Anyone who knows this movie will always remember the "Get some" scene. Tim made history with that scene

He got all the money he was promised at least. The Door Gunnery scene is iconic. Good job Colceri.

Both roles ended up in the right hands in the end. Legendary.

The helicopter gunner actually made me lose sleep when I saw the movie. I asked my Dad, a retired CE9 and Vietnam Vet if they really did things like that. My Dad rented the VHS tape, watched it, then told me "YES, but way worse." That character is haunting! They made the right choice.

R Lee Ermey made history with his performance, I'm sorry Tim Colceri was put through the ringer but I think his door gunner lines are still very memorable.

Kubrick didn't even have the decency to give him the reach around.

That role of Drill-Sargent instructor, was tailor-made for Gunnery Sergeant Ronald Lee Ermey. Without him, Full Metal Jacket would had never become, one of the Best Vietnam Movies of All Times! What a great actor, as well as a human being. R.I.P. Gunnery Sergeant.

Everyone is a class act in this production. Amazing story. It's great Kubrick at least had the integrity to list Colceri in a starring role despite screwing him out of so many lines; Kubrick recognized the dedication and professionalism of Colceri. Meanwhile, Ermey hustled his way to a role he was born for, and just made the movie what it was. Colceri, delivered an unhinged, haggard performance, perfect for the role: maybe indeed it was from the experience of being left in the lurch for 2 years of production.

Feel bad for the guy, but Ermey was legendary in that role.

As a retired soldier myself, what Lee Ermey did was he flanked the competition.....

I'm an old veteran who went to see the movie at a theater when it came out. The boot camp scenes caused me to break into a cold sweat as my mind and body remembered. I understand perfectly why Kubrick switched actors... one was acting and the other was being himself.

"How could you shoot women and children?" "Easy! You just don't lead'em as much! Heha! Ain't war hell?"

not to diss colceri but i think Kubrik got it right with picking Ermey, he certainly brought some special sauce to that role..

"If god wanted colceri for that role he would've miracled his ass up there"

I feel for him, seems like such a genuine guy too. Very passionate about his work. Either way his scene ended up being a classic. Whenever I talk about Full metal jacket I talk about Lee ermy and the door gunner scene

That’s a good story of 2 former Marines doing what Marines do i.e. improvise adapt overcome. That line in the door gunner scene “get some” is still used my Marines everywhere. Semper Fi.

Kubrick originally didn’t want to keep in Tim’s laughing, but after reviewing the scene he chose to. And honestly Tim’s scene is probably as iconic as a Ernie’s performance. From the “get some” to the “If they run they’re a VC, if they stand still they’re a well disciplined VC” it truly a dark and extremely brutal take, that very few could pull off.

Tim Colceri is my uncle and my family and I have always heard the stories about him in the marines and about his time on full metal jacket and man you nailed everything we couldn’t be happier with what you did on this video thank you from Tim and the rest of us you did an amazing job

I was a 4341 (same MOS as Pvt. Joker) and worked in media relations at Camp Pendleton when I wasn't deployed. Back in 2007 I was assigned to escort R. Lee Ermey and his film crew for his show (Mail Call), think it was four days. Ermey treated me to lunch every day when we were in Mainside, and it was fascinating to be able to sit down with him and pick his brain. Far and away my favorite memory: he was a surprisingly gentle man and soft spoken, highly intelligent. It was a trip seeing the real side of him as opposed to the Gunny Ermey he was known for.

His scene is one of the most memorable imo. True madness of war.

Colceri's absolutely right, given everything he went through, Kubrick should have at least told him in person

Well at least Kubrick gave him a role similar to Duvall’s “smell of napalm in the morning” culturally significant in US history. Hats off to Colceri.

The "Get some" scene, while firing a machine gun on civilians in a rice field totally encapsulates the realism of war in the 2nd part of FMJ. Jaded, battle-hardened GI's don't have the time (and the conscience) to sort out friend from foe, in a war where you cannot distinguish actual civilians from the enemy. "Aint' war hell?" Yup. Colceri nailed it.

I know he didn’t get the role he wanted but he created a very unique scene and dialogue - “get some”and “just don’t lead them as far”- activates a weird blood lust while also making you sick to the stomach at the same time

If I lost my role to R L Ermey, I wouldn't even be mad.

R Lee Ermey should have won an Oscar.

My dad did two tours in Vietnam in the Army and this is one of his favorite movies of all time. He laughs through all the boot camp scenes. Says that what they depict is the closest any movie has come to what he went through (again, in the Army!), during that time. I've read that the greatest directors can often be hell to work with and this seems to be the case here as well. But, the end result speaks for itself. Thanks to all who were involved in this awesome movie. And thank you, ALL who serve!

A door gunner in Vietnam had a very short life span, Colceri played the part so well. Portraying a Marine doing a suicidal job yet being a calm, callous and maniacal killer with a blank check to kill. He did a fantastic job.

"How can you shoot women and children? " "Easy, you don’t lead em as much" FMJ has to be one of the most quotable movies ever made. I feel pretty bad for Colceri but at least he got a really awesome part as the gunner in the movie.

I can't think of anyone better than Ermey to play Hartman, or anyone better than Colceri to play the door-gunner. Everything worked out in the end.

I knew that Lee Ermy had won the role because of his experience as a Drill Instructor. I didn't know the complete story and now that I do, it puts it all in perspective. I had always wondered who played that door gunner. And to find out that Mr. Colceri spoke at Lee Ermy's funeral really makes this a grand story. Thanks for making the video. And as a former Marine Corps Drill Instructor, I always thought that no one but a former Drill Instructor could have made that part believable.

I can definitely tell how much you love this movie, it's been a real pleasure going through these FMJ videos. Thanks for your hard work, sir

Tim's role as the door gunner has always stuck with me just as strong Lee's role

Lee Ermy was a fuckin godsend to the Marine Corps and to cinema itself. What a great man!

This was EXCELLENT work my friend.... your research, footage and presentation was on par with the talent of the actors and Kubricks directing. Thank you.

R Lee Emery's performance is pure Legend. But I will admit that I have used Colceri's quote "you know why? because I'm so F-ing good" many times; That is Legacy! Hats off to both those guys, they killed it in Full Metal Jacket.

Kubrick made the right decision all the way. Every character was exclusive. I'd like to hear about Animal mother's role.

I enjoy learning about actors/actress who were never on epstein's flight logs

great rundown of this story, Tyler! Saw FMJ in the theaters way back when but NEVER knew this...thank you!!!

Tim did such a great job, that his limited time on the film turned about to be one of the most memorable. "Get some!" He was awesome! One of my favorite scenes.

Both a vet and an extremely professional actor. What a badass.

Colceri took his portrayal of Hartman to 11. But Ermey was there in the rehearsals with a 12.

Ermy was that role, colceri's door gunner role was memorable though. I still remember "any person that runs is a vc, any person that stands still is a well disciplined vc."

Great video and a lot of good details. Colceri’s door gunner was so memorable. Great use of Colceri’s quotes at the end of your video.

The door gunner was the second most entertaining character in that film. The first? Hartman.

When I was in the Army I held a desk job, but as a soldier you're still required to demonstrate proficiency in certain "basic soldier skills" annually. So one morning, after pulling a fairly hectic overnight shift, we were all trucked out to the rifle range to take care of our annual marksmanship qualification on the M-16. We were told that due to our having just come off shift we'd be bumped to the front of the line on both zeroing our weapons and on the actual qualifications, but this being the Army that didn't really transpire. Instead, it was well into the afternoon before I actually found myself with a properly sighted weapon, on the range and waiting for the targets to begin popping up. I've always been kind of the "weird" kid, and despite having spent more than 6 years on active duty at that time my fairly warped sense of humor had survived. Combined with my sleep deprived state & frustration at _still_ being out there to qualify, I found myself yelling "GET SOME!" and similar little shouts every time I squeezed off a round at one of those targets, and to my surprise found that I was actually shooting much more accurately than I generally did. Now, the way the range was set up each firing position was fairly secluded, wrapping around a hillside with several meters of bushes between each soldier, so I hadn't really considered the possibility that a range safety (the sergeant tasked with supervising multiple firing lanes to ensure that no unsafe behavior was occurring and with intervening should an injury happen) would be standing right behind me watching until I glanced over my shoulder & saw him gawking at me with the most bizarre look I'd ever seen on an NCO after I'd dropped 6 or 7 targets in a row. Our eyes locked for a few awkward seconds before he said, "nice shooting soldier" and walked on to the next position, shaking his head. That wound up being the only day in my military "career" where I qualified as an expert marksman, the highest possible ranking. R. Lee Ermey's Drill Instructor Hartman is certainly the most memorable and quotable character from this great motion picture, and Matthew Modine's "Joker" easily the character I most identified with personally, but as a soldier (or, I'd imagine, as a Marine) it's the lines that Tim Colceri spat out in a few seconds of screen time which are most easily channeled when your barrel is pointing downrange. That fact shows what a fine actor he is; all the crap that he went through leading up to that performance proves what an incredible *man* he is.

Cinema Tyler… my guy you deserve soo much cred for making such elaborate comprehensive breakdowns …unparalleled work….keep it coming

Ermey was the right man for the role. I was a Marine when this came out and I saw it in Jacksonville, NC. It was a spot on portrayal of a PI Drill Instructor. Perfect performance.

If i'm ever in a conversation where I ask somebody how tall they are, my response is always "I didn't know they stack sh!t that high"

R Lee was the right man for the role. There can be no questions about that. No disrespect to Tim Colceri.

What a thorough deep dive! I had no idea there was so much more to this topic!

Fantastic video. You never know the pain and BS that anyone has to endure when making a movie. This was WELL worth the time to watch. Subscribed.

He did leave us with memorable quotes atleast. My favorite to this day is “cause I’m so fuckin’ good”

What about the original helicopter door gunner that also got fired? I feel sorry for him haha

Wow so much time, energy and back and forth went into 2 memorable performances for this film. Thanks for sharing this.

holy crap you nailed the ending. amazing as usual. my new favorite channel.

I'm always saying " Get some " "Get some" 😂😂😂. I was 17 yrs when I saw FMJ this in Grand island Nebraska

P.S - "Get some" is actually verbalized to consciously control your bursts. "Get some" for a short burst, and "son-of-a-bitch" for a long burst.

Dude. Well done. I'd heard the general story, but never this in depth. I clocked my decade in LA, struggling through this maze, tossed around by auditioning/casting/directing/ storms, but never got jerked around to this degree- What a great little doc, and what a great man Colceri is to weather all that and come out with his sanity intact, and still standing tall.

I love your channel Tyler. The only thing wrong with your content is that I want MORE! Keep up the good work.

Colceri’s door gunner part while small, was a major highlight of the movie. His version of GS Hartman was good, but Lee’s was a grand slam (which is expected since he actually did the job for 2 years). I think they both got the roles that worked best for them.

What would be cool would be to hear from some of the vets who were trained as Marines by the real life drill instructor Ermy from 65'- 67'.

that door gunner scene was the most memorable from the movie, first time I saw it I was in shock

The door gunner scene is one of the most disturbing in the film and he really made his mark on it.

This film deserves a series just like the Apocalypse Now one, I love your videos man.

"You're so ugly you could be a modern art masterpiece!" Oh yeah, I'm stealing this.

A masterpiece!!!! Every role, every scene throughout the whole movie(experience), was so on key to where I never one time didnt feel like I wasnt actual present. Never has a movie made an impact on me. " whose the leader of the team , who's made for you and me"? M-I-C-K-E-Y-M-O-U-S-E

Love that you put the behind the scenes stuff here - great actor - good to see the credit where deserved.

The Door Gunner role was IMHO the best part of the 2nd half of the movie!

Door Gunner Colceri, shortest and most memorable bad ass scene that scared us kids back then! RIP R. Lee Ermey.

Hands down one of my favorite characters of all time. Hardly a day goes by that I don't quote the door gunner.

This was an awesome video. Well done, CinemaTyler.

This is great insight into the movie. I've long lost count of how many times I've seen it, and my kids love it too. We quote lines from it all the time. The gunner scene has a couple of the strongest lines in the movie and thank goodness it wasn't cut. I feel bad for Colberi but I can't criticize the decision. I just cannot fathom anybody doing as good or better playing Hartman than Ermey. Ermey and Vincent really shot the movie into the stratosphere.

The door gunner is easily my favorite small snippet of the movie.

Thank You for the wonderful narration in all of your video's that complements the research you do....Peace and stay safe all.

@CinemaTyler ...lots of information, and not once did the term "boring" cross my mind... Well done Sir, Well done...

Mr. Colceri, if it's any consolation, your role as the door gunner has always been in my mind the most memorable, and by far my favorite scene of "Full Metal Jacket". Also, by any measure, your lines are unquestionably the most quoted from the film. As well as being among the most quoted lines in movie history!

Tim Colceri's helicopter scene is at the top of my all-time favorite movie scenes list.

I had no idea. Thanks for showing a demonstration of what it looks like when opportunity and preparation come together to create luck!

Man, this video was GREAT. The amazing movie defining manic performance of Tim Colceri is unarguably the result of being tormented. It utterly sucks what happened to him, but like a man, he made it count

Mr. Colceri the door Gunner is my ring tone on my phone, sometimes when I'm upset I use that line to cheer me up. Thanks for helping me out with bad times.🇫🇷🇺🇸⚜️

I always wondered about that guy. Very interesting. I always though there was more to that guy. He's just too much of a random fascinating character.

Back in that day most everyone had a Drill instructor similar to Lee Ermey. I would fear Ermey had he been mine. That bark of his resonates in me when im not even watching the movie. It was the realism in movie that keeps me replaying every few years or so. My sons love the movie.

Without Emery, that movie would not have become a cult classic.

Tim got screwed by Kubrick, but I'm glad he stayed on to play the door gunner. After seeing the two of them performing in this video, however, I do think that Lee did the best job. I'm glad his career continued on.

"if they run they're VC if they don't run they're well disciplined VC" might not be gunny but still a classic character

What a superb, unique, well researched video. Thanks 😊

The silver lining is having two great actors supporting the film. Great work

Colceri would have been a scary DI. There is no doubt that Sgt Hartman is iconic but everyone remembers the Door Gunner.

That still with Colceri and his Smokey Bear off-center of his head. Ermy would have never wore it like that.

The door gunner and the sniper being killed at the end were the two most intense scenes for me...both showing the madness and insanity of war.

Really enjoyed this, thank you!

I saw FMJ when it first came out and I thought the door gunner in FMJ looked to old to be a door gunner. I was 20 when I went to Vietnam in 1970. But I'm glad to find out that Colceri got respect in the credits for his hard work. I think that door gunner scene came out of Michael Herr's book, "Dispatches." Micheal Herr was a consultant on FMJ, also.

Being a Marine during Vietnam I watched the first part of FMJ and was thrust back in time Ermey did an excellent job which I attribute to his being a drill instructor and the only thing I would say as far as Ermey is that he was just a little to nice to his recruits I remember my DI's being a whole lot meaner but I am sure they didn't want to hurt the USMC's future recruiting by showing all that recruits go through.

If it's any comfort, I'll remember him as much as I do Ermy. Like everyone else has already said, that moment is poignant, palpable, and visceral. He represents the man who became conditioned, even more so than Ermy torturing recruits. He was as much a part of the film as Ermy. His apathy towards the role even comes out while he's killing civilians. This movie is truly unforgettable, as it should be, as much as the original experiences as those who served when they didn't have a choice. Bless you all and thank you for your services.

Bravo my freind, great video start to finish

"Like a coach with two star quarterbacks." Man, tough call to choose between Colceri and Emery, but I'm with Kubrick with this one. I'm sure in his rage, Colceri said some choice words about Emery, but I wonder if he accepted Emery really had that "extra something" that Kubrick mentioned. "Emery _was_ Hartman" says it all.

As a former USMC door gunner in Northern I Corps Vietnam during 1969, I can tell you nobody ever used civilians for target practice. I liked the authenticity of Lee Emery’s portrayal of GySgt Hartman in FMJ. Aside from killing the DI, the training scenes were similar to my personal experiences. I was always bothered by the door gunner scene. It really was bullshit.

Colceri got the last laugh because that doorgunner scene was one of the most chilling in the film

100% the right decision having Ermey as the DI, and 100% the right decision having Colceri as the door gunner. His line 'Get some!' is one of the most memorable lines in the film!