UK Gov: you will own nothing and be happy

When we have flying cars one day.. Scooters will still be illegal.. 😂😂😂

Simple answer. Paint your scooter the same colour as one of these companies that hires them out.

How can riding your own e-scooter be illegal, yet riding a e-bike is legal ?!?!? Bastards !!!

That is blatantly saying "You cannot own one, you have to give your money to someone else if you wish to ride one". That's like we're in a dictatorship.

So privately cleaning my scooter to prevent a virus and staying away from people is prohibited if I decide to ride that. But sharing an e scooter with loads of people possibly spreading germs is nuts but yet permitted by UK government and that's all they're accepting how does that make any sense

I say, all private scooter owners should meet outside downing street and protest for a month

My view is the government don’t want people to have transport they cannot make money from. There is no difference between mobility scooters on the pavement wizzing past and scooters, both are motor vehicles. And no I don’t own one or use one. But I can see the practical applications of them.

Government: owned scooters are illegal Toycat: hahahhaha scooter go brrrrrrrrrrrr

i’m scared of what people will do with toycat saying “daddy transport secretary”

Basically as long as the establishment has its hands in your pocket it is legal if they aren’t helping themselves to your earnings it’s illegal

There is some very backwards logic here, on par with holding salmon suspiciously.

Could you not just "make your own scooter company" and "rent the scooter" to yourself

Is it just me, or is anyone else getting super anxious hearing him just ramble in front of strangers

The counterfeiter mind within me immediately goes "Buy an overpowered scooter and mod it to look pretty much identical to a Lime Scooter"...

dodging the law ft. Toycat

If I was you I would ride my own e scooter and if I see feds quickly push it like it's a normal scooter 💯

People who own PEV's usually ride so much more responsibly, use safety gear, helmets, reflective vests, additional lights and etc. people on rentals, no helmets, no any other safety gear, and tons of random riding, diving into streets, between people and specially kids on these. Anyway it is funny to pass people on Xiaomi's and rentals in bike lanes via bicycle peddling at 20 mph.

I bought an escooter to use to get to work and back last year. Parking was banned at work and parking in town costs £400+ a year and buying the scooter just made sense. I haven’t been stopped and have been passed by a few police cars when going home. Fingers crossed!

World Economic Forum: "you will own nothing and be happy." Search the great reset.

Listen, privately owned e-scooters will NOT be made legal until the government work out a way to tax the owner/rider. If everyone rides a scooter, the government will be losing tax from fuel not bought therefore not getting tax from it. The government will never allow people to have tax free transport. It's as simple as that!

I'm waiting for the day when we need registration plates for our skateboards..............not long now.... Then I'll be waiting for the day when we need to insure our socks and shoes.............to walk on public roads that is.........not necessary for operating your shoes on private property.

What licence do you need to become a hire company ? Or do you just bribe an M.P.

When all of this is over ride a scooter from South Africa to the most eastern part of Russia

To be honest, most places in the outskirts of London aren’t really enforcing it, I’ve been riding mine around for well over a year now and police drive past me fairly frequently, I just don’t ride the scooter like a dickhead, I even have a few pals with them too and we were going for lots of rides together before the pandemic, plan to again soon as we can!

in a pandemic lets share escooters🤷‍♂️ no thanks🤮

4 minutes long I have been wondering why he was driving on the left side of the road until I realized that he is in the UK XD

I'm in NE rural Scotland. I got pulled by police on my 350w scooter, the officers I dealt with weren't bothered as I wasn't being stupid, they were looking for someone else thankfully. I'm now so confident I bought the Kugoo M4 Pro, Always wear safety gear with e scooters

Our government in a nutshell: What u doing ? Oh just using this thing bought YOU GOT A LICENCE TO BE DOING THAT

Fun fact in Milton Keynes if the path is red or brown you can ride a bike on it and also if it has yellow bollards

They say these are categorised as "motor vehicles" yet uninsureable , so what category are they under the government will not say , but ban a category that apparently doesn't exist.

It only become a “motor vehicle” when exceeding 15mps anything before that is simply the same as a pedal bike and most scooter unless hacked are limited to 15mps for that very reason!

Illegal to own, legal to rent is something we need to stop.

This is why I like living in America. And not just this specific incident. All around the UK and the rest of Europe there are stupid "beurocracy loops" that prohibit you from doing things that were previously legal and aren't necessarily meant to be illegal, but are because two different beurus have laws that contradict each other. These exist here too but I feel like I hear more about them overseas.

10 years ago: Murdering is illegal Now: owning a scooter is illegal.

Its got nothing to do with safety. I can hit closer to 30mph on a bicycle and do alot more damage to pedestrians but thats legal?

I ride around on my Zero 11x at 40mph everywhere. It can go 70mph but I would definitely die. I got a ninebot max too but that is my pub scooter. Not much need for that nowadays.

Crazy how you can still cycle with out needing any licence- I have definitely done some dangerous stuff on the road on my bike

Is there a loophole in the law where you can rent it from somebody you know?

Sounds like the great reset, you will own nothing but be happy. !!!!!!!!!

Push bikes are far more dangerous IMO. This law makes no sence!

If they Legally allowed Scooters it will be the Death of TFL Why would you ever catch a Bus 🤔

Fact of the matter is they dont want people to stop using their cars or public transport, they know cycling will only have minimal uptake because of the physical effort required, especially for commuting,decent ebikes are still very expensive, awkward to take on public transport and harder to secure at your destination etc, scooters are very cheap, easily transportable, can be taken to your desk i.e. harder for ppl to pinch they are nimble and are a perfect safe way to commute and just get about generally, however they cant tax them, there is no registration, no insurance, no expensive fuel or tyres or servicing etc etc. Under this Pandemic they had every reason to with the swipe of a pen simply enable their legal use over night, in large cities and towns taking people out of buses cars and trains but no, rather than expand everyones freedoms they have taken everyones freedoms away, yesterday weve been informed we are allowed to hug our loved ones in May? yup the arrogance the government has to think they have the right to tell you when you can hug your loved ones? They will never make them legal to use without number plates, tax, insurance and MOT, they will make all electrically powered devices meet the same criteria, ebikes and e scooters will need plates, tax and insurance, we may have got Brexit but I fear that the government will just use this as en excuse to take freedom from us and not to unsnare us from restrictions that the EU have put upon everyone.

Tape your e-scooter blue add "DOTT to the front fork. You got yourself a rental scooter 👍 I wouldn't have stopped, switch on sports mode and bolt! I'd wear earphones and say I didn't hear/see anything.

Tbh I agree with the new for a diving licence and stopping people driving on pavements. It should be the same with mobility scooters. People drive those stupid and at speed aswell.

This law isn't to protect or help the public, its basically to extract rental cash from us and screw your freedom to travel cheaply ,cleanly and safely. The law is an arse.

There is an act that I used in court to dismiss “ no insurance no license no MOT . The alternatively fuelled vehicles provision electrical power vehicles exempt from UK License requirement, NO classification or Prerequisite

Bless the YT algorithm for this. I live in Canada in a place where they rolled out the E-scooter sharing thing in 2018/2019. Much of the language in the media leading up to the E-scooter "legalization" conveniently hid the fact that this was solely only for rentals. I was really annoyed to see that rentals were the only way of riding e-scooters legally, but riding your own is illegal because the government has not paved for a way to be legal. Sure they are dubbed as "pilot projects" with timeframes, but it's a bad policy imo to simply restrict them to just rentals. Renting vs Owning completely different and to have the future of riding a privately owned scooter onto a dataset based on rentals is absurd IMO. Rentals bring a whole host of issues that really turn people against e-scooters and it's just unfathomable how politicians even think this is remotely a good idea. What this comes down to is companies having a monopoly on a mode of transport. Imagine governments back then doing the same thing for automobiles.

Been waiting since 2017 e scooters to become legal in Uk and since last year I bought one and enjoyed for over 600 miles , no trouble with police but been stopped two days ago and advised friendly by a pretty police officer not to ride it anymore or risk £300 fine and scooter seized. She was super cool but I know the next one may not be, e bike is the way to go and wait until they legalise these

I've got a Zoom Stryder GT. I've had a couple of "hairy" moments but it's often due to other people being an idiot. I've felt far more comfortable and safe on my scooter than I do on a bike because I can comfortably accelerate out of the path of dangers and can slow down and escape danger quickly. Also, if you do come off, you're not tied into the frame of the thing like on a bike. They should be legal.

I'm a keyworker for a local hospital and I was stopped on my way to work and had my scooter confiscated leaving no choice but to walk the rest of the way. I had to pay to collect my scooter from the vehicle pound. They are unisurable apparently and categorised as a motor vehicle, BUT WHAT CATEGORY A GREY CATEGORY THAT DOESN'T EXIST.

Im looking to buy a rion re 90 and if the boys in fancy dress think they will take it,there will be a problem...

Riding on the road has to be more dangerous - drivers won’t expect to see a scooter trundling along at 10 or 15 miles an hour, especially around roundabouts, which normally have trees on them for some strange reason, meaning we can’t see over them

Totally bonkers law

It's the same thing, ONE can shop in the supermarket BUT NOT allowed to walk in open air in the park.

Good point, the rental service is currently acting as trialling for the potential legalisation of all e scooters capped @ 25kmh , its a perfect last mile solution for daily transport where a bicycle isn't a good solution, bikes don't fit easily into most cars , bikes worth more than a cupl of hundred quid get stolen never to be seen again when locked up outside city centers & workplaces, creating more unsolvable crime . E scooters are compact enough to not only fit into most car boots , but taken into offices & stored/ charged under the desk , saving vehicle congestion & parking charges . Its a perfect solution 👌 the government just need to do the right thing now & put them in the electric cycle category

I have an ebike which is great, don't think id trust myself on one of these though. Also it's mental not allowing them on bike lanes! Only thing is with scooters if you hit a pot hole in the road and you won't see it if it's been raining your basically dead!!

I am so sorry you had to go to milton keynes

That's so corrupt lol. You can only rent a beat up used scooter, but you can't drive your own that you take care of and ensure it's safe.

UK gov want to go zero carbon emissions and stop people driving unnecessarily, but then want to stop electric bikes and scooters 🤷🏻‍♀️

it's kind of scary when Toycat is at a place where you have been to many times before hahahah

andrew its too late for e scooters right now i am going to go to sleep

"Rentable scooters you can rent in pretty much any scooter across the UK" -ibxtoycat, 2021

LOL 😂 that’s a good idea make your own rental company even ? Wish they make them legal soon Andy, wanted to use them for deliveroo and Uber eats but don’t know if it’s worth it

It's all bout' the money my friend. All bout' the money 🙄

I personally think they're brilliant as a Car owner you're not liable if you hit them and they reduce traffic jams

Id say either treat them like an E-bike or allow them to go at a faster speed and require people to do a CBT course, like the one you need to do when you get a motorbike with a provisional. Clearly not knowing the highway code is putting you and others in danger.

So basically they’re cheap, eco friendly and convenient but only if the government can make money from them

Then the simple answer is "rent it of yourself" that's using logic and reason, or should I say logic with reason. Now, how much should I charge myself?

Nobody is going to take my scooter without a fight.

I’m now doing a long term rental in Bristol for £35 a month it’s way cheaper then the bus

I was told by transport police, if ride like an idiot, they will enforce. When at night , wear hi-vis , use your lights and don't go through red lights . Pretty simple really.

Imagine if someone heard him say “I have broken the rule here”

This video was SO on point.. I made another account just to give this a second like 👍😎

I went through this some time ago when I owned The Pedshed in Aldershot. I was in court all the time & they never got to fine me. The case of Burns v Currell (1963) has become the standard case to apply when asking whether a vehicle is intended for use on the road. It would appear that the vehicle would have to be used more than once before something such as an off road scramble bike could be considered to be a motor vehicle unless the owner adapted it for on road use for example by the fitting of lights and road tyres. Clearly you bicycle was intended for road use. You can ride a go-cart on the road & they can't touch you! when they stop you tell them you have lost your mind & walk out of court.

If it bothers you about the license thing then just ride an EUC they come under the category of toy so you won't get points for riding one of those so long as it is the single wheel not the double wheel version. The law states two wheels, so an EUC has one wheel which makes them legal as toys but not legal to ride on the road. Technically as the law stands even push chairs are illegal to use on the pavement, roller skates and kick scooters all illegal to use on the pavement. Those electric kids cars, again illegal to use on the pavement and the little kids could technically in law be given a driving license ban for riding them on the pavement, kids electric scooters that you see lots of kids riding, yes again technically illegal to use on the pavement and those kids could get a license ban for riding them on the pavement. Kids bikes have been given a grace, so long as the kid riding it is under 14 they can ride them on the pavement, but not roller skates or kick scooters only bikes. The laws in the UK regarding pavement use is ridiculous, a disabled scooter can use the pavement legally but only up to a certain speed restriction, then they must use the road where they are only allowed to travel at 12 mph so the rented escooters go slower than a disability scooter. Ebikes are allowed to go 15.5 mph but that's only under EU law, UK law is 15 mph, virtually all Ebikes go around 20 mph and it would be hard to find an Ebike that actually stuck to the legal UK law of 15 mph. The law they keep banging on about is the 1837 law on the use of what they call a carriage, under that law pretty much everything including pushchairs and buggies are illegal to use on the pavement and in days of old people used to push their babies in the road.

Dang I gotta get me one of those

ok I am registered Disabled I have dla a blue badge etc etc , what is to say my 2 wheel scooter is not my disability transport , any law says a disability scooter must have at least 3 wheels ?

I've owned my scooter for 18months. Seen plenty of police, never been stopped.

I'm glad to hear it's been a bad year for cops. Hopefully it gets worse and worse.

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And beside that aren't those the ones people destroy and throw in the ocean or just leave in the middle of traffic, I doubt someone would do that to something they paid $100s of dollars for..

And when are the government going to stop making up new rules and laws, don't we think we have enough laws and rules right now.

Maybe you should use non-motor-ized scooters.

Oi mate! Ya got a loicense fer dat scootah do ya?!

There's videos on here of people in the U.S taking these rental scooters down an ally taking the GPS controller off and fitting a cheap controller from eBay.

Don't understand why it's legal to ride an e-scooter if you RENT it, but illegal to ride one if you DON'T rent it .......... which one of our £100,000 per annum parliamentary clowns came up with THAT nonsense???????

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It's more about revenue than safety! How can the authorities make money out of e-scooter riders? Rent them out! Simple⚠️👍😎😁 I'd recommend wearing gloves on that public scooter, who knows if someone had covid 19 and rode that before you?⚠️😯🤔

I find it crazy that the Uk just makes up laws. You can rent but not own….. I’m a Brit living in Germany and here you are legally obligated to make sure your scooter is registered and insured. Total cost per year, €32.50! They found a sensible solution that allows people to have a little freedom both while keeping it safe with guidelines and the government makes a bit of cash out of it too. Me and my girlfriend both own and ride our scooters and because of that we make sure the scooters are safe to ride and we both wear a helmet. Most people that rent scooters don’t even own a helmet let alone wear one.

one e scooter rider was clocked at 100Kph. That is down right insane. perhaps the reason some councils say rental scooter is legal but privately owned is not is because they get a cut from the rentals.

It's only illegal if you get caught🤣 my advise is don't buy these shitty 15mph Street pieces of crap but a 30mph off road beast that maintains 30mph on any terrain 😉

They've actually fast-tracked the trials from their intended 2021-2022 schedule to 2020-2021 to push the reclassification of e-scooters to the same or similar as EAPC bikes. If you are going to make content about such matters, be accurate.

Hello Andrew, I watched your video on the Manchester schooter ( My home town ) video and loved them ever since and I am doing your video styles but in my wheelchair and use a gorpo on my chest mount, keep up the good work and keep safe... great content!!!

Thankyou so much. Needed this clarification big time. 👏

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They can't take your licence unless it's by topping up points. I have an e-bike, but theft is a huge problem for me and the cops, a scooter gets me around exactly the same as my bike but with the ability to take the scooter into a safe location .

That is some next level government really hating you, RENTING = legal OWNING = illegal

When something is wrong and illogical, use advanced thinking and DON'T attempt to fix it in any way because the only way to get what you want is to let things get worse and worse till they inevitably U-turn.❤️😊🇬🇧