How Pros Use Crimp Connectors, how to use crimp connectors, the right way

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James Gatlin

James Gatlin

11 ай бұрын

For more specific instructions, all manufacturers have a data sheet with instructions followed for the best results.
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@BitSmythe
@BitSmythe 6 ай бұрын
*THIS IS THE BEST VIDEO I’VE SEEN IN ALL OF MY KZfaq YEARS!* It’s short, to the point, no annoying “music,” properly focused, narrator not concerned with just hearing his own voice, informative, accurate. I’ve been using crimps professionally for 50+ years and you’re simply spot on. *_Well done, mate!_*
@MichaelApproved
@MichaelApproved 6 ай бұрын
Why is music in quotes?
@KStewart-th4sk
@KStewart-th4sk 6 ай бұрын
Can't say that i agree. Some of the crimps he showed looked amateurish with way too much wire sticking out to the point of interfering with the threaded screw he would be attaching the wire too. I have never been satisfied with the type of crimp those cheap crimpers accomplish. When i see "pros" in the heading i expected to see ratcheting crimpers and an explanation why they are better. In the case of an insulated terminal, they will do 2 crimps at the same time, one to the bare wire, and the other to the insulation of the wire. I have ratcheting crimpers made by Panduit, Thomas & Betts, AMP, insulated, non-insulated, as well as for different types of terminals. Not only quality ratcheting crimpers but another thing to consider are better quality terminals as well. I also have Weidmuller crimpers for ferrule connectors.
@BitSmythe
@BitSmythe 6 ай бұрын
@@MichaelApproved Because it’s copied crap, not entertaining at all.
@Patrik6920
@Patrik6920 6 ай бұрын
..i agree, not very professional demonstration at all. but in a pinch it will work...atlest for awhile....
@Patrik6920
@Patrik6920 6 ай бұрын
@@KStewart-th4sk ..the ends of the wire shall ALWAYS! without exceptions be visible EDIT: 4:02 its an actuall image how it should be, with the wire sticking out.
@horacesawyer2487
@horacesawyer2487 5 ай бұрын
Who would have thought so much must go into to fastening a wire to a connector! But it's great stuff. All makes perfect sense and should be done. What an outstanding video this gentleman has made for all of us. Excellence in packing the most information in the shortest time, graphics, and pointing for explanations. All my questions were answered when I re-ran it and thought about it. The comments are gold too. : )
@tookitogo
@tookitogo Ай бұрын
Oh, this only scratches the surface! Crimping is a precision metalworking technique, with tolerances far tighter than most people think. For smaller connectors (like the 0.1” headers commonly used in electronics) the actual crimp tolerances are often in the range of a few hundredths of a mm!!
@truegodofthunder
@truegodofthunder 4 ай бұрын
Clear, concise and easy to understand. Also, the only crimping video I've seen which explains where to place the divot on non-insulated terminals. Thank you!
@justaguy4real
@justaguy4real 2 ай бұрын
very much agree with you. I was thinking that about that too lol, and then there he answers it. Several questions were answered on the fly... ---Dude, this is one of the best most well explained video instructionals I've ever heard/seen. You answered the questions as I was thinking them. This is how teaching and training should be; you are the epitome of what works. Great job, and if your other videos are this good and thorough, you've got another subscriber in me for sure. *to everyone else, take heed to this guy's tutorial, its superb and I am a very tough judge about giving out kudos like this.
@TrailToughTrailers
@TrailToughTrailers 6 ай бұрын
The BEST video recording of info I have seen on YT in a long, long time. Full of great info, quick pace, no BS and right to the point(s). I wish everyone would follow this guy's example! He should win an award...
@darylp2010
@darylp2010 5 ай бұрын
Correct crimps are critical for long-term reliability. I had to do some non-critical crimps recently in a fully-equipped workshop. I had high quality crimp lugs and ratchet tool, however, I didn't know what all the tool positions were for. Checking the stamping on the lugs was an eye-opener too. Next time I'm at the workshop I will review all of James tips.
@bishopp14
@bishopp14 6 ай бұрын
Well I actually learned something! I've been crimping non insulated connectors incorrectly for years! I (like you said) always made it a point to put the indention over the split side. Great video!!
@justmyself1000
@justmyself1000 5 ай бұрын
Agreed! I’ve been doing it wrong as well. I’ve been crimping wires longer than this young man has been alive and I’ve been doing a couple of things wrong! Thank You!
@bishopp14
@bishopp14 5 ай бұрын
​@@QuietlyContemplating Correct.
@scottsandmeyer1832
@scottsandmeyer1832 4 ай бұрын
Same here, I always thought the non indented crimp looked too wimpy and loose.
@Flashahol
@Flashahol 5 ай бұрын
I often use the crimper to hold the connector, else double check your wire is inserted correctly before crimping. Excellent video and gets my stamp of approval!
@dellalderman8011
@dellalderman8011 4 ай бұрын
Nice video. No frills straight to the point. I have been doing it wrong all along. Thanks for the right way. Amazing what you can learn just by reading the instructions "on" the tool!!!!
@campbellmorrison8540
@campbellmorrison8540 6 ай бұрын
Here I thought I knew all about crimping, Ive been doing it for years. I didn't know to crimp the back of a split non insulated type. Learn something every day :)
@jobaecker9752
@jobaecker9752 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video on what I would have thought is a very simple task. ...A simple task I've been doing wrong for decades now... WOW!
@pcofranc
@pcofranc 11 ай бұрын
Awesome short focused video. I've been working with crimps for 30+ years and didn't know about the non-insulated part of the tool and was never sure how much of the jacket to remove or that wire need to be visible. I also have the ratchet style but don't use it much but I'm going to after watching this video. I would add that in some cases when crimping wires of different sizes solder can be helpful as a proper crimp may not exist
@Soupie62
@Soupie62 6 ай бұрын
Solder on crimps is- controversial. The official line is that, if you apply a crimp to a wire with solder on it, it will "creep" and the wire can eventually come loose. I've seen crimped earth wire rejected, for this reason. Personally, I crimp the wire, THEN add solder. This ensures there is no solder between the crimp surface, and the wire.
@horacesawyer2487
@horacesawyer2487 5 ай бұрын
@@Soupie62 makes sense! Solder usually always has a bit of a lubricant component to it, doesn't it? Flux or the tinning itself. Definitely can see it would creep ever so slightly in vibration or other movement situations.
@nicomilanes3710
@nicomilanes3710 5 ай бұрын
Three comments here by pcofranc, Soupie62, and horacesawyer2487, advocate for soldering crimped connections. Do NOT attempt to solder a cold weld joint as is the goal of the crimp process, unless explicitly instructed to do so in the manufacturer's instructions. A company policy does not overturn the authority of the manufacturer; however, a contract might, but that's another story. The purpose for which we use crimped connections is for a faster and "safer" method of securing an electrical connector for establishing good connectivity. A crimp is the process of forming a cold weld between two metals or a connector metal and stranded wire. Applying heat for the process of soldering to a crimp returns plasticity to the joint, releasing the cold weld formed prior and introduces new factors that do not preclude failure. "Safer" in quotes because the performance of the connector is not being referenced but instead "how safe is it for the technician to install," wherein a molten alloy of metal and flux is generally going to take more time, allowing more opportunity for the technician to make mistakes and harm themselves or other components near the work pieces. Regardless if the work performed is subjected to inspection scrutiny following IPC-WHMA, J-STD, MIL-STD, NASA-STD, Advisory Circulars, or whatever, do not mix bonding processes. If you want to solder the connection, then do so without introducing additional extraneous variation to your procedure. This clearly hit a nerve. Sorry if this sounded condescending.
@noneyabus1
@noneyabus1 2 ай бұрын
@@nicomilanes3710 I have noticed something about soldered connections as well. If the connection is used in a way that the wire is moved a lot, it tends to break right where the soldered and non-soldered part meets. In stranded wire, it is designed to bend and can handle a lot of bending. Comes in handy where something is moving the wire or even vibration. The solder makes a part of that wire stiff, no longer able to bend. When it bends often enough, it breaks. Worse yet, it may only be a partial break and results in arcing, intermittent connections etc etc. I used to put a small amount of solder on the end of the wire that is sticking out near the connection point to whatever equipment I am hooking to, the o-ring or blade end if you will. After having to replace some of these due to the wire breaking, I decided not to solder them anymore. It is rare that one breaks now. The wire just flexes as it was designed to do even tho it is crimped. While a little solder *may* make for a better electrical connection, it makes it weaker mechanically. I might add, if one crimps the wire correctly, the electrical connection is as good as it will get without solder. A good crimp tool will practically squeeze the air out from between the individual strands of wire and it is almost solid. A really good crimp tool will make it solid. There are videos here on you tube that shows cutaways of a properly crimped wire. For large wires, I have a crimp tool that is put in a vice. Just wanted to add that tidbit of info.
@BlaqRaq
@BlaqRaq 6 ай бұрын
Yep, I've been crimping along, but I agree with your suggestions. I will change my style. I learnt from you dude. The last two points are golden.
@rsporsche
@rsporsche 6 ай бұрын
I would also have crimped the non-insulated terminals with the divot on the seam, but now you mention it it makes more sense to do it the other way round otherwise the divot might just push between the seam and deform the terminal
@BAK87
@BAK87 6 ай бұрын
Usually these kind of videos are stretched out, wrong and dangerous, this may be the exception. Well done!
@007commentator3
@007commentator3 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, that was extremely helpful. And without any annoying fuss or noisy background music.
@scruffscrofula
@scruffscrofula 6 ай бұрын
An incredible information load. One of the best videos I have ever seen on KZfaq!
@dougbriggs6797
@dougbriggs6797 6 ай бұрын
When stripping I rotate the wire 90 degrees for the second cut which helps insure the insulation is completely trimmed. Excellent and concise video especially for newcomers.
@markm3.16
@markm3.16 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. My father taught me as a kid make your cut in the jacket, back off turning 90°, make a 2nd cut, loosen your pressure and pull back the unwanted portion of the jacket, then pull it off by hand while twisting keeping the wire strands nice and tight.
@j86wedge
@j86wedge 4 ай бұрын
Needed this before some modifications to my bike wiring. Straight to the point and no nonsense. Subbed
@youtubular007
@youtubular007 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. Best instructional video ever. You need to be the model for how all other training videos are made.
@davidquirk8097
@davidquirk8097 6 ай бұрын
Not bad, I'm glad you included the caveats regarding professional crimps. I work on railway systems and have worked on military systems in the past and in both cases the crimps have to be made using the correct specification of crimps using only the crimp manufacturers tools which must also have a valid calibration certificate. It makes crimping an expensive past time with individual crimp terminals costs just shy of £1 (GBP) each for small ring terminals and crimp tools running around £150-£300 plus annual calibration charges. Your guide is great for the amateur user and provides a good basis for doing the job and shows how to avoid the common pitfalls. TE Connectivity have some great information on their website regarding the correct shape of the finished crimp (mostly telling you why you MUST buy their tooling to go with their crimps...) and also information that points to why their crimps are so costly. Whenever I have to use a new type of crimp and tool I like to do a dummy run and then section the crimp to check that the conductor and crimp appear as a solid mass
@davidblyth5495
@davidblyth5495 6 ай бұрын
Both rail and military systems have low tolerance for poor reliability I've seen the results of inadequate bonding. Your comments are worth being taken to heart by those who wish to do this work
@rusle
@rusle 6 ай бұрын
@@davidblyth5495 In addition Mil spec crimp do also crimp around the insulation of the wire (for smaller AWG). This is done to remain the strength of the wire. So a mil spec terminal need a different tool than the one you can buy at the local shop.
@davidblyth5495
@davidblyth5495 6 ай бұрын
@@ruslethe cost of failure on weapons systems is very high, so it's critical to ensure reliability and dependability
@M0UAW_IO83
@M0UAW_IO83 6 ай бұрын
Yup, all of that plus there are standards for testing crimp integrity which include pulling on test crimps with a specified force to ensure it doesn't part.
@neilfromclearwaterfl81
@neilfromclearwaterfl81 5 ай бұрын
David - My Dad was a WW2 Wire Chief and on a field connection exposed to weather or under water he would use a modified Western Union with a square knot that would be soldered and then be wrapped with Bulldog Natural Rubber Tape coated with rubber cement which would then be vulcanized in place. No crimp to corrode, heat up or fail and no chance for water infiltration. In the more modern era for field connections he would still use the modified Western Unions soldered and wrapped tightly with only one or two layers of the Natural Rubber Tape and then Marine Shrink Wrap them. For connections inside equipment or vehicles he'd use non-insulated terminals, pin crimp, solder and then seal the crimp to the insulation on the wire with Marine Shrink Wrap. Yes neatness and technique counts so you don't wick excess solder up under the insulation or have a cold solder. He would hate the new low temperature Solder Stick Non-Crimp Connectors that rely on solder that melts at the same temperature as the shrink wrap as the only thing maintaining the electrical bond. On the pressure weld crimps indeed you should use the matching crimps and crimpers to get the best air tight pressure weld when you set them. Best!
@FirstTry379
@FirstTry379 2 ай бұрын
You did a great job explaining that. I have seen a lot of bad crimps and don't really blame the average DIY person because the information out there is vague and misleading on how to do it correctly.
@amittyagiat80
@amittyagiat80 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video with pretty clear camera focus. Neat and clean with procedure explained for each type of wire gauges.
@TheCynysterMind
@TheCynysterMind 4 ай бұрын
Wow for once I can see a tutorial that is actually CORRECT for a change. Well done.
@fortuner123
@fortuner123 6 ай бұрын
Excellent. Informative. Fast. No waffle. Well done.
@Apismeliffera
@Apismeliffera 3 ай бұрын
Re stripping insulation @ 02:04. I always strip the insulation from the opposite side of the tool. The force needed to pull the insulation off is less. The tool you show, works well for this purpose when you use the right size hole. I worked as an assembler in an electrical and electronic factory for years. They always bought AMP brand terminals. We were supplied AMP brand crimping tools. Never had one of my crimped on terminals pull off the end of the wire. Like you said, the right tool for the job.
@willswanderings6912
@willswanderings6912 Ай бұрын
So do I. It makes more sense to use a flat surface up against the flat edge of the cut insulation. Why try to pull the insulation off with an angled surface that is going to have a natural tendency to try to ride up over the flat edge of the insulation, which will result in the insulation not being all the way off?
@thomasdsmith7678
@thomasdsmith7678 5 ай бұрын
40 years as an ASE Master and no one ever showed me the proper use of the guides on the crimper tools, or the two different crimper positions. Thanks..
@justaguy4real
@justaguy4real 2 ай бұрын
Dude, this is one of the best most well explained video instructionals I've ever heard/seen. You answered the questions as I was thinking them. This is how teaching and training should be; you are the epitome of what works. Great job, and if your other videos are this good and thorough, you've got another subscriber in me for sure. *to everyone else, take heed to this guy's tutorial, its superb and I am a very tough judge about giving out kudos like this.
@kellygb9278
@kellygb9278 2 ай бұрын
I agree & I appreciate you sharing the knowledge, but please slow down on the hand waving, a bit hard to take - Thanks
@d32b44
@d32b44 3 ай бұрын
FINALLY ! THANK YOU!! only vid I've seen that explaines where the gap should be
@bsimpson6204
@bsimpson6204 2 ай бұрын
From a guy who has cripped many thousands of joints, this is good advice. If you're going to do serious work, intest in a serious crimper
@jamese9283
@jamese9283 2 ай бұрын
How do you tell the difference between a serious and a cheap crimper?
@flyingsodwai1382
@flyingsodwai1382 2 ай бұрын
@@jamese9283 Well obviously the price difference. The off brand or store brand offerings are suspect. Stick with Klein or Ideal and you are safe. Snap-on or Mac if you like paying for bragging rights. Allen Bradley if you need serious Nasa level precision. Be warry of tools from across the pond, AWG and IEC60228 are not exactly the same so the crimpers might not be just right.
@jinc1636
@jinc1636 2 ай бұрын
believe me buddy u know if u knw
@jinc1636
@jinc1636 2 ай бұрын
and bart...pull my finger👉💨
@hhiippiittyy
@hhiippiittyy Ай бұрын
@@jamese9283 Get one from a reputable tool company. Klein is a good bet. Fluke or Knipex. Check forums for electricians. If you care to afford it, get something made in Germany. I had a simple Milwakee stripper-crimper for years and it was great.
@hardlyb
@hardlyb 6 ай бұрын
Good video. FYI, the reason the divet goes on the side opposite the joint is that it's quite a bit stronger on that side. There are open-barrel crimpers which make a crimp that looks a bit like using an uninsulated crimper on the joint side, but it's a very different process. You can also find uninsulated crimps which don't have a joint, so you won't need to worry about how you're crimping.
@dubmob151
@dubmob151 4 ай бұрын
If the divot was on the seam side, it would cause it to open up and not hold securely, it needs to be done on the solid side so the seam remains closed -
@user-jd9kg3pd9z
@user-jd9kg3pd9z 6 ай бұрын
James; well done. Concise and informative. I’m a retired journeyman electrician. I wish all the years of training videos I’ve watched where as well done as yours. I want to double down on what you say about the professional grade tool - that’s the way to go. The cheap tools should be avoided. Good work, Pete
@neilfromclearwaterfl81
@neilfromclearwaterfl81 5 ай бұрын
Most of those really cheap crimpers are just Crimper Shaped Devices and little else. Often those devices that mimic real tools are not designed by engineers but graphic artists so would better be viewed as tool art and nothing more. Yes there are some tools where its less critical like pliers and wrenches where close enough will do for light work however for electrical work you want a real tool capable of making a strong and safe connection Best!
@grundegrimstad4703
@grundegrimstad4703 5 ай бұрын
A trick to avoid frayed strands: Pull the insulation only half way off the end of the wire. Then rotate the little bit of insulation with your fingers several times until it screw itself off the end. Then you´re left with a beautiful, straight bundle of wires that doesn´t fray back when you try to press it through a tight hole.
@rikin6912
@rikin6912 3 ай бұрын
This is also good info...I do this when ...I remember 😂
@discombubulate2256
@discombubulate2256 5 ай бұрын
very good, excellent tutorial. just to add, crimping is very forgiving. if your wire is a little too long for example cut a tad off, same with not taking enough insulation off. always do the tug test! if the wire comes out because the crimp is too big and that's all you have don't be afraid to strip out a double length and fold the wire over making it thicker to get you out of trouble. heat shrink is good for non insulated crimps, remember to put it on first. decent crimping tools and wire strippers are not that expensive and a good investment.
@R3dRicky
@R3dRicky 3 ай бұрын
As someone who has been taught this and has to do this over hundreds of times for relaycabinets for railways you have explained this well. It is really important to get this right in applications I work on these connectors have to last over 20 years and deal with daily vibrations from trains passing by.
@colinellicott9737
@colinellicott9737 6 ай бұрын
Best vid I've seen on this, Thx. Would add one point, the insulated crimp should have a second crimp of the insulation on to the insulation. This provides a strain relief, not a seal of any kind. Thx again.
@ralanham76
@ralanham76 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting comments, I've never made these for work only for hobbies. I've made plenty of RF cable connections. This is whole nother thing.
@Chris_at_Home
@Chris_at_Home 6 ай бұрын
I worked a job doing electronics wiring in nuclear submarines in the mid 1970s. We used uninsulated lugs with a a crimp tool with a peg that was crimped on the back side opposite the barrel seam. We slide labeled spaghetti over the wire before we crimped them and slid the spaghetti over the barrel of the lug.
@robertnoble3733
@robertnoble3733 5 ай бұрын
The best terminals (from AMP or whatever they call themselves this year) have an additional metal sleeve under the insulation. With this type of terminal, the proper crimper (AMP/Whatever TetraCrimp) also crimps the insulation barrel, which forms/squeezes the additional metal sleeve around the insulation jacket, forming a strain relief.
@jerrodkeating7700
@jerrodkeating7700 5 ай бұрын
TYCO/AMP actually makes both styles. The connectors with the metal sleeve that grips the insulation are PIDG. Those without the extended metal sleeve to grip the insulation (as seen in this video) are Plasti-Grip. The trade off is that while PIDG may hold on to the wire better, they are only rated for 300V since the internal metal sleeve is closer to the exposed edge of the insulating barrel on the wire end. Plasti-Grip are rated for 600V since the internal metal sleeve is further recessed.
@Rondogardener
@Rondogardener 5 ай бұрын
To connect two wires end to end, I use an oversized tube connector and run the bare-ended wires past each other until they have a bare end exposed at each end of the connector and then double each end back so the ends are not exposed. Then I crimp the wires as recommended and make sure that the doubled "knots" in the insulated tube are also crimped. This virtually eliminates the wires coming apart.
@radiorob
@radiorob 5 ай бұрын
Well done. Precise and concise. When doing non insulated terminals I remember my electronics instructor saying "Saddle the Seam"
@nothankyou5524
@nothankyou5524 2 ай бұрын
Nicely done. Very nicely done. Its amazing how much much can slip by when you dont do something often. Or often enough.
@johnpowell5433
@johnpowell5433 6 ай бұрын
Quick, clear, and concise. Great video.
@sandersonstunes
@sandersonstunes Ай бұрын
Back at an older job I had in manufacturing, small business making custom electronics, I was making these crimped terminals then I added a little solder to the tip of the copper sticking out the end there. This insured the wire would never pull out. We did other custom mods to cabling like adding hot glue strain relief to a LCD display cable that we kept finding the tiny pins getting pulled out. A couple times I had to splice USB cables to get the right connector on one end. It didn’t look pretty but it worked.
@ironsmith9769
@ironsmith9769 3 ай бұрын
i've never got a better crimp with a pro tool than i've got with knippex pliers wrench. i had several tools from stamped to forged to ratcheting and not only did i get a better crimp from the pliers wrench but the pliers wrench is also much more useful for other tasks.
@mariusdiaconescu5096
@mariusdiaconescu5096 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the explanations. Now I understand how this thing works!
@martialme84
@martialme84 6 ай бұрын
This is a very good explanation. Thank you for making this video!
@koruoverland
@koruoverland 2 ай бұрын
What a flex to throw some Knipex on the table! Awesome video mate!
@solarsynapse
@solarsynapse 6 ай бұрын
The stripper should be for stranded wire as they are slightly larger than strippers for solid wire. If you must use a solid stripper on stranded, move to the next larger size to avoid damaging strands.
@MMuraseofSandvich
@MMuraseofSandvich 3 ай бұрын
A reputable pair of strippers (e.g. Hozan) will clearly mark which part of the jaws should be for solid or stranded wire of a particular gauge.
@wyattoneable
@wyattoneable 5 ай бұрын
Excellent information. I'm terrible at this so maybe this will help me make better crimps.
@davebing11
@davebing11 6 ай бұрын
One of the best videos on crimping that I have ever seen! Professional crimpers are often $300 to $500 each and for only one family of connectors. Its not unusual for a shop to have several thousand dollars invested in crimpers. To get repeatable reliable crimps usually require the crimp mfg crimpers.
@TheEvertw
@TheEvertw 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Especially the comment about not being afraid to pull on the connectors to check them. If properly crimped, you should not be able to pull them off by hand.
@baka-baka-baka-baka
@baka-baka-baka-baka 6 ай бұрын
Fam, don't forget to crimp the insulation too! That insulation often serves a purpose, and it can pull out of the crimp's sleeve if the right forces are applied, especially if it has some amount of elasticity (ex: silicone insulated wires). Then shorts are possibles. I also wish the dot codes were explained. I was wondering about those. Thank you for explaining these things. Crimped connections can be REALLY good, but they do come with "operator error" type caveats. Other possible topics worth covering in a comprehensive crimping vid: * Solid core wire * Watertight terminals * Soldering of crimped terminals * Mechanism of crimps and WHY they are good (like how good crimps can cold-fuse or cold-weld wires in the crimp) * Dot codes * Terminal types besides red/blue/yellow terminals, ex: PCB headers and powerpole. * Different lug (terminal connection) types: ring, spade/fork, butt, splice, disconnect, pin, PCB header, etc. IMO, _flanged_ spade/tongue/fork terminals don't get enough love! (That's where there's a little bend at the end of the fork tines that help lock it in place, so it's more secure than a normal fork/spade, without the inconvenience of a ring connection.) * Practices for residential power wiring. (Here in the US it is possible to use crimped connections for this, but it comes with caveats about using UL-listed terminals and compatible devices (supposedly). Then there are those really cool "grounding pigtails" that use stranded wire and have a ring terminal and ground screw on one end, and a flanged spade terminal on the other end. I tried providing a link, but I think KZfaq rejects my comment if I put links.) * Use cases: when crimping is or isn't appropriate and why
@mkuehn5450
@mkuehn5450 5 ай бұрын
you're confusing the cheap color coding with proper heat shrink / glue strain relief. with those cheap connectors, i usually throw away the plastic and crimp then solder the joint. it's about keeping air and corrosion off of connections, plus ampacity, the ability to carry an electrical load. strain relief is nearly an entirely different video.
@baka-baka-baka-baka
@baka-baka-baka-baka 5 ай бұрын
​@@mkuehn5450 No confusion here. What's proper for strain relief is circumstantial (and yes, it can be a complicated subject). Depending on what you mean, I might not even talking about strain relief. Rather, I am specifically talking about a feature of the color coded crimp-on terminals that are intended for use with insulated wires. The color-coded crimps have a wide end and a narrow end. The narrow end has the metal smashy bit in it and the ring/spade/plug/pin/etc comes out of the narrow end. The wide end is... empty. The wire is inserted into the wide end, with the exposed conductor travelling all the way through and barely out of the other side (narrow end). When stripped to the correct length, pushing the wire in will cause it to stop when the insulation meets the metal smashy bit (and it does not go into it, only the exposed conductor goes through that). So the insulation occupies the wide side of the connector, and the bare conductor occupies the narrow side. The matching/corresponding ratcheting crimp tool will have a die in it (usually with 3 sizes of crimp cut into the die) that is asymmetrical: a narrow side and a wide side. The narrow end of the connector is supposed to go into the smaller/narrower side of the die, and the wide end of the connector is supposed to go into the bigger/wider side of the die. When the crimper closes on the connector, it crushes BOTH ends, thus fusing the exposed conductor to the metal in the narrow end of the connector, while also pinching the insulation with the connector's plastic sleeve. If we do not have a ratcheting crimp tool, then we can accomplish the same thing by crimping the narrow side and the wide side individually. Either way, the wide end of color-coded crimp connectors is definitely supposed to grab the wire's insulation and prevent it from travelling away from the connection. This function of "prevent the insulation from moving away from the connection" might be strain relief (depending on who you're asking), but it isn't as broad as everything that strain relief might be. Examples: strain relief also refers to the little rubber mold near the plug-end of various cords, whose purpose is to avoid the wire from being bent too tightly while it is plugged in and thus reduce the amount of damage caused to the metallic conductors by repeated metal deformation while the wire is moved. In residential electrical work, at least in the US, strain relief could (for example) refer to the screw-down clamp connectors that we are required to install on metallic junction boxes wherever NM (Romex) cable enters such a box. These transfer any tension (pulling) on the wire away from the connections in the box, and into the connector and box itself, and possibly into the structure that the box is fastened onto. (Also, if the wire comes loose, it is less likely to end up having its jacket+insulation shredded from being scrapped against the sharp sides of the knock-out, possibly while energized.) Insulation retention, bend restriction, tension transfer: these are all distinctly different functions that I've variously seen described as "strain relief". (Sorry if that's a bit too much explanation. But I at least wanted to explain why I am intentionally avoiding the term "strain relief": it's because that term can mean so many different things to different people.) I do wonder what would cause corrosion problems such that you would feel the need to put solder over a crimped connection. Battery terminals? Marine air? Industrial chemicals?
@ceeweedsl
@ceeweedsl 5 ай бұрын
@@baka-baka-baka-baka Very good. I didn't think about crimping the hard plastic onto the wire insulation. But I always substitute heat shrink for that plastic anyway. It seems that you are coming from a building electrician's perspective in climate friendly environments but these connectors are often used in automotive and exterior (pump box for example) conditions and corrosion resistance is important. We live on a tropical coast and I coat any screw terminals in boxes in no-ox or grease as well. The typical AC wire used is stranded here and it is not unusual to open a ten year old box and find some of the copper strands corroded away. I should probably start using spade lugs and heat shrink on them.
@baka-baka-baka-baka
@baka-baka-baka-baka 5 ай бұрын
@@ceeweedsl My experience is a pretty mixed grab-bag of things, including some building electrical. But yeah, mostly (if not entirely) in friendly climate. I am aware of the problems posed by coastal air and I am glad that I haven't had to deal with that. Smothering everything in grease (e.g. silicone/dialectric) sounds like something I would do in that situation. Indeed, sometimes I do that anyways, just to be properly overkill for things that need to be very permanent and last a long time. I like stranded wire a lot, but it is probably a lot more vulnerable to corrosion. That sounds tough. Perhaps there is a silver lining in that corrosion can at least be mitigated, though at some cost of effort+components+supplies.
@stoker20
@stoker20 3 ай бұрын
Last week I did a solderless connector. Carefully crimped all the way around with Waldom pliers, then I soldered at the tip of the wire. I heated the mashed plastic on the connector and it reformed itself into a like new unsmashed shape. Surprised the heck out of me.
@tookitogo
@tookitogo Ай бұрын
Never, ever combine soldering and crimping. Soldering does not improve a properly-done crimp, but weakens the assembly by wicking up the wire. Indeed, the insulation on most insulated terminals is polyolefin, the same material as ordinary heat-shrink tubing.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 6 ай бұрын
Good job! I'm not a fan of crimps but they really are a necessary evil and very dependant on the quality of both the tool and connector.
@dougaltolan3017
@dougaltolan3017 6 ай бұрын
A properly made crimp is a cold weld, far superior to soldering or screw terminals.
@solarsynapse
@solarsynapse 6 ай бұрын
Nichrome wire won't solder, and if it did, the solder would melt.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 6 ай бұрын
@@solarsynapse Correct, nichrome and kanthol aren't well suited for soldering as far as I know.
@dougaltolan3017
@dougaltolan3017 6 ай бұрын
@@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 Ahh, heating elephants.. Crimp (cold weld), or spot weld. Esoteric solders can be used, along with esoteric fluxes and cleaning.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 6 ай бұрын
@@dougaltolan3017 Yes, I think we're talking about brazing. Spot welding seems to be applicable as well, probably more common.
@johnduffy6546
@johnduffy6546 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video. I never knew this information. Thank you!
@mohsinrasul8450
@mohsinrasul8450 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Very clear video Always struggled with these
@graham2631
@graham2631 5 ай бұрын
Good coverage of the proper technique. Personally, l hate insulated connectors for two reasons, there 10x the cost of non-insulated ones. More important, it's too easy not to use enough force and have a loose connection. I believe non-insulated and shrink-wrap is best.
@victorriceroni8455
@victorriceroni8455 6 ай бұрын
Well, thank you. I will use this to improve the quality of my work.
@ianxtreem
@ianxtreem 10 күн бұрын
Excellent video. Clear and concise.
@clermos1034
@clermos1034 7 ай бұрын
Thanx for sharing I fixed my light you saved me big $$$$$
@Cowboy_Steve
@Cowboy_Steve 4 ай бұрын
Well done - I found this video extremely informative and helpful. Thanks for sharing! 🤠
@mermaid10x
@mermaid10x 6 ай бұрын
Personally I hate those hard plastic insulated crimps so I prefer to use heat shrink over non insulated connector. I’m not building airplanes etc but it works for my purposes because I can see exactly how good the crimp is before I cover it. My favourite crimps are the splicing non insulated ones for joining wires together. If done properly the wire will break before the crimp fails.
@alexanderSydneyOz
@alexanderSydneyOz 6 ай бұрын
And if one was building aeroplanes, or anything critical, you *definitely* would not be using these connectors! They are weak and prone to coming apart.
@youngsuk3329
@youngsuk3329 8 ай бұрын
Tks for sharing and educating us
@oxxnarrdflame8865
@oxxnarrdflame8865 6 ай бұрын
Good video, I learned some new things. Unfortunately after doing somethings wrong. 😊
@cesarurrea8236
@cesarurrea8236 3 ай бұрын
love this video, so basic but very important, I been using this connector for years and didnt know this, thank you. PD. I have a cheap crimp tool
@clmn6712
@clmn6712 5 ай бұрын
In my years of working on machinery I have crimped thousands of terminals and whether it's an insulated or non-insulated terminal I always use the non-insulated crimper to set the wire tight and securely in the terminal. I have also had to teach more than one 'professional' that it does matter and you can't use the non-insulated crimper upside down.
@jameslmorehead
@jameslmorehead 5 ай бұрын
You crimp non-insulated terminals on the back side if the seam of the terminal's barrel have been soldered or welded. If you deform either of these joints, you greatly weaken them. If you have a non-soldered or welded barrel, then the crimp indent goes on the seam to ensure the tightest connection. And those 12 in 1 pliers are worthless. Spend the $30 to 40 to get a decent pair of strippers and a ratcheting crimper. The head on the crimpers does not need to be one of those swap-able type. Just a simple indention works, even on insulated terminals. Just add a small piece of heat shrink, which should be done most of the time anyway for strain relief. For the non-insulated terminals, look at using double insulated heat shrink. The LDPE lining gets into all the small spaces and makes the connection much less prone to failure.
@hhiippiittyy
@hhiippiittyy Ай бұрын
I've done a lot of crimping, and in my applications I find the non-insulated crimper works best for both. I also give the strands a slight twist.
@Bigbore57
@Bigbore57 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks for doing this.
@alhampton1211
@alhampton1211 6 ай бұрын
The actual squeezing process should be accomplished by first inserting the connector into the crimper device so it can be held firmly (with your hand) in the squeeze position. Then, you can insert the wire tip into the connector exactly where you want it, then simply squeeze the handle. If one inserts the wire into the crimp, and then applies the crimper tool, there is much more opportunity to inadvertently allow the wire position to be altered, resulting in an improper crimp result. This process is even more useful when having to make a crimp in a close quarter area.
@general5104
@general5104 5 ай бұрын
Been there, done that. Excellent advice.
@k.b.tidwell
@k.b.tidwell 5 ай бұрын
I agree completely, and when you're crimping large cables like the 2/0 on heavy trucks and equipment, maneuvering all of the moving pieces into the correct spots can be a trial if you don't place the terminal in the tool FIRST and then insert the wire. With heavy wire often you have to orient the ends for correct alignment on the equipment because if the wire is shorter you a lot of times don't have enough "twist" to compensate for misalignment, so making sure the terminal stays angled how you want it is important.
@chuckg2016
@chuckg2016 6 ай бұрын
Great info and a great presentation.
@thanapatrachartburut513
@thanapatrachartburut513 8 ай бұрын
Yes . This is what everybody should see.
@james_gatlin
@james_gatlin 8 ай бұрын
👌🏼
@russellstephan6844
@russellstephan6844 6 ай бұрын
Oh God! This is like starting an oil ritual thread on *_any_* motohead forum... After four decades of riding street bikes hundreds of thousands of miles, dirt bikes for thousands of hours, cars and trucks owned for multiple decades, power equipment run forever, and welding and power cable construction, with never a wiring fix/modification/improvement failure, I can tell you what works for me. I remove the little plastic ferrule with a heat gun. The wire is lightly crimped to the terminal, the wire and terminal are soldered, and two to three layers of heat shrink tubing are used to provide the necessary stress relief of the joint. If the application needs to be weatherized, the first layer of heat shrink tubing will be of the self-gluing kind. This is what works and works well for me being provided as only information, not as a declaration of the *_only_* way. Obviously, if what works for you, works, fantastic! Although, given the number of used items I've bought and repaired over the decades, most don't do what works either way...
@DelticEngine
@DelticEngine 6 ай бұрын
I do likewise in removing the plastic ferrule, soldering and then using heatshrink tubing. If you have the soldering skill then this is the best way to go. Even 'proper' crimps where the wire is deformed and there is a gas-tight seal in the crimp go bad over time. Moisture capillaries its way towards into the joint and the physical action of corrosion starts to make it less gas-tight and start to fail. Only soldering prevents this from happening. Some car manufacturers do this kind of thing as standard to ensure a solid and reliable connection for the life of the vehicle.
@BTW...
@BTW... 6 ай бұрын
@@DelticEngine Only soldering wicks up the conductor creating a stress fracture failure point. Quality crimp lugs actually crimp down on the insulation aside the electrical connection point. If the 'ratchet' crimper has identical die profiles for connection and insulated ends it's junk, probably sold to motor mechanics who don't know better.
@1hjehje
@1hjehje 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! This is an excellent video.
@hernansantamaria6384
@hernansantamaria6384 6 ай бұрын
Thanks ....vary valuable information...keep doing more like that....rookies like me appreciate it😊
@user-sz3xn8el6i
@user-sz3xn8el6i 2 ай бұрын
Well. You learn something new everyday.
@eugene5438
@eugene5438 6 ай бұрын
Outstanding tutorial!
@vegas1854
@vegas1854 2 ай бұрын
Succint and to the point. Excellent video. Very imformative.
@antelopeslr5000
@antelopeslr5000 4 ай бұрын
If you want consistency when terminating terminals like these, get yourself a Daniels DMC HX4 tool with a Y501 die set. I highly recommend them. Expensive? Hell yes, but they are the bomb! As an Avionics Technician, I’ve used them for 25 years in the Defence Aerospace industry and I doubt you’ll find yourself a better crimping tool for the job.
@alanb287
@alanb287 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, this is very helpful!
@markae0
@markae0 6 ай бұрын
Your teaser photo of four crimps is not explained in the video. I was expecting an explanation of what was wrong with the crimps in the photo teaser.
@james_gatlin
@james_gatlin 6 ай бұрын
Your right, it would have been useful to show examples of incorrect crimps, it was indirectly explained, first one is to small, second is crimped on the wrong side, and the third it to large, its just a thumbnail though, thanks for the comment, future videos will elaborate more
@sidstevens9035
@sidstevens9035 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Well done !
@Atetus94
@Atetus94 6 ай бұрын
Very good presentation :)
@mondavou9408
@mondavou9408 3 ай бұрын
Short and to the point. I agree, buy the better tool, its double the price but it doesn't spoil and its worth it.
@Plutouz
@Plutouz Ай бұрын
the klein ratcheting crimpers are great!
@vwlowen
@vwlowen 5 ай бұрын
With insulated terminals, I was taught to lightly crimp over the wire's insulation in addition to the full "hard" crimp over the metal part. I've always asumed it was to add s little extra support to the actual crimp but I've never found a video which does it. I guess I was doing it wrong for 40 years :)
@tellyfaulkner3466
@tellyfaulkner3466 5 ай бұрын
I do that as well and for the same reasoning.
@eekee6034
@eekee6034 5 ай бұрын
I can think of 2 ways it might help, but I don't see either helping very much. It could make the insulation act like a light strain relief sleeve if the wire gets yanked sideways to the connector. It might make the insulation support the wire in tension, but I guess the insulation is always too elastic to help.
@cannesahs
@cannesahs 4 ай бұрын
You were doing it correctly
@poly_hexamethyl
@poly_hexamethyl 5 ай бұрын
3:41 I second the advice of not using the cheapest crimp tools. I had one for years and could never figure out why I could never get a good crimp and always ended having to solder my terminals afterwards, since the wire could easily be pulled out otherwise.
@ianbelletti6241
@ianbelletti6241 6 ай бұрын
You had too much conductor sticking out of the bolt side of your crimps. That amount of conductor will affect the screw connection. Also, try to avoid crimping these connectors to solid wire. They tend to not bind well with the solid conductor causing them to slip off too easily. One last thing, you violate the listing of these crimp connectors by drilling out the holes for use with bigger bolts. Get the correct connector for your application rather than modifying them.
@My-Pal-Hal
@My-Pal-Hal 6 ай бұрын
Ah yes. KZfaq is a Lawsuit Waiting To Happen 😂 I think that was what you're trying to say. ... from an aerospace guy
@BigKelvPark
@BigKelvPark 6 ай бұрын
@@My-Pal-Hal You probably would be using PIDG amp terminals with the correct tool rather than those cheap and nasty things. lol
@My-Pal-Hal
@My-Pal-Hal 6 ай бұрын
@@BigKelvPark Well, I'm an old aerospace guy. So I learned long ago, about getting stuff right the first time 😂 And some the stuff you see on KZfaq is just Scary !!! ... we're doomed A decent pair of Kliens is about all you need around the house though 😏 🖖
@cristianstoica4544
@cristianstoica4544 6 ай бұрын
This was intentional. But for other reasons. It was bound to happen that we will notice and some of us (hopefully many) will comment on it. The side effect would be to drive up the engagement factor for the almighty algorithm.
@ianbelletti6241
@ianbelletti6241 6 ай бұрын
@@cristianstoica4544 I'm a professional electrician and had to correct the one mistake that he made and add information that he missed but is important. Occasionally I run into situations where I have to crimp a connector to solid wire and I've found it to be a pain in the ass because no matter how hard you try to get a good crimp there's a high failure rate on solid wire. The drilling of the connector for a bigger bolt is another common mistake by the inexperienced.
@danielboughton3624
@danielboughton3624 6 ай бұрын
Note that this does not cover all cases. Shrink wrap connectors require a different die set as do small computer pin connectors. These standard plastic covered connectors are common but are not the only game around. Automotive pin connectors for a harness have a separate die as well that folds the 2 parts of the pin separately. Non-ratched multi-purpose crimpers are generally junk. There are some pro versions that are alright but the cost of ratchet crimpers plus dies are competitive in price with pro non-ratchet versions. Better ratchet versions will be adjustable and not all die sets are created equal.
@flyingsodwai1382
@flyingsodwai1382 2 ай бұрын
I am an industrial service electrician and I approve of this video 😜 . ( although to be persnickety there was to much conductor pushed past the barrel on the blue crimp. It'll have to be bent out of the way to not get under the washer on the terminal making it look all ratty and haphazard.) Great editing on the video though, keep up the good work!
@leapnlarry
@leapnlarry 8 ай бұрын
Your videos remind me of chrisfix videos. Good job, im surprised your videos dont have more views. Larry
@rjw7058
@rjw7058 5 ай бұрын
nice tut, why on the insulated connector would you have the wire exposed beyond the plastic sleeve? would that not b a possible short circuit zone? also, where are non insulated connectors used? thnx
@jackfarrell4727
@jackfarrell4727 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the information, it had to be said.
@NO-background-music-in-videos.
@NO-background-music-in-videos. 5 ай бұрын
Yes , Yes and YES... Thank you for what you did here
@MrConspark
@MrConspark 6 ай бұрын
Great video, very good for beginners and tradies who may not have ever learnt this methods. As an auto sparky, having done thousands of these over the years, I'd recommend the ratchet crimpers, which aren't as expensive these days and save your wrists later in life 😁👍
@kazparzyxzpenualt8111
@kazparzyxzpenualt8111 6 ай бұрын
Non gap side... got it. Thanks!
@ppheanix
@ppheanix 2 ай бұрын
Great tutorial ! You did not mention that some people twist the wires before crimping and why this is not a good idea.
@karmudeen
@karmudeen 5 ай бұрын
Hi I really enjoyed your video. Can you do one with the crimp tool with interchangeable jaws?
@thillaiambalam5661
@thillaiambalam5661 3 ай бұрын
Plain and easy to understand 👏👍
@dannyscarpati7049
@dannyscarpati7049 2 ай бұрын
that is the correct way to crimp non insulated terminals, thats all i ever use with a bit of heat shrink
@cecilm3720
@cecilm3720 6 ай бұрын
Very helpful. Thank you.
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