I’ve been thinking this the whole video 😂

@Wayne stevens I was thinking of taping mine up before I paint it, so when they’re eventually legal, I can just peel it off 😂

@@tiki_riot Wrap it. Any colour you like.

@@tiki_riot I know, I was thinking that right at the beginning. lol

Yep, paint it .. I actually fancy an euc though.

Give them a slap from me too 😃

Too right💪

Same here!!! The seat makes it even more incredible! We will win this one!

@XNY 1, good on you and I admire your attitude! 👍🛴

What it still boils down too is the government see it as a money maker if people have there own then no money to be made.at the end of the day nick people who are being stupid just the same as the cops would with cars.there is no diff between a rented one and an owned one.both need trust in the user on how they behave.being rented will not change that.

Wonder?

long term your knees and ankles will not be happy about it

get one with an option for a seat, or an electric bike. im young and im obsessed with E scooters, but i know when im older id want a more relaxed ride, because standing up kills the feet, ankles, knees and wrists after even a few miles.

Im 54 and i have one..for about two weeks so far..great way to get about..but watch those potholes

why did you have to say your age?

I was disappointed to read the instructions said age 16-50. Made me laugh like a motorbike should have an upper age limit too then.... It's not to be taken seriously but understand the highlighting.

I think these machines have the potential to be a great zero carbon transport type. Just need the government to set some standards and rules. Ride safe mate. 🛴

get a mobility scooter

@@jerryattheolympics1428 not fast or cool enough

Same as my dad he's 61 and it's give him a new lease on life

Do they stop you driving, riding motorbikes, cycling, rollerblading, skateboarding, flying, climbing, walking, running, listening to music, playing games, eating, drinking, browsing the web, watching KZfaq videos or talking on your phone? Oh yeah, quite clearly they don't want you having any fun at all. 🙄

@@another3997 🤡🤡🤡

Maybe they just don't want you killing pedestrians?

I think it's more a case of the government not being able to make money on it. I'm sure it all comes down to money in some way, it usually does.

@@another3997 they wish they could. Chipping away bit by bit. Don't worry, we'll get there

That's hilarious because I literally just did this today lol

I'm a cyclist and E-Scooter users are just like cyclist, most know what they're doing but there are some idiots who don't know what they're doing or don't care. We need to figure out how to regulate both honestly.

England's always "behind the times",haha...old fashioned stick in the muds.

For real the UK is always 10 years behind. They don’t see the potential. They only see it as a threat. If people use e-scooters, then less people will use buses, trains, hire bicycles/scooters then how will they make money? They always publish the negatives and how dangerous these are. The UK needs to learn how to adapt. I wish we could be less stuck in the times and look at how other countries are implementing e-scooters in a safe manner. 🙄

@@xTridentGirlx ..Well said!.. You're on the 💰....Yes,paranoia of anything new,useful,and hard to tax,.. seems to be very prevalent in" Planet" England,haha😉🤞🥂

@@CoachJAllenUoM it's easy,just baseball bat the idiot ones as they pass!

That's amazing, I seen a guy in another channel who said he picked up one at 58 and some people were bugging him about it, but you're showing them just by doing what you're doing. Too bad I can't show him your comment, I'm sure he would have appreciated it. He had some good support too though so it's not all bad.

I bet you've never had a speeding ticket in all 70 years, but might get one now 😅

good on you pa! I wish you live long and well and I love the quote: Don't care about the legality" haha......XD

That’s good glad you’ve not been stopped but it’s okay for you your an adult police are gonna stop younger people who may use e scooters legitimately like going to work like my self on my scooter and still be stopped because police know they have more power over a younger person but then admittedly there are young people wrecking it for loads of people selling drugs on them causing police chase and that so far I’ve been lucky I have a Chaos GT1600 Sport 48v Lithium Hub Drive and I love it has its own key, a display at front tells me my speed how much battery is left, how many miles I’ve done tells me what setting I have it in from 1 slowest to 3 fastest has a seat a horn a light and everything I love it and it’s saved so much time going to work but I think the government need to sort it out ASPA and make it fair for all ages like I’ve said before if your driving it unsafe like a dick head selling drugs on it causing trouble and so on then it should be taken off you but if your just commuting on it and you have a full license or provisional then you should be able to go about your business commuting and not have any bother.

I'm 55, i use mine for work and cops past me and nothing yet. Will carry on using it.

U vill

We came into this world with nothing and we leave with nothing, we are merely custodians.

"Fascism is the merger of state and corporate power" - Benito Mussolini They can make us own nothing,they can't make us happy about it.

@@Dave-bu6bc did you hear what Claus scwabb said about air born nano computers that can be released into the air and you breath them in?

@@jennywright4516 wow really? You got a link to the info?

Damn right! I know someone who rides past coppers every day and he's still riding.

That is unfortunately the way things are going

👏👏👏👏

Oooo! That’s an evil quote from an evil man

Klaus Shwab - Great Reset - World Economic Forum - "You vill eet zee bugs, you vill live in zee pod"

You can’t take it with you in the end 😬

Don't give them any ideas T-T

so like a Communist country

@@wanderingbox7971 So the tories are taking the whole party-of-the-people thing quite seriously after all!

The great reset, "you will own nothing and be happy". This crazy no private property law is the plan for us all, this is why cars are becoming lease items too. All part of the plan for the rented future hell.

@@thistimeimhere well the car rental thing is more economic pressure than government IMHO. Cars are expensive and nobody has any money, and these leasing services are everywhere and get you into a new car for less monthly cost (ignoring the fact that you're throwing your money away...). Businesses figure out it's better for their bottom line... after having you cover the depreciation on the vehicle for a few years, they can then just sell it on to someone else... ugh...

Im disabled im not ready for mobility chariot, i ride a big powerful sit down e scooter, they dont bother me, its gave me a new lease in life, if you sensible do you really think any copper going to nick a disabled person on a scooter, just tell them you can't walk and they will have to get you ambulance or carry you

The completely daft thing with mobility scooters is you do not have to prove to some shops that you have any disability to purchase one and once you have one you are allowed to take it inside shops drive on pavements etc. Yet our government will not legalize private ownership of an e-scooter. If anything an e-scooter could be used more effectively as a mobility aid and it can be stored away much more easily

It's alot deeper than that and not so sinister. There's many cities in the UK that are so polluted with regular built up traffic. That costs alot of money for drivers and council. There's fines and more problems for high emissions in city areas, emissions charges for drivers and the council and alsos fines for your country all tied to European emissions regs. Not only that but people moving out of London due travel times or congestion charges and fuel costs etc etc hits the pockets of the local council and the same goes in other cities. Scooters keep people Close and more Importantly in the shops and renting locally etc etc. I've noticed myself stopping at coffee shops and sitting down and having five minutes at a cafe that normally in my car I would pass by and not blink. However there are downsides for the scooter rider long term and that's health. I've barely walked since owning my scooter, getting about town is a little slower than the car (but not much) it's alot cheaper and I can get places my car can't. So walking has almost Become redundant other when I'm at work.

The UK has to pay alot of fines and taxes based on pollution levels that's are Co fined to only a handful of town and cities in the UK. The government would welcome less cars in those places. That's the reason for parking fines ans congestion charges. Without them the roads would be filled tenfold. If it was about making money they wouldn't care. Scooters will Soon be legal from what I'm hearing. Early next year Is what I've read.

Me too, it kinda spoils a nice ride keep looking for the plod.

In Birmingham they don’t care. The unofficial position is to turn a blind eye unless you’re doing something really stupid. I even had one tell me that’d he’d love to have a go one but declined my offer to try mine out, said it wouldn’t be appropriate.

I pass plenty of police, as well as my friend who has a Kaabo Wolf Warrior which goes 50mph+, none of them even care to look at us anymore.

You Are not going to get that day this is the day whnen coruption in england will finish never

I have a wolf warrior I approached a red traffic light and a police van was stopped next to me. Didn't bat an eye. As long as you don't take the piss by speeding and riding recklessly then they won't talk to you. Additionally I had a helmet and gloves on so they had the idea I was a safe rider.

There's an e-petition on the Halfords website

There have been many already ...Imo the only way to get this government to act is to shame them by exposing the mindset of profit .. rather than the thing that matters .... Environment.

Sign me up pal, it's pathetic. Even the most limp gimboid alive can control one.

@@multipreach2674 everyone share the petition

Yeah to ban them outright...

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9plYJqhtr7MYnU.html ti does not matter, happy scootering

Same in Australia Illegal to ride in public They say people do the wrong thing Like millions of people In cars who get caught speeding tickets etc Do we ban car companies now ??

Most of the people I see who use them pass people too close, don’t follow road laws and when spoken to are violent of abusive. Bloody keep them banned or fully regulate

True but they don't ban BMW etc for people doing it in cars Speeding parking tickets drink driving etc etc etc

@dstroud666 so should we ban cars , motorbikes , push bikes even skateboards as well ? No !!! Because it's the small minority of idiots controlling them who are the problem not the machines themselves

I'm in New York... scooters illegal here too. But a lot of people are seen riding them. Including me. It's our country, and governments wages paid from our taxes. WTF?

If you knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't spout such rubbish. Rental scooters are maintained by the companies running the individual schemes. The government aren't making money from this, quite the opposite. It's just a stop gap until the old laws are changed to accommodate electric scooters, in line with e-bikes etc. When that is done, anybody can then buy and use one on public roads etc. Until then, they currently require insurance and specific technical features to be road legal.

@@jamesdspaderf2883 That argument is pretty silly. Your taxes help pay for many things, a small part of which is wages for the people who actually setup, organise and deliver the services and facilities you take for granted. Do you think you should be allowed to do anything you like, just because you pay taxes?

@@another3997 I do. Stop drinking that fluoride. Everything is a monopoly. Just another way for the big man to control you.

@@another3997 🤡🤡🤡🤡

Zzzzzz

@@1412moore you zzzzz while they steal!

Get a grip lol

@@1412moore 22 billion on a test n trace that doesn't work turning down a free one that did work! zzzzz

They already have with the rentals

If you are riding at 20mph it's all down to you, the motor isn't running it's just a heavy bike.Getting you fit though.

@@philspencelayh5464 you can hit 20 going down hill with electric power alone! but because its a bike! if you are extremely good cyclist with a top end bike you can hit 40 mph in a 30 zone! how many get stopped for speeding? the whole system is a joke.

@@sirgaymeerkat1994 unless the bike has been made illegal you cant go on electric power alone at all, you must pedal as well, when you get to 15.5mph the electric motor cuts off. You can go as fast as you can pedal it but the electric motor is making no contribution when you exceed 15.5mph its just a bike like any other at that point. I have had mine going at more than 30 down a steep hill, no pedaling and no motor its just gravity. Anything with wheels will go fast down a steep hill even a scooter. Its nice to have chunky disk brakes though, do you get them on scooters?

@@philspencelayh5464 yes! you can get disk breaks! my point is it shouldn't be illegal unless you can go faster than 25 and over a certain amount of horse power like it is with mopeds! the law is stupid and only has been put there to give a monopoly for the scooter higher companies.

@@sirgaymeerkat1994 Good luck with that. We have a trial scheme in our area and the only ones I have seen are being ridden on the footpath even when there is a cycle track right beside them, There are a rising number of illegal ones too and they stick to the footpaths as well. They cannot be allowed to mix with pedestrians, because the pedestrians are not looking out for what is effectively a very quiet motorbike in amongst them. They should be allowed by law and like any other motor vehicle they should be taxed and insured and mot ed and only driven on the road by licenced users who have passed a driving test.

Trouble is we have narrow footways in uk, not enough cycle lanes, and have KIDS racing around where pedestrians walk,, same issue with bicycles mind, kids do just 'drop where they stop' they don't put them saftetly against a wall or fence, if you have 10 youngsters out for a ride to go into shop they drop them all over the walkway.

Yeah I wear a hi viz with mine. Mainly as a way to show police I'm not a piss taker. But also because my uniform is black 😂

"I feel they should wear hi vis. T" Feelings are irrelevant. And no, they should not have to look like a fucking idiot to use an elscooter. They have front and rear lights, if you can't see them, get off the road.

We can go ahead with your plan once we pass the law that forces you to wear a clown suit when you go out in public, because we "feel" like that's an equal trade off. While we are at it, let's take away your right to drink coffee and assign you a government mandated exercise regimen as well.

Elscooters belong on pavement, it's as easy as that.. Together with bikes, yes I said it.. There should be no right to cycle as fast as you want.. Impost speed limites on pavement and make cyclcunts slow the fuck down. Here where I live many of them act like they're training to, or are doing Tour de France. And why the hell do we accept PUBLIC roads being closed for PRIVATE events? Make them make their own fucking track! Roads are for the public, not for bicycle races.

@@AndreasEUR as long as you accept that for soccer, Olympics and running.

@Harrrive I consistently see people who drives to the speed limit to save time in their commute but take 30mins to park their car.

@Harrrive Freeing or freezing!

@Harrrive My downer in the winter is that I have solid tyres, so they can be quite slippy.

@Harrrive Pneumatic tyres grip a lot better.

Brilliant, I wish I'd thought of putting it like that. It is crazy when you stop and think about it. I do all journeys of less than about 20 miles on my bike now and have done since covid appeared but it would be great to have the option to use a scooter for some of them, especially when going to an area risky for theft as a scooter can be taken inside a workplace for example.

Actually, I’ll change my ‘some people have a death wish’ to *most have a death wish!

@@p9917j People should have the right to choose. What are you even saying with the last part, It's just a fact of life, sometimes bad things happen and we have to be adults and deal with them, not children who want to bubble wrap everything.

@@chronometer9931 yeah, i get that BUT that’s not what i’m talking about. There’s wilful disregard or respect from these extremely vulnerable riders zipping around 1, 2 tons and larger vehicle’s. So common to see these blissfully unaware idiots jumping into braking zones created by the driver. You may say , that’s their choice but what about the driver who now has reduced brake zone and could crush them as a result. They also have to live with killing someone regardless of whose choice it is. I’d let it go if it were an isolated issue but it’s the norm in London now. It’s a real problem that needs regulations and recourse if the worst were to happen.

Paul. I agree, a lot of people use these with no regard for their safety. It's the same with mobility carts and bicycles. There are those who think they have every right to ignore the "rules of the road" or just dont know them putting themselves at risk of serious injury or death and the only person who will have the finger of blame pointed at them will be the driver of the vehicle that has run them over. Clear regulations to make it safe for all is the only way to go.

Im in the states also and am shopping for a scooter. What brand do you have?

@@Myboogie0906 A Glion Dolly. My little friend is welcome on the train and in the office.

Did you find anything out since asking here? I just sold my car and want a e scooter for freedom locally, my breathing is bad and a scooter would be more acceptable than a 4 wheeled mobility “scooter” Here in Leeds it is still a no no but I see many people using them. It is absurd the way things stand.

@@breakit46 Not had any info I'm afraid. I feel so frustrated over this as I'm sure you do. The one thing I'm waiting on is the law that is bring introduced either later this year or early next year. They have now been legalised in the uk but the laws have not been made, hence they are still illegal.

Fuck da fed bro

Make it same colour as the rentals mate! Don't let anyone take your freedom please, how can they say a company can get insured but you can't? Don't accept it theirs your justification right there, you could argue that in a court.dont worry about it to much it's a scooter ,stuff em ! If you can't get past the anxiety sell it and just get an e bike no one will look twice 👍 I've got your back mate

@@adgooch7106 it’s an EUC rather than a scooter. Already looked into setting up a company and renting it to myself. Have taken out 3rd party electric bike cover as it’s all I can do (I believe the government are acting illegally by permitting long term hire and not permitting purchase). I used to cycle 150 miles a week to clear my head, but my knee is incredibly bad. This is the way I can ride my old routes and get out by myself. Thanks for the support :)

Make your own wooden one. Government legalised private hire because they can tax you. If they can't tax it then they ban it. Do dogs pay to travel?

Do they take it away from you if caught? I thought they would just fine you. I'm just curious. I dont live in the UK.

I love mine but I see police at least 2 or 3 times when I’m riding. I been riding for a month. In edge of road, mainly side streets no faster then 14mph and I get scared every time I see police. I’d be gutted for them to take my scooter away

In an ideal world, unfortunately the world is full of idiots.

@@grahamkelly8662 I'm thinking of buying one, because I honestly can't wait for this new legislation to be passed. But I am super nervous for me to get it and then get it taken away. Would it be possible for you somehow keep me updated on any encounters you have? I wonder if there will be a point in the future when police start pulling them all over...

hi mate. I understand your worries, I feel the same. Well, I now have 2 e scooters, 1st I rode everyday for around a month, about 140miles. I pass police around 3 times per ride, mainly because I live near a busy main road and I have to use said road to get to nice quiet streets and police are flying up and down constantly. I’ve not been stopped. I’ve been at traffic lights, police on other side, we both at front and they looking at me and they just ride on. That’s happened a good few times now. Recently, I took scooter to local store at 4am to get some bits and guess who is sitting directly outside shop, yep police. I was tempted to just ride on but I acted normal, went in shop with scooter, came out and they was gone. Yeh, I feel ya about your comment, regarding if/when police will be instructed to stop every e scooter rider they see and warn, fine or take scooter. I mainly use my scooters for pleasure rides, going shopping, post office, takeaway etc I don’t use for work. I would if it was local but fuck going 10plus miles on an e scooter with our shit roads and inconsiderate car/van/bus drivers. Here’s my advice. 1. Buy an e scooter if you think you’ll get a fair amount of use from it and poss try a friends first. 2. Remember it may get taken away so if money is tight, don’t go out buying a 2 grand scooter that you can’t afford to lose. 3. My first scooter cost under £300 and if your anxious, it may be best to buy a cheaper 1 and if it gets taken it’s not a huge lose . For me I said if I can get a year use from my £270 scooter and then police take, I wouldn’t be too bothered as i had a year of fun with it. 3. If your in love with an expensive fast scooter and have to have it, do not ride along at 30mph+ or police will deff have you, wear helmet and try not to ride on pavement. 4. If you do buy 1 try not to worry. Easier said then done but if your too full of fear, you’ll hardly ride it and not have fun. 5. Do a little research so you buy the right scooter for you. You know the laws and I’m not going to say go for it or not. That’s up to you. 1 more important bit of advice. Try and get air filled tyres and suspension is a bonus. My first scooter has hard tyres no suspension and is a rough ride on anything other then smooth tarmac. My 2nd scooter was £140 more then 1st, it has 10inch air filled tyres suspension on front and back and goes a fair bit faster, has bight led lights, key ignition , more range etc . If you have any questions or want any advice about a certain scooter, feel free to give me a shout 👍

@@grahamkelly8662 Thanks so much for taking the time to write such a long reply. I'm thinking of getting a pure air pro, in anticipation of future legislation restricting them to 15.5 mph. I would use it for commuting through north London. Thanks again for writing that I feel a lot better about it now.

Absolutely!

​@Peter Hicks No; the aim is to exempt them in the same way as electrically -assisted pedal cycles. Until they are exempted they need insurance (and insurance companies can't offer insurance to individuals for an illegal vehicle!). Therefore the only way to do a trial is to authorise various companies to hire them out and for the company to pay for liability insurance.

@Peter Hicks You don't have to believe me, Peter, but I think you're missing the point that the whole idea behind the present trial period is so that e-scooters can be granted the same exemption as electrically-assisted pedal cycles. The same argument you have made could also be made for them, but the government still exempted them from the need for insurance. The trial is going to have to go on for a bit longer because much of it has coincided with the onset of covid and much-reduced traffic density. Once that returns to normal, the trail will then show whether e-scooters can indeed be exempted. Much depends on the riders and the way they use them. If they ride them all over the pavement and leave them outside shops causing an obstruction, then there is less likelihood of that happening. If you look up the legislation behind the trials, you'll see thatv the aim is, indeed, to get them exempted (or, at least, those up to a certain power and speed etc.).

​@Peter Hicks You got that right, even electric cars scare the government shitless, I remember reading a couple years back about how they wanted to start taxing electric cars in some countries, including mine. The justification, is that electric cars don't have to pay for gas and thus don't have to pay the gas tax. Either we take a stand or the day will come when we are taxed to do anything other than walk. and maybe even that too

​@@robertstallard7836 Did you think they were going to tell you something you didn't want to hear? If they make escooters exempt that's great, but you're completely ignoring how things actually work. They tell us what they think we want to hear, they hold their trials and then decide if they can get away with it or not. If the gov doesn't determine that they can actually pull off forcing regulations then it will get banned, unless they think they can't ban them, then it would become exempt like electrically-assisted pedal cycles. The gov simply determined that they couldn't pull it off with electrically-assisted pedal cycles, because they are too similar to bikes(in the peoples eyes) and they also couldn't ban it, that's how it ended up exempt. The difference here is that some people don't equate scooters like that, but think they are like cars and that perception is likely what they are trying to gauge right now. It would actually be more accurate to say the gov first determines if they can ban it or not. It's when people refuse to follow those laws that the govs hand is forced, that's when they start to look into replacing lost or future lost income as it's no longer a choice.

Because the purpose of government is to support business not people

What model is your euc? I have the inmotion V8F

@@gav-ce5cm Mine's a Gotway Nikola Plus. London traffic can be quite unforgiving so I wanted a wheel that could move at the same speed as the cars. I avoid any roads faster than 30mph though. I've been happy with the wheel so far though I do think the rear light could be much improved.

Sad but true. If Government is not making taxes from it, then the vehicle will be frowned upon by the Police / Authorities / Big Brother. The Government preaches under the guise of doing what is best for the common people, but is making policies that align with taxing you to Bankruptcy.

They have to make sure them and their cronies are invested first. You know, to profit from this boom. Then they will latch on and make law and control. Again they want it all!

Wouldn't it be simpler/cheaper just to lump them in with bikes and e-bikes? Add a subgroup (e-scooters up to whatever restricted speed) and we're off. Does it need to be complicated? What about a year trial regulation and see what happens..?

@@flannel2699 That's exactly what they are doing! The aim is to exempt them in the same way as electrically -assisted pedal cycles. Until they are exempted they need insurance (and insurance companies can't offer insurance to individuals for an illegal vehicle!). Therefore the only way to do a trial is to authorise various companies to hire them out and for the company to pay for liability insurance.

@@robertstallard7836 so these schemes are a stop gap? Better than nothing I suppose.. My thought was to trial an 'equivalent-status to bicycles law' for a set period to monitor the effects. What might be interesting is to see whether a successful integration of e-scooters and bicycles might lead to a relaxing of pedal assisted e-bike regs to allow for assisted coasting. Last time I looked I think such a feature was not allowed.

@@flannel2699 Yes, you're right; it's trial. I'm pretty sure they'll be exempted. The problem is that covid has meant far fewer vehicles on the roads generally, so the trial has had to be extended somewhat to get a truer picture of their impact under normal conditions. A lot will depend on how responsible people are with them. Bicycles being ridden on the pavements is a big problem already, and if riders are tempted to do the same with e-scooters (or leave them scattered about on the pavement outside shops etc.) then they'll be less likely to be exempted as they'll just add to the problem.

Because London has joined late and London is all what matters in the UK mate. Disgusting to say the least.

Thanks 😊

totally but as always uk gov are idiots

True, but the person can’t pull a trigger if it doesn’t exist. But it’s nuts that we can’t own a scooter but can rent one. Wtf, how stupid is the government.

@@SirHackaL0t. the reason you and I can hire a scooter is because you will have to have a provisional and that will include insurance for accidents dont get me wrong i have and own a very powerful scooter but yet I don't need a licence or insurance for a pedal bike the government needs age restrictions not speed restrictions you get idiots going on motorways I my self stop and pull to one side to let people walk past and they are so shocked if a payment is heavily populated I push the scooter with age comes sense 😉

@@SirHackaL0t. The aim is to exempt them in the same way as electrically -assisted pedal cycles. Until they are exempted they need insurance (and insurance companies can't offer insurance to individuals for an illegal vehicle!). Therefore the only way to do a trial is to authorise various companies to hire them out and for the company to pay for liability insurance.

​@@SirHackaL0t.The idea of making all guns disappear is impossible and the situation here isn't actually much different. Gun ownership in the near future seems inevitable as everyone will be able to make one with ease. E Scooters are here to stay and even now in the UK so many are riding them legal or not, it's going to grow, people can't afford to drive, people are living pay check to pay check. It's like trying to stop homelessness by banning homelessness...

Scooter for 300 will be absolute shit. Try more like 1500

@@aks13v35 That wasn't the message, but yes, I'd rather an 11X or Dualtron.

@@TheLondonCyclist I was driving M365 Pro, then Zero 9.And now I am with an Inokim OX. It's my main and only transport in the city and I am driving mainly on the streets. Might be expensive, but it's safe and practical if you go for a bigger, faster and better build scooter. I know that the good scooters are quite expensive still, but there is second hand options aswell.

It is already 40£/month 😂🤣🤣

@@aks13v35 rubbish u know nothing

They take your stuff, you fight back. Only lesson I learnt in school.

I own next to nothing and I’m very happy. Much more than when I had loads of stuff. Materialism is just a habit. For virtually all of humanity’s existence we managed without rampant consumerism. Of course, the rich have always flaunted their wealth (it’s a dick-waving competition, with them) but, while it’s obscene, it has less impact globally than the zillions of plastic bottles the rest of us consume. Yes, governments have to act but we have to act, too. Complain about the rich and powerful all you like but don’t use their inaction as an excuse not to green your own life.

No you can't mate. They are illegal in au.

You wont be driving your car for long if the filth see you after they've had a row with their missus, I'm 61 and would love a scooter but I love my car too, remember, 6 points for no insurance

@@geoffgreen3345 A fair comment and I would happily pay insurance if that was a way forward for legalising me. It seems harsh that I can hire one but can't own one.

How is it greener? All these do is displace the emissions to the national grid who get most of their power from burning coal. And the damage done to the environment mining the materials for the batteries is it ok that its damaging 3rd world countries and not ours. not to mention the batteries have a lifetime of around 7 ish years so more mining is required

​@@vector198 The National Grid isn't the problem of the user and is easily solved with Nuclear, anyone who claims to be pro-environment and yet is anti-nuclear is a hypocrite. As for the materials, I'll point out first that it's the third world making the most use out of these vehicles, look how many are used in China for example. We can't end 100% of mining, that's simply not possible. We do need better batteries and we do need to make better use of the resources we have. We may be able to use use hydrogen tech in the future combined with nuclear. That would work for larger vehicles, but I don't know if the tech can be made small enough to work for scooters.

@@chronometer9931 the national grid being the problem of the user depends on the reason for you getting the vehicle, if its just cheap easy transportation, then no. But if its for conscientious reasons about the environment then having the fumes coming out of a powerstations chimney instead of your exhaust. As it is right now the majority of power is created in stations that burn fossil fuels so the environment is being polited either way. and i agree that nuclear power is better for the environment in some sences but it has its own drawbacks with what to do with the waste? My point was these electric vehicles arent all theyre cracked up to be.

Completely agree, saw a mclaren super car earlier which goes 200mph yet the speed limit is 70mph 🤷‍♀️ if the driver is reckless and breaks speed limit, drives it dangerously it’s unsafe , if they aren’t reckless and stick to the rules it’s safe. Pretty simple 👍🏻

@@e-scooterguy Whilst I understand your point, safety cannot be provided by a number on a road sign. Just because you are driving at, or under the speed limit, does not mean you are automatically safe. Nor does going over the speed limit automatically make it unsafe, just illegal. Driving/riding to suit the conditions is the real key.

I keep hearing these arguments about people getting hit by e scooters, but the reality is that this is extremely rare. most scooters aren't really any more dangerous to you than someone peddling a bike really fast or going down a hill. The vast majority of scooter instances are cars hitting scooters. Even people on the sidewalk are in extremely low danger here, but people need to be more respectful of others around them and not block the paths so people have room to pass. What you're advocating is actually more dangerous. you want to put a 100 pound or less toy in with 1+ ton crushing machines.. Do people who ride scooters lives not matter?

@@chronometer9931 The vast majority of vehicle to vehicle collisions are the faster vehicle hitting the slower one, but that doesn't mean it's the faster or the slower vehicle at fault. Pedestrians have been killed by impacts with cyclists, and skaters. If you're hit and killed it is irrelevant that you're a rare statistic, you're still just as dead. As a pedestrian I feel less safe every day sharing the pavement with higher speed wheeled transport, we need some sort of physical barrier to separate us from all the cyclists and scooters. I won't even walk to the local store any more because the pavements aren't safe for pedestrians, instead I'm forced to drive there causing more pollution and more congestion.

The difference is a car kills pedestrians. Scooters/bike wrecks rarely ends in fatalities. Scooters/bikes are much safer and should have priority over cars.

No its just most of us did a drvng test and passed a theroy.. meaning we understand the highway code and was tested and passed... No theory, No trainning and No test means a total liability.... So Ok If you get hit and hear... sorry didnt know... or didnt see you.... yet you have a broken leg and they just ride off... im sure you be happy you have zero way of gettng compensation

bicycles are better in every way

You sir, you know how the game is played.......well done, sir well done.

E-Scooters don't go dangerously fast.

You are definitely breathing too much!!

Its all about money. They just want to screw us every which way they can. This how you can tell if a government enslaving you.

"You will own nothing and be happy" - World Economic Forum

And how do you suppose they would police that?

Thank you. At least we can see what's really going on. The also added "you have no privacy" to you will own nothing and be happy. How convenient, they are equipped with cameras and GPS.

70 year old broad here. I love my scoot too!

Love it! Its great to get out in the fresh air so healthy!

The average speed for cyclists (who are generally banned from using pavements) is 15-20mph. Explain why the speed of an e-scooter on the road would be a problem. Further, explain why a vehicle doing 15mph would be suitable for a pavement (excluding cycle paths).

I think the issue is banning pavement riding. I get banning riding fast on a pavement like if you ride on a pavement you should be aware of all around you and go at the speed of walking. Also there are times pavement riding is the only practical option such as when all the roads are one way up a hill for a few streets around and the alternative is travelling 3 times the distance like is the case in many city centres. I am a responsible rider in that I make sure to follow all road rules, stop at all red lights even slow down for a green light just in case some idiot does something you don't expect ,make sure I am always in the correct lane for turning(even if some get annoyed by that but if they are a danger I move out the way as safely as possible), never go across a light unless you can clear the junction and I also keep slow if pedestrians are around and ring the bell for a long time if anybody is unaware of my presence(you can usually spot this easily). Its not pavement riding per se thats the problem but riding too fast on a pavement. Most issues I've seen are misuse of the scooter and frankly those who misuse them deserve to be banned. I also have no issue with bicycle licenses and scooter licenses and insurance being required. I favour the road over the path and bike lanes over roads still but theres no harm in riding at 2mp-4 mph down a path to cut the distance traveled by 2/3rds.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9plYJqhtr7MYnU.html you have been brainwashed, use your scooter as much as you like, the police are powerless,

If you are travelling as a living being, commercial maritime law (legal) does not apply. Just be careful not to contract (under-stand) or traverse (argue the toss gives implied acceptance of the rule), and simply question their authority over a living being. Use the Law, not their stupid legislation, which are just corporate rules.

@@G-ra-ha-m the sovereign citizen stuff does not hold up in court

@@GoldenSound I holds up just fine, as long as you know the legal terms, and do not contract. As soon as you enter court and 'plea' you have no understood the system. If the judge runs out then you also need to re-establish what type of court it is. At the end of the day it's contract law. It also depends upon the authority of the government, these days they are mostly corporations: so the Clearview Doctrine applies.

@@G-ra-ha-m no it really does not, and refusing to plead in either direction will not change anything. Im guessing you don't actually have any legal experience....

@@GoldenSound I'm guessing that you don't really know who you are, and how contract law works. People are already using this knowledge, and winning. Perhaps you confuse the law with legislation of a corporate government? Or perhaps you don't really understand how understanding all aspects of a legal document, changes the meaning of the document? Freedom has to be learned, it cannot be gained or dismissed with a click of the fingers.

But he's doing great in Europe !

Yes, just like people who use them- "Don't bother me with regulations, I just want to ride on the pavement, stoned and I don't care if I hit a child it shouldnt have been in the way".

Not against the rules it's against the law (a very different thing) disabled vehicles are the ONLY vehicles permitted to drive on the pavement or pedestrian areas and that includes bicycles of any sort including children .. but mostly the police would not enforce a child to ride on the road ,although I heard of one such incident with a child and parent on the way to school who was stopped

​@ferret Wait, you didn't stupidly assume Daniele was from the area and thus would know the local laws did you?

@@chronometer9931 the difference is ebike are power assist, so if you set it so that you have to push start it........ if wont drive on its own power, you have to push start it ....

@@fpvrc9829 what you talking about there a ton of throttle ebikes

No of course not, the companies have to get an exemption from the local council and the police.