How police can use Brady lists to discredit whistleblowers

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ABC15 Arizona

ABC15 Arizona

4 жыл бұрын

An ABC15 investigation found the broken and disparate Brady system used by prosecutors is based almost entirely on self-reporting and self-investigation by police departments.

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@420frankp
@420frankp 3 жыл бұрын
End absolute immunity with government and qualified immunity with the police.
@ItsTimePictures
@ItsTimePictures 3 жыл бұрын
Which will make it worse because no one will want to be a cop.
@xWoznyx
@xWoznyx 3 жыл бұрын
@@ItsTimePictures If that deters people from being police then they shouldn't be cops to begin with lol
@owenspears8662
@owenspears8662 2 жыл бұрын
@@xWoznyx exactly!
@lilcourtny08
@lilcourtny08 Жыл бұрын
​@@ItsTimePicturesonly the bad apples that will not get away with comitting crimes. The so call good cops shouldn't have anything to worry about
@ArcanaKnight
@ArcanaKnight 3 жыл бұрын
"Retaliation is unacceptable and will not be tolerated" ...but you've already tolerated it.
@Timbone07
@Timbone07 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@danieljones317
@danieljones317 3 жыл бұрын
Will not be tolerated because we condone it.
@richmanz447
@richmanz447 3 жыл бұрын
Phil Roberts is showing real bravery. Unfortunately, real bravery isn't tolerated in the police cartel.
@laqueenawilliams4762
@laqueenawilliams4762 2 жыл бұрын
Good people are always the one who get the short end.
@howlinwulf
@howlinwulf Жыл бұрын
Thanks to him, Putting himself in a bad spot Everyone knows cops will retaliate and also if they ever find a j on a person (subject) they will pull them over every single time the (SUBJECT) is spotted. Stay safe out there
@gregorylane4684
@gregorylane4684 3 жыл бұрын
Corruption is no longer a bad thing to these city actors. Time to bust this weapon to defraud the public completely apart.
@JarrisVonzombie
@JarrisVonzombie 3 жыл бұрын
Dave, I am glad you are covering this problem. Police whistleblowers are being retaliated against by cities and towns through wrongful terminations and blacklisting added by police agency administrators and county attorneys.
@torrefied3157
@torrefied3157 3 жыл бұрын
Huh, an honest cop. Who knew?
@andrewcross8244
@andrewcross8244 Жыл бұрын
Honest cop is an oxymoron. Even the whistleblowers have ulterior motives. Cops are absolute scum
@fullsoundrecording
@fullsoundrecording Ай бұрын
NOT, he is crying fo0r some unknown, Phill Roberts now knows what we all face when it comes time to interact with the cops. so it's frustrating isn't it Phill Roberts. Well, you laid down with the snakes and played with the snakes and now you can retire with the snakes. I have no sympathy for Phill Roberts.
@EvilVacuum
@EvilVacuum 4 жыл бұрын
And people wonder why we want law enforcement to be overhauled. Why are protectors of the law not held to a higher standard? Why is law enforcement afraid of accountability and transparency? Phoenix PD doesn’t even report in LEO stats requested by the FBI 🤔
@jayzeee2734
@jayzeee2734 3 жыл бұрын
Their job is to keep the prisons. Full of people and the court system with Souls going through the system so they have a financial incentive to pray on the poor and minorities we can't afford lawyers so they have secret programs to drop off guns and drugs in poor communities and to make crime rates go up for funding
@thomasmills3934
@thomasmills3934 2 жыл бұрын
Most of us dont want cops overhauled man. We want people to stop committing crimes. Twitter and social media are not real life man. Thats y Trump won. Most of us out here stay quiet most of the time. This whole woke thing is about to end.
@EvilVacuum
@EvilVacuum 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasmills3934 you don’t need social media to tell you that Trump lost. His lawyers brought over 60 cases to court across the country and he lost them due to lack of evidence. You don’t have to take my, the media,, lawmaker, or social media’s word for it, they are public court record. You can literally read who the judges were (appointed by him), that there was no evidence, and that’s why the court cases were thrown out. If you don’t have evidence, your case doesn’t go forward. Simple. And if you don’t require evidence to believe things, then I don’t know what to tell you. Who are you hearing that Trump lost from, LAWMAKERS? Sure, they NEVER lie. 😒 I don’t trust Democrats either, that’s why I independently check things like court proceedings, lawmakers voting records, medical peer reviews, etc. You don’t have to take ANYONE’s word. It’s all public. And as far as police, let me guess, you don’t trust the government at all, but for some reason you completely trust the foot soldiers of said government. And even if you resolve yourself of that, police are still entry-level jobs, held by imperfect humans, in a job that comes with IMMENSE power. Maybe I’m crazy, but any job that comes with significant power and since humans can be corrupted and imperfect, should come with significant oversight and scrutiny. Not have a blind spot for them. That’s exactly how corruption festers, when good people look at the other way. I trust no one. Especially in government. It comes with too much power to just assume people are doing the right thing.
@Antygrvity69
@Antygrvity69 2 жыл бұрын
​@@thomasmills3934: That's because either most of you are naive or don't care because the corruption hasn't affected you yet. Crime isn't going anywhere..! What many of you fail to see and understand is that our Gov will make sure crime doesn't decrease but so much. The way our country is designed is to make sure crime stays as high as possible while convincing as many citizens as possible that they are being tough on crime. If you don't understand why, think about it and follow the money. What career (not dead-end jobs but career's), what career does crime not generate more opportunities. Careers generate revenue for the Gov. & it's in their best interest to keep prisons filled, then turn around and convince you (the citizen) how it's costing taxpayer money. Don't believe me, do your own research and you will see that if crime was cut too much, you will realize how many citizens would be out of a career. Judges, Lawyers, doctors, surgeons, etc. etc. etc., the list goes on and on. And we haven't even trickled down to talk about the Police, Firemen, Emergency room crews yet. And still yet haven't made our way over to how crime generates IT Careers, especially Cyber Security careers. The 70's start on the so called "War on Drugs". Do you realize how many careers the War on Drugs generated? It's in America's best interest to keep crime as high as possible, even if falsely generated. That's why people that understand is asking for "not only police reform", but to reform the system as a whole from top to bottom. Until the rest of you realize this, nothing will change because they have most of you thinking our system want to stop crime. Why would anyone try to put a stop to something that will literally eliminate the majority of career opportunities in this country?
@commonsense5506
@commonsense5506 2 жыл бұрын
LEO = Gangs
@warrmalaski8570
@warrmalaski8570 3 жыл бұрын
I commend you on top-notch journalism. Rarely seen in this day and age.
@MikinessAnalog
@MikinessAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
It was dirty what they did to him. All this does is keep good cops from speaking out and THAT is what the public wants. Accountability.
@matthewsmith3078
@matthewsmith3078 2 жыл бұрын
When good cops don’t speak out, they stop being good cops.
@RosieBaby-808
@RosieBaby-808 7 ай бұрын
@@matthewsmith3078I agree but what they are doing is punishing them for being good cops and effectively silencing many! This is outrageous!
@markmixon1121
@markmixon1121 3 жыл бұрын
There is no room for good cops in the system.
@gangrel138
@gangrel138 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is that internal affairs is internal to the department. We need external affairs departments with no attachments to the police department or local government who have investigatory powers. Heck we could set up a department within the FBI and they rotate investigators to different cities every couple of years so they don't build rapport with the officers in that city.
@usar-vet8248
@usar-vet8248 3 жыл бұрын
Our Police Force in our whole Nation Definitely needs Police Reform. If this goes on, they will be Judge, Jury, and executioner.
@redfin382
@redfin382 3 жыл бұрын
If an organization of civilian people were commiting the crimes these police officers are committing they would be considered a gang and thrown in prison. This is why we need the rethink our entire policing system. It's broken.
@KyleMatt11
@KyleMatt11 3 жыл бұрын
Wtf is going on in this nation!
@OrlandoFace
@OrlandoFace 3 жыл бұрын
Note: any and all Mayors or city officials looking to appoint a police chief should be reaching out to Mr. Roberts immediately. Integrity should be the first qualification, and by my estimation, this is the only clear case of that I have seen.
@MikinessAnalog
@MikinessAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
It was dirty what they did to him. All this does is keep good cops from speaking out and THAT is what the public wants. Accountability.
@cybergrindin
@cybergrindin 3 жыл бұрын
Dont forget.. white skin is recommended
@jmo1375
@jmo1375 11 ай бұрын
@@cybergrindin Skin color has nothing to do with it
@whyzzman
@whyzzman 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't make any sense why his name continues to be on this list. Someone please say that his name has been removed. Hopefully he sues as well for libel.
@junkman4126
@junkman4126 3 жыл бұрын
This is a warning for the ones thinking about crossing that thin-blue line.
@cybergrindin
@cybergrindin 3 жыл бұрын
You mean that white line.. 🤫
@junkman4126
@junkman4126 3 жыл бұрын
@@cybergrindin Not that thin-blue line.
@jmo1375
@jmo1375 11 ай бұрын
@@cybergrindin Get off your racial high horse
@VG-rj8pn
@VG-rj8pn 2 жыл бұрын
Retaliation is unacceptable and will not be tolerated while this article just proved that it is both the standard way of doing things and is completely tolerated
@jimtom4849
@jimtom4849 3 жыл бұрын
The police Academy needs held responsible also because they make the tyrants also
@roberth4727
@roberth4727 3 жыл бұрын
Great reporting!!
@tatersalad6872
@tatersalad6872 3 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day it is of my opinion that police depts should not be investigating themselves. There needs to be an outside entity not affiliated with the police dept who does the internal investigations. additionally said entity should not be paid for by the police dept nor should it involve anybody of any relationship to any police officers so as to help ensure there is no bias for the police dept involved in any investigation!
@l.a.8309
@l.a.8309 3 жыл бұрын
They're gangs, not departments.
@lindabb621
@lindabb621 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏 for sharing this conversation! Critical to our community and it’s success. This is a HUGE TOPIC! Why haven’t we heard about this before I wonder! Stay strong, stay safe. 😊 THANK YOU!!❤️
@vampirehunterd2561
@vampirehunterd2561 3 жыл бұрын
*We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong*
@DirtyTRoy-hg6re
@DirtyTRoy-hg6re 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing can change dirty 😱
@roben9580
@roben9580 9 ай бұрын
I am a whistleblower for police corruption, in Snoqualmie, and North Bend Wa. They are now saying I am mentally deficit for reporting officer, Sargeants , Captain and the chief of stalking, harassment, attacks.
@wekabird886toktown7
@wekabird886toktown7 2 жыл бұрын
I must comment abc15 for covering this stuff. well done guys!!!
@ariesgirl9592
@ariesgirl9592 3 жыл бұрын
And people still have faith in "good" cops lol.
@killer_bro_empireitsme3613
@killer_bro_empireitsme3613 3 жыл бұрын
Nope I got faith in 5.56 and 7.62 🤣🤣
@VG-rj8pn
@VG-rj8pn 2 жыл бұрын
They are idiots
@Sfeliciano4
@Sfeliciano4 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe that this isn’t brought up as a national issue. But for real. Not just by the citizens that care. By Congress. Hello?!?! It would be so very easy to hold law enforcement accountable and pay better to get higher educated cops that don’t do it as a last resort job. Just Ugh.
@Joekuh
@Joekuh 2 жыл бұрын
its not a bug, ITS NOT A FEATURE.
@fulcheroverman5500
@fulcheroverman5500 2 жыл бұрын
I get so tired of hearing the word whistleblower or rat. these people should be applauded. They are men and women with honor and high morals which we need at this time to expose corrupt bad apples. Those that stand by and say or do nothing are just as corrupt as the bad apples. The only way to straighten law-enforcement out is with honorable men and women stepping up to the plate and doing the right thing.
@jayzeee2734
@jayzeee2734 3 жыл бұрын
I bet you a million dollars there are more innocent people in prison then there are innocent cops on the Brady list💯
@vikeyshamurray7553
@vikeyshamurray7553 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@Antygrvity69
@Antygrvity69 2 жыл бұрын
Jay zyeee: Yep, and people have been saying that for decades. Only reason people are now believing is because of cams
@TheGreat_One1988
@TheGreat_One1988 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like a case of “we investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing”
@killer_bro_empireitsme3613
@killer_bro_empireitsme3613 3 жыл бұрын
Hear it from a former cop how do you think that investigation wanted to go didn't know that was possible
@christopheraaron8299
@christopheraaron8299 2 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for the guy, but I don't think it's wise to make it easier to get cops off of Brady lists. It'll end up being abused and very bad cops will get their names removed.
@redciroc1211
@redciroc1211 2 жыл бұрын
If citizens get arrested that's public record immediately
@ufofool
@ufofool 3 жыл бұрын
They write thier own policies to fit their own needs, same in Pima County.
@karenbyrd795
@karenbyrd795 2 жыл бұрын
Corruption starts at the top
@Antygrvity69
@Antygrvity69 2 жыл бұрын
Karen Byrd: Exactly, and until more of us realize this, nothing is going to change. These bad / corrupt police officers are following their chain of command.
@catritz
@catritz 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a bunch of kids in a schoolyard... Unfortunately, most of the kids are bullies.
@paulwilliams5208
@paulwilliams5208 3 жыл бұрын
Hono"U"rably retired - yet on the brady list my head hurts trying to work it out
@chimotrufio7165
@chimotrufio7165 3 жыл бұрын
Cool episode
@robertmichel772
@robertmichel772 6 ай бұрын
there is no oversight for law enforcement in Maricopa county😢 this is not healthy for the people that pay the taxes
@richvan2128
@richvan2128 2 жыл бұрын
Now hiring folks. Apply and change it.
@rockymntnliberty
@rockymntnliberty 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps I missed it but they never actually said the real statistics on the kidnappings they said the one a day was false, but is 358 the real number and technically not one a day, or is it more like 80?
@bswogger4656
@bswogger4656 Жыл бұрын
This behavior is all over now not just with police departments. When I seen all the corruption I understand why many officers do nothing to stop it. Anaphylaxis turned in to over 10 years and counting of terrorizing abuses mostly clerks practicing medience, doctors not addressing because of clerks office managers. Insurance company benefits. Wish government funded abuse was not real but it is, integrity matters!
@jasoncody1537
@jasoncody1537 Жыл бұрын
Funny how they'll put an officer on the Brady list quickly when it's convenient for them when it isn't they stonewall the process
@Jahwobbly
@Jahwobbly 6 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@tipsybass7060
@tipsybass7060 3 жыл бұрын
sigh... the only thing i miss about being in the valley, is the 109 degrees at 645 pm... that was the only thing that i had no complaints about, the weather. everything else....shiiite
@TeamBrooksx6
@TeamBrooksx6 3 жыл бұрын
It is a good ideas - however - the argument that some good guys get caught up in it - is almost comical - given that most officers are OK with violating a persons rights in the pursuit of justice even if they are innocent 🤷🏼‍♀️
@WhatSoEverThingsAreLovely
@WhatSoEverThingsAreLovely 3 жыл бұрын
How can the States be "United" when there is such disparity in just the Police Departments across the country?
@edwardhickey5185
@edwardhickey5185 2 жыл бұрын
They been lieing so much . They got caught at it. No ethics at all. And that's the supervisor.. Well quit resign and retire standing operating system. Neer admit guilt
@davealmighty9638
@davealmighty9638 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who noticed that in the bottom right corner, it says it is 109 degrees? No wonder arizona is so crazy. It's hotter than hell there. 😅
@slconley
@slconley 5 ай бұрын
Isn’t Frank Sloup on the Brady list?
@josemilian4167
@josemilian4167 2 жыл бұрын
yea cops retaliating against good cops is an issue too. tactic that lets bad cops flourish.
@bohemoth1
@bohemoth1 3 жыл бұрын
Under no circumstances people should ever go to Arizona. People must AVOID going to Arizona. Don't even fly over Arizona just in case the airplane has an Emergency and crashes in Arizona. Don't even cast your shadow over Arizona and don't let the shadow of Arizona be cast upon you.
@randydavis7122
@randydavis7122 2 жыл бұрын
Resisting arrest ?!?!is the new " stop fighting me sir/ ma'am catch phrase for racist cops😁.
@robertm1257
@robertm1257 2 жыл бұрын
BEAUTIFUL AMERICAN FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY WTF
@michaelmcmahon3383
@michaelmcmahon3383 3 жыл бұрын
Oh that sucks
@gerryanderson1631
@gerryanderson1631 3 жыл бұрын
The land of the free ? I think its one of the most frightning countries in the world. I will never visit again
@rossdaboss1959
@rossdaboss1959 3 жыл бұрын
Isaiah 53:5, he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes, we are healed. For salvation, people just need to follow the way they did it in Acts? They were baptized in the water and of the spirit. Here's why! The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. If we are to follow him, we must do the same thing. Death= repentance, Burial = baptism, and resurrection = being filled and rising again from the dead. That's what Acts 2:38 is. We must obey the gospel, 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL of our Lord Jesus Christ... Matthew 7:21-23, Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER which is in Heaven. St John 3:3-5, EXCEPT a man, be born of WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT, he cannot enter into the kingdom of GOD. We can't come up with our own gospel. Galatians 1:8-9, But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Don't be cursed. One way for all people. Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritans. Our salvation has to match-up with the scriptures and no scriptures on the subject can be taken away. Eternity is TOOO long to be WRONG! st, John 5:39, Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. The gospels show what Christ has done on the cross for us. The book of Acts shows us the beginning of Christ's Church and how to enter the Church, obeying Acts 2:38. The letters were written to the Church to show us how to behave now that we are born again into the Church. It's better to walk alone than to walk with a crowd going in the wrong direction. Are we supposed to follow the teachings of the apostles? Acts 2:42, And they continued steadfastly in the apostle's doctrines. Ephesians 2:20, We are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone. Don't get Titus 3:5 mixed up with James 2:14-26, about WORKS. One is a WORK of your OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS OR GOOD DEEDS and the other is a WORK OF FAITH. If you believe in this message, help spread it in the name of Jesus Christ so people can get saved the right way. God bless you
@fullsoundrecording
@fullsoundrecording Ай бұрын
Well, Phill Roberts now knows what we all face when it comes time to interact with the cops. so it's frustrating isn't it Phill Roberts. Well, you laid down with the snakes and played with the snakes and now you can retire with the snakes. I have no sympathy for Phill Roberts.
@redciroc1211
@redciroc1211 2 жыл бұрын
This Sergeant definitely does not fit the description of a dirty cop they screwed him over definitely
@JuanRamirez-md7pj
@JuanRamirez-md7pj 3 жыл бұрын
Truly like what you did, by reporting on this "Brady List". One issue, you keep saying the Brady System is broken. A strong possibility, yet consider that the Brady System is doing EXACTLY what it is meant to do. Perhaps the true intention was to simply pacify the publics outrage. A way to present the public with the ILLUSION that they are really trying to make things better. Logic tells you, that if you are serious about making a change, you FOLLOW through. You hold those bad officers accountable, you enforce consequences, you make sure these indiscretions by people who, by occupation, SHOULD be held to a higher standard are reported on a NATIONAL level, most importantly you TERMINATE and ensure that these people can no longer hold positions in law enforcement anywhere in the country. They aren't willing to do that, instead, they blow smoke in the publics face and cover up and commit the same crimes they arrest citizens for.
@tlhaloyn8485
@tlhaloyn8485 3 жыл бұрын
Won't be tolerated. Lie again.
@milla698
@milla698 2 жыл бұрын
THE PIG'S CAN'T POLICE THE PIG'S
@sethbrunfiedsr5194
@sethbrunfiedsr5194 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds criminal to me
@EVOLMAI
@EVOLMAI 3 жыл бұрын
💁🏽‍♀️😲 Sounds like the other BIG LIE 😤
@qwazysymbiote4931
@qwazysymbiote4931 3 жыл бұрын
F___ a “Brady list”! POLICE THE POLICE! ! ! ! ! ! !
@jamesbnadaparati352
@jamesbnadaparati352 3 жыл бұрын
Attach all files to S.S.#
@USMC1984
@USMC1984 8 ай бұрын
EVERY BRADY LIST NATION WIDE IS A JOKE!!!
@canucanoe2861
@canucanoe2861 2 жыл бұрын
More proof that there is not one good cop.............. that lasts.
@monicasaturn2514
@monicasaturn2514 3 жыл бұрын
🙄🙄🙄🙄
@junbug1love
@junbug1love 2 жыл бұрын
I've done many videos exposing cover-ups and if you are passionate about Justice than you'll like my channel I explain issues in detail and give as much background information and cross-reference the info to make sure that I have the most reliable information available on a particular topic
@HD-ww4je
@HD-ww4je 3 жыл бұрын
Republican run
@jasonzagaroli2639
@jasonzagaroli2639 3 жыл бұрын
Im a white male this isn't new I dont understand why majority or the middle to upper class doesn't want to admit it that's a big reason this stuff hasnt changed very simple
@lilcourtny08
@lilcourtny08 Жыл бұрын
If you obey the law there shouldn't be anything to worry about right?
@thewakebakeshow4160
@thewakebakeshow4160 3 жыл бұрын
He should've never resisted and that would've never happened to him
@BloomfieldProductions
@BloomfieldProductions 3 жыл бұрын
He wasn't resisting though have you seen the original footage?
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