I think that Vader was the kinda Black Ops leader, doing the under the radar heavy work.

Great point.

this would be a good point IF Rebels wasn't a Disney creation. meaning that Disney has altered and dismissed Canon whenever previously established Canon/Facts got in the way of their story. until Disney, EVERYONE knew who Vader was or had atleast heard the name. Vader VERY publicly led multiple campaigns across the galaxy spreading fear to all who heard. Ezra and Kanan not knowing could be waved away as them not paying attention to the broader parts of the galaxy, correct me if i'm wrong but didn't Kanan and co also not know about the Inquisitors? as for Ahsoka i'm not sure but i think you might be wrong on that count. especially when Ahsoka seemed to pick up on Vader being someone she knew when she felt his presence

😂 that shit is dumb. Using Disney fuck ups to justify other Disney fuck ups Really can’t justify the reason the content is that way. Vader would still be known among Jedi as they are being hunted down

I believe that Ashoka did know about Vader, she just didn’t know that Anakin was Vader. I may be wrong though.

Yes!

How did they disrespect him in NH. They only seem to underestimate the force because they have no knowledge of it.

@@nicoledreamcr4666 Motti clearly disrespects him saying how his sorcerers ways didn't give him clairvoyance enough to find the stolen plans. He basically called him incompetent

Thank you. People just love bashing on everything new. It’s so lame

@@jaylonbanks2604 totally agree! Even Star Wars Theory is bashing on new things now. You can’t find a single Star Wars channel nowadays that isn’t loaded with negativity. But hey negativity gets you likes and comments so...

Millers story is set in 19BBY, not 9BBY!

god forbid you complain, that would be toxic.

@@elisaryse you are correct - it states at the beginning of the book in the 'Novels Timeline' 19 years before 'A New Hope'....right after ROTS. Obi-Wan has to make trips into Mos Espy and Mos Eisley for supplies. On one excursion in Mos Eisley with the settlers he's befriended they accidentally bump into Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru carrying the young baby Luke! (Pg 272) Obi freaks out and uses the force to shift their landspeeder into high-speed to get out of there quick!! So yes, he would have found out about Vader at some point in this way.

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Nice try but that book is set in 19BBY

He figured it out in the book as well

Who is bail

@@Reina_Kousaka bail organa Leias dad. Not biological

In the book Bail dealt with Vader early, and in fact Vader pursued a jedi trying to hide there and Bail had to conceal Leia. There is no way Kenobi would not have known for ten years having stayed in touch with Bail.

@@shkotayd9749 yeah wich annoys me in the series. In the series people should know about Vader as a character, and a few as Bail should know from Obi-Wan that it is Anakin

But that's Theory's point. It's weird writing. It's more natural the way it happened in the book.

@@theroyalmediator2658 I completely agreed with him before I wrote the segment giving some due credit to the writers for being creative and still staying within the fine lines of what's canon by time Ep. IV timeline begins. He was always thought of a desert hermit by the locals.

@@raganmaxwell4253 But Kenobi in Ep 4 is also aware of things on Tatooine (and I'm not trying to attack you, I just disagree with the writers' choice. And you're probably right, in that I could've been more clear). Kenobi knows WHERE to find a pilot (and not just the city, he knows the EXACT cantina to go to), he knows what it'll be like there ("You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy"), and he's not AT ALL uncomfortable there like Luke is (knows he can cut off a man's arm WITH A LIGHTSABER and leave it there and no one will care). All these things suggest familiarity, that Kenobi SHOULDN'T just be going from work to home and back, that he's spent time on the planet even if he MOSTLY keeps to himself (one can be in public and still keep to oneself). One would also imagine that if Kenobi is going to protect Luke, he needs to know what's going on on the planet and to a certain extent what's going on in the galaxy. That's my issue with the writers' choice.

@@theroyalmediator2658 all that adds up perfectly, but this is still taking place early in Kenobi's time spent on the task of protecting Luke. It makes sense that some time would pass while he remains a completely broken man and gives the show some time to flesh out a story the specifically explains Kenobi coming into his own again and restoring his faith in himself and the galaxy's future. They aim to make another season, so it only makes sense that they would begin the story from developmental beginnings in his time on Tatooine. There's a lot of it that is certainly off-putting, but for the most part, I feel like they've done a good job of towing the fine line that is what's possible canon in the 19 year gap between films.

@@raganmaxwell4253 To be honest, I could probably agree with you more if this wasn't 10 YEARS after ROTS. If you want to say this is during the first year some of these things happen or two years in it would make more sense (which is what I would view as "early" into his time protecting Luke), but TEN YEARS is a little much for me. There's only 19 years between ROTS and ANH and this story wants us to believe Obi-Wan's been moping for MORE than half that time, and I just don't buy that based on what we saw directly before and directly after this period and what we've seen of Kenobi in general.

how? if we get old luke in the recent shitty films

@@ANGELX55studios satire. joke.

The last sentence of your comment is very telling pal

True, if they made like a 10 episode - 1 hour each series with a couple of time jumps where we end up in the timeline where we are now it would have allowed for a mroe organic story in line with canon and more room for some other characters to be shown without taking anything away from Anakin/Obi Wan edity: lol theory says the same thing, handnt finished the video.

HOW IS HEARING ABBOUT VADER ON TV BETTER THAN A YOUNGLING ORDER 66 SURVIVOR i

I think so too. I am fine with it not being another show on Tattooine. And I think the show has been great. I really don’t understand the hate it gets.

@@wheattoast1971 yeah same here

Exactly. Him finding out in a cantina by overhear in a TV show is one of the lamest and least exciting ways they could have done it. No thank you

I agree,I mean the dude was in a desert and couldn't hear about some other dude in a mask at the other side of the Galaxy

nah it would have been too extra imo. thats not obi wan, even tho he’s down bad asf rn he still wouldnt just go crazy like that. emotional, yes. but not crazy.

i imagine it pretty lame. and think the scene with reva was hella intense with her creeping around the place and GI stepping in. And it added to the relationship development of obi-wan an leia, which was never even talked about in der opriginals. Leia knew this ben who was her only hope and none ever knew why she even trusted him with this most importand matter. originals had serious plotholes and bad writings aswell, yet george seems to have criticism armour which is now unleashed on everything disney does. disney is really not perfect. not at all. but we need to stop comlaining about everything which is not how we imagined it or we read in comics or books. With this expectations we get our selfs in a mood of constant disappointment which leads to hate on disney.

For me the book felt like more of a cameo (only time he appears in it) and it didn't really have any drama to it. Obi Wan finds out essentially on TV? Come on. I liked the conversation with Qui Gon afterwards but the actual moment of him finding out didn't land at all

It does bro was living on a desert with little communication to the outside world and btw Darth Vader is known to be mysterious in the Empire

It makes perfect sense, he was living a quiet, lonely life on a planet that the empire had little presence on. Also Vader wasn't very well known to the public.

@@jackboy2413 Yeah, in the Phantom Menace, Qui-Gon said Tatooine wasn't a planet on the radar of the republic. The people on the planet just do their own thing, and don't get involved with in politics, or threaten the empire. That's why Anakin was never discovered as a force sensitive being, and taken to be trained by the Jedi. It makes sense that Vader isn't talked about there.

@@jackboy2413 At the beginning of episode 1 of kenobi, we saw that kenobi was surrounded by a lot of people so you don’t think that he would’ve at least overheard someone mention vader? I’m guessing that he took this transport to get his food for a long time, so I think that it makes a lot of sense that he should’ve already known Vader prior to kenobi. He was known to be the main villain of the empire even more than the emperor. It doesn’t even have to be in a cantina like theory explained.

@@wilmeech ^

Yeah man we been so robbed

Much easier to write than to animate or direct though 😭 cause think about it it’s up to our own interpretation in a comic but In a movie it’s being interpreted on screen for us

Books are always better. They are not constrained by time, setting, actors, word limit, special effects, or cost.

@@alwaysbored6030 EU is real canon for the fans but not for Lucas.

They are not losing enough money to use those books. They were stupid enough to claim that those are no longer canon (which is pretty irrelevant to me as long as George Lucas doesn't say so), so they pretty much have to try their own bs until there is no other option than touching the actual good stories.

It's just kinda weird that the people of Tatooine have knowledge of who inquisitors are and what they do (the show makes that very clear) but they have no idea who their boss is? That doesn't add up.

@@hotwings80 yeah that’s a good point

@@hotwings80 well vader can't be everywhere at once. There are also a lot of inquisitors so more people would know about them since they are more active and Vader almost always goes up against high power targets. Nari was just a low level Padawan at best so Vader would not concern himself with him.

@@hotwings80 i mean, anakin knew what jedis were in episode 1 when he was on tattoine but he never saw one and would only hear legends. If you hear about jedis on tattoine, you probably hear about jedikillers too

@@alexanderalthoff9813 okay so based on what you're telling me, word does in fact spread in Tatooine so much so that a little slave boy knew of Jedi without ever seeing one, but you're telling me that in 10 years of being on Tatooine a Jedi Master never once heard the word "Vader"? You're kinda just helping me prove my point lol

@Spacetrooper hahahahaha for real bruh

No. I don't want this gentle soul lost to the void that is Disney's need to devour anything good in this world.

@Spacetrooper I mean Lucas didn't make this novel and doesn't even like legends or canon

@@Aikurisu I mean disney has made some good stuff like all of the comics,the novels,and their video games

1. He probably would have lost his other hand and ended up chilling with the dude who looked like him in the Vader costume. 2. He probably would have been more surprised at the father scene.

Can you tell which soundtrack does theory uses in his streams

@@derekhofstetler3998 bruh spoilers from a film from 1980

@@mrfarenheit26 underneath a star wars channel

@@mrfarenheit26 ikr, I still try to be the least triggering I can. We never know what cancel culture will do next.

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I don't like it because I think it sucks.

Of course it is. LucasFilm knows that. We got what we got because the peeps are more concerned with diversity instead of storytelling. Until that changes we will keep getting videos of Theory doing his best to explain why what sucks makes some sense… from a certain point of view.

@@laurants so becuase Reva revealed Anakin surivived to Obi wan and she is black means they are more concerned about diversity? Ok then

Nah

No way. It's all out of context. Reva knew Anakin and currently works for Vader, that's flawless victory.

That's what I said why this man hasn't been fired after the cyberbulling and all the trolling is beyond me, Bob Chapek just say one of the biggest woke wanker in marvel but extended Kathleen What the Fark?

its writing like this that genuinely killed my love for star wars, i gave up on Kenobi tbh, reduced to watching youtube videos about what could have been. the writing is like a C.W Gotham show but with the funding of Game of Thrones.

@@thisbubblygoodness7611 exactly. Favreau and Filoni gives us great stories, memorable characters and keeps managing to make parts of the EU canon, and this is what we get from Hidalgo and the "L"SG. Hopefully between this and the failed "Starcruiser" they'll get put in time out.

does anyone find out that background music?

Obi-Wan wasn't going around convening with people on a regular basis. His day to day activities that we saw in ep1 was literally how he had been living his life for the past 10 yrs. Vader's presence in the galaxy wasn't even fully well known at that point for people who were actually involved in politics/the current happenings of the galaxy, how do you expect a hermit who's cut himself off from the force, who doesn't go out of his way to make company, who lives on a backwater planet, to know something that even many Imperials in the loop don't know themselves?

I disagree. Many people in their 50s dont know who Trump is. Obi wan is isolated on tatooine with only qui gon to sometimes talk to, and noe one else. If you ask me its very possible that Obi Wan never learned about Vader simply because his job is meat cutting and protecting Luke 24/7

@@phaithful1423 Or, hear me out. They didn't care/know about cannon and they just wrote this to show Ewan's expression after hearing that Anakin is alive. Which they actually stated in an interview. Please, stop writing this show for them. They are lazy and incompetent. People like you are making this really easy for them.

if you actually know star wars lore you'd know that Vader is not known to the galaxy his like a myth amongst the galaxy and only imperials know of him

@@phaithful1423 yeah but to Patricks point, wasn't his main job protecting Luke based on what was said in ep1? How can he go 10 years without at least trying to keep in the loop with what the Empire is doing if his sole aim is to protect him?

"Obi wan found out on space news" is good writing?

Before the dark times, before Disney.

Can you tell which soundtrack does theory uses in his streams

Can you tell which soundtrack does theory uses in his streams

@Spacetrooper u star wars fans complain about every single fckn thing dont you, what exactly about her reveal to obi wan is so bad lol or do u just love complaining because diSneY... Reva didnt tell obi wan out of knowhere she is literally working under Vader's command and she's been established to know vader is Anakin by seeing him at the temple during order 66, and she obviously wanted to get a reaction out of Kenobi in the moment so she dropped that on him

@@BenAri18 I’m sorry it’s just what I think

Not really vader was more of a myth until the orginal trilogy in the galaxy even imperials barely knew about him.

@@Vader255 Key word: was. "Newer kanon" shows that pretty much everyone is aware of him

@@Tomemos1Jager even newer canon shows in the reign of the empire vader wasn't know famously until the original trilogy. Even the stormtroopers would mistake him for a jedi and the imperial workers didn't even respect him because he had no status. Even people like cal kestis,ezra and kanan had no idea who vader was.

I agree with everything you said. The only problem I have is how Reva telling obi wan that anakin is alive just gave them an automatic connection. As if their connection had been severed and simply gaining the knowledge that anakin had lived was enough to reconnect it? I mean maybe?! Idk. Maybe learning that information was too much for obi wan to suppress the emotions any longer and his grief was so immense that it was enough to ignite a spark between them again. If that’s the case, then I totally get it. But it is still a bit underwhelming that Reva is the one to tell obi wan. I feel like if yoda knew anakin was the one who betrayed the Jedi (without even looking at the recordings of the temple) then he could have also known that anakin survived Mustafar. That also is a missed opportunity for a training session from yoda in force communication. I still like the show either way

@@S0L12D3 The news definitely gave Obi Wan a trigger and we are used with the Jedi as stoic beings, but when it came to traumas, the human response can be erratic and atypical. It is curious how this affects the link between the Force and its user. Actually, we had hints with Grogu in Mandalorian. There are a number of moments in the show when each character reacts very different than normal, such as Vader freezing when he is interrupted while torturing Obi Wan, Obi Wan facing Vader while having a PTSD episode and Reva exploding at Vader in ep. 5 after the talk with Obi Wan and knowing she cannot beat him.

Mcgregor nailed it. Reva just shouting it randomly in a loading bay was completely random and forced.

@@CCovers1 He deserves an oscar for his portrayal of depression imo

Can you tell which soundtrack does theory uses in his streams

@@mohdshamil5652 duel of the fates

On that part I do agree, I don't think Obi Wan would have lost it, but I do think he would have shown great concern and even disbelief.

@@staroceans8677 agree completely.

Mando doesn't live on that planet and he was a child during the time of the empire of course he doesn't know

@@Vader255 Here we go...

Can you tell which soundtrack does theory uses in his streams

Too bad her character survived a stab wound that makes no sense

@@seriousnesstv7902 that stab wound is a minor inconvenience in starwars it's like getting a couple of stiches in our world

​@@seriousnesstv7902 What does that have to do with anything

@@seriousnesstv7902 well maybe some one heal her and thas way she survive hey this is Star Wars everything is possible

@@nathanbartlett2770 For a freaking Youngling? Tell me why Qui gon, Shmi, Satine, Countless Jedi, even savage oppress all die?? The die from minor wounds that were once major until Star Wars decided that anyone can live simply because they want to. Plot amour has never been so bad before

He never wrote it. It was a scene from a book, Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader by James Luceno.

It just doesn’t make sense it been ten years.

You just HAD to say "race" huh?

I think it could have been done alot better tho, alot of plot holes in the whole thing. Seems rushed to me

Yes the show hasn’t been the masterpiece we thought it would be but I still think there’s some great stuff in here.

@@legitiotjake not what I meant. Maybe I should've said "Rush" through her development instead.

@@mrfriedchicken5162 definitely. Again, overall I'm really loving the show and am having a great time with it, but it definitely has some noticeable flaws. They don't really bother me tho.

Exactly. They would be ripped apart just like all the new stuff

That's what I'm saying, I love the lucas saga (more than any disney has done) but people act like they are flawless masterpieces and they critique to smallest things like shaky cameras and weird movement when star wars was famous for doing some of these weird things.

So your just gonna act like everybody didn’t hate the prequels for like 15 years

well put ,.... i was willing to give this show time and overall i'd still 100% say i enjoyed/am enjoying it but this feels more .... even the writing .... for Reva then Obi Wan ...

Yeah and how would he recognize him seeing him in ep 4 if last time he saw anakin was burning and probably dying in mustafar.

@@Andalaeknir86 Yeah I don't know it's like if I went to the grocery store and learned my wife as a secret agent lol

10 years into the Emperor's reign and they aren't too big of a presence? gotta disagree with that one

@@thisbubblygoodness7611 not in the outer rim though. It’s stated in the show and implied in the movies. They don’t respect the empire and they don’t deal with them out there. Especially a Hutt planet. The republic never was involved on Tatooine so why would the empire be out there? Have to remember, they were only there in Ep IV because the chase for the DS plans lead them there

@@natehassed4242because EU elitists lack media literacy.

@@natehassed4242 im not disagreeing that the Empire didn't have reach on places like Tattooine, but to say that that the Empire didn't have a big presence tho? I mean, whats one or two planets in comparison to the rest of the galaxy? i guess when i think of an intergalactic empire, i suppose i would like to know what defines a 'big presence'

Can you tell which soundtrack does theory uses in his streams

He was Vader during their fight on Mustafar, how can he possibly not know who he is.

@@alwaysbored6030 he was saying he didn’t think Vader was alive

@@thewaywardson2962 Doesn't know he's still alive* my bad

@@alwaysbored6030 My brother in Christ you are toxic lmao it was a simple typo. I meant there's a good reason for him not to believe Vader is alive

Can you tell which soundtrack does theory uses in his streams

@@mohdshamil5652 no why. I thought he used his own