Obi-Wan Kenobi Episode 6 Breakdown THE END!!

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Obi-Wan tries to speak to Qui-Gon one last time as he observes his lightsaber. Saying it’s me or him and one of us needs to die. This is quite a line as Obi-Wan doesn’t normally live with such absolutes, but he knows that Vader wants to kill him and if he doesn’t succeed, then he’ll fail yoda, luke and everyone of the jedi who counted on him before. Obi-Wan heads to the planet nearby, as Vader falls for the bait, and orders the ship to follow Kenobi, as he takes his lambda t4a imperial shuttle down to meet Obi-Wan. The Grand Inquisitor disagrees with this move.
Maybe Quinlan Voss arrives in season 2.
Reva arrives at the Lars homestead.
Vader arrives on the planet, and he faces his former Master, obi-wan kenobi.
Have you come to destroy me, obi-wan?
I will do what I must, says obi-wan, the same line he says to Anakin on Mustafar, as he gets into his Kenobi clone wars stance, the same stance he tried to fight maul in on tatooine a few years later, until he changed his stance to the qui-gon jinn one.
So with this stance, it means Kenobi is pretty much as powerful as he was in revenge of the sith, like when he fought Grievous.
Then you will die, replies Vader, just like when he fought Ahsoka, as he charges kenobi, and we get them fighting with intense aggression and speed against one another. Keep in mind, this is Vader’s body, he’s immobile and this is really pushing his bad outdated cybernetics to the absolute limit as sidious gave him the literal worst mechanics in order to subdue him and punish him for losing to obi-wan kenobi on mustafar. In the old legends books, Vader was so immobile he couldn’t even raise his hands over his head, so all this is a stretch for him. In the brotherhood novel, it explains Anakin’s new robotic hand lags behind his organic one, so i can only imagine how Vader feels here. they get back to back like in their training flashback on coruscant. A lot of their fights are still mimicking their training as anakin and obi-wan in the good old days. It’s a nice connection.
Kenobi and Vader go at it, shredding rocks with their sabers, throwing boulders at each other with the force. As Kenobi drops a massive stone on Vader, who only shows him up in the force. It seems whatever vader lacks physically, he makes up for in the force. He performs a hulk smash with the force, breaking the floor as he gets the high ground on Kenobi, throwing boulder after boulder upon him, trapping Kenobi.
Obi-Wan has a hard time as he’s collapsing under the pressure of the boulders, when he hears voices of anakin from their duel on mustafar, from their training on coruscant, and from Vader now, as he crumbles in defeat until he remembers Leia and his purpose in life now, to protect the children, to live for a new hope. He’s the last line of defence for them. This gives him enough power and belief in himself to fight for something important, as he sends the boulders sky high, and breaks out of there. Now i know people in th watch party had an issue with this part as he sneaks up on Vader, I think it’s because he’s using the force to stealthily move up to him, but of course Vader feels it. Jedi can suppress their footsteps and use the force to sneak around. Kenobi is using some of Anakin’s old moves, behind the hand twirl and spins, he’s using form 3 soresu, but he’s one the offence, which isn’t all that much like obi-wan, he’s much more of a defensive fighter, which is what form 3 soresu is.
We see Anakin, Hayden’s face, as Obi-Wan drops his guard and is brought to tears as he cries for Anakin.
Vader says, anakin is gone, i am what remains. This is all so sad. Obi-Wan tells him i’m sorry Anakin, for all of it. Now this is where i feel the directing was really well done, as we see the reflection of blue and red on anakin’s face, showing his inner conflict between the light and dark, between anakin skywalker and darth vader.
Vader tells him he is not his failure, that obi-wan didn’t kill anakin skywalker, he, himself, did. And I will destroy you, As he looks sadistic and psychotic. You can tell Vader is consumed by hatred, Anakin is still there, but he’s twisted and turned by the dark side.
Obi-Wan says in pity, then my friend is truly dead, as he walks away. He knows Vader is no longer a threat, and just feels sorry for him. There’s no need to kill someone he’s beaten now twice. It’s inconsistent with what kenobi tells luke to do later, to kill his father, but maybe Vader goes super psycho powerful over the next 10 years, who knows what the story of Vader will be going forwards. The scream Vader does for Obi-Wan tops the maul kenobi scream for me. It’s haunting and so full of rage and pain at being beaten and pitied.
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@StarWarsTheory
@StarWarsTheory Жыл бұрын
Beautiful way to end the show. Thank you to all of you who showed up to all the watch parties and keep adding to this beautiful community. What did you think of this episode? Of this show as a whole? Will we get season 2? Do you want that? See you in the next video, and may the force be with you, always.
@SilentRainStorm
@SilentRainStorm Жыл бұрын
I do and don't want season 2
@MeGongaga1999
@MeGongaga1999 Жыл бұрын
How did qui gon appear when he didn’t finish his training? He could only appear in voice?
@joshpens45
@joshpens45 Жыл бұрын
Nah definitely not if you put the Vader nostalgia aside this show was complete dog shit
@thisistheway3812
@thisistheway3812 Жыл бұрын
Don't really care for a season 2 don't really care about the Reva story and Rebels and a New Hope are already fine
@Tmandoesgames
@Tmandoesgames Жыл бұрын
This show is dog poop, but I mean! The end has me swelling up
@davidcox12317
@davidcox12317 Жыл бұрын
I love how vader says I killed anakin then 10 years later Obi-Wan tells Luke that vader killed his father. Perfection
@dennis_chemist8120
@dennis_chemist8120 Жыл бұрын
I wanted to like this post twice, it just feels so damn right! :D
@davidcox12317
@davidcox12317 Жыл бұрын
@@dennis_chemist8120 thank you
@derangedband
@derangedband Жыл бұрын
haha! i didnt catch that! thats awesome :D
@ClipsAndTracks
@ClipsAndTracks Жыл бұрын
It is like poetry, it rhymes
@sunnyjohnson992
@sunnyjohnson992 Жыл бұрын
What he said was true; From a certain point of view!
@ihaveafettfetish9348
@ihaveafettfetish9348 Жыл бұрын
Anyone who called Hayden Christensen a bad actor can shut it after this finale. That conversation between Vader/Anakin and Obi-Wan was one of the greatest performances that I’ve ever seen, and one of the greatest Star Wars scenes ever. Hayden and Ewan were phenomenal in this finale! I can’t wait to see Hayden again in Ahsoka!
@ArkSucksAtGames
@ArkSucksAtGames Жыл бұрын
We only see one of his eyes and we can feel exactly what both Vader and Obi Wan feel. Great moment.
@Bearical
@Bearical Жыл бұрын
That "Then you will die" reminded me of Rebels.
@helloimtobi
@helloimtobi Жыл бұрын
@@Bearical it’s like poetry it rhymes
@dstr001
@dstr001 Жыл бұрын
Hayden was never a bad actor, thats what people dont get. He acted that way because Lucas TOLD HIM TO lol.
@coruscant100
@coruscant100 Жыл бұрын
Hayden was never the problem. He just got handed a bad script for most of his scenes; especially the romantic parts between him and Padme.
@andrewbrown2249
@andrewbrown2249 Жыл бұрын
“I am what remains” is possibly the most painful line in this. It implies that the conflict was always there, and Vader was always present in some way.
@phantomsith5168
@phantomsith5168 Жыл бұрын
& anytime a glimpse of anakin tries to return , vader like “ stay dead”
@ritchkelly2829
@ritchkelly2829 Жыл бұрын
I agree. There are moments in Anakin's life where he will engage (race scene) with anger, as does Leia. Demonstrating that good-evil is in all. The force merely amplifies and/or focuses said emotions.
@brianpotter2812
@brianpotter2812 Жыл бұрын
@@phantomsith5168 That's because the "Vader side" knows that he had to use the rage in order to stay alive. It's what's keeping him in balance. If he lets the light overcome him, Sidious knows that he will be lost and will just kill him off.
@brianpotter2812
@brianpotter2812 Жыл бұрын
But the conflict was always there, and still is all the way through Return of the Jedi. It's this conflict within that ends up saving Anakin and allows him to save his own son from the Emperor.
@mrdr1ggy
@mrdr1ggy Жыл бұрын
nah..it's just horrible scrips
@armincartoonist
@armincartoonist Жыл бұрын
Obi Wan apologizing to Anakin had me in tears ... that was big... owning up to his own mistakes, even though Anakin brought so much of it on himself. And Anakin almost ... absolving Obi Wan? That was so unexpected. It sounded like a cry for help, and at the same time he was boasting that he killed his own self to become Vader.
@lordvader_0668
@lordvader_0668 Жыл бұрын
Well also palatine even said “ perhaps your feelings for your old master has left you weakened “ so obviously he felt something for obi wan in this moment.
@nagaanish715
@nagaanish715 Жыл бұрын
Maybe admitting he f,d up n deservedly relishes the pain n qnguish.
@kongspeaks4778
@kongspeaks4778 Жыл бұрын
I think Vader says that he killed Anakin because he feels too angry and insecure to accept that Obi-Wan has hurt him.
@armincartoonist
@armincartoonist Жыл бұрын
@@kongspeaks4778 That's also very valid.... or even too insecure or angry to accept what Anakin could have been .. it's too late to turn back now, so he may as well commit to everything terrible he's already done
@TheLonelyGoomba
@TheLonelyGoomba Жыл бұрын
I think there's more to the Qui-Gon scene. Although maybe I'm overthinking it. But it ties into something Dave Filoni said in regards to Episode 1. Qui-Gon wasn't like the current Jedi, he embraced love and relationships in regards to being a Jedi, not isolation. He was to be a father figure to Anakin, not a brother as Obi-Wan was. Anakin's turn to the dark side was the failure of the Jedi. The forbidden relationship with Padme, the isolation from his family which led to the death of his mother. Unnecessary rules which serve no benefit which only caused more conflict and resentment. The methods of the Jedi during that period were incompatible with the core values of the Jedi and Qui-Gon knew this. This is why he was never on the council and rejected it. So when Obiwan is buried under the rocks, what gives him strength? The bonds he has formed with others and his relationship with them. That is the true power of the light side of the force and it's something the Jedi have neglected. When Obi-Wan realizes this, it is a revelation and he is now on the same level of understanding as Qui-Gon, that is why he is "ready to see him" now. If you think about every victory in the Star Wars series it is the attachments with others which serves as the driving force. Vader was ultimately saved by the very thing the Jedi Code forbids. This even follows into the sequels (oh no). Luke ultimately tries to recreate the old methods of training with his Jedi Temple, and yet again ends in destruction. Even Yoda knows the Jedi got it wrong in destroying the Jedi texts. The force is not bureaucratic. Ultimately I'd like to the think the end game would be a new Jedi order that uses attachment as a strength to unlock the true potential of the Jedi. Anyway, just some thoughts. Carry on.
@guitarist4life00
@guitarist4life00 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this interpretation. Thank you for sharing
@brandedclay
@brandedclay Жыл бұрын
beautifully well said
@Kayem-bq4hq
@Kayem-bq4hq Жыл бұрын
And here I was disappointed that Qui Gons appearance was wasted. Thanks for the context.
@badhab1054
@badhab1054 Жыл бұрын
amazingly said brother
@bloodmime
@bloodmime Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this, it was a good read.
@tux75
@tux75 Жыл бұрын
The mix of Hayden/James voices are so well done. Vader's voice changing back and forth is badass and heartbreaking at the same time
@ErwalDeeas
@ErwalDeeas Жыл бұрын
You still have the best avatar picture and it gets me every time! HA!
@LandonCahow
@LandonCahow Жыл бұрын
Agreed 100% - that was so powerful to have the sounds of both alternating, representing Vader's/Anakin's inner conflict in that moment
@AshleyLewisGrey
@AshleyLewisGrey Жыл бұрын
It was haunting
@Thrxz1g
@Thrxz1g Жыл бұрын
Obi-wan “He is more machine now than man , twisted & evil”
@reasondro
@reasondro Жыл бұрын
@@ErwalDeeas same
@Kadian66
@Kadian66 Жыл бұрын
The final episode was beautiful. The duel between Obi-Wan and Vader and the conversation later brought me to tears. The change of light on Anakin/Vader’s face, being able to hear Anakin again was just superb. I felt that the threads were closed nicely at the end of the episode linking it with the story ahead. Obi-wan grew out of the guilt and sorrow we saw him in the beginning of the series and he was back to his old self before Mustafar. Cherry on top, Qui-Gon Jin as the force ghost, finally. It was just great to see these characters and actors on screen again.
@KingNeri12
@KingNeri12 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered how Vader got that huge cut scar or dent on his head visible when he took his helmet off to see Luke. I am impressed how they implemented it in the fight scene between Vader and Kenobi.
@grayb8747
@grayb8747 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t even realize this!! Good eye
@lupussolitarus536
@lupussolitarus536 Жыл бұрын
The thing is this happened in rebels, ahsoka has this very scene with vader, Lucasfilm literally stole from themselves lol.
@dugroz
@dugroz Жыл бұрын
In this episode of Kenobi, there is no apparent wounding of that area as far as I can tell. Looks like all helmet -- ???
@gilesm5716
@gilesm5716 Жыл бұрын
That scar was in the behind the scenes pictures of Revenge of the Sith. Theory actually did a video on it, but it was not given to Vader here, maybe reopened it, or expanded it making it worse, but it has been there since ep3.
@thunderboom3362
@thunderboom3362 Жыл бұрын
@@gilesm5716 It wasn’t shown in the actual film in episode 3 so perhaps they used this episode of Obi wan to tie in the origin of the scar ?
@chenault15
@chenault15 Жыл бұрын
I love how Hayden still has that rage filled tone in his voice like he did in ROTS. To me the circle is truly complete now that Hayden has been seen without the helmet it really brings to life the torment, hatred, pain, and sadness of Anakin and how much of a monster Vader really is underneath the helmet
@cooly1224
@cooly1224 Жыл бұрын
100% agree, Hayden’s acting was brilliant in that scene along with Ewan’s. Perfection
@PriestlyBlock67
@PriestlyBlock67 Жыл бұрын
It finally makes hayden and darth vader look like the same person The gap between hayden and the originals with james earl jones' voice was ridiculous and made it really hard to accept them as canon to each other Now with this, its fixed
@sartajkeith9961
@sartajkeith9961 Жыл бұрын
The last battle scene between Vader and kenobi was the only good battle scene in all these live action star war shows
@mrdr1ggy
@mrdr1ggy Жыл бұрын
why you refer to Episode III as ROTS.. next time..just write III. everbody knows it's called (R)evenge (O)f (T)he (S)ith - but writing it as ROTS..gahdamn man have some self respect
@cooly1224
@cooly1224 Жыл бұрын
@@mrdr1ggy cringe
@brayden9908
@brayden9908 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Obi-Wan saying “one of us must die” actually makes sense because later on he says “then my friend is truly dead”, because in that moment Anakin is dead to Obi-Wan, hence why he calls him “Darth” as he leaves. So neither of them actually die, but symbolically one does.
@cooly1224
@cooly1224 Жыл бұрын
Great thought bro
@troyboi7662
@troyboi7662 Жыл бұрын
I also love that that ties into a new hope. Ben/obiwan calls Darth Vader “Darth” multiple times.
@eckce
@eckce Жыл бұрын
I like that thought! I took it as a nod to when Luke says "Then my father is truly dead" in EP 6 before Vader takes him to the Emperor
@cozarooni1834
@cozarooni1834 Жыл бұрын
Symbolically I would say Obi Wan is fully reborn into Ben when he escapes from all those rocks as well
@samcoder6900
@samcoder6900 Жыл бұрын
On first viewing I had trouble with Obi-wan showing more mercy for a full blown Sith than for his padawan that he lets burn alive on Mustafar and (presumably) die. Why would he let Vader go and carry on with his murderous projects ? He is after all the Empire's top asset and much suffering could be avoided by ending him right there. Kenobi was a pretty ruthless general during the Clone wars, and didn't have trouble killing Grievous and Darth Maul before that. But on second viewing I have to acknowledge that it makes sense in the narrative arc of this show, with Obi-wan at first crushed by negative emotions such as guilt, fear, remorse, etc and while under the rocks thrown by Vader, his mind switches to focus on Leia and Luke and that brings him back to Light. And then of course the flashback duel in the previous episode is precisely centered on the concept of mercy, with Obi-wan lecturing Anakin, so his behavior is aligned with what he preached then. And the theme of mercy comes once more when discussing with Reva, saying to her that it was not a weakness to have spared Luke, quite the contrary and that they were now both free (of their negative emotions I guess). So I'm sort of 90% convinced that it kinda makes sense to spare Darth Vader for him at this point in their story at least...
@PadinnPlays
@PadinnPlays Жыл бұрын
My favorite little piece is the "Goodbye, Darth." It is the first time he acknowledges Anakin is gone - and comes off as a bit of a sly insult. It also ties in nicely with how he refers to Vader in a new hope (only a master of evil darth). I don't think he ever uses his sith name directly to Vaders face.
@FeNite8
@FeNite8 Жыл бұрын
Only a master of evil Darth
@ututut77
@ututut77 Жыл бұрын
it didn’t feel like an insult to me but i loved that he called him that here to tie it in to A New Hope!
@jackharper6540
@jackharper6540 Жыл бұрын
It was a nice touch, but he should not have just left Darth Vader to live and continue terrorizing the universe. What was he thinking!?
@FrostedSeagull
@FrostedSeagull Жыл бұрын
@Jack Harper This is very poignant. If he kills. 'Darth' , he becomes a murderer. Obi-Wan has just rediscovered his Jedi abilities. To murder Darth,, would throw out Obi-Wan's ,'development'..
@Explorerer1990
@Explorerer1990 Жыл бұрын
You missed an important detail; after Obi-Wan called him «Darth» when he left, it suddenly makes sense why Obi-Wan calls him «Darth» and not «Anakin» in A New Hope. I have always found it stupid that he called him «Darth», and Obi-Wan would never do that. Until now.
@medalgear654
@medalgear654 Жыл бұрын
The whole Darth thing never bothered me... but the fact that Kenobi had the chance to kill Vader but just didn't is ridiculous, especially when he tries to gaslight Luke into killing him years later.
@astroamp1686
@astroamp1686 Жыл бұрын
@@medalgear654 I think people are really missing something with the meaning behind Obi sparing Vader/Anakin. If you analyse it you will know the meaning and purpose of it.
@strappymasksalesman2819
@strappymasksalesman2819 Жыл бұрын
ive always believed obi wan was calling vader by his title, darth. like how someones title can be sir (name), calling someone “sir” still denotes the title
@traviousandrews1015
@traviousandrews1015 Жыл бұрын
@@strappymasksalesman2819 yea ina mocking way!
@medalgear654
@medalgear654 Жыл бұрын
@@astroamp1686 then explain the meaning behind Obi-Wan leaving the most dangerous man alive to wreak more havoc across the universe and then lying to Luke and then forcing him to kill Vader when he had the perfect opportunity to do so?
@cerberus1994
@cerberus1994 Жыл бұрын
Also Ewan knocked it out of the park with his performance, like when he sees "Anakin" after he cuts thro the mask and gets emotional was soooo good. Can really see and feel his pain and hurt, loved it 10/10
@benmiz9742
@benmiz9742 Жыл бұрын
He was a complete bad ass in this episode, especially when he went ham and smashed up vaders control panel with his saber hilt. This dual was way better than the episode 3 show down for me. He bettered skywalker/Vader again. The ultimate kick in the ballz for Vader is that when he does in fact win, (on the Death Star) it’s an actual gimme, Obiwan let’s him win. I love the way he psychological mind fucks him. The wry little smile he gives before allowing Vader to strike him down. He knows he’s got the better of him again.
@jonathanhandsome6985
@jonathanhandsome6985 Жыл бұрын
I NEED YOU
@MollyHuffle
@MollyHuffle Жыл бұрын
Really parallels Ashoka when she was fighting Vader too. She said his name as well when she cut off part of his mask.
@kingwein89
@kingwein89 Жыл бұрын
I have completely given up trying to explain logic, reason and common sense to people who give this show a 10/10. It's like good writing and directing is no longer something recognizable. I truly sometimes forget how "basic" Star Wars fans can be. They'd rather have the facts/story/details right over a cogent story even though this episode was full of wtf why moments. Go back to making movies Disney these shows are garbage
@cerberus1994
@cerberus1994 Жыл бұрын
@@kingwein89 you just don’t understand the Star Wars story and fine not a 10/10 literally but it met all my needs and expectations that I was wanting to see from a Star Wars show especially episode 10. Not the show as a whole.
@purpleskies1709
@purpleskies1709 Жыл бұрын
Vader’s yelling at the end indicates that he’s almost obsessed or clinging to some unhealthy notion of Obiwan. Like a great mixture of anguish, anger, hate, and longing. Almost like a desperation for help but the confusion to ask for it. The humanity that they give him and the split mask is some of the most meaningful portrayal I’ve seen Vader in. Finally bridged the connection for me as I’d always seen too much of a separation before
@lukejohnson2316
@lukejohnson2316 Жыл бұрын
Like Obi Wan told Anakin in the flashback, his need to prove himself will be his undoing. Vader/Anakin's obsession to best Kenobi ruined him again.
@reginald6451
@reginald6451 Жыл бұрын
I personally believe it was anakin screaming obi wan to put his out of his mystery for a brief few seconds
@Karl_Drogo55
@Karl_Drogo55 Жыл бұрын
"I am what remains." breaks me every time I rewatch this episode...the perfect combination of Hayden's voice mixed with Vaders just perfect...You can hear the emotion in Anakin's half followed with the ruthless Vader tone ugh..
@VoltranceFM
@VoltranceFM Жыл бұрын
Can we just take a moment to appreciate firstly how well casted Vivien is for the role of Leia, and secondly appreciate how well she acted. Roles of young kids are so hard to do right and for me not to be annoyed with, but I enjoyed her as Leia very much!
@solvemproblerstudios5889
@solvemproblerstudios5889 Жыл бұрын
She totally nailed the sass- almost felt like she was talking with Solo or Tarkin whenever she’d back talk Obi Wan or Imperials.
@trevstation
@trevstation Жыл бұрын
Really? I know she’s just a kid but it was not believable at all.
@Raveyboi
@Raveyboi Жыл бұрын
@@trevstation it was amazing dude.
@daniel_9500
@daniel_9500 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree! I think her and Ewan scenes together were the best part of the show (minus the chase)! I enjoyed it but for some reason the rest of the series just feels a bit off, i dont know why. Maybe it’s purely because it’s not Lucas’ Star Wars anymore
@dus10Bish0p
@dus10Bish0p Жыл бұрын
You can't be serious.
@KillerInstinctsCOD
@KillerInstinctsCOD Жыл бұрын
Anyone feel like the “I’m not your failure Obi Wan… you didn’t kill Anakin Skywalker… I did” gave Obi enough closure and ability to let go of his “hurt” to see Qui Gon? Looking back, it’s almost like Anakins last gift to Obi Wan.
@Hard_Boiled_Entertainment
@Hard_Boiled_Entertainment Жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY! It's pretty much a foreshadowing of Vader's personal conservation with Luke in Return Of The Jedi: He respects Obi Wan's intent, and actually gives him a bit of reassurance.
@ste308
@ste308 Жыл бұрын
This Is a good take on it
@anotherbeardedcomicdude2542
@anotherbeardedcomicdude2542 Жыл бұрын
It made me think of how Ben tells Luke that Vader killed his father. Almost like Anakin knew, and wanted Obi Wan to tell his children his father was killed by a monster and not became the monster
@SuperToemoe
@SuperToemoe Жыл бұрын
@@anotherbeardedcomicdude2542 yes and in that instance it’s anakin talking you can’t see his sith eyes but when he said I killed him you see Vader just showing that obi wan didn’t turn anakin to this it was the dark side
@superjawa3305
@superjawa3305 Жыл бұрын
I stopped crying and you made me cry again
@user-wv5gv3dw5u
@user-wv5gv3dw5u Жыл бұрын
Hearing Vader and Anakin's voice distort and breakup together, weaving in and out of eachother.... That was tragically beautiful
@Flashbang250
@Flashbang250 Жыл бұрын
This. Loved that touch so much.
@trayvonandrews6278
@trayvonandrews6278 Жыл бұрын
Garbage fan service. Just like No Way Home. It’s a copy paste orgy in this show
@TheArrowedKnee
@TheArrowedKnee Жыл бұрын
It was such a good paralel to Twilight of the Apprentice. Instantly got that vibe when Obi-Wan started beating Vader. You know the saying. "It's like poetry, it rhymes"
@BrezzyBoi33
@BrezzyBoi33 Жыл бұрын
@@TheArrowedKnee it’s not a parallel or poetry if it’s copy and paste
@grogu1986
@grogu1986 Жыл бұрын
@@BrezzyBoi33 how’s it copy and paste? The emotions/circumstances/conversations between Vader/Kenobi and Vader/Ahsoka are literally completely different apart from the ‘then you will die’ line. Plus, Star Wars has always been about callbacks to other great scenes.
@mikebaugh
@mikebaugh Жыл бұрын
I will admit I was initially hesitant with the “you can’t tell anyone” as resolving the issue of canon, but the more I sit with it, the more it works for me. They established a great connection between Obi-Wan and Luke in the OT but this story gave us the idea that Leia was important too. “There is another”, as Yoda said. And while it isn’t maybe the best or most logical way to interpret the events of A New Hope, the “you can’t tell anyone or it will endanger us both” shows they at least cared to make this fit in with canon, and they chose to make this fun story instead of taking the logical approach and giving the audience verbatim what they think they will get at the expense of probably a less fun 6 episodes.
@liamphibia
@liamphibia Жыл бұрын
I agree
@garrettviewegh677
@garrettviewegh677 Жыл бұрын
The part of that scene where Obi-Wan tells Leia of the traits she inherited from her parents really sticks out. Obi-Wan was talking about Anakin and Padme, of course Leia thought he meant Bail and his wife. Sadly, her and Luke never got to know they’re real parents. If they did later on, it’s only all the more tragic.
@jarrid1220
@jarrid1220 Жыл бұрын
The final scene between Obi Wan and Vader brought me to tears. I felt like i could feel every bit of Anakin’s and Obi Wan’s pain. Such a great scene
@trenchslayer1014
@trenchslayer1014 Жыл бұрын
Seeing Vaders face through the mask for the first time in live action and hearing his voice under the mask say "You didn't kill Anakin, I did" honestly gave me true fear chills down my spine and conveyd such strong emotion. It was a great ending.
@VoiceOfTheEmperor
@VoiceOfTheEmperor Жыл бұрын
He kinda reminds me of Adolf Hitler in Downfall. He's beaten and he knows it. All he has left are words and bluster.
@johnnywesley7695
@johnnywesley7695 Жыл бұрын
I have no idea what show you were watching. The fact that Reva got stabbed by a lightsaber not once, but twice, and still survived was just so pathetic. And she miraculously just showed up on Tatooine magically! What a lame and pathetic show with no real character development. You guys are just the lowest denominator consumers that Disney wanted.
@leadfarmer4058
@leadfarmer4058 Жыл бұрын
That "I will do what I must" sent chills through my whole body, that fight was in my imagination for years and it finally happened, thank you Hayden and Ewan
@CamoSquid
@CamoSquid Жыл бұрын
Same, I loved it. "He said the thing" was my reaction lol
@tomasbedoya2901
@tomasbedoya2901 Жыл бұрын
And then he proceeds to don't do what he musts
@foellerd
@foellerd Жыл бұрын
Lol, apparently all he must do is set him free again, because that went well the first time. Now he can head back out and kill innocents, growing the empire. Nice.
@lukesmale24
@lukesmale24 Жыл бұрын
@@tomasbedoya2901 Remember in the last episode when Obi-Wan was teaching Anakin about mercy?
@tomasbedoya2901
@tomasbedoya2901 Жыл бұрын
@@lukesmale24 Remember in ROTS how Obi Wan left Anakin to die burning in a pit of lava? Remember in ROTJ when Obi Wan tries to persuade Luke to kill his father because there's no other way? Remember that? Bullshit is what I say, there's no reason for Obi Wan not to end him then and there
@SonikPanther
@SonikPanther Жыл бұрын
I love how the only way obi-wan can cope with the situation is to teach himself to believe that Anakin and Vader were 2 different people. I love how Obiwan doesn’t avoid blame in A New Hope when he said Vader was also a pupil of his like Anakin; Only that Vader turned to evil, and betrayed and killed Anakin. The sheer discrepancy between both Characters forces obi-wan to rationalize it as two individuals. His trauma and baggage are preventing him from being in a state where he isn’t constantly confronting the reality of the situation. So he constructs his own head canon essentially to help mitigate his pain. It bleeds into his training with Luke, and he justifies keeping the truth from him, as a simple difference in perspective; which with the new context of Kenobi, was a psychological state he carefully constructed to keep his mind clear of pain to be a more effective protector. Brilliant.
@frishdaw
@frishdaw Жыл бұрын
Feel exactly the same way seeing Qui Gon, the prequel callbacks and references made me feel like a kid again. I think it’s important you mentioned adapting during these new Star Wars projects. Even if there are things we dislike, finding the enjoyment and the scenes that connect with us can still be meaningful.
@noahcook3771
@noahcook3771 Жыл бұрын
"Only a master of evil, Darth." This line has forever changed for me from kinda corny to intense pain. Loved this show
@roadhouse6999
@roadhouse6999 Жыл бұрын
"Only master of getting caught, Darth."
@noahcook3771
@noahcook3771 Жыл бұрын
Master of catching these hands lol
@santiagosolorzano4314
@santiagosolorzano4314 Жыл бұрын
@@noahcook3771 💀💀💀
@AviPFine
@AviPFine Жыл бұрын
Goodbye, Darth
@james.e.hamill
@james.e.hamill Жыл бұрын
I think “Goodbye…Darth” is my favorite part of this show. It gives all the context we need why Obi-Wan called Vader “Darth” on the Death Star. I never thought of it as corny, but I was always uncomfortable with the inconsistency because of how the saga progressed, so I was thankful for this tied up loose end. While I agree that “intense pain” is a big part of it, I also think pity is involved. To call him “Darth” instead of “Vader” is a sort of passive aggressive way of not taking him seriously, as if to say “Think of what you could have been, yet you’ve chosen to be this.”
@playinsanity5133
@playinsanity5133 Жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan's "Then my friend is truly dead" is a parallel to Luke's quote in ROTJ: "Then my father is truly dead." With that retcon, we can say that Vader remembered what Obi-Wan said and that's why he was so affected by Luke's words in that beautiful ROTJ scene.
@randomstarwarsfan6404
@randomstarwarsfan6404 Жыл бұрын
Man, this series added SO MUCH to the OT. I'm going to watch it all over again! Wow! I can't believe Disney actually made this and I can't understand why people are hating on this show. As a matter of fact, I do believe this series will grow on people.
@vdtzv4178
@vdtzv4178 Жыл бұрын
It’s a masterclass
@benrawson007
@benrawson007 Жыл бұрын
@@vdtzv4178 Erm, Ep5 and 6 were, the rest were not. They nailed Ep6 in my opinion but lets not say the series is a masterclass.
@mdandrews
@mdandrews Жыл бұрын
@@benrawson007 yeah 1-4 were bad bad
@onlyguitar6521
@onlyguitar6521 Жыл бұрын
@@benrawson007 that’s how tv series work. First episodes build up the characters and tend to be less interesting, then the climax comes to the last 1-2 episodes. The whole clone wars was like that and really any tv show works the same.
@Ace_of_Horns
@Ace_of_Horns Жыл бұрын
Obiwan used Qui-Gons stance against Maul to goad him into using the same attack he killed Qui-Gon with. Maul fell for it which is how Obiwan was able to dispatch him so quickly.
@zoeyaldred7206
@zoeyaldred7206 Жыл бұрын
Obi wan could only destroy the left side of vaders mask Ahsoka could only destroy the right side Luke destroyed vaders entier mask when he took it off I love this
@jflo158
@jflo158 Жыл бұрын
Vader’s voice changing back and forth to Anakin and Vader gave me chills. Leia saying “will I ever see you again?” Just like Anakin to his mom brought me to tears. Best finally in a long time
@TheArrowedKnee
@TheArrowedKnee Жыл бұрын
I got really strong "Twilight of the Apprentice" vibes from that whole scene, i would be very, very surprised if they had not taken heavy inspiration from it. But it was incredibly well done and got to me for sure
@kyjack3721
@kyjack3721 Жыл бұрын
I really love how this episode depicted the relationship between master and apprentice. Thinking you have came so far and learned so much and then your master shows up and says much training you still need. Really shows the depth of the possibilities of the force.
@nathanverdin89
@nathanverdin89 Жыл бұрын
One thing I noticed too is that sometimes Vader would put both hands on his saber instead of using his typical one hand. It’s as if he needed a better grip knowing that Kenobi had gotten stronger.
@Merlchar
@Merlchar Жыл бұрын
Things I really liked about this episode: -Ewan & Hayden, they were so great -Anakin/Vader's voice blending--this shows the voice Hayden developed to sync up with James Earl Jones' performance -Owen & Beru got a chance to shine, we see their genuine love & guardianship for Luke -Qui-Gon Jin, of course -Palpatine the Great, calling out Vader's weakness like a true master, pushing him to move beyond Kenobi -Cry Theory returns--seriously man, don't ever change. :)
@TheArrowedKnee
@TheArrowedKnee Жыл бұрын
All of those for sure, but honorable mention to the scene where Obi-Wan described Leia's parents without saying their names, with her theme and the Force theme running in the background. That scene really got me. Oh and Leia saying "Will i ever see you again?", basically *identically* to Jake Lloyds Anakin.
@marklastes312
@marklastes312 Жыл бұрын
YES THE VOICE BLEND. That gave me chills. This was such a legendary performance by these men. James Earl Jones must be kept alive at all costs.
@jbsargent1396
@jbsargent1396 Жыл бұрын
Your so right! Don’t ever change theory! We love you!
@raverally
@raverally Жыл бұрын
i like reva..
@benmiz9742
@benmiz9742 Жыл бұрын
Well if we put him in carbonite and just thaw him out for Vader voice overs we can probably hold on to him for some time. That said he’s an elderly gentleman now at 91 years of age, he may not survive the freezing process??
@MTGnEWbie420
@MTGnEWbie420 Жыл бұрын
The voice shifting between Vader and Anakin was an absolute GIFT for me. Also Vader lost cause he had some feelings in his way, and Obi spared cause of the deep feelings and friendship he had
@StudentTrader
@StudentTrader Жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@MTGnEWbie420
@MTGnEWbie420 Жыл бұрын
@@StudentTrader basically they spared each other’s by their feelings
@alannerrato3278
@alannerrato3278 Жыл бұрын
Did he lose though? He was still standing and Obi Wan decided to just walk away. Did he spare him because of that? He did say his friend is truly dead and called him Darth. Idk
@affoidman123
@affoidman123 Жыл бұрын
Lmao you’ve posted this same comment on multiple videos
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@jubermiah4761
@jubermiah4761 Жыл бұрын
Season Finale- It was mind blowing, I loved the way Obi-Wan reconnected with the force over powered Vader by miles and the strong sorrowful, emotional and tearful acting that was shown by Ewan McGregor was totally immense.
@Centurion-ph7gk
@Centurion-ph7gk Жыл бұрын
Bullshit writing
@BET2381
@BET2381 Жыл бұрын
I would argue that it was kenobis grown attachment and love and hope for the children is what gave kenobi the greater strength. One will notice that a anakin was always more powerful while striving to protect those he loves. This supports the idea that love and emotion are correct vs the pure Jedi way. I like the thought that obi-wan is evolving into a more powerful person by embracing what anakin did right.
@zb14847
@zb14847 Жыл бұрын
i totally agree with this!
@mrspacechicken123
@mrspacechicken123 Жыл бұрын
I think Obi Wan's line "Then my friend is truly dead" adds some more emotional weight to when Luke tells Vader "Then my Father is truly dead" in ROTJ - perhaps this sparks a memory for Vader at that moment which may have made him dwell on his long lost friendship with Obi Wan and hence the man he was before he became Darth Vader, there may have also been an element of regret to having killed his former master and 'brother'. I would like to think that this all aided in his transition to the light side.
@toocanny
@toocanny Жыл бұрын
I like this.
@Doginthesleep
@Doginthesleep Жыл бұрын
I second this motion.
@grandpa_stanley7813
@grandpa_stanley7813 Жыл бұрын
Fax no printer 🔥🙏
@cooly1224
@cooly1224 Жыл бұрын
Great input bro
@dpgamezderek8137
@dpgamezderek8137 Жыл бұрын
I feel like "Then my brother is truly dead" would have fit better but "friend" works fine.
@rich2rich3
@rich2rich3 Жыл бұрын
Bro, Hayden’s smile he did when he said, “I did,” was actually so creepy. I love that he actually made it seem like Vader was a different person from Anakin. It was like he was possessed or something.
@RedeemedChef
@RedeemedChef Жыл бұрын
The way Vader was looking upward with his eyes is the same way Anakin looked up at Palpating when he was knighted Darth Vader,looking up, being seduced by the dark side.
@comicbooknerd3570
@comicbooknerd3570 Жыл бұрын
Fr dude, the smile creeped me out bro 😳
@lenoigel2626
@lenoigel2626 Жыл бұрын
for a moment i thought palpatine was talking through him. well, he kinda was...
@LetsGetitBoah
@LetsGetitBoah Жыл бұрын
That's what the Dark Side does to you. It changes you, almost completely. It's similar to how it changed Ben Solo into Kylo Ren, and vice versa. Notice how different Ben Solo was compared to Kylo Ren. His mannerisms, his humor, he even looked healthier when he reverted back to Ben, and he fought with a style very similar to Anakins. Instead of the brute force style of Kylo Ren which was also like Vaders.
@SlobDooku
@SlobDooku Жыл бұрын
He wasn’t necessarily smiling, it’s just looked like that with the cut mask
@xaviercatford3600
@xaviercatford3600 Жыл бұрын
I loved the hello there reference, and think it ties in perfectly with in the previous episode when kenobi said hello to the driver when getting picked up, and now he has returned to his former self so his old ways have returned
@JDMRightHandDrive
@JDMRightHandDrive Жыл бұрын
I loved this episode and I felt very emotional watching it. I cant wait to see what comes next! Great video, thanks so much.
@garethhudson3142
@garethhudson3142 Жыл бұрын
The bit that broke me was when Owen turned to Kenobi and said "do you want to meet him?" 10 years he waited to meet the boy he has pretty much given his life up to watch over. Equally emotional Leia calling him Obi Wan driving home the fact that she will probably never see him again. I think it also give weight to just how ecstatic she when she finds out he is on the death star during the rescue mission in ANH
@stevencolon1723
@stevencolon1723 Жыл бұрын
I chokes up a little bit too. Owen was very, very well portrayed. Honestly one of my favorite characters in the show. He's such a badass mofo in this.
@primemachine146
@primemachine146 Жыл бұрын
I tried to find the part where she’s ecstatic, she doesn’t really show any emotion to him dying or being there
@mayalackman7581
@mayalackman7581 Жыл бұрын
yes she does. it's when Luke says he is here with Ben Kenobi and Leia practically shouts "Ben Kenobi!!! Where is he???"
@ChiefCrewin
@ChiefCrewin Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, he definitely gave up his life to guarding him. That's why he cut himself off from the force and then jumped at the opportunity to go save leia who is obviously more important than Luke, instead of letting Baile and his fucking planet sized resouces to find his "daughter"
@nutrientocean
@nutrientocean Жыл бұрын
​@@ChiefCrewin and then left Luke again to go train lol
@chrisstuart3
@chrisstuart3 Жыл бұрын
When I saw Obi-Wan cut off the mask, I said to myself, “This is the sound design opportunity of a lifetime. Please get it right!” And they killed it. Despite any qualms I have with the show, the way they mixed Hayden Christian and James Earl Jones’s voices together was absolutely menacing. I will definitely be rewatching for that moment alone.
@stephenderry9488
@stephenderry9488 Жыл бұрын
It would have been more impressive if Rebels hadn't done it first (albeit with animation and Matt Lanter's voice). For me it was more like a powerful callback, and completion of a circle - first time (later in the timeline) he faced his former apprentice, second time (earlier in the timeline) he faced his former master.
@trayvonandrews6278
@trayvonandrews6278 Жыл бұрын
Not exactly. They are copy pasting everything from other shows for lifeless fan service. And you bots are eating it up
@TheBrickGuy7939
@TheBrickGuy7939 Жыл бұрын
That was probably my favourite part of the episode.
@wholesome39
@wholesome39 Жыл бұрын
@@trayvonandrews6278 I mean rebels did do the half mask first but like it’s common sense lol of course there gonna show him half mask half face no one was surprised by it
@charles-davidberube1174
@charles-davidberube1174 Жыл бұрын
@@trayvonandrews6278 lifeless fan? What? You’re a « better » fan?😂 picking some scenes from other moments in the star wars universe was sick! If you disliked it, i’m sorry for you. You must be a very negative person.
@airborneinfantry23
@airborneinfantry23 Жыл бұрын
You hit it on the head. The emotions and nostalgia that I got remembering all of the prequels through this series was powerful!
@Garage-uj7pv
@Garage-uj7pv Жыл бұрын
The half Vader/Anakin reveal was perfect, pretty much all I wanted from the series and the voice transition with saber glare so well done. I'd kind of wanted a de-helmeted Vader fighting Obi Wan but this was far more canon-consistent I think.
@MrPantera123456
@MrPantera123456 Жыл бұрын
Parts of that brought me to tears. I know the series wasn’t perfect but I loved it. 10 years ago we thought we’d never see the actors do these characters again. This is a blessing.
@chadblakley930
@chadblakley930 Жыл бұрын
I agree, exactly how I feel. I loved it
@azadog1233
@azadog1233 Жыл бұрын
can we all must appreciate this positivity instead of embracing the toxicity and ciritcism
@badnoodlez
@badnoodlez Жыл бұрын
@@larrythecableman6963 sure you're not just looking in the mirror?
@Lobsterwithinternet
@Lobsterwithinternet Жыл бұрын
@@badnoodlez Not if you have multiple people all seeing the same thing. And that is a deeply flawed show that has some admittedly cool scenes but it's not enough to cover up the plot holes it creates or the contrivances that are needed to keep the show going. But if all you're looking for is a dumb action show to turn your brain off to, it serves it's purpose.
@yomanzdevz5365
@yomanzdevz5365 Жыл бұрын
@@Lobsterwithinternet it’s always super nerdy Star Wars fans lol nobody cares bro
@michulesrusticus3022
@michulesrusticus3022 Жыл бұрын
I did really like the symmetry in the dialoge between Kenobi and Vader. Like "Then you will die" vs "you will try" in Episode III and also the line "Then my friend is truly dead" vs "Then my father is truly dead" as Luke said in Episode VI. It did feel a bit like George Lukas said: It rhymes.
@WildWeavile
@WildWeavile Жыл бұрын
It's more so symmetry with what he said to Ahsoka in rebels.
@rockdlr1330
@rockdlr1330 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful breakdown! you hit the spots to put tears on my eyes again..
@leto1k
@leto1k Жыл бұрын
Love how they kept switching between Hayden's voice and James Earl Jones’ voice
@randywilliams6248
@randywilliams6248 Жыл бұрын
"I killed him" makes the conversation between Luke and Obiwan (Return of Jedi) make more sense. Luke: "you told me Vader killed my father" Obiwan: "what I told you was true, from a certain point of view".
@calebp6114
@calebp6114 Жыл бұрын
Great observation!
@Manudefender
@Manudefender Жыл бұрын
This is when he’s on Yavin right the Ewok planet?
@HoHhoch
@HoHhoch Жыл бұрын
@@Manudefender No. On Dagobaah before Luke leaves to join the Rebellion before the Battle of Endor.
@robertmorris7438
@robertmorris7438 Жыл бұрын
@@Manudefender no yavin is the wampa planet you’re thinking of. The things jabba keeps in the dungeon.
@robertmorris7438
@robertmorris7438 Жыл бұрын
Same aha moment I had back in ‘83
@herbertovega4338
@herbertovega4338 Жыл бұрын
The way that Ewan perfectly portrays the pain and hurt seeing Anakin under the helmet was immaculate acting, not to mention Haydens amazing performance of pain and anger in just his voice and facial expressions. Absolutely amazing scene that I never thought I would see 💯❤️.
@Irisishunter
@Irisishunter Жыл бұрын
Both actors performances were superb and for me the best thing about the show. Things like Vader being unable to sense Obi Wan was alive and well a few feet away, turning away with a job done mentality took me out of the show abit I might of blurted out BS while watching that. Would of liked a little more Obi Wan in my Obi Wan show.
@kateb5716
@kateb5716 Жыл бұрын
I feel that Anakin, in very childish Anakin style, tried to bury Kenobi as if burying his problems. In his mind Kenobi is his last attachment to the light side. The conflict on his face was just showing that Anakin was still in there somewhere. The light from the sabers and his voice modular switching in between was done very well to reflect this. I think him screaming for obiwan again is heartbreaking - I think it was all Anakin and not Vader. Anakin screaming for help again. Knowing the lengths he’d take for his loved ones (literally still trying to resurrect padme as we speak) and not getting that in return must be his undoing. In a very un-Vader or un-dark sided way, Anakin absolved Kenobi of his guilt too, which was very kind I think in a weird way, but also cemented him as too far gone to gloat something like that.
@betterthansex123
@betterthansex123 Жыл бұрын
I will hand it to you. You were bang on with some of the things you predicted about the show in previous videos. Impressive. Most impressive.
@TheNativeOne94
@TheNativeOne94 Жыл бұрын
I love how when he says "I'm not your failure, Obi-Wan. You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker- I did.", the light shines blue onto his face, signifying Anakin's lightside breaking through to give Obi-Wan closure. Then the light's reflection turns red as 'Vader' regains control and says "The same way I will destroy you!"
@benjaminradin1763
@benjaminradin1763 Жыл бұрын
It was also chilling how his emotions went from indignation, shame, pride, and then anger.
@Nextilia
@Nextilia Жыл бұрын
you gay Hayden kill it whit bad acticg
@DylanSpringsteen44
@DylanSpringsteen44 Жыл бұрын
It was very profound that Anakin chose to release Obi Wan from his guilt.
@timellison2952
@timellison2952 Жыл бұрын
It was very cool how vaders voice mixed with anakin's.
@reyasyaN
@reyasyaN Жыл бұрын
Was that Anakin's intent though? Or was he trying to claim credit away from Obi-Wan?
@kirilkenobi5691
@kirilkenobi5691 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful and awesome Tv hope season 2 have )) May the force be with you always 🙏
@danlandeck6974
@danlandeck6974 Жыл бұрын
fantastic series breakdown. left me in tears. metal!!! thank you.
@Steel-101
@Steel-101 Жыл бұрын
Dude hearing Vader talk with his battle damaged helmet really creeped me out. It sounded like he was struggling to talk. It looked like he was feeling an extreme amount of pain for every word he says without his mask on. Hayden Christensen really did a great job in this scene. Also it was really nice to see Liam Neeson again 😎👍🏼. Thanks for the video breakdown theory!
@robws007
@robws007 Жыл бұрын
Vader with the broken helmet was the best part of this episode... I wish they'd shown a bit more of him recuperating & processing rather than cutting to the scene with Palpatine where he already has a shiny new helmet.
@callmetz7967
@callmetz7967 Жыл бұрын
my first thought was that he sounded like bane
@Steel-101
@Steel-101 Жыл бұрын
@@callmetz7967 honestly my first thought is that he sounds like me when I have a terrible cold with strep throat. And I gobble down a whole bucket of Texas bluebell ice cream just to cool it down lol 😆
@Steel-101
@Steel-101 Жыл бұрын
@@robws007 that would be cool but it wouldn’t really make sense because every minute he doesn’t have his helmet fully on, can lead to death for him. Especially with the toxic air on that rock planet(well it’s toxic for Vader not Kenobi)
@knite3063
@knite3063 Жыл бұрын
You are right. But Vader after mustifar always struggled to talk. The suit helped analyse his words
@Luv2tickt
@Luv2tickt Жыл бұрын
Seeing Qui-Gon really hit me in the feels as it did you, perhaps for different reasons. I was in my mid 20's when TPM came out. It was also the last time I ever got to see a movie with my father. The parallels of the whole Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan relationship, I could relate to later in life.
@ImperatorBaldo
@ImperatorBaldo Жыл бұрын
This new films and series is all about hitting the FEELINGS , and without offending you but using you as example, this serie was TOTAL SHIT, uncannon as fuck . Just a pointless feelings grabbing for weak people . Dogshit Disney as always
@Eduardo-fe9zx
@Eduardo-fe9zx Жыл бұрын
Beautiful story, i’m happy you enjoyed the finale, star wars forever!
@ImperatorBaldo
@ImperatorBaldo Жыл бұрын
@@Eduardo-fe9zx this doesn't follow Canon. Disney ruined star wars forever
@DavidsSanity
@DavidsSanity Жыл бұрын
So true
@cooly1224
@cooly1224 Жыл бұрын
Happy you got to see Qui Gon again
@virtualtrainstuff990
@virtualtrainstuff990 Жыл бұрын
It was a great show ending. The broken mask and mixed voice was so dark and incredible. Hayden killed it again as Vader. It was so great to see Ewan and Hayden back as well as Liam Neesan and Ian Mcdiarmid. Watching Obiwan meet Luke finally saying the iconic "Hello There" line and giving Luke the T-16 SKYHOPPER toy was great as well. So many tie ins and closures to bring the prequels and Originals together.
@mohammed.badri_
@mohammed.badri_ Жыл бұрын
this episode was a 90’s/2000’s kid’s dream
@ShadowJoeSnow
@ShadowJoeSnow Жыл бұрын
I loved the Alec Guinness transitions how after the fight he calls him “Darth” like he does in a new hope now he knows anakin is consumed and it’s made so many lines of dialogue make more sense from both a new hope and return of the Jedi before some felt a bit jagged with age after the prequels came out but this show has perfectly blended the dialogue with the newer ideas
@eliottreynolds4
@eliottreynolds4 Жыл бұрын
Agreed- I thought the transitions were a nice way to smooth the transitions between films. Also, from an effects-level, they did the same with the merging of the robotic Vader voice with Anakin's voice, which I thought was eerily magnificent. Puts a nice auditory transition for all the "but he says 'Mah-ster' in the original films vs Anakin saying 'master'" people.
@GalakStari
@GalakStari Жыл бұрын
9:59 That makes perfect sense! Maybe the cuts (right for Ahsoka and left for Obi-Wan) were meant to symbolize how the two people closest to Anakin (besides Padme, of course), managed to break through to Anakin, but it wasn’t enough to redeem him. But Luke was able to (metaphorically) break Vader’s mask completely and bring Anakin back to the light.
@4MarksMojo
@4MarksMojo Жыл бұрын
Quite poetic and fitting
@flaviomonteiro1414
@flaviomonteiro1414 Жыл бұрын
Padmé helped remove his helmet through their son... Luke
@-rya1146
@-rya1146 Жыл бұрын
Third times a charm
@rithvikmuthyalapati9754
@rithvikmuthyalapati9754 Жыл бұрын
I just realized that Vader's famous huge scar on the top-left of his head is Obi-Wan slashing his mask
@T.G-HLL
@T.G-HLL Жыл бұрын
I loved the episode! Vader and Obi-wan scenes were so brilliantly put together… 🔥
@Mrhandfriends
@Mrhandfriends Жыл бұрын
I loved this episode. ! For me it had everything - like you said “was it perfect” - no ! But it was epic / emotional and fun !!!
@1991jwp
@1991jwp Жыл бұрын
I'm just going to come out and say it: Ewan McGregor is always a win. He nailed it in this series, and it's obvious from his interviews how much this character means to him. It's been a joy to see him back as Obi-Wan.
@cooly1224
@cooly1224 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, have to say the same about Hayden Christensen as well. Both Hayden & Ewan understand their characters and have so much chemistry together (especially the Finale encounter scene)
@pantoastado1264
@pantoastado1264 Жыл бұрын
Him and Christianson carried it, agreed. Buy I don't know if it was enough to save it from sucking 😢
@JamesV1
@JamesV1 Жыл бұрын
@@pantoastado1264 Star Wars fans are never happy lol
@friendlyneighborhoodcollec5928
@friendlyneighborhoodcollec5928 Жыл бұрын
@@JamesV1 I don’t understand what you mean by this? Are StarWars fans supposed to sit down and accept every pile of shit that Disney releases? Why are there people like you who have the mindset of, “oh just turn your brain off and enjoy it”? Or “Just be happy you’re getting StarWars content at all”. I can speak for a lot of fans that episodes 1-6 and the clone wars would be just fine. A lot of StarWars fans have been following and studying the franchise for 20+ years. So when Disney releases a half assed, poorly written project, (which is more common than not) of course we’re going to speak out about it. StarWars fans aren’t the only ones who do this. There’s passionate fans for everything. Sadly there’s more casual viewers than there are die hard fans, so that’s why these big corporations can get by half assing everything because they know a bulk majority will “turn their brain off and enjoy it”. Lucasfilm and Disney are run by people who do not give the first single fuck about the fans. Keep shilling for them though.
@xskullxblack
@xskullxblack Жыл бұрын
@@friendlyneighborhoodcollec5928 Most star wars fans are not even happy with George lucas when he was in control and hated him for the return of the jedi and the prequels. Doesn't even matter if another company took over star wars. Fans would hate them as well. Even bringing back George lucas wouldn't even change anything, I love star wars but the fandom has issues and extremely toxic at times with hate mail etc, I still remember when George got death threats
@johnwkindig1613
@johnwkindig1613 Жыл бұрын
Hayden's "Obi-wan!" scream is more haunting and emotional, but Sam Witwer screaming "KENOBI!" is just so primal, and I still believe more iconic. Both very very good tho
@JaddyOG
@JaddyOG Жыл бұрын
Okay lmfao.
@poopooman6725
@poopooman6725 Жыл бұрын
Ok
@Ar1AnX1x
@Ar1AnX1x Жыл бұрын
Hayden's a good actor, and by good I mean great.
@G31M1
@G31M1 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you but I really prefer the "Obi-Wan"-scream
@davidozab2753
@davidozab2753 Жыл бұрын
As long as it's better than "NOOOO!!!"
@lgrey432
@lgrey432 Жыл бұрын
The finale was so emotional and so good. Also I loved the Goku/Freiza reference. That explained the conclusion of the rematch perfectly
@jjray209
@jjray209 Жыл бұрын
I love your reaction to episode 6! You should make another video of that!
@Fatazo
@Fatazo Жыл бұрын
I can’t be the only one who had tears while Obi-Wan apologized to Anakin.
@LeByMarionnettiste
@LeByMarionnettiste Жыл бұрын
I head tears of joy when Obi-wan was back and then I cried when he apologized and during Anakins suffering. It was fucking rollercoaster.
@bennyking572
@bennyking572 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it hit me in the feels
@staroceans8677
@staroceans8677 Жыл бұрын
Heart wrenching
@ivandurso412
@ivandurso412 Жыл бұрын
Present
@MonotoniTV
@MonotoniTV Жыл бұрын
"then my friend is truly dead" After all that happened. After all he did to Anakin and vise versa. The way Anakin/Vader looks. He's more machine then man. But Obi Wan still thought of him as his friend
@KBwake27
@KBwake27 Жыл бұрын
I love how they finally gave Vader the high ground… even if it didn’t last long lol
@Schmiloff
@Schmiloff Жыл бұрын
Love the breakdown! I think Kenobi being told it wasn't his fault was a gift from Anakin to give him that peace he needed! Loved this moment was some amazing acting!!
@homeboyjon4885
@homeboyjon4885 Жыл бұрын
The series conflicted me. Your video, though, was more moving and touched me more than the series! I love your passion for this content and how you actually make it sound better than Disney made it to be. Thank you!
@SN-mf9gw
@SN-mf9gw Жыл бұрын
I think that Kenobi adopting Qui-Gon's stance in his final fight against Maul was more of a bait than anything. You see a look of realization on Maul's face after Obi-Wan switches stances. And then, once the fight begins, Maul attempts to counter the stance/form in the same way he did so with Qui-Gon, using the hilt to stun him. This is the point where Obi-Wan's bait-out succeeds. He uses Maul's pride to bait him into killing the apprentice the way he did the master, making him incredibly predictable to Obi-Wan, who needs only one precise strike to win. Obi-Wan won that fight before it even began.
@geenickelhead8118
@geenickelhead8118 Жыл бұрын
I posted the same thing, but you beat me to it by a couple hours. You also said it better than I did.
@liamspear
@liamspear Жыл бұрын
Vader used the same stance during the finale. Watch the fight back again
@kielanwade5096
@kielanwade5096 Жыл бұрын
Yeah this is exactly how Sam Witwer himself describes the dual too
@SN-mf9gw
@SN-mf9gw Жыл бұрын
@@geenickelhead8118 Great minds! It's my favorite lightsaber duel to this day. To me it emphasizes what makes old Ben such a formidable opponent. You might be younger, stronger, and faster, but his surgical skill and unparalleled experience make him better. At this point there's nothing his opponents have seen/done that he isn't already prepared for. F#@$ing love it.
@SN-mf9gw
@SN-mf9gw Жыл бұрын
@korrok Oh yeah there was definitely some of that as well. A final nod towards his master, who is always with him, always watching. Wordlessly expressing to his master that, while he was, finally, to avenge his death, it would be from a place of calm, controlled mercy, as upposed to the brushless and rage with which he'd approached Maul during their first battle. I think it also symbolized how things have changed - Obi Wan was not able to protect Qui-Gon (nor Anakin), but now, at the end, he would fulfill his master's final wish. He would protect the boy.
@swift2247
@swift2247 Жыл бұрын
I love how kenobi kept calling him anakin, until now, calling him darth. In anh, ben called him that and it shows how he gave up believing anakin is in there.
@Darth_Mom_2
@Darth_Mom_2 Жыл бұрын
Hurts my heart
@TheDusty0ne
@TheDusty0ne Жыл бұрын
Had the same thoughts. I love how they drew the line here. Makes so much more sense now.
@edwardrichtofen8530
@edwardrichtofen8530 Жыл бұрын
Just why wouldn’t he kill Vader though? Calling him darth seems to show he gives up on saving Vader.
@renaicirculation4143
@renaicirculation4143 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardrichtofen8530 It was not his destiny to defeat the empire and vader. In the end, it was the right choice cause luke ultimately redeemed vader.
@edwardrichtofen8530
@edwardrichtofen8530 Жыл бұрын
@@renaicirculation4143 that is dumb. Never has obi wan been this “can’t due this it’s not my destiny”. He would have done it. Now obi wan is directly responsible for every action Vader does from now on. Also, totally not supported by the OT. That shows obi wan clearly wanted Vader dead but likely didn’t think he could defeat him. Otherwise, why would he try to make Luke kill Vader?
@dynaguy3
@dynaguy3 Жыл бұрын
Loved the reference at the end to the Sideshow Collectibles Mythos Obi Wan statue
@PopExtra
@PopExtra Жыл бұрын
I loved the episode, you cried so beautifully. So nice to see Qui Gon.
@Kenobi487
@Kenobi487 Жыл бұрын
There was a lot of beautiful scenes in this episode. Seeing Vaders mask get shredded with Hayden’s face showing was an emotional moment for sure. I didn’t realize his eyes turned from blue to sith but that makes the scene even better.
@generalstarwars2660
@generalstarwars2660 Жыл бұрын
I feel that every Jedi had their “force unleashed moment” and I feel after Kenobi gets out the rubble he finds his purpose in the galaxy and had his force unleashed moment
@cooly1224
@cooly1224 Жыл бұрын
And he finally gets closure and to heal after his encounter and talk with Anakin /Vader
@SolareofAstora
@SolareofAstora Жыл бұрын
Ya and he got these new found force powers by..... thinking of leia??... wierd... dumb...
@blksnaredrumer
@blksnaredrumer Жыл бұрын
@@SolareofAstora it's not a new found power. He used that all the time in the war.
@SolareofAstora
@SolareofAstora Жыл бұрын
@@blksnaredrumer not trying to bring ya down. Maybe we r talking about 2 different things. Ive just never seen kenobi pick up 40 boulders and hurl them at his opponent like he picked the mage class in elden ring.
@arthurreyes4991
@arthurreyes4991 Жыл бұрын
Another banger best starwars Content keep you brotha
@DarthInkling
@DarthInkling Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love you my brother @Star Wars Theory…one small correction, the toy that Obi-Wan gave to Luke wasn’t a Lambda T-4A it was rather a T-16 Skyhopper. Keep up the great work my brother, been following you for a few years, finally going to “join”. MTFBWY
@DaSupermanOf1990
@DaSupermanOf1990 Жыл бұрын
I love how Obi-Wan called him Darth just like he did in *A New Hope* he couldn’t say Anakin until *Return of the Jedi* same with Vader saying he *killed* him and words of Obi-Wan says to Luke, “he murdered and betrayed your father”.
@dkparsons8442
@dkparsons8442 Жыл бұрын
I glad someone mentioned this.
@buckethead60
@buckethead60 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad they kept the continuity of Luke not ever seeing a lightsaber, I just like how that was done. This episode was so great
@revengeofthesith.
@revengeofthesith. Жыл бұрын
?????????????????
@humanperson3932
@humanperson3932 Жыл бұрын
Obi has it on his belt when he for some reason talks to luke
@PooMonkeyMan
@PooMonkeyMan Жыл бұрын
@@humanperson3932 For all we know, it's like a collapsible baton on a police belt. We (Luke) don't know its purpose. It's a shiny object dangling from his belt, and that's just what it is. He doesn't know it's a more civilised weapon for a more civilised age.
@humanperson3932
@humanperson3932 Жыл бұрын
@@PooMonkeyMan that fact that people are having to make up so many excuses for this show shows how bad it is. Just don't have it in the scene
@tokyorift
@tokyorift Жыл бұрын
@@humanperson3932 the fact that you’re excusing logical conclusions as “reaching” shows how much you wanted to hate this show in the first place
@icotrios1271
@icotrios1271 Жыл бұрын
We now know that Vader still sounds like Anakin when the voice amplifier isn’t working so I wonder if the reason Vader’s voice sounds so different is because Sidious didn’t want Vader to think of himself as Anakin when he spoke.
@L9ines
@L9ines Жыл бұрын
Na it’s coz his vocal cords are burnt so he literally needs a voice amplifier [that changes his voice] in order to speak
@icotrios1271
@icotrios1271 Жыл бұрын
@@L9ines So when his voice amplifier breaks, why does he sound like normal Anakin. The explanation you gave is the one that applies for legends but I think i's clear that it does not apply to canon after episode 6 of Kenobi.
@jacka6207
@jacka6207 Жыл бұрын
Nah it’s because the original came out 40 years ago and they picked James Earl Jones because he sounded cool. Not everything needs a fucking explanation
@SYMShutYoMouth
@SYMShutYoMouth Жыл бұрын
@@jacka6207 It’s 2022 not 1979. Star Wars has expanded greatly. Your logic makes no sense. Especially when Vader takes his mask off and sounds different in Return of the Jedi.
@icotrios1271
@icotrios1271 Жыл бұрын
@@jacka6207 Also, we’re literally in the comment section to a SWT video. Explaining things is literally what this channel does.
@MattSmith-uo5ok
@MattSmith-uo5ok Жыл бұрын
I grew up in the 80's, and Star Wars were always a huge part of my childhood. I personally also love the prequels, because I loved the story. I was really moved by their conversation during their battle, when Anakin was injured. It was so well done. It was really cool to see that side of Vader, and Hayden did an amazing job with it.
@dungusglumbus9946
@dungusglumbus9946 Жыл бұрын
Love how Obi-Wan calls him “Darth.” He taunts him like he does in a New Hope. Gives me goosebumps
@cooly1224
@cooly1224 Жыл бұрын
I saw it more as Obi Wan letting go of his guilt and hope of Anakin still being in there and accepting that this is a new man
@dannhaleigh9573
@dannhaleigh9573 Жыл бұрын
"Only a Master of evil Darth." It ties in so perfectly even if there are still some continuity errors here and there but honestly I don't care. It came full circle for me this episode even if it did stagger quite a bit to get here.
@frankbizzoco1954
@frankbizzoco1954 Жыл бұрын
I liked that too. A form of mockery.
@CobaltMonkey
@CobaltMonkey Жыл бұрын
I love the part when obi-wan says "goodbye Darth" a call to a new hope when they meet again.
@evercreed714
@evercreed714 Жыл бұрын
After this episode and seeing the relationship between Obi-Wan and Leia throughout the series, I feel it is even more poignant that Leia and Han named their son Ben.
@jimmythewig3354
@jimmythewig3354 Жыл бұрын
I agree entirely. Before this series, Leia didn't really have any connection with Ben so it didn't make sense to me that they named him that.
@elliotsturtplus340
@elliotsturtplus340 Жыл бұрын
I love how it shows that Obi wan isn’t just a pushover for Vader instead Obi wan wins not by power but by raw skill not saying that Vader lacks any but what I’m trying to say is that since Obi wan trained Anakin so he was able to use Anakins anger to his advantage and plus Vader’s kinda limited in his movements so yea.
@jinxx44
@jinxx44 Жыл бұрын
The scene between Vader/Anakin and Obi-Wan shattered me. I broke down into tears, man. Hayden’s ability to communicate hate and anger just with his eyes, even through the makeup and half of his face not being visible is absolutely incredible. The lighting of that scene switching from the blue glow of Kenobi’s lightsaber when Anakin was telling him that he isn’t Obi-Wan’s failure, to the red glow of Vaders lightsaber when VADER took over and said he killed Anakin, just like he’ll destroy Obi-Wan was unbelievable. Not to mention Hayden’s absolutely SEAMLESS transitions back and forth from how Anakin speaks to how Vader speaks was phenomenal, and truly showed his acting skills. His SCREAMING of Obi-Wan’s name sent a chill down my spine. And of course, Ewan’s ability to communicate Kenobi’s emotions and past guilt over Anakin’s fall with barely any word of mouth and a lot of talking with the eyes is honestly some of the best acting I’ve seen from him ever. The entire scene made me cry like a baby. Their story is so heartbreaking, and out of all the stories in Star Wars is the one that always moves me to tears. Beautiful show man.
@dirkauditore8413
@dirkauditore8413 Жыл бұрын
Love how youre so passionate bout it
@SirMan48
@SirMan48 Жыл бұрын
It makes the prequel hate unwarranted, and put a halt on Hayden's career. Anakin's character while well written in the PT, was poorly *directed* with poor *dialogue*. Hayden is a talented actor and is quite clearly a theater sort of actor. Expressive.
@lucezzz2879
@lucezzz2879 Жыл бұрын
Beautifully said I couldn't agree more! It brings me peace and joy to see that Ewan and Hayden get the love they deserve from the fans 🥺❤️
@dhornjr1
@dhornjr1 Жыл бұрын
Excellent post.
@steveanctil2549
@steveanctil2549 Жыл бұрын
@@SirMan48 People just weren't ready at the time, now more and more people are realizing how good the prequels are and always have been; they have aged like fine wine.
@scottsparks9199
@scottsparks9199 Жыл бұрын
Best part you missed is when Kenobi is walking away, and he calls Anakin "Darth" for the 1st time....the same way he refers to him in a new hope and going forward....the last time He refers to him as Anakin until Luke asks him in Empire.
@marcopolo2418
@marcopolo2418 Жыл бұрын
I loved the part where they combined Anakin and Vader's voice, that was so sick.
@jermainehaslam5634
@jermainehaslam5634 Жыл бұрын
I loved that too, it just added to the conflict that was going on within Anakin and his battle with the Vader part of him!
@jayceez7747
@jayceez7747 Жыл бұрын
Even the ending to this video was beautiful, the music was the perfect finishing touch 🤌🏼
@MaddenfoLyfeJWR
@MaddenfoLyfeJWR Жыл бұрын
You could feel anakins voice shine through Vader when he said “you really thought you could defeat me” “master” after tossing the boulders on obi wan
@lonniehill8797
@lonniehill8797 Жыл бұрын
When Vader says “You didn’t fail Anakin I killed him” it reminds me of the part where obi wan says “Vader Betrayed and Murdered your father” and its a nice callback to that. Also when Luke finds our Vader is his father and obi wan says “its true from a certain point of view” makes so much more sense now
@nutrientocean
@nutrientocean Жыл бұрын
it already made sense before
@pfl9311
@pfl9311 Жыл бұрын
Great episode, and very coherent with the past & future of the saga. Absolutely loved the Vader/Obi Wan fight and interaction, and especially the broken mask - Vader's voice switching between the Hayden (Anakin) and JEJ (Vader original), conveying Vader's the full internal conflict. Obi Wan parts with Vader, calling him simply "Darth", as he does in New Hope - an appellation consciously defiant and insolent to Anakin's new identity, and diminishing of all Siths, thus completing the humiliation that is inherent with choosing the dark side, and which Anakin's ego seems to always stumble upon as he yearns instead for his Master's recognition of his status. Beautifully tied all together. One more "easter egg" - in New Hope, Luke discovers a lightsaber for the first time and asks Ben what it is -- naturally, in this episode when Third Sister approaches Luke to kill him, he is passed out and does not see the lightsaber.
@markmiller4911
@markmiller4911 Жыл бұрын
I love the way u talk Star Wars, you have the same love for it i do. Same opinion about the sequels i do, same love for the originals & prequels i do. I would love to talk one on one with you. Keep doing what youre doing.
@Jones-oz4bu
@Jones-oz4bu Жыл бұрын
“Anakin is gone, I am what remains.” That broke my heart 💔 what a beautiful season finale.
@csorange
@csorange Жыл бұрын
Was really happy with the finale!! The dual between Vader and ObiWan was unbelievable! Loved the iconic “hello there!”
@okletmesignup
@okletmesignup Жыл бұрын
the "hello there" cracked me up, I wasn't expecting them to actually deliver that
@BakermanCoD2
@BakermanCoD2 Жыл бұрын
The fight scene was meant to be double in length, we get the uncut version next year.
@inspectahdick2406
@inspectahdick2406 Жыл бұрын
My favorite actually was seeing Aunt Beru go absolutely ham on Reva with a blaster.
@geviesanta3631
@geviesanta3631 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, for everything that I've seen throughout this show, I truly genuinely loved how this series ended. I don't think I would see it any other way. Although the Kenobi series may have some issue with inconsistencies with the Canon of Star Wars as well as some needlessly dragged in fillers, I for one loved seeing the things that we gladly got in the show. With scenes such as the flashback with Anakin and Obi-wan, numerous prequels and clone wars callbacks as well as finally getting to see the force ghost of Qui-gon Jinn. That scene right there was a cherry on top for me with this series. I'm entirely grateful to see him again!
@carsonmays77
@carsonmays77 Жыл бұрын
Theory droppin' the Yoda wisdom at 10:17 got me good. Cheers. I agree with all of this.
@andrewreil3938
@andrewreil3938 Жыл бұрын
Obi Wan choosing to cripple Anakin again rather than kill him is truly telling to his character and to their relationship. Even buried in that mask, he couldn't bring himself to do it. Edit: Yes i cried, if you grew up on these films and with the Clone Wars (OG and the New Clone Wars) you should have at least welled up a bit. Seeing Anakin in there was horrific.
@jg7u
@jg7u Жыл бұрын
Rip to all the people murdered by Vader because Kenobi spared him again.
@power2daaplayer304
@power2daaplayer304 Жыл бұрын
@@jg7u lmao I know, its stupid in it's own that he could beat him again, and then he could easily have killed him but didnt after that monologue that one of them would die today
@chasem8631
@chasem8631 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@IronRoyal
@IronRoyal Жыл бұрын
They both are each other’s weakness… Vader let him win, kenobi didn’t finish him…. Etc lol.
@Bearical
@Bearical Жыл бұрын
@@IronRoyal Joker/Batman type of relationship
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