effort in to follow the requested standards, then how do they know you followed the rest of the requirements? They don't care if your project goes in the bin, they have hundreds of submissions. Yours could be the best most artistic piece of art ever arted, but that doesn't matter."

@Brixujel_Rimulex Жыл бұрын

Couldn't have said it better myself. Had a very hard prof during college myself that drilled this mindset into our heads. Still sticks with me to this day. If you are gonna skip out on the basic rules, what other stuff might you try to cut corners on?

@jacoboswald5731 Жыл бұрын

Yep had a very similar prof!

@NicoleHam Жыл бұрын

That guy was full of gas. Curious what his personal portfolio looked like Sometimes the most washed up ppl have the most to say about “how to make it”. Judging by their bitterness, maybe it isnt advice you should take.

@justindavis2711 Жыл бұрын

@Nicole Ham Nothing he said sounds bitter, its just blunt and truthful. As someone who is reasonably successful in the 3D Art world, I couldn't agree with him more.

@seokkyunhong8812 Жыл бұрын

@@NicoleHam following basic instruction is a necessity in any field.

@whynotanyting Жыл бұрын

As harsh as it is, it's totally understandable. One man fixing 100 renders is much worse than 100 people each fixing 1 render.

@DocWilco Жыл бұрын

Add to that the fact that fixing any of the problems with just the end result is a lot harder than setting the right parameters before rendering.

@DocWilco Жыл бұрын

You can argue that FPS is easy to fix if Clint doesn't use the audio, but everything else is not. And if audio does get used, resampling can do weird unintended things. Quality is compromised and it's all avoided by a couple of simple steps before you hit the render button.

@squidge903 Жыл бұрын

It ain't 'harsh' - it's life. If someone can't follow basic, clear directions, that's on them. Nothing harsh about it. Sort ya sh1t out.

@funguy8801 Жыл бұрын

I'm not a 3D artist, but I understand video standards. And it blows my mind that so many clearly talented artists would go through all the effort and time to create their art, yet ignore such simple technical details regarding the required format specs. That's crazy.

@SirDankleberry Жыл бұрын

@@squidge903 Why did you censor yourself? Sort your shit out.

@AdiusOmega Жыл бұрын

This is how it is in the professional industry. Follow directions and follow protocol and you're going to be two steps ahead of everyone else. These details matter when it comes to production and the limitations are set for very specific reasons. Be specific.

@pwnisher Жыл бұрын

Too true!

@blockwarrior0088 Жыл бұрын

@@pwnisher my resolution is 1920-1080 and my frames are 30, can it be a littler over? Like 30 would be better right in frames right or does it absolutely have to be 24 and 1929-1080? Edit: nvm ignor this comment I figured it out.

@AussieDaz87 Жыл бұрын

@@blockwarrior0088 did you even watch the video?!

@10secondsrule Жыл бұрын

@@blockwarrior0088dude that’s what’s why the world is going to sh..t. Nobody listens. 😢

@StefanCreates Жыл бұрын

@@blockwarrior0088 ffs dude 😑

@mycroft16 Жыл бұрын

I have never understood how someone can see a list of standards and then think, "yeah, it's totally cool if I make mine different."

@funguy8801 Жыл бұрын

Ignorance? Over-confidence? Idiocy? ... Yer takes yer pick! 🤣

@funguy398 Жыл бұрын

they forgor 💀

@hubguy Жыл бұрын

There’s an idea among plenty of artists that you should challenge the norm and the standards. Which while yeah I think one should, there’s times and places for them. Submitting something in a way that doesn’t make someone do a needless amount of work to adjust isn’t one of those times or places lol

@simonzhang3D 3 ай бұрын

@@funguy398 how can you forget lol. Its like 3 checkboxes to check .... frame count and framerate and dimensions XD

@janimaterful Жыл бұрын

Good on ya man for holding contestants to the specs, and showing exactly how you are QCing the submissions. This is the level of accuracy and attention to detail required in the industry, no reason this should be different 😄

@Mattfication Жыл бұрын

Would be cool merch idea if you made each challenge into a badge. You could collect them like Ash does his gym badges in Pokemon.

@ReaperTheRager Жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting this video! Always good to reinforce good workflow habits. My animation professors hammered us on specs every assignment. If you can't sweat the small stuff you won't be trusted to sweat the big stuff. Hurts to think that some great artists got rejected on a job application because their render was a fraction off the specs the client was asking for but thems the breaks.

@finnbacon Жыл бұрын

I am SO exited to see the results from this render challenge! Your challenge series has to be my favorite on this platform! Getting to see all of the creativity really gives me a boost in motivation!

@7WeirdSeeds Жыл бұрын

Those WIP renders looked waaay too good. I'm getting cold feet.

@NFCloud Жыл бұрын

Lets be honest, those people just have way more spare time than most!

@KwameGyanko Жыл бұрын

@@NFCloud or they're just better

@bvbs5572 Жыл бұрын

@@NFCloud I have the most spare time yet I can't achieve that yet

@LineOfThy Жыл бұрын

if detailed 3D renders aren't your thing, go for style points and make something simpler

@DJanGAta Жыл бұрын

@@NFCloud not really, but they do utilize a lot of kitbashing and assets from previous work, also a lot of bought assets, not everybody wants to design and model everything from scrats. also you'd be surprised how fast some people work.

@SSZaris Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for doing a vehicle themed challenge. I can't wait to see all the awesome submissions.

@PavusthePug Жыл бұрын

Thanks for uploading this! This is my first time competing in any kind of 3D challenge, so this is very helpful! I realize I had some things off that would have put me in the pit of despair. Haha. Thanks!

@ultimaweapon6 Жыл бұрын

I love your Bridges hat it's great to see another death stranding fan thank you man I'm sure you're excited for number 2

@erekhronmusic Жыл бұрын

DAT Bridges cap 🚀🔥 Awesome stuff again, can't wait to see the results!!

@jaredbanks5606 Жыл бұрын

Cant wait to see the result of this collective effort at work. The samples show here certainly helped wet my appetite.

@TheHobbit28 Жыл бұрын

This is the first time I participate in a Challange and it's really fun. Hope I can finish in time, specially because I'm really sick at the moment. Good luck to all!

@pwnisher Жыл бұрын

Yoooo, get well and good luck! Hang in there!

@_S_P_A_C_E_M_A_N_ Жыл бұрын

I'm in the same boat. Good luck to us both

@TheHobbit28 Жыл бұрын

@@pwnisher Thanks :) BTW you have a really great and supportive community on your Discord

@alpenfoxvideo7255 Жыл бұрын

I'm not a 3D artist, but as a video producer I know this pain and the machinetime I had to throw away to interpolate the footage

@janeblogs324 Жыл бұрын

Takes 2 clicks of the mouse in unity

@nilu7 2 ай бұрын

@@janeblogs324are these animations made in unity?

@DA_POPCAT018 Жыл бұрын

This is amazing, great job clint

@DA_POPCAT018 Жыл бұрын

@user-eq6hv5gb2n Жыл бұрын

@AustinThomasFilms Жыл бұрын

Excited to enter! Will definitely be double and triple checking my render to make sure it's correct!

@RiverHeights 9 ай бұрын

I've done this over 5 times already for the boss fight

@D0S81 Жыл бұрын

One day i will catch one of these in time and get a 2d animation in that looks 3d. i love seeing these challenge montages man. so many great artists out there.

@sannyassi73 Жыл бұрын

Yuuuup! All of this makes complete sense. You'd have to do SOOOOOOO much work to make all those 'little' changes!

@KlassAnimated Жыл бұрын

Sad I missed this one, but I’ll be ready for the next one!

@pranavkaushik9964 Жыл бұрын

I love your 3D challenges I've been participating for these challenges since the beginning of 2021 and I really enjoy them Please don't stop hosting these

@Scouty Жыл бұрын

Great video and much needed, I remember i messed this all up when I did my Infinite Journeys submission, if only I had used resolve then!

@mark4motion68 Жыл бұрын

These renders are sick already

@MRasey22 Жыл бұрын

Wow great renders in there already

@bovus666 Жыл бұрын

It's so important to adhere to set standards, and it's important to practice that in life. Especially working within technology! I don't have time to participate, but I appreciate this spotlight on why it's important (since you set the standards!).

@legacylee Жыл бұрын

le pit, I keep forgetting to jump into the DC, was having issues with my animation, but i'ma try to figure it right now. Day off so I finally get to work on some stuff!!! I'll pop on over soon enough. Good luck to everyone submitting, it's been real fun to watch these challenges come together. You lot are a talented bunch! @pwnisher sup my dude see ya around! Take care everyone!

@legacylee Жыл бұрын

I missed yet another deadline, ugh, spent that last couple of weeks in and out of the hospital, missing time from work, and just got the new job too, dealing with coming back from a concussion, sucks. But I did learn a ton @pwnisher that I did do. You know what's crazy, I took my unfinished render and ran it through gen 1 by runway and got some pretty amazing results, I don't know if that would have been allowed in the challenge but the fact that I was able to turn my Mad Max themed render into something that looks like it came straight out of Mad Max by using AI image style transfer to video, I don't even have to do all the work that Niko and the guys had to do when they made rock paper cross blades! Thanks again Clint I still got out of this what I wanted to and that's to learn as much as I can at the end of the day that's what I look to get out of these challenges, so thanks man I can't wait to see the rest of the renders, I've already seen a ton of awesome ones good luck to everyone and keep crushing y'all

@yourlocalwhat8272 Жыл бұрын

HOW HAVE PEOPLE MADE **THAT** ALREADY??? I gotta stop wasting time and get to work man 😭 Good luck everyone, can't wait to see the montages this is going to be sick as hell

@sameez8701 Жыл бұрын

did you end up submitting one? If so which one?

@yourlocalwhat8272 Жыл бұрын

@@sameez8701 I didn't, the submission date came and went without me realising, I completely forgot about the challenge 😭😭 I'll get the next one though, and now I know whati have to do differently to make it work Thanks for asking! Did you submit?

@MarkArandjus Жыл бұрын

And it's not like it's a bunch of technical requirements either. Just 3: framerate, resolution and length. In a video montage that's supposed to have identical motion this is super important to have seamless transitions.

@Dragon.x29 Жыл бұрын

Love your videos

@MichaelHickman3D Жыл бұрын

A little anxious to finish this challenge, but I'll try!!

@pixelkat1819 Жыл бұрын

That explains why my 120 entries, but only 1 frame each, never gets considered? Thats bogus man, bogus!

@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr Жыл бұрын

not following clear instructions is bogus

@Jwats96 Жыл бұрын

@@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr it's a joke

@LineOfThy Жыл бұрын

REVOLT

@arunm8230 Жыл бұрын

what a perfect time to find this video ...hope i join next challenge

@nonamedpleb Жыл бұрын

those clips where 1 off might come from them using frame#1 as the starting point (rather than at 0). then they put frame 144 as end point and call it a day, not realizing the total frames rendered will only add up to 143.

@jacobdanielsmith Жыл бұрын

My favorite line, "You do not want to be.. in The Pit of Despair. Few artists make it out. Most of 'em.........they're in The Pit tah dis DAY." 4:10

@skiFsballs Жыл бұрын

Why is youtube specifically recommending me this video that I have no context for. Lmao, I love it

@Ryferion Жыл бұрын

oh crap I forgot about this challenge time to start!!

@MichaelV118 Жыл бұрын

I am about to submit. This was fun I wish I had more time to have worked on it.

@PonyBoy1776 Жыл бұрын

Love the death stranding hat

@kuromiLayfe Жыл бұрын

Only reason I barely do render challenges or collabs.. : you set everything up correctly…it looks exactly as requested in the program and in the file details, you hit render and… the final render after 3-12 hours has missing frames or slightly different resolution or even worse … it is just green or black screen

@nemex490 Жыл бұрын

cant wait so submit my lil scene :D

@vistisfilm Жыл бұрын

Hey what are the rules on including things that aren't your creation? Such as image textures from the internet, models from quixel megascans, or animation from Mixamo?

@efroshaq7697 3 ай бұрын

I would love to see a video of all the submissions that go into the pit of despair just to see what other people made

@SnareGG Жыл бұрын

that 1st second was so intense i had to watch it 3 times. please sir dont hurt me

@asaph96 Жыл бұрын

Performance capture, bro really learned

@jacknguyen3420 Жыл бұрын

I don't even know how to render something like that (the top 100 3D vehicle video) I just knew an intermediate amount of modelling and tried to do a simple animation (in which it didn't rendered), not to mentioned the damn textures (basically making my Laptop barely alive) So....any tips that you recommended? Besides I need to get out of the thing called "Tutorial Jail"

@RossRandomStuff Жыл бұрын

Goddanggit! I won't be able to join this time around, anyways, goodluck to everyone participating and goodluck not to fall in the pit of despair!

@Kobekola Жыл бұрын

Never seen your content before (besides challenges) and at 0:00 I thought I was about to get an uppercut

@thephoenix4363 Жыл бұрын

Bro you gonna make me start 3d arts fr

@captainvenom7252 Жыл бұрын

What am i also in despairs? Him: always has been

@SandarianMD Жыл бұрын

I'm not a modeling man myself (we'll see for the future) but my brother's submitting, so looking forward to seeing his render in the montage! (Cuz he's gonna win :D)

@nodecrasher4991 Жыл бұрын

Seeing a somewhat basic submissions - blew up my mind. I'm so bad at Blender, gonna go KMS

@Chazman2705 Жыл бұрын

"Ya tell me about it, my profs pretty strict too." "Yeah? Who's your teacher" "Mr. Pwnisher" "Dafuq?"

@BennieWoodell Жыл бұрын

I love how it's called the pit of despair lol.

@WhoCameAfter Жыл бұрын

I LOVE THAT WE ARE NOW SAYING PERFORMANCE CAPTURE!!

@kucklowmusic9184 Жыл бұрын

thats really cool, whats the final date for submission ?

@grimsdagger Жыл бұрын

It would be cool to see a video made from the pit of despair renders

@pwnisher Жыл бұрын

Hahaha man, that would be like, the hall of shame montage.

@thesecretchannel4256 9 ай бұрын

question: how do you find or where do you find the area to see what framerate, resolution and fps rules

@andrewb1993 Жыл бұрын

Ill say it again Write a script Create a challenge Combine all rendering Create a 40min to 1hr movie

@Ponlets Жыл бұрын

this looks neat :3 imma do something for this later :3 i have an already silly idea for it more or less :3

@hodaharkous3662 Жыл бұрын

nice!

@D0S81 Жыл бұрын

I'm actually curious how people frame rate, and resolution size etc, can get messed up when isn't it part of the original template file?

@jknMEMES Жыл бұрын

I've been considering enter these challenges some day. Just wondering, is it allowed to use shaders, HDRI's and assets from the internet or shall everything be made from the bottom?

@kaleabspica8437 Жыл бұрын

not from the bottom

@RiverHeights 9 ай бұрын

Nobody makes everything from bottom and has time, it's fine

@fabiansanchez954 Жыл бұрын

i have a doubt , blender file by default starts rendering at frame 1, is a total of 120 frames counting from 0 or 1?

@hexcodeff6624 Жыл бұрын

Do you have to fill out the submission form to get the challenge requirements?

@toothless5553 9 ай бұрын

If u get in the pit of despair do u still show it when u do the videos that are like 5 hours long and has all the art or is it just not know

@parallax_cgi Жыл бұрын

Hello clint ! I finally composited my work and imported it to Davinci Resolve and the fps is okay frames, count is okay, resolution is okay but the only problem is formate shows as Quicktime even it's a MP4 file and Video Codec shows as H.264 Main L4.0. Is it good to submit ?

@parallax_cgi Жыл бұрын

I double checked everything and I'm pretty sure it's Mp4 but idk why its shows like that in Davinci Resolve

@likvideo Жыл бұрын

H264 is ok for MP4 format, so it's fine

@gurratell7326 Жыл бұрын

Hey @pwnisher, is it allowed to submit more than one entry? :)

@uknowverse Жыл бұрын

I have a question: I downloaded the starter files and the unreal file won't open. they say it requires 522. Does this mean the Unreal 5.22? Do we even have it?

@danbolamu7207 Жыл бұрын

Je crois que je vais me lancer pour le prochain défi 😄

@bahwash2307 Жыл бұрын

the dude who was only 2 resolution height away from making it to the montage be like:

@taqdirhassanali5111 Жыл бұрын

Hi Clint I noticed that a game called avatars saga has been using your kung fu render challenge videos on their ads

@sinomerobotics7124 Жыл бұрын

Hey! It's a great opportunity for emerging artists to showcase their works to the public and I'm taking a shot too but I'm not able to submit my render on the form. When i press the submit button, it prompts 'Something went wrong'. Could you please help? Thanks!!

@frmtheden Жыл бұрын

Im curious what is the software that you should use for this challenge and what minimum system requirements are needed? I have a Ryzen 9 3900X / 64GB Ram / RTX 2080, I currently have been programing and learning Unity and havent yet jumped into Unreal but these challenges really interest me and inspire me to learn this style of animation even if its very simple just wanted to get in the environment and start learning.

@atch300 Жыл бұрын

I work on an mac youre all good bro

@frmtheden Жыл бұрын

@@atch300 so Unreal Engine is the main software needed for this challenge?

@atch300 Жыл бұрын

@@frmtheden no, any 3d program. Blender, c4d, maya, unreal, anything. I’m using blender The main software for the majority of submissions are gonna be blender or c4d

@fatih.tavukcu Жыл бұрын

So which one is it @pwnisher. 120 frames or 144, as you threw out all the ones that have less or more than 144 frames into the pit, but then at @3:49 you show on screen the frame count has to be 120.

@kevinfranklin3155 Жыл бұрын

144 was for the last challenge. 120 is for this current project

@Ponlets Жыл бұрын

can the renders be done in Cycles or EEVEE (can we choose which render engine?)

@alexangell903 Жыл бұрын

Hey punisher, I am building a to get into digital art and renders like this… which I have been planning to do for a very long time. I was wondering if the RTX 3080ti would be good enough or could handle this. Would I have issues? Im not sure really, the only difference seems to be vram between the 3080ti and 3090. How important is the extra 12g of vram?

@Baybren Жыл бұрын

3090 here, I don't often use over 12 GB of VRAM, but when you need it - you need it. Although, usually by optimizing you can get things to fit into however much VRAM you have; with the 3090 optimization isn't so much of a concern.

@alexangell903 Жыл бұрын

@@Baybren What kind of work or projects cause you to go over 12g ram then? Also wouldn’t the 40 series not be good for that since they seem to only have 16g vram? Personally not interested in that 40’s series.

@CellarLakeStudios Жыл бұрын

Thought you were going to come in and punch me in the face there.

@MrDarthdaver Жыл бұрын

Would love to learn how to render/animate like this. I have no idea how to start. At first it´s a little overwhelming and i dont know where to start. I wonder how others got into learning. I finally have a PC good enough 😅

@blendermanIII Жыл бұрын

I'd recommend the famous "donut tutorial" by Blender Guru, that's the standard for learning Blender

@MrDarthdaver Жыл бұрын

@@blendermanIII Thank you! Yeah i searched out some creators for some tutorials. BlenderGuru, Josh Gambrell, Ryan King Art, Max Hay, Ducky 3D for example. Lets see where this road will bring me ^^

@marcfuchs6938 7 ай бұрын

Haha, I am the editor of a big dashcam channel, so I have to do deal with loads of garbled footage. =) You wouldn't believe, how many clips come in with a very messy framerate I am starting to wonder, if it's actually the cameras recording bad framerates. We are talking about every 5th frame or something being the same is the one before, so actual doubled frames. It works for automatic tracking, but it sucks for manual tracking and prevends smooth slomos. Often I have sat there and manually removing doubled frames and re-render. When producing own videos, it's very important to me that it's properly made. My purely private videos are way better, than they need to be. Anyway, since I also work in 3D, maybe one day I'll be part of such a challenge. =D

@maniakdesign96 Жыл бұрын

I would love to join your discord community but i am having problem with the last step , it telling me that the code i enter is already being used , who can i contact to get help? Thanks ! and im realy really looking to see everybody work. ✌😎

@lazycreator7794 Жыл бұрын

Don't have a pc or laptop right now ☹, but definitely will create something on the next challenge. Wish me goodluck 💪.

@michaelpiper8198 Жыл бұрын

Hells yeah imma participate… well imma teach myself how to do all of this…THEN imma participate but still LETS GO!!

@MrJev Жыл бұрын

Sorry for not asking this on the stream but what are the rules with music, like what if we kinda needed it to further show the story can we use it, and like would it have to be non-copyright, stuff like that. Thanks 👍i cant wait to see all the submissions

@RiverHeights 9 ай бұрын

The music you put won't be judged since their is going to be a soundtrack for the Top 100 renders and All artist submission renders, so don't worry about it

@tortoiseyeeter7232 Жыл бұрын

Do you have a animation I can Download for the render for reference?

@Gear-Logic Жыл бұрын

Didn't notice this was a thing till today.. oh well, better late than never!

@makeitlastmedia Жыл бұрын

when is the end date to submit project?

@wisequigon Жыл бұрын

Press F for those 2 with good resolution that were sent to the pit...

@lord_of_the_endgaming2375 Жыл бұрын

will there be another challenge like this?

@jacksimcox Жыл бұрын

I won't get disqualified if something in the forground obstructs the camera?

@jawadoumar Жыл бұрын

I've participated but I'm not getting any time to make the render. I've done modeling a vehical and a character but I'm way too busy. 😩

@jamieowen4 Жыл бұрын

I only found out about the challenge yesterday, im still gonna try though with 3 weeks and full time job and i never work with motion 3d mainly just still 3d... wish me luck i guess

@fa1_z Жыл бұрын

“Also jail,” killed me 😂

@ItsAkile Жыл бұрын

🔥🔥

@creatroyer2701 Жыл бұрын

This is relatable for everybody that had to deal with a strict teacher/professor. My heart sank when he disregarded all of those submission. I've been in the same situation before with a final project at the end of the deadline. Kinda harsh but rules are rules, it's like a job you have to properly do it or else no pay in this case no submission.