How Romance RUINED Molly McGee

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10 ай бұрын

The Ghost and Molly McGee would ruin its second season with the inclusion of one guy: Oliver.
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@SuperBatSpider
@SuperBatSpider 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact:When I first heard of this show I misheard it as “The Ghost of Molly McGee” and thought our main protagonist was dead
@chaotically-moon
@chaotically-moon 10 ай бұрын
LOL
@thesodorengines
@thesodorengines 10 ай бұрын
Ha ha same
@squiddyanimations6617
@squiddyanimations6617 10 ай бұрын
same i thought i was alone
@mediamuncher69
@mediamuncher69 10 ай бұрын
You're talking about pretty freaking scary which is terrible show.
@SuperBatSpider
@SuperBatSpider 10 ай бұрын
@@mediamuncher69 What?
@NerdyTransformed
@NerdyTransformed 10 ай бұрын
I think my biggest problem with Ollie is him being exactly like Molly. I know they're kids and romance at the age is still kind of shallow, but I really hate when shows portray the idea that two people who are nearly identical are perfect for each other.
@chloenieuwsma4846
@chloenieuwsma4846 10 ай бұрын
I don't seem them alike at all. They have similar interests but Molly's alot more energetic while Ollie Is calm. I can go on
@mr.punkie5872
@mr.punkie5872 10 ай бұрын
I thought the whole point between Molly and Ollie is that they eventually find out they aren't as alike as they thought
@ninalove8521
@ninalove8521 10 ай бұрын
Don't really think so... As someone pointed out already, their similarities are basically physical appearance, name and some interests, but personality-wise they can get kind of different. Molly being assertive, energetic, almost always having self-confidence and occasionally impulsive, meanwhile Ollie being the calmer, clumsy and sometimes isn't very self-confident
@jeremiahwalker3795
@jeremiahwalker3795 10 ай бұрын
Yeah opposites attract
@kmmk5022
@kmmk5022 10 ай бұрын
I kinda wished Ollie was kind of more of his own character rather than being a genderbend of Molly. There are some stuff they separate him from Molly but not enough to where he feels like a unique character
@EnigmaticGentleman
@EnigmaticGentleman 10 ай бұрын
I wouldnt say i like the second season as well as the first, but comparing it to Fairly Oddparents Season 10? Thats like comparing a plain sandwich to rotten meat.
@darwinbowman8512
@darwinbowman8512 10 ай бұрын
THANK YOU 😂! That's honestly the worst possible comparison. You're comparing the first 8 episodes of a second season to the 10th season of a show WELL PASSED its prime
@Commenter839
@Commenter839 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, having watched FOP S10 (bless my soul ik) the worst episodes of Molly McGee compared to the best of late stage FOP is still like comparing Spiderverse to The Emoji Movie. Molly McGee still has likable characters and fun plots- I even like Ollie, since even though he was brought on purely to be a Rule 63 Molly and a love interest, I like that they're giving him a character arc about unlearning his prejudice while living in a prejudiced family. I do understand the point about how he has no real dynamic with anyone that isn't Molly (and possibly Scratch). The later seasons of FOP /badly/ flanderized all the characters we loved (if they weren't outright forgotten), kept adding in new characters that nobody cared about, and constantly broke the most basic rules of its universe, most egregiously that adults aren't supposed to know that fairies exist. Not to mention every new character after Foop was just awful... and even Foop was pushing it.
@glimmerstantroop46321
@glimmerstantroop46321 10 ай бұрын
I mean, as dumb as it was, it is still his opinion ig
@code122
@code122 10 ай бұрын
​@glimmerstantroop46321 I agree, every opinion needs to be respected even though their wrong and utter garbage
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 10 ай бұрын
@@Commenter839 Late Stage Fairly Odd Parents is still good. I can't watch the Flash episodes though. Two of my favorite episodes ever Crock Blocked and Finding Emo came from season 9.
@Bowl-0f-Soup
@Bowl-0f-Soup 10 ай бұрын
I do kinda like the way Scratch and Ollie kinda oppose each other in how they’re introduced, like scratch was introduced as an opposite to Molly, but they slowly realized they had stuff in common which brings them together, where Ollie seems like basically the exact same person as Molly, but are slowly revealed to be different in ways that keep them apart
@trentmoore6947
@trentmoore6947 10 ай бұрын
The only real major difference was that Ollie didn’t like ghost while Molly did, that’s out the window now. There’s also the ghost hunting thing, but it doesn’t really feel like they add enough differences to make it clear they’re not the same person, or emphasize how they handle situations with ghost different enough.
@erikbihari3625
@erikbihari3625 9 ай бұрын
@@trentmoore6947. I'd say the Ghost hunting bit is already substantial already. And one you failed to mention, is that until meeting scratch, molly didn't even know, ghosts existed!
@trentmoore6947
@trentmoore6947 9 ай бұрын
@@erikbihari3625 i mean Molly has no problem with ghosts after meeting Scratch, they don’t do enough with the ghost hunting aspect to show how both handle situations with ghost differently. Like, a situation where Molly tries a non violent approach with a more aggressive ghost while Ollie tries to do it his ghost hunting way.
@erikbihari3625
@erikbihari3625 9 ай бұрын
@@trentmoore6947. That's not what I meant, just said she didn't even knew they existed before meeting scratch. Give it time, tv shows, are good at that!
@trentmoore6947
@trentmoore6947 9 ай бұрын
@@erikbihari3625 what does that have to do with my point? They could’ve shown my example in the Unhaunting of Brighton video, have a ghost who’s aggressive and show how Molly and Ollie handled it differently from it each other, they could’ve shown more differences in the previous episodes too.
@geardog24
@geardog24 10 ай бұрын
There's nothing wrong with having romance in the series. We just need more to do with the characters. Maybe add some much needed villains.
@kirbystar7474
@kirbystar7474 10 ай бұрын
They already have three villains with the chens, mega store, and jinx but also not every story needs a villain
@kiddygoat
@kiddygoat 10 ай бұрын
Real, also Jinx is already there so,,
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 10 ай бұрын
We got plenty, The Chens, and Jinx.
@kirbystar7474
@kirbystar7474 10 ай бұрын
@@icecreamhero2375 And megastore
@maurosanchez5720
@maurosanchez5720 10 ай бұрын
I think Season 2 look like pues and boots because the dreamworks movie have 3 villains goldlock and the 3 bears Darth wolf and jack and. The ghost and molly have joy Killers ghost ghost hunterS and mega store ceo.
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 10 ай бұрын
Andrea is not self-centered she is vain. BIG difference. Being vain is thinking you are amazing. Being selfish is doing what ever you feel like doing and not caring how it affects others. That doesn't sound like Andrea.
@frostbitedragon9
@frostbitedragon9 9 ай бұрын
Yea andrea genuinly feels bad if she does something she believes as wrong. She's even shown she very much can feel bad for others and just wants to make her life as well as others better. Atleast in her mind.
@Vidtube-hu1rk
@Vidtube-hu1rk 8 ай бұрын
I agree
@charliepuppy.
@charliepuppy. 8 ай бұрын
yeah ik t divaakbajqrty
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 8 ай бұрын
@@charliepuppy. What does divaakbajqrty mean?
@ChoirKid.
@ChoirKid. 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, remember that episode were she made a website and it started to ruin the rest of the businesses? Once she heard it she understood she had to shut it down. And she was very proud that she made a successful business. She also bought her house back, simply because she thought they were friends. She probably would’ve done it either way anyway.
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 10 ай бұрын
"Ollie is boring." I don't mind him. His relationship with Molly and his redemption arc is cute. Also, not every character needs to be deep. You can mix deep characters with simple ones. For example, I love Pigpen from Peanuts. He is one of my favorite fictional characters in anything ever and his gimmick is simple.
@matias3542
@matias3542 10 ай бұрын
the thing is, it wasn't really a redemption arc, he is too perfect and the whole ghost hunting thing was mostly just a missunderstanding, there is nothing to really make him stand out unlike Andrea and Libby who had and still have things to work through.
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 10 ай бұрын
@@matias3542 Believing something your whole life and then changing is a redemption arc. If that isn't one I don't know what is. He cried about it in the rental store episode.
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 10 ай бұрын
@@matias3542 Libby never had to be redeemed because she was never an antagonist. Andrea was never bad just vain and a little snobby.
@matias3542
@matias3542 10 ай бұрын
@@icecreamhero2375 im not talking about the characters being evil or bad people, im talking about them having flaws, Libby had and still has a ton of self steem issues which are a lot more interesting than this bland ass E-boy who is literally just Molly's gender bent.
@octavianjoseph8633
@octavianjoseph8633 10 ай бұрын
I think you're conflating "deep" with interesting. Deep is what the newbie story lovers think characters should be, takes a long time to get to know, is mysterious story-wise, maybe has an ulterior motive. People, understandably, aren't fans of those characters. And no one is asking for ANY of that when they say a character is boring. No, boring implies a character is not fun to watch. There isn't much fun or humorously inviting about Ollie, he's a played straight generic boy.
@cerebralsamurai8382
@cerebralsamurai8382 10 ай бұрын
You gotta understand The Ghost and Molly McGee is a slice of show that's why every episode is a stand alone story with only a few having an impact on the whole story
@SunnylandProds
@SunnylandProds 10 ай бұрын
*they should’ve done a darker story* Uh… No.
@StevenJones851
@StevenJones851 10 ай бұрын
I feel they could Foucsed more on Story Drivin Stuff
@SunnylandProds
@SunnylandProds 10 ай бұрын
@@StevenJones851 They are. This is. Ollie is a victim of inherited prejudice. One of the big points of this season is how good people can be prejudiced against things they don’t understand. I don’t know how people miss this, it’s not subtle. And as for Molly and Ollie’s relationship, I posted a much longer comment somewhere else, but TLDR: Doomed crush falls apart -> Friendship -> Much stronger romance built on friendship, trust and understanding.
@StevenJones851
@StevenJones851 10 ай бұрын
@@SunnylandProds ok i see but i just hope the Romance dosent ruin the show
@SunnylandProds
@SunnylandProds 10 ай бұрын
@@StevenJones851 It won’t. It’s not the focus, and it’s never been the focus.
@M1ckTheMan
@M1ckTheMan 10 ай бұрын
Danny Phantom: Oh for the love of -DANNY PHANTOM IS A SUPER HERO CARTOON, while TGAMM is a slice of life with horror elements, they're not the same type of show.
@theghostwiththemost789
@theghostwiththemost789 10 ай бұрын
My biggest problem with season 2 is the lack of the chairman. He brought a sense of dread and intimidation in the first season and that’s just gone now. There’s no actually intimidating villain in the show anymore and we still have so many unanswered questions about him. Why didn’t he talk? How did he get in control over the ghost world? How exactly did Molly kill him? He was a ghost. Did he die again? As it is now, the chairman was just a waste of a villain. He barely even did anything before Molly killed him. Jinx is still around and I know the show is going to do something with her eventually. She apparently loved the chairman but we have no idea why. Also, slightly off topic but I’m so confused why everyone is acting like scratch killed the chairman. He didn’t. Molly did. Scratch was just kind of their
@kjw21411
@kjw21411 10 ай бұрын
*there, not their
@barelyhere7200
@barelyhere7200 10 ай бұрын
@@kjw21411 seriously💀
@kirbystar7474
@kirbystar7474 10 ай бұрын
It’s because if it wasn’t for scratch molly wouldn’t have come to the ghost world. Also if you have seen the new 3 episodes in episode 11 jinx is explored mkre
@based980
@based980 10 ай бұрын
@@kjw21411 theyre*
@Raddish-IS-Radd
@Raddish-IS-Radd 10 ай бұрын
​@@based980 you used they are, not there
@louisemagat8173
@louisemagat8173 10 ай бұрын
While Ollie is far from my favorite character, his relationship with Molly is genuinely adorable. They have a lot of chemistry, they bounce off each other perfectly, and Ollie's arc, going from a ghost hating ghost hunter, to realizing they aren't as bad as he previously thought is really well executed. Plus, as much as I love both Libby and Andrea as characters, I never felt like shipping them with Molly was anything more than just fan speculation. They never really had anything that would hint at a romantic connection, and making them a couple would feel forced. Like, Anne I could totally believe starting a relationship with either Sasha or Marcy. But the relationship that Molly has with both Libby and Andrea feel way too platonic to develop into something more. I'm all for LGBTQ ships, but do it in a way where it feels natural, not just to make it happen.
@erichfiedler1481
@erichfiedler1481 10 ай бұрын
A perfect example definitely goes to Lumity
@Commenter839
@Commenter839 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree. I think AJ is being a bit too harsh on Ollie for being a designated love interest, but he's honestly not a bad character as far as these archetypes go. I do see his point about Ollie's lack of chemistry with everyone else though. Aside from how he's trying to get on Scratch's good side now, Ollie has no dynamic with any of Molly's friends.
@stephaniewilliams6756
@stephaniewilliams6756 10 ай бұрын
Youre just an example of someone who thinks "cute" outweighs "importance to story and to narrative drive" you are the lowest common denominator of human comprehension
@erikbihari3625
@erikbihari3625 9 ай бұрын
I'm just surprised Disney allowed a heterosexual relationship to appear in tv, and one of their main protagonists in a day and age where the idea of fairy tale straight romances started heading the dodo's way!
@Commenter839
@Commenter839 9 ай бұрын
@@erikbihari3625 The Owl House is literally the only show in DTVA history to have an openly LGBT protagonist, and it got cut short because of that. Every other animated show with gay couples has those relationships either restricted to the unimportant secondary characters or hidden away in the background. It's a huge exaggeration to imply straight relationships are dying out, particularly in the Disney TV Animation side
@thatsolidliquid3873
@thatsolidliquid3873 9 ай бұрын
Try not to compare shows to The Owl House challenge: IMPOSSIBLE!!!
@endtrapta3393
@endtrapta3393 7 ай бұрын
real !! personally i LOVE the way tgamm is different than toh, amphibia, and gravity falls. it’s more slice of life and realistic than “girl stuck in unfamiliar place has to save the world with the friends she made along the way.” i love the way it’s different. it’s not unnecessarily violent and doesn’t put molly through trauma to further the plotline. with luz and anne, a lot of their development is built on them being used. i think the romance here works. the characters in tgamm feel much more real (besides the fact that they are pretty much all human). i like the “love at first sight” trope. it really does just work here. it’s something new than in the owl house where its “enemies to lovers” and in gravity falls, both the twins are essentially “hopeless romantics.” tgamm is supposed to be a feel good show and i think the romance aspect fits in really well
@thatsolidliquid3873
@thatsolidliquid3873 6 ай бұрын
@@endtrapta3393YAS DUDE. It just gets frustrating hearing comparisons to any new show. I understand that TOH and GF have become staples in animation history, but it doesn't mean we have to hold every new animated show to a certain standard.
@taki7546
@taki7546 22 күн бұрын
The owl house isn’t even that good. Should compare it to Gravity Falls instead
@bluebellsforever
@bluebellsforever 9 күн бұрын
​@@taki7546yes it is. It's the best show ever made
@jexelbur6872
@jexelbur6872 10 ай бұрын
“Ruined” is a strong word. A more accurate term would be “altered” but that’s stretching it. The show introduces ghost hunters, kinda expected with a show about a girl and her ghost friend. The protagonist has a crush on one of the ghost hunters. Having a crush doesn’t always translate to romance, even then, Molly’s main concern about Oliver (a ghost hunter) is how he’ll react to Scratch. Molly’s relationship with Oliver presents a dilemma, just not a romantically charged one. And since we’re talking about Oliver’s presence in the show: season 2 has about 14 episodes, Oliver is in episodes 1 , 2, 5, 7, 8 and 13. If you factor in that the episodes are split into two 11 minute episodes, there’s about 26 episodes in season 2. That means Ollie is in 6 out of the 26 episodes of this season. So the show doesn’t even focus that much on him. And when it does, it’s less about Molly’s “romantic feelings” for Ollie, and more about her keeping Scratch safe from Ollie or random shenanigans like “engoodifying” the world. I’m probably off with the calculations of those episodes (so please correct me if I’m wrong), but I’m sure about Ollie’s inclusion to the story being relatively minor.
@nsaasuquo4181
@nsaasuquo4181 9 ай бұрын
Hard disagree
@potturtle366
@potturtle366 8 ай бұрын
hard agree
@nsaasuquo4181
@nsaasuquo4181 8 ай бұрын
@@potturtle366 harder disagree
@potturtle366
@potturtle366 8 ай бұрын
@@nsaasuquo4181 even harder agree 🤧
@nsaasuquo4181
@nsaasuquo4181 8 ай бұрын
@@potturtle366 hardest disagree
@M1ckTheMan
@M1ckTheMan 10 ай бұрын
Okay about the "Viewed as the same person" thing... that's a full on LIE, by the bulk of ghost society Scratch is practically worshipped outside of a few outliers. In one episode he even brings up how important being liked is to him, to the point where it was at the expense of his friends who liked him BEFORE he was cool. I'm sorry but with that line and the...FORTY THREE minute run time, you come off as Mr. Enter but with a good editor.
@chloenieuwsma4846
@chloenieuwsma4846 10 ай бұрын
In Jinx and New Paranormal it's shown many ghost love Scratch as the Chairman so I don't see any lack of respect here. There treating him way better than anything in season 1 combined! Dude is signing autographs and having people cheer his name
@M1ckTheMan
@M1ckTheMan 10 ай бұрын
@@chloenieuwsma4846 EXACTLY -did he just SKIP that episode?!
@chloenieuwsma4846
@chloenieuwsma4846 10 ай бұрын
​@yoshimickster seems like it. Or he just put that picture in without knowing the context
@glimmerstantroop46321
@glimmerstantroop46321 10 ай бұрын
​@yoshimickster to be fair, and I am NOT defending him here. By the looks of things, this script was written before "All Shark No Bite" and every episode post that.
@erikbihari3625
@erikbihari3625 9 ай бұрын
@@glimmerstantroop46321. Not a compelling excuse, because scripts can be revised even while working,
@TinyRiver97
@TinyRiver97 9 ай бұрын
This review has everything but why complain about not focusing on being serialized when that was NEVER the show's goal? bring The Owl House for no reason despite Molly and TOH being different shows on storytelling and bring FOP S10 for no goddamn reason
@TuesdaysArt
@TuesdaysArt 9 ай бұрын
Adding even a crumb of lore gathers people who want to turn your kids cartoon into Lord of the Rings. It's a shame.
@firstgameplaygr8186
@firstgameplaygr8186 9 ай бұрын
@@TuesdaysArt at the end of the day toh and amphibia are there for that purpose
@CrossoverFan4life
@CrossoverFan4life 10 ай бұрын
I like Mollie and Ollie. I don't think romance ruined it. It has some great episodes like the one with Libby and her dad, and the ones about Molly and her Thai heritage
@CrumpetTV
@CrumpetTV 9 ай бұрын
LIBBY AND THE DAD EPISODE WAS SO GOOD!!!
@jamestolbert1856
@jamestolbert1856 9 ай бұрын
Me too
@deshawnedwards6412
@deshawnedwards6412 10 ай бұрын
Season 2 of The Ghost and Molly McGee been GREAT! Been loving this season, especially with how things are going, Scratch now the new Chairman and have to deal with things in the Ghost World along with with dealing with Jixn who serve as a side villain to Scratch, McGee new neighbor are ghost hunters with Molly having a cute crush on the neighbor boy, who is actually a good addition to the cast really enjoy Ollie character and that they didn't keep Scrath a secret from him a whole season, we are getting way more of Libby and Andrea this season and they are both receiving lot of Character Development, specially Andrea and Libby also got her period and we learn more her family and her dad most of this season been great.
@OJ_Juice07
@OJ_Juice07 10 ай бұрын
Wonderful opinion!! I don’t understand why people in the fandom treat Ollie like complete garbage when in fact he’s an actual great character with lots of development so far!!
@DisMikoUwUOfficial
@DisMikoUwUOfficial 10 ай бұрын
I agree with you. Some people are just treating Season 2 like garbage. The team is trying their best to make Season 2 look good. But SOME critics JUST have to ruin it for others. Like bruh :/ I'm also hoping Andrea will meet Scratch sometime in Season 2, or 3.
@kmmk5022
@kmmk5022 10 ай бұрын
I think it has to do with the fact that Ollie is too similar to Molly
@old_account_not_in_use
@old_account_not_in_use 10 ай бұрын
This guy is spitting facts. In my opinion, season 2 has been an incredible improvement on an already incredible first season
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 5 ай бұрын
Season 2 been amazing so far can't wait for new episodes to come back in January.
@TheRealLifeKillerMoth
@TheRealLifeKillerMoth 10 ай бұрын
Dude my biggest problem is that they no longer have a main antagonist. The Chairman was a looming threat throughout the first season but there isn't anything like that in season 2.
@amiano59e4
@amiano59e4 10 ай бұрын
i mean if you see the ghost hunters as looming threats then like theyre ok but i feel like jinx can be a massive threat with the new episode
@knarrow0222
@knarrow0222 10 ай бұрын
Yes they do. Where were you when Jinx was being focused on? Plus the Ghost Chaser Chens could be the mainn antagonists as well.
@TheRealLifeKillerMoth
@TheRealLifeKillerMoth 10 ай бұрын
fair points.
@franz8072
@franz8072 10 ай бұрын
The Chens were suppopsed to be the new main antagonists but they're pathethic antagonists. Only Ollie did his part. The other ones showed up, blasted Geoff and Jeff, and then got fucked just to be saved by Scratch. Ruben, Esther and June have 0 weight so far.
@stuffposter9011
@stuffposter9011 10 ай бұрын
I don't view the season in this way at all, really. While you're right about the show moving in a new direction, it's not entirely romantic-centric. This is really only 3 full episodes out of the total 11 that have already aired. However, I do see what you mean in terms of a lack of continuity between the 1st and 2nd seasons, and how that's a problem.
@mr.punkie5872
@mr.punkie5872 10 ай бұрын
Eh, I disagree with a lot of the arguments here. Especially comparing this season to season 10 of The Fairly Odd Parents... Hell nah. Sorry, but you're tripping on that one. This season Is not that bad even if I agreed with all the points you made. I'm not gonna go into all the details because I would have to write an entire essay here, but I do want to say a few things. Regarding the point you made about Ollie never really explaining why he hates ghosts, he literally clarified to Molly that he himself didn't really have a reason to hate ghosts other than what his dad has told him his whole life. He explained in the third episode that the ghosts hadn't done anything to him, but that they attacked his dad when he was a child. Now you could think that this is a weak reason to hate ghosts the way he does but you need to put yourself in his shoes. His whole life he has been taught by his parents, more specifically his dad, that ghosts are the worst of creatures, they're dangerous and they only exist to hurt humans. So I feel like it's wrong for you to say that they never touch on the reasonings behind Ollie being a ghost hater because is not really true. Clearly, Ollie has been indoctrinated by his dad to hate ghosts. Most humans in the show don't even know if ghosts really exist let alone if they're good or bad so I don't find it unthinkable that Ollie would grow to despise ghosts when throughout his life he's been told that they're bad. They touch on this again in the "frightmares" episode when Ollie and Molly are having a fight over whether ghosts are good or bad, he tells her that "I've been told my whole life that ghosts are bad, it has to be true" or something along those lines. Also, his seeing his dad constantly mocked by the public might have influenced his hate towards ghosts and his wanting to be right, him wanting his dad to be right and prove the unbelievers wrong. Is also one of the reasons he seemed to like Molly, because he saw her as someone that "understood" him. The other point that Ollie lacks character and doesn't serve any purpose other than being Molly's love interest can be debated. Even though I agree that they could've made Ollie's character a little bit more interesting or complex, I disagree that he doesn't serve any real purpose or hasn't had any development. He definitely had development, and you can call it rushed but there's just so much they can add within the time frame of the episodes. I think you and other people are forgetting that this isn't a plot-driven show. The fact that we have these little plots on the side and characters actually getting development is just extra. The creators confirmed this themselves, they clarified that season 2 feeling like it follows more of a plot rather than complete randomness is just coincidental and extra. I think it's completely fair for fans to expect a bit more plot and development-wise, but you also need to understand the situation the writers are in. They don't even know if they're getting a third season, which is why one of the creators stated that they concluded the season at the end to the point where it should still feel satisfying. They do not have other options other than rushing through the little plots they have in their episodic show. I do believe that if they knew they had more seasons at hand, they could've developed more of the plots like Ollie's arc but I think his character has been fine with the current circumstances. I feel like the whole point of Molly's and Ollie's relationship is that they weren't as similar as they thought they were and I think they touch on that more as the series progresses. Is the opposite of Lumity, where they go from enemies to lovers. I also disagree with you using Lumity as the ideal way to write a relationship since I found it bland for the most part and also extremely rushed but that's a whole other conversation. I disagree with the claim that Molly and Ollie are exact copycats of each other. I really do not get why people keep repeating that. Just because they both want to improve society around them doesn't mean they're the exact same person. If anything, the latest episodes have proved that Molly and Ollie are different in multiple aspects. For example, Ollie is nowhere near as confident as Molly is, in fact, he doubts himself all the time something Molly never does. It's Molly always the one putting confidence in Ollie. This fits the whole "we weren't as similar as we thought we were" trope which in my opinion is what they've been going for. I don't really get why you said that the whole of season 1 was them building up the ghost world and the final clash with the chairman. In a way, yes, it was, but it's not like every episode was plot development toward the ghost world and the chairman. If anything, it was the same as season 2, Molly and Scratch in the human world with the ghost world on the side. Scratch not taking his job seriously makes sense and he has made it clear that he has no intention of taking it seriously unless the circumstances demand him to. This matches his character perfectly as not only he dislikes responsibility, he enjoys spending more time in the human world, with Molly than in the ghost world. Some ghosts do respect him as the chairman and we saw that in some of the episodes like Geoff's party one, and others don't, such as Jinx, which also makes sense. It's true that Scratch being powerless against some of the ghosts might not make much sense such as when he "fought" Blair, but you need to also remember that Scratch usually avoids taking drastic measures against other ghosts. What was he going to do against, let's say, Blair? Vanish her to another realm for eternity? He didn't even want to hurt the frightmares but they left him no choice, remember? What makes you think he's going to resort to drastic measures against ghosts capable of reasoning when he didn't with the ones that weren't capable. About your criticism of "I wanna dance with some Ollie", I feel like you missed the entire point of the episode. The writers made it clear that both Molly and Scratch were in the wrong here, but more Molly. "Molly was being selfish in this episode, to the point of putting Scratch in danger" Well yes I thought it was pretty clear that this was wrong on Molly's part. The show wasn't glorying the way Molly was acting in the episode with scratch. She realizes that she was in the wrong and "dumps" Ollie. Is not like she never comes to her senses. Scratch could've been a little bit more understanding of the situation as well. Anyways, this season hasn't been perfect by any means but I just don't think some of the criticism here is completely fair. I hope this comes out the way it was intended. It's just me disagreeing with some of your points. I would write more and go into more details but this is already getting too long.
@darwinbowman8512
@darwinbowman8512 10 ай бұрын
You hit the nail on the head. I agree with alot of what you said. Also yes that comparison to season 10....... nah🤣🤣🤣. Molly mcgee season 2 is miles better than that mess of a season
@DiamondDrizzle
@DiamondDrizzle 10 ай бұрын
I find it funny how you said you didn't want to end up writing an essay and ended up doing it anyway lol
@mr.punkie5872
@mr.punkie5872 10 ай бұрын
@@DiamondDrizzle haha I wrote a lot without realizing it. I wanted to write more too but I don’t think people want to read 3,000 word KZfaq comment nor do I think it’s even possible to write that much.
@DiamondDrizzle
@DiamondDrizzle 10 ай бұрын
@@mr.punkie5872 I read the entire thing- and you make some good points, just something you gotta do when your just one of those people who's constantly looking at the comments
@PlutoTheSecond
@PlutoTheSecond 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I agree with all of this, and if you were going to make your comment even longer, I imagine you'd have pointed out Ollie's development (Jay says he has none). Ollie moving past his indoctrinated belief that ghosts are bad to learn that they're more complex than that, is development. The next episode, we learn about his guilt, and it leads to him and Scratch reaching an understanding, which is further development.
@TinyRiver97
@TinyRiver97 9 ай бұрын
Talk about completely missing Character arcs. And wanting to prioritize lore over Character exploration 😂
@TK-zb4wg
@TK-zb4wg 10 ай бұрын
The second season so far is okay in my opinion. Casually it's still fun and watchable and I like the improvements in some of the characters and elements in the show, but it does feel weaker right now than the first season.
@oofjeff3735
@oofjeff3735 9 ай бұрын
comparing it to fairy oddparents season 10 is wildd
@dimentdash
@dimentdash 10 ай бұрын
Molly S2 has been good. The romance hasn't even been focused on since 5B. Molly and Ollie have been casual friends atm and there are still great episodes like the most recent one with Jinx, the thai one, period piece, and the indoor family vacation. Yes the romance is basic so far but don't act like it's ruining the show because it's clearly not. Also this season is Citizen Kane compared to Fairly Odd Parents S10 that's not an appropriate comparison.
@genericfishstick
@genericfishstick 10 ай бұрын
Completely agree with you. Sometimes I feel like youtube critics try a bit too hard to criticize-
@akilelawless8460
@akilelawless8460 9 ай бұрын
@@genericfishstick Which is why he hasn't responded to any comments.
@michaeltaylor788
@michaeltaylor788 8 ай бұрын
@@genericfishstickyea there even go after movies that did well .
@danson4774
@danson4774 10 ай бұрын
"ruined" the hell is this guy talking about? s1 was great and s2 is goated so far
@kirbystar7474
@kirbystar7474 10 ай бұрын
I usually agree with you opinions but this one I can’t. The ghost world does show to respect scratch like in the afterlife of a party or Jinx! more but the ghost council and jinx still hates him. The chairman role was useful against the frightmares and lord doom and wasn’t useful against others since scratch didn’t use the whole curse aspect against the story sprite nor Blair. The show was never story driven and had an overarching threat but most episodes focused in molly making Brighton happier. The whole thing about why molly or doesn’t say about the fact that ghosts used to live to cause misery but changed is that ghosts still do love to scare and cause problems like in frightmares on main street they made a whole game on scaring people. Ollie seems like a rehash of molly but we see more of him in let’s play turnip ball with how he gets confused by the extreme stuff of Brighton and in Brighton video we see him be more awkward and struggle to fit in with the group. Also in the 11 episodes or 20 if you count each half separately we see Ollie 6 times when we have seen Libby 8, Darryl 9, Pete 8, and Sharon 7 times as a important character to an episode.
@darwinbowman8512
@darwinbowman8512 10 ай бұрын
So of he showed up 6 times with the his role in the recent episode being minor, the romance aspect of molly mcgee doesn't really hurt the show imho
@kirbystar7474
@kirbystar7474 10 ай бұрын
@@darwinbowman8512 Yeah that was my point he has been there less than all main characters besides Andrea
@andresmcreviewer7933
@andresmcreviewer7933 10 ай бұрын
I thought of a great way to make Ollie's character actually great. Have a later episode of the season reveal Ruben doesn't want to fight ghosts for nobel reasons, he wants to eradicate them to make himself a hero. But in order to do so, he tricked Esther into believing in ghosts too and then marry him to start a ghost hunting team. And 13 years later, a viral video about a certain rich influencer befriending a new student catches his attention. (Especially with her floating around and spinning in the air) the new student becomes a renouned do-gooder, thus leading to Ruben engeneer his own son to act exactly like that so he can catfish her in order to see if she's actually involved with ghosts, but as time goes on, he acts more and more different from her and even changing his point of view on the afterlife, which leads to his dad to take more extreme measures, even going to Bizmart to team up against both Molly and Andrea's families. (Plus, this would give room for Jinx to have a redemption arc) Ollie feels even more awful that his father tortured him into becoming a little monster (yeah this is taking from Rocket Raccoon) so his arc is to find his own self and become a crusial part of the ghostfriends and even have great interactions with both Scratch and Libby.
@amadeuszpyzel7268
@amadeuszpyzel7268 10 ай бұрын
That's such an interesting idea.
@kmmk5022
@kmmk5022 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I feel like this would be a really good plot point to have in the show
@rorynari7218
@rorynari7218 10 ай бұрын
Oh, if only the team used KZfaq Then they could see this beautiful idea
@CatKun1234
@CatKun1234 10 ай бұрын
I think I was Oily awesome a little annoying but awesome also I honestly don’t like the prom episode
@kmmk5022
@kmmk5022 10 ай бұрын
@@CatKun1234 I think the main problem is that Ollie is too similar to Mollie. The reason why the other characters work so well with Molly is because of how distinct they are from her. Ollie would work if he were to have a more distinct and unique name, design and personally.
@andrewdailey3362
@andrewdailey3362 10 ай бұрын
Ollie can still be a ghost hunter. Instead of hunting ghosts he'll promise to only hunt bad ones. There can still be a clash of ideals between him and molly. Along the lines of "not all ghosts are bad, but not all ghosts are good". The romance between them is also kinda rushed tbh.
@lordfarquaad3385
@lordfarquaad3385 10 ай бұрын
I dont even like Ollie (dudes just ok), but my guy you are acting like he is worse than modern Patrick Star.
@knarrow0222
@knarrow0222 10 ай бұрын
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who noticed that.
@darwinbowman8512
@darwinbowman8512 10 ай бұрын
Fr. I honestly think it's not as bad he's making it. Especially he's judging the start of the season without knowing where it's leading. I trust these writers have a plan of sorts
@tb3411
@tb3411 10 ай бұрын
Worst video from you since your The Owl House pilot review. Also it's been stated already but comparing this to FOP Season 10 is an apples to broccoli comparison.
@jayfray1235
@jayfray1235 10 ай бұрын
I don't mind this new direction and I think romance seems to always get a bad reputation.
@erikbihari3625
@erikbihari3625 9 ай бұрын
If I had a nickle after every time alpha jay show was wrong about romance, it'd make two, wich isn't a lot, but still pretty weird that it has happened even this mutch! Anyone else agrees?
@TheWorldsLargestOven
@TheWorldsLargestOven 9 ай бұрын
5:41 I just realized that Libby has the same voice actor as Lisa from the loud house (Lara Jill Miller)
@MalekhiLee
@MalekhiLee 2 ай бұрын
I realized that when i first started watching tgamm but forgot until watching this video😅
@Landon_Dubz
@Landon_Dubz 10 ай бұрын
The thing I liked about the first season of molly McGee was how it was like a sitcom (but animated) and since it was animated, it was more palatable. Don’t get me wrong, there are ups and downs of season one, but the good segments or episodes stick out like a sore thumb
@ShrimpSalad1
@ShrimpSalad1 10 ай бұрын
I disagree. Well for the most part anyway. Ollie IS rlly similar to Molly. But he got more character later in episodes. Also their relationship moving quickly makes sense. They are so similar and it seems like they were made for eachother, so the relationship moving forward quickly isn’t that weird. And a thing I rlly like is that they didn’t get together. And after Ollie found out abt ghosts him and Molly went back to being friends, they would talk with eachother more comfortably which is great because it means if they do get in a relationship, it’s going to be more healthy. There were some flaws with Ollie’s character but he is a different person from Molly. And we see the differences in “the unhaunting of Brighton video” after that episode he was Mollys genuine friend, not just a character to be her love interest. I rlly liked this season, they explored new ideas and I don’t think it did badly like ur suggesting.
@tomkatt8274
@tomkatt8274 10 ай бұрын
OLLIE IS BETTER OFF DEAD! MOLLY IS BETTER OFF GAY!
@TiredMoonRabbit
@TiredMoonRabbit 10 ай бұрын
​@@tomkatt8274chill dude not ever main character has to be gay.
@tomkatt8274
@tomkatt8274 10 ай бұрын
@@TiredMoonRabbit its is gay for a man to have zex with a woman
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 10 ай бұрын
Also, this is Disney we are talking about. They like to cancel shows quickly so if you want to do something you have to do it immediately.
@ilovemydog240
@ilovemydog240 10 ай бұрын
@@tomkatt8274 what
@Commenter839
@Commenter839 10 ай бұрын
I don't even mind Ollie tbh, at least now that it seems they're doing more with him than making him a love interest in the second half. It's not bad imo, but I feel like a lot of the more recent plots feel rather underdeveloped due to the 11 minute time frame. (The period episode was particularly disappointing imo- it felt like the episode just wanted to have an episode to talk about periods, but nothing would change in the plot if "period" was replaced with the more general "puberty." I also felt pretty weird about how the first thing the show told us about June was that she's autistic, and then proceeded to show us nothing about it. Something something show, don't tell.) I still like the show, and I wanna see where it goes. But it's a downgrade from S1 so far.
@cAbLeBoX16
@cAbLeBoX16 10 ай бұрын
The autism thing is a really good point actually.. that could be one to two things though.. either June is just insecure about it, maybe from a past event from their previous home.. or the writers just wanted to make a character like that to represent that, and just blurted it out just because Either way I’d give it some more time though, it hasn’t even been half the season, it’s still got a lot to say.. I think.
@Commenter839
@Commenter839 10 ай бұрын
@@cAbLeBoX16 Yeah, I'm still hoping they do something with this tidbit before the season is over. I found this especially jarring because I started S2 right after watching Rise of the TMNT, which honestly has some of the best autism representation I've ever seen with Donnie, and The Owl House, which also committed to writing Luz as neurodivergent. As it stands though, right now the line with June just felt like a cheap way of scoring brownie points. I'm not trying to say autistic characters need a "reason" to exist or anything like that, but just that they shouldn't have specifically included that in her character introduction if they weren't gonna commit to writing a character with autism.
@mr.punkie5872
@mr.punkie5872 10 ай бұрын
What else could've they added to the period episode? I feel like you were expecting too much from an 11-minute episode of a mainly episodic show. There's just so much they can add within that time frame.
@Commenter839
@Commenter839 10 ай бұрын
@@mr.punkie5872 It wasn't that I feel the period episode needed more stuff added to it, I just feel like the central conflict could've had more to do with periods specifically. Off the top of my head, we can have an episode conflict about how period cramps can genuinely hurt like a mofo, but tons of people don't take it seriously. End it off with a moral about how just because you can't relate to someone's issues doesn't make them any less significant to them. A Period Piece, as it is, isn't really about menstruation. It's an episode about growing up that just uses "period" as a placeholder for "puberty", and it plays everything completely straight outside of that one edit. Even the B plot about Pete going overboard with buying pads could've easily been replaced with Pete going overboard buying deodorant, or acne washes, or something. Not a bad episode, but not as novel or interesting as some have claimed either.
@SunnylandProds
@SunnylandProds 10 ай бұрын
@@cAbLeBoX16I’m patiently awaiting more of June. It’s coming!!
@HazbinCovenWitch
@HazbinCovenWitch 10 ай бұрын
WHAT DO YOU MEAN RUINED!? I love the new plot so far. Also there was hint of a new antagonist stepping in. If anything the stakes have been upped.
@ninalove8521
@ninalove8521 10 ай бұрын
Same, I actually enjoyed it
@alecbama1
@alecbama1 10 ай бұрын
If anything, this romance has been pretty secondary. The real meat of the show is the ghosts, especially Scratch.
@HazbinCovenWitch
@HazbinCovenWitch 10 ай бұрын
@@alecbama1 YES! THANK YOU! 👏
@robby7499
@robby7499 10 ай бұрын
Who's the new villain?
@theghostwiththemost789
@theghostwiththemost789 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say the stakes have been upped. If anything they’re substantially lower. Molly went from fighting the ruler of the entire afterlife, to trying to hide her friend from her neighbors💀
@svxd7369
@svxd7369 10 ай бұрын
I feel like that there is a build up in season 2 with Jinx trying to overthrow Scratch's position as the Chairman because throughout season 2, Jinx tries to make Scratch's afterlife miserable. In "The (After)life of the party", Jinx "helps" Scratch hide from Geoff while it was obvious she wants him to get caught. And in the recent episode titled "Jinx!", Jinx jinxes Scratch until he and Molly tricked her into freeing him from it and it's revealed she wants to become the Chairwoman. And there is a future episode titled "Jinx Vs the Human World".
@dark_angel7162
@dark_angel7162 10 ай бұрын
WAY TO SPOIL IT FOR THE PEOPLE DONT HAVE CABLE
@kmmk5022
@kmmk5022 10 ай бұрын
What if she’s the childhood friend of Scratch
@darwinbowman8512
@darwinbowman8512 10 ай бұрын
​@@kmmk5022I've been thinking that 🤔
@madhavik4616
@madhavik4616 10 ай бұрын
@@dark_angel7162 dang chill out, spoilers are everywhere, you can't escape all of them. Also this info is on google, you can easily see this stuff there just by searching. geez...
@chloenieuwsma4846
@chloenieuwsma4846 10 ай бұрын
​@kmmk5022 I don't think she's Adia. For 3 reasons 1. Scratch doesn't regnoize her and neither does Jinx 2. She hates strawberries 3. Jinx and Adia look very different
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 10 ай бұрын
Alpha Jay: The Mcgees and the Chens are too similar. Me: Thats the joke.
@andreagrubaugh9699
@andreagrubaugh9699 10 ай бұрын
If I'm being honest, I like that Scratch's new role as Chairman isn't an automatic win button. Now, you did miss some advantages Scratch now has - such as the rest of Ghost Society no longer seeing him as a loser (as seen at the start of AfterLife of the Party where they let him cut in line at the coffee shop) or Scratch being able to perform more powerful curses, leading to Lord Doom and the Frightmares being trapped in things. But given that the Story Sprite and Blair mostly stayed in the human realm, it makes sense that they wouldn't respect a figure of authority from the ghost realm. And again, I like that Scratch and Molly have to actually come up with solutions instead of Scratch just fixing everything by going into Chairman mode. It goes better with the themes of the show (communication, friendship, etc) than fighting or any sort of Ghost World lore ever would.
@eddielennon879
@eddielennon879 10 ай бұрын
I dont think the show is ruined I think season 2 is coming out good and also the new songs are really good
@SYIBOI
@SYIBOI 10 ай бұрын
Ngl havent seen this show much really but when I saw art of Molly and Ollie I thought Ollie was her brother lmao.
@Gissegovy
@Gissegovy 10 ай бұрын
BRO I THOUGHT HE WAS HER COUSIN!!
@glimmerstantroop46321
@glimmerstantroop46321 10 ай бұрын
Lmao understandable
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 10 ай бұрын
5:21 I disagree. It doesn't pick and choose. Now that the original chairman is gone it is treated like a boring desk job. 6:34 false equivalency. Danny Phantom is a fighting show while Molly McGee isn't. Also Danny can go in the portal at any time because it is in his basement. In Molly Mcgee only ghosts can enter the ghost world. 20:10 Of come on everyone loves a good Chuckie parody.
@MONARCH_FLIES
@MONARCH_FLIES 10 ай бұрын
As much sense as you make, I still have a lot of hope for season two. I honestly believe that most of not all of the problems can be fixed with just a few episodes. An Ollie-centric episode is necessary for sure, maybe where he confronts his guilt about going against family values while interacting with them, Scratch, and other characters as well. And DEFINITELY- DEFINITELY!!! A flashback episode. This would help explain why Ollie and his family feels the way he does about ghosts. (Also side note Molly would benefit from a flashback episode as well. It could be anywhere from a lighthearted scene about the moment she realized she was meant to enhappify, to a full episode that has a more deep and meaningful message addressing her impulsive, perfectionistic and people pleasing tendencies) And THEN maybe during Scratch’s flashback segment he can really get a reason WHY he should be the chairman, because until now the council basically forced him into it. Omg I would totally love it if he could just STAND UP FOR HIMSELF TO THE COUNCIL because he deserves it and it would improve their dynamic A LOT if the council were a little less snobby and a little more open. Anyway that’s my huge rant lmaooooooo
@TiredMoonRabbit
@TiredMoonRabbit 10 ай бұрын
They explained why they hate ghost, one of them attacked Ollie's dad.
@darwinbowman8512
@darwinbowman8512 10 ай бұрын
Season 2 of molly mcgee has been a step up from the 1st tbh. The songs are better. The jokes hit harder and yea I did like the romance between molly and Ollie and how it morally tested molly. Yea I do wish they'd do more with scratch being the chairman but we'll see how the rest of the season goes
@elijahross9961
@elijahross9961 10 ай бұрын
Agreed
@michaeltaylor788
@michaeltaylor788 8 ай бұрын
👍
@Bobsburgers123
@Bobsburgers123 10 ай бұрын
I do wanna say one thing the romantic angle was a 5 episode arc at the start of the season.
@darwinbowman8512
@darwinbowman8512 10 ай бұрын
Yea it really doesn't affect much of the season 😂. I found it harmless
@SunnylandProds
@SunnylandProds 10 ай бұрын
@@darwinbowman8512People are missing the bigger picture, both with Molly and Ollie’s relationship, and with the Chens overall, and it’s infuriating.
@kirbystar7474
@kirbystar7474 10 ай бұрын
It realistically was only focused on for 3 episodes
@darwinbowman8512
@darwinbowman8512 10 ай бұрын
@@SunnylandProds this video was really hard to get through and I normally agree with alpha jay on his takes but this was not one of those times. I can see where he's coming from with Ollie but it feels like he's judging him too early. Also I think on some level molly was within her right to act like a selfish tween in the dance episode. We've all been teenagers and fell head over heels for someone. It causes us to think irrationally and that's what was happening there. She came to her senses by the end and priorities protecting her BFF realizing that having both Ollie and scratch in her life just couldn't work at least at the time. Idk to say romance ruined molly mcgee and the show itself is a HUGE stretch. Let's not forget too star vs exists and had way worse romance arcs than this😂
@darwinbowman8512
@darwinbowman8512 10 ай бұрын
@@kirbystar7474 pretty much yea
@tableturtle6663
@tableturtle6663 8 ай бұрын
I love how he says romance ruined molly mcgee for click bait and then just talks about how season 2 was a let down all around so he could have just said it was disappointing
@mastertjt56
@mastertjt56 10 ай бұрын
Well i understand your point, i have to disagree. Well yes Ollie was designed to be Molly's love interest, I thought it was fine. It reminds me of Big City Greens, they just had fun with each episode and occasionally gave characters growth. While the idea of a darker season sounds cool, i think that trend has ran it's course and this was a breath of fresh air. Not every show needs a huge plot of saving the word from an unknown villain or being. I think you're a bit harsh because this show doesn't seem like your cup of tea maybe
@michaeltaylor788
@michaeltaylor788 8 ай бұрын
👍
@glimmerstantroop46321
@glimmerstantroop46321 10 ай бұрын
THE NEW EPISODES WERE FIREEEE
@szilagyianita5125
@szilagyianita5125 10 ай бұрын
I especially judge romance as someone who is aromantic. I feel like the romance tie isn't that bad but it's overly focused on. I personally excepted a smaller fight/face off with Jinx, or someone trying to take over Scratch's position and turning back the old system, as we can see, he isn't the best leader (I believe he wasn't meant to be one). It could have made us have a conflict which could have been resolved, causing problems, etc. My other thought was going to be Scratch having an actual injury from the Chens/or Oliver. I personally still really like the show, and perhaps they are building up for something bigger for the season finale
@12MyNameIs
@12MyNameIs 10 ай бұрын
I actually think that they're cute together Edit: the title is really misleading Edit: the video is really boring, I usually like long videos(I watched a 10 hour long video about the economy in Harry Potter, and I don't even like HP) but I can't finish this video
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll 10 ай бұрын
Same. Ollie and Molly are cute together.
@glimmerstantroop46321
@glimmerstantroop46321 10 ай бұрын
I somehow finished this vid but I disagreed with so much lo-ol
@12MyNameIs
@12MyNameIs 10 ай бұрын
@@glimmerstantroop46321 ikr?
@tomkatt8274
@tomkatt8274 10 ай бұрын
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll no, molly, Andrea and libby is
@ilovemydog240
@ilovemydog240 10 ай бұрын
@@tomkatt8274 molly, andrea, and libby are just friends and will continue to BE just friends.
@Khaotic_Moon
@Khaotic_Moon 8 ай бұрын
i think the apperances of stuff that happens growing up is honestly amazing for teens , the apperance of periods was honestly kinda great as shows for teens have been avoiding this topic , normalising it is great bc then teen girls wouldnt feel as if theyre different and weird and that its a normal thing
@peacemaker2057
@peacemaker2057 8 ай бұрын
Fyi It isn't just teen girls who get periods. Girls can also get them as young as 8. I do agree that periods are a good topic in a tween/teen show:)
@casualcraftman1599
@casualcraftman1599 10 ай бұрын
I haven't seen this show but I saw Total Drama, Trent and Gwen relationship gets so much worse in Total Drama Action. The worst romantic subplot in Total Drama is Cody and Sierra. Sierra deserves a restraining order and jail time for her disgusting stalking. The best romantic subplot in Total Drama is Mike and Zoey for passing the low bar of not being toxic and not breaking up.
@brettglover135
@brettglover135 10 ай бұрын
as far as Gwen and Trent are concerned you can thank the executive producer for the way they were handled and for Gwen dumping him, cause the producer said they ended the relationship because quote we don't want kids thinking all relationships last forever.
@michaeltaylor788
@michaeltaylor788 8 ай бұрын
@@brettglover135I’m more mad about how LaShawna first relationship ended
@carlodavies9227
@carlodavies9227 10 ай бұрын
Never seen someone overthink a Disney cartoon like this, it’s an episodic slice of life show, it’s good enough.
@darwinbowman8512
@darwinbowman8512 10 ай бұрын
Literally this. I see the issue with ollie but it ain't as deep as he's making it. It's not like amphibia or the owl house.
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 10 ай бұрын
​@@darwinbowman8512I like Ollie fine. His redemption arc is cute.
@bumblebeeproductions1673
@bumblebeeproductions1673 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, everyone wants a Gravity Falls out of episodic shows it’s not fair
@bumblebeeproductions1673
@bumblebeeproductions1673 10 ай бұрын
@@imtheR3LER0feveryth1ng fr. Like people saying Kiff is bad because it’s a comedic, slice of life show. Do those people forget it’s a kids show?
@xeo3266
@xeo3266 9 ай бұрын
@@imtheR3LER0feveryth1ng Finally someone is saying it lol, and I'd even say the people twerking for every story driven show are worse than the 90s kids that get mad when someone starts mentioning shows made after 2003. It's one thing to back the shows you grew up with but wanting a network to be one-dimensional just ain't it imo. If episodic shows like Gumball, We Bare Bears, Craig of the Creek and Regular Show were airing on Disney and not CN, then instead of talking about a CN Renaissance it would be all about how Disney has dominated the past 13 years
@TinyRiver97
@TinyRiver97 9 ай бұрын
THIS SHOW WAS NEVER ABOUT THE LORE, WHY ARE YOU LOOKING FOR LORE IN AN EPISODE ABOUT SCRATCH'S FEARS OF REMEMBERING HIS PAST?
@jackomon1129
@jackomon1129 10 ай бұрын
I respectfully disagree with you, first I will say that I can see your coming from, your certainly not wrong about Ollie lacking character & having no unique dynamics yet (at least compared to Libby & Andrea). I can understand the comparison between Trent & Ollie (although I need to rewatch Trent, but from what I remember, Trent only had one trait, he was the nice guy), I do think it is a bit unfair to compare Ollie to Amity, as I would consider both Owl House & TGAMM both to be totally different shows despite been both airing on the Disney Channel. Personally thou, I'm really enjoying Season 2, although I will admit, I don't really care for the ghost world as much as I probably should. I will say that I do think Scratch is supposed to shown to be incompetent if anything, the worst episode for me (and there's only one) so far is Let's Play Turnipball, with my favourite episode been Like Father, Like Libby. I will say that interestingly enough that the romance themed episodes of Season 2 is amongst my favourites too. Also, the songs from this Season have been pretty good too, not sure what your thoughts on them are. Also, I wish you luck in the comment section
@Q19484
@Q19484 10 ай бұрын
This aint it chief, you aint gotta take this cartoon that serious
@xeo3266
@xeo3266 9 ай бұрын
It was pretty refreshing seeing most of the comments disagreeing with the video tbh The notion that everything has to be story based is something that should have died 9 years ago lmao
@taakofromtv150
@taakofromtv150 10 ай бұрын
I think Scratch should have been (reluctantly) trying to do good as the chairman and maybe have had a similar style of overarching plot which had ghosts rebelling in the human world as that would’ve given reason to an episode’s plot and wouldn’t have destroyed the previous season’s ending
@kirbystar7474
@kirbystar7474 10 ай бұрын
The thing is this show was never meant to have a true overarching plot. Even in season 1 the whole thing with the ghost council wasn’t that important since it’s only focused on for a single episode to give an exciting finale kinda like in early mlp. Even now we have three different villains with the chens, the mega store guy, and jinx and all of them will be handled in different episodes
@darwinbowman8512
@darwinbowman8512 10 ай бұрын
@@kirbystar7474 I think what alpha jay wants is more substance with the ghost world and scratch as the chairman and tbh I don't think it's needed?? Like you said this show wasn't meant to have an overarching story. And that aspect is what I like about molly mcgee. It's got enough substance and has continuity but not so much that I have to watch every single episode to understand where we're at
@kirbystar7474
@kirbystar7474 10 ай бұрын
@@darwinbowman8512 Yeah episodes 3a, 4, 6a, 8b, 9, 10, and 11b have nothing relating to story
@darwinbowman8512
@darwinbowman8512 10 ай бұрын
@@kirbystar7474 alot of season 2 episodes could be put into season 1 and you wouldn't know the difference
@kirbystar7474
@kirbystar7474 10 ай бұрын
@@darwinbowman8512 Yeah except for faint of art and double Daryl and trouble since faint of art would have to be after the best nintentions and the ladder would have to be after the season 1 finale
@M1ckTheMan
@M1ckTheMan 10 ай бұрын
"I will tell you what the season COULD have been". Okay I said...I was done...but...Rao...DAMMIT-THE SEASON ISN'T OVER YET! You're complaining about how a story should've gone when its only HALF way over, UGH, bad review, bad.
@chloenieuwsma4846
@chloenieuwsma4846 10 ай бұрын
Like seriously, that's a bit entitled 🙄
@LucasThePhantomThief
@LucasThePhantomThief 10 ай бұрын
Romance ruins a lot of shows especially when all the writers wanna focus on with the couples is relationship drama and i just get so tired of it
@ninalove8521
@ninalove8521 10 ай бұрын
A romance can be a great addition to the show, the problem is knowing how to develop it well
@eddielennon879
@eddielennon879 10 ай бұрын
“sigh” star vs the forces of evil
@deadgalaxy1
@deadgalaxy1 10 ай бұрын
That’s what ruined Arrow for me, they focused more on the Drama and OLICITY Problems than Oliver actually doing anything.
@yowonderland5710
@yowonderland5710 10 ай бұрын
That's why I'm not a fan of shows or movies that insert it. I don't care about the romantic relationship between these two people!
@RedWolfWindgear
@RedWolfWindgear 10 ай бұрын
Happened to Owl House too. If they keep that out of the series. It might have gotten 3 to 4 seasons.
@jesseakwaja
@jesseakwaja 9 ай бұрын
Bro admitted he has Molly McGee fans hidden in his house. 💀
@SpacemanFromHell
@SpacemanFromHell 9 ай бұрын
Molly having to choose between Ollie or Scratch doesn't "weaken" her character; if anything it gives her a genuine internal conflict, and allows her to make "bad" decisions. I'm getting sick of shows being too afraid to give their characters enough agency to do bad things or be at fault. It's a big problem I have with the Owl House, since you bring Amity and Luz up as the better couple; Amity is only a bad person at the start because of what someone else told her to do (her mother), not because of something she fully chose to do herself. Luz has this massive conflict about helping the bad guy, acting as if she's solely the guilty one, but he tricked her; it wasn't as strong for me cuz it wasn't a direct result of her will. Molly choosing Ollie over Scratch could result in Scratch being seriously hurt. Is it selfish? Yes. Is it way more interesting because she makes that active choice herself? Hell yeah. It's more powerful too when she realises the error of her ways, because they're hers, no some third party manipulating her. I can understand if this season is not your cup of tea, but I think you're stretching the definition of ruined. Personally I think this season is pretty good so far. Ollie is pretty bland, I agree with you there, but we have such a good cast of other side characters that I don't mind him just being there to further Molly's character as a bit of a tool lol. Also, Lord Doom felt more like a homage to Lord Hater, rather than borrowing or stealing from Wander Over Yonder (RIP).
@ZeoLightning
@ZeoLightning 9 ай бұрын
calling ollie boring is like saying you think molly is boring. hes very similar to her personality wise so whatever you can like about molly, you can like about ollie too. also the interactions they have are really sweet, they connect very organically with shared desires and interests. what is wrong with this? olie doesnt need to be a foil to be interesting
@GamerTowerDX
@GamerTowerDX 9 ай бұрын
I like rice but if I suddenly have to start eating twice the rice I usually have I would start getting tired of rice.
@ZeoLightning
@ZeoLightning 9 ай бұрын
@@GamerTowerDX depends on how much you like eating rice, cause if its your fav meal (or character) twice as much is twice as good. and I for one dont mind doubling down on my fav meal on the menu (fav character of the show)
@oofjeff3735
@oofjeff3735 9 ай бұрын
how about you watch the video before commenting this
@SteveEmeraldClaw
@SteveEmeraldClaw 9 ай бұрын
One of the ideas I had with "The Ghost and Molly McGee" for season 2 is that despite Scratch did not want to be the next Chairman, he does it anyway and that each time he uses the Chairman robe/cloak, he gets under influence of having that power, exactly how the old Chairman was, how they were silent and meant business and it slowly corrupts Scratch by each time he puts it on. It would eventually cause a problem that Scratch then tries to avoid it as much as possible but is always beckoned due to the rampage of ghosts, and have the other ghost look up to him as he does his job. It's just an idea I had while watching the show.
@bouncytheboi8175
@bouncytheboi8175 10 ай бұрын
3:14 You know, when think about it, Molly Mcgee & Chole Carmichael are basically the same character of; goodie Two-Shoes girl wanting to spread love & cheer throughout the world to the point being crazy & obsessive with it even when it leads to their own suffering. The only difference is that one of them was in Fairly OddParents Season 10 & basically doomed from their conception of that fact alone.
@mr.punkie5872
@mr.punkie5872 10 ай бұрын
Chloe ruined the fairly odd parents (the show was already ruined before that) because of the drastic change in dynamics. The Fairly Oddparents was NEVER about a cheery girl who wants to spread cheer and love throughout the world, as opposed to TGAMM, so I don't think that's a fair comparison because they're completely different circumstances. Not to mention when Molly does get obsessive to the point where it leads to her own demise, she usually learns from her mistakes and the problem is addressed.
@Stzrryeyed
@Stzrryeyed 10 ай бұрын
difference between Chloe and molly is that one of the characters is just written so much better. Both of them wanna spread joy and cheer in the world but Chloe is just seen to have no flaws and be absolutely perfect but molly has flaws and that's what makes her likable also the fact that she has to face consequences when she messes up. Also one show has so much better writing that its hard to compare them.
@Flowermations
@Flowermations 10 ай бұрын
If I had to compare Molly to any other character, it would probably be Unikitty, I mean both want to spread positivity and happiness to the world to the point where it can get toxic at times (Unikitty literally trapping her friends in a time capsule so they can always stay together forever which is a little possessive), and they both get crazy when things don´t go their way, also they both got a pessimistic grumpy friend, gotta admit Master Frown & Scratch would most likely be best friends bonding over messing with their overly happy positive girl friends (I say this in a platonic way judging by the space I put in between ¨girl¨ and ¨friend¨).
@glimmerstantroop46321
@glimmerstantroop46321 10 ай бұрын
Icky comparison imo, one is way better written than the other
@Flowermations
@Flowermations 10 ай бұрын
@@glimmerstantroop46321 Yeah I guess.
@skullton3292
@skullton3292 10 ай бұрын
Ruined? The Romance is fine, literally, the only people who have a problem with it are the people who ship Molly with Andrea or Libby. Literally, nobody else has any problems with the romance idk what you're on about?
@Kawaiipony_Productions
@Kawaiipony_Productions 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, even some people who ship Andrea x Molly, Libby x Molly, or Andrea x Libby x Molly (including me) don’t mind Ollie and even ship Ollie x Molly. I question what Alpha Jay says here cause it feels like he didn’t watch season 2.
@antennacosplays
@antennacosplays 10 ай бұрын
No offence but you absolutely missed the point of the show. It’s like you did not really watch it or don’t like character growth. But to each their own I guess.
@antennacosplays
@antennacosplays 10 ай бұрын
I’m trying to sound as nice as possible but your takes are all so wrong. You can dislike whatever you want to but spreading lies about a show is so not it.
@eglol
@eglol 10 ай бұрын
Romance being added to tv shows that weren't originally about it can be a disaster most of the time, but outstanding when it's handled well.
@nsaasuquo4181
@nsaasuquo4181 9 ай бұрын
I dont like mollyxandrea cause its never gonna work i dont like the ship at alll so please stop redoing lumity in another show
@nsaasuquo4181
@nsaasuquo4181 9 ай бұрын
Like it just not gonna happen like Andrea and molly are proven friends and molly and Ollie is a ship that I actually like so if anyone wants to talk about lumity part2 then leave me out of it and also am not homophobic
@riffraff7942
@riffraff7942 10 ай бұрын
Star vs the forces of evil: First time?
@ThatGhostNir
@ThatGhostNir 7 ай бұрын
i think this season is still pretty good, not as much as the first season but still not bad. what the season really needs is a story buildup for something bigger
@turtleneck6197
@turtleneck6197 10 ай бұрын
I actually gotta watch the show before I judge it, lol. I was barely aware this show existed.
@allymason2699
@allymason2699 6 ай бұрын
While I don't like the Mollie ship and am disappointed that it's canon now even though I knew it was coming from a mile away, I wouldn't go as far as to say that it ruined the entire show because it didn't. The Chens are interesting antagonists and Ollie and June are sweet and cool characters. I especially enjoy Molly and Ollie's friendship dynamic even if I don't ship it romantically.
@angrypenguinreviews2798
@angrypenguinreviews2798 10 ай бұрын
43 minutes of a guy wining about a character just for existing and comparing it to owl house with is a show that was really ruined by romance,. that is pretty sad
@ControlledSprite144
@ControlledSprite144 10 ай бұрын
Lol
@glimmerstantroop46321
@glimmerstantroop46321 10 ай бұрын
lmao
@akilelawless8460
@akilelawless8460 9 ай бұрын
Fr. Lmao
@szweetsztuff
@szweetsztuff 23 күн бұрын
how to at least KINDA fix ollie’s motivations: maybe a ghost killed someone he was close to or liked a lot (but if that’s too dark for a kids show, maybe the ghost could have ruined that person’s life, or even ruined OLLIE’s life in somewhat)? that could make his bias against ghosts more clear, and make a lot more sense on why he’s so diligent in his hating of ghosts. and he could kind of be stuck between wanting to get revenge against ghosts for what happened, or want to let it go for the sake of not only molly but his own personal growth + letting go of the past. and that would be a lot more interesting to watch.
@tajalbright1147
@tajalbright1147 10 ай бұрын
You should still keep watching molly mcgee all the way through because Ollie can still be developed don't let this change you opinion of the show pleaaaaassseee.
@Blackpapalink
@Blackpapalink 10 ай бұрын
The show feels like Master Shake's purgatory.
@limerobloxgaming8567
@limerobloxgaming8567 9 ай бұрын
its a slice of life dude
@lucretiaaudrey9314
@lucretiaaudrey9314 3 ай бұрын
What a bs. Romance didn't ruin Molly McGee at all. It was a very small part of the second season
@sparxstreak02
@sparxstreak02 3 ай бұрын
15:23 The problem I have with this ep is that Darryl KNOWS his actions cause trouble for people, he knows what will happen as a result, yet he does it anyway to satisfy his own amusement. Granted he’s 11 so I get that he wouldn’t realise the full weight of this like an adult would but he nonetheless knows what he does is wrong. A better way to handle this than just saying ‘Accept me even though I’m gonna continue to cause trouble for all of you’ would be finding an outlet for Darryl that curbed his need to get reactions out of people, like how Sharon said he had artistic talent - that would’ve been a great way for them to bond over something they both were good at & liked to do. Or have Darryl join a tech club or something since he was shown to be good at that as well. Being yourself shouldn’t come at the expense of other people. We’re all flawed & shenanigans of any kind will come as a result of that but there’s a difference between accidental chaos & the kind you knowingly create.
@knarrow0222
@knarrow0222 Ай бұрын
That's not the character Darryl is.
@kaimax3880
@kaimax3880 10 ай бұрын
What if the love between Ollie and Molly was a first love dynamic where they thought they were perfect for each other but to similar to each other they break up in a later season (giving ollie sometime to explore himself or after The Chens see brighton has no need for them they move to the next hunted location to hunter evil ghost qnd help good ones after learning that there are good ones and Ollie and Molly trys a long distance relationship but it doesn't work out)?
@shawnrezendes4645
@shawnrezendes4645 10 ай бұрын
Idk man I've really been enjoying season 2 i think its great plus there have been plenty of shows with a worst season then this
@s0me_Weirdo
@s0me_Weirdo 3 ай бұрын
“I’ll show you what the series could’ve been” *insert Reese’s ad*
@user-zz7cy1gc6v
@user-zz7cy1gc6v 10 ай бұрын
idk i dont like olliver's design he looks like they are siblings and it feels weird
@DiamondDrizzle
@DiamondDrizzle 9 ай бұрын
The arguement about Scratch being the chairman and only dealing with problems no one wants to deal with is fair, but I think you're forgetting the fact that this is a slice of life show, the story isn't gonna go through the same route that a lot of recent Disney shows went, and it seems you're setting expectations for the show that weren't intended in the first place Also about the Molly and Ollie story, the "very romantic" stuff only lasted about 3 episodes to then take a more platonic route (also while they still show that they have feelings for eachother, it's a lot more subtle), and I feel like the intention for the story was that Molly would rush to explore these new feelings she was having to only then take a step back and see if the realationship really is right for her, and since the dance, Molly tries to get to know Ollie a lot more which in turn let's us see the differences between them, and as a result, we learn that Ollie is quite awkward, clumsy, and doubtful but still incredibly sweet and caring towards Molly, even if it's sometimes a bit extreme (like how Ollie is determined to save/protect Molly as shown in "Frightmares on Main Street"), also I feel like comparing them to Luz and Amity is incredibly unfair considering how much more superior their develpment was in comparison to Mollie, but that's my take If you don't like the season that's fine, but don't talk about it like it's the worst thing to ever exist
@happaxgamma
@happaxgamma 10 ай бұрын
The Ghost & Molly McGee is a show that I can't really get into myself, but I hear a lot of people give it a lot of praise like it's the best thing to come out of the decade. And considering it's one of the rare episodic cartoons with a little bit of lore released in the past couple of years after getting a lot of story-driven shows (like Steven Universe and The Owl House) as well as bad episodic cartoons (like Teen Titans Go! and The Loud House), this show can look better. To be honest, I'm more of a Cartoon Network fan than a Disney Channel fan, but since they're barely doing anything nowadays it's kind of hard to transition to being a Disney Channel fan. I understand why people moved from Nickelodeon to Cartoon Network around 2010 for shows like Adventure Time and Regular Show, but I'm sad to see what the network had become in recent years. I've seen about half of Amphibia and all of The Owl House and they're pretty decent given my opinions on them, and Big City Greens (at least the first two seasons) is probably the best out of the currently airing Disney Channel cartoons, but there's something about Molly McGee that I cannot say the same about. Maybe because Disney already had multiple shows with a peppy female lead and this one's no exception, as well as a lot of them telling a fish out of water story (Mainly due to Gravity Falls, which is one of their best shows IMO), or that it has a lot of singing. Also I think this show's more suitable to a child growing up in the post-pandemic days rather than someone like me who's a grown adult born post-911, because I'm not really a fan of stuff like Fortnite and TikTok, so seeing stuff like that being referenced in a show like this doesn't really sit well either. What I liked about most Cartoon Network shows (and maybe even some Nicktoons) ranging from the mid 90s to around the mid/late 2010s (not counting any of the reboots) was that they could appeal to both kids and adults and that they could be enjoying the show for either the same or different reasons, compared to nowadays where most non-adult cartoons are targeted to just kids, and not the whole family. The best example is Regular Show, which is a show that kids could enjoy for journeys and characters, while adults watch it for the jokes. Even something like The Amazing World of Gumball, which isn't really too trendy (due to not premiering an episode since 2019), can be more enjoyable due to it having more attitude as well as having a good meta sense of humor. I also really liked OK KO, which was a love letter to CN's legacy, but was unfortunately cut short and even removed from MAX, but I think it could only work as a Cartoon Network show, and not on any other networks. Shows like Molly McGee are the reason why I don't want to check out stuff like DC Superhero Girls, Hamster & Gretel, Kiff, and even Pokémon Horizons, but at least they're not Thundercats Roar. Also, I don't like how a lot of cartoons these days are IP-based (with a lot being reboots/revivals/spinoffs) because they can be pretty tiring (especially the Animaniacs reboot, which tries to embrace they everything getting a reboot nowadays). I'm not trying to be a nostalgiatard, I'm just trying to trying to say the truth. If you enjoy Molly McGee yourself, I won't judge you for it, because opinions are subjective.
@mr.punkie5872
@mr.punkie5872 10 ай бұрын
Have you watched the show? Because I don't really see how the show references things like Fortnite. To be fair, in season 2 the show does reference TikTok which they shouldn't have, but other than that, I don't see the problem of referencing modern stuff as long as it isn't cringy. If the whole criticism is just the show references modern stuff more than it references old stuff (because it does sometimes) then you're just coming out as a "nostalgiatard" no disrespect intended.
@happaxgamma
@happaxgamma 10 ай бұрын
Not only that, but I kind of think the female protags in CN shows like The Powerpuff Girls (1998), Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi, and maybe even Infinity Train book 1 were better written than characters like Star or Molly. I don't have a problem with female protagonists (with most of Disney Channel's current cartoons having that) but it just depends how well they're written. And what I liked about CN was that the style of their shows looked consistent (especially in the 2010s), almost making them feel connected in a way. Also, CN was my favorite channel, so I don't think ditching them for a couple of Disney Channel cartoons is really a good idea, because that could taint my love for CN. But what else could I do (besides rewatching their older shows) while the channel's practically doing nothing new anymore? Also, I never liked SVTFOE in the first place, so seeing Disney XD advertise the heck of it, while CN began doing same for TTG during the 2nd half of the 2010s always kind of bugged me when I was younger.
@mr.punkie5872
@mr.punkie5872 10 ай бұрын
@@happaxgamma how were they better written than Molly? Also I don’t get this whole “ditching a channel for another one”, what is this? You don’t have to ditch anything. Is just watching different shows lol
@happaxgamma
@happaxgamma 10 ай бұрын
To be fair, I kind of find Molly to be a little bit annoying, as well as Andrea too. Not to mention, most Disney Channel cartoons feel kind of same-y, and the majority of the more recent ones can easily be compared to Gravity Falls or maybe even Star Vs. Cartoon Network at least had some variety with their cartoons (not counting their bad reboots). Like not all of their shows have to be like Ed, Edd n Eddy or Adventure Time. I get things change, but I kind of think a cartoon works better when it tries to be unique. Also not everything I like has to be necessarily Cartoon Network-related at all, but I'd personally rank CN over Disney Channel/XD and Nickelodeon for their 30-year legacy of iconic shows over the decades alone and not their current programming.
@mr.punkie5872
@mr.punkie5872 10 ай бұрын
@@happaxgamma I get that you feel this way but I was asking *why*
@Hiyoker-_-
@Hiyoker-_- 9 ай бұрын
“Tied me to my past” that sounds so familiar 😭
@Crystre
@Crystre 9 ай бұрын
I remember when Ollie was leaked, I hated him off the bat. Because Ollie felt like a straight up genderbent and I thought he was going to be from en episode where Molly gets sent to a genderbent world…
@deshawnedwards6412
@deshawnedwards6412 10 ай бұрын
Alpha Jay think you can talk about the new Disney show, Hailey's On It? You'll love it
@batty.b
@batty.b 10 ай бұрын
I am SO GLAD you talked about this because I tried, I really did, but I couldn't get through the Oliver episodes without skipping through like..80% of them. There's not a chance I could go back and really figure out what happened so this recap is EVERYTHING
@DiamondDrizzle
@DiamondDrizzle 9 ай бұрын
Well, Jay mostly complained about it and didn't really explain Ollie's plot, so Imma just give you a more respectful recap (forgive me if it's long, but at least make an effort to read it all): Molly and Ollie meet in The New (Para)Normal and quickly fall in love due to their shared interest in making the world better, but since Ollie's a ghost-hunter, Molly learns that the relationship can't really work unless he stops hunting ghosts, skip to Book Marks the Sprite, Molly starts trying to convince Ollie that ghosts aren't evil to which we then learn that he hunts ghosts because his father was tramatized by one as a kid, so he feels it's necessary to hunt them to keep people from experiencing something similar, and since he's so convinced, Molly just starts losing hope of changing his mind until Libby tells her that it isn't over yet, and then in "I Wanna Dance with Some-Ollie", Ollie and Molly awkwardly agree to going on a "not date" to which she then explains to Scratch that Ollie did not mention anything about ghosts while setting up, claiming it as being "progress", which obviously leads to a bit of tension between Scratch and Molly, fast forward to what happened at the dance after Scratch and Molly argued, Molly and Ollie share a slow dance which goes incredibly wrong because of Molly learning that Scratch got caught in a ghost snare, she frees him, apologizes and leaves, but before that, Ollie had figured out about Scratch's existence, and instead of telling his family he chooses to keep it a secret from them, even saying that Molly was "walking home with a friend" when she didn't come to their car, and since then they started avoiding eachother until "Frightmares on Main Street", where Ollie tries to learn about the ghost that Molly hung out with suspecting that she probably wasn't actually friends with him but that instead Scratch was controlling her or had her under a sort of spell or curse, so he tries to spy on Scratch claiming he's trying to protect/save Molly by finding a way to break said curse, to which he then finds out that Molly and Scratch have always been friends, and since he gets scared terribly by 2 ghosts at the same time, it just further approves of his view with him claiming that they only live to scare (I mean after an experience like that, wouldn't you think the same?), so after Molly learns that the Chens are outside (not with Ollie) due to the spike in supernatural activity, Molly tries to interviene and distract the Chens leading to Ollie then trapping and interrogating Scratch about Molly, Scratch explains his reasons which leaves Ollie starting to understand a bit, even protecting Scratch himself from his sister before she could kill him, and once June leaves, Molly finds Ollie interrogating Scratch and then ends up with both Molly and Ollie arguing about their views on ghosts, with Molly calling Ollie out leading to him feeling puzzled, he then says he was told ghosts were evil his whole life, and obviously as a kid, you choose to belive those things, but after a frightmare attack, Molly and Ollie accept both truths, that ghosts aren't evil, but also aren't always good, now onto "Unhaunting of Brighton Video", Ollie feels guilty after reconciling with Molly and Scratch and assuming all ghosts were bad, so after joining the ghost friends, he tries his hardest to make up for that only for Scratch to treat him like an outcast while Molly tried to comfort him lovingly a couple of times, so after they meet Blair and learning that she has unfinished buisness of her own, Ollie defends her and says she shouldn't talk about the things she feels bad about if she doesn't want to (obviously projecting his own guilt onto her), and after Molly shows concern for his feelings, he then confesses to Molly and feels a lot better doing so, and from there their relationship keeps slowly progressing as a more platonic one, though that's not to say there isn't a chance they won't get back together I'm also like 100% sure you already know a few things I mentioned, but I guess you can consider this a more in-depth explanation?
@ajmorningstar6281
@ajmorningstar6281 10 ай бұрын
Now that you mention it Oliver is underdeveloped the only people he interacts with are Molly and Scratch and in my opinion, he suffers from the same problem Millie does from helluva boss
@amarinreyny5316
@amarinreyny5316 10 ай бұрын
The Chairman thing actually kind of makes sense, given that rigid hierarchies that are intended to remain in place long-term can have its own long-term impacts not only on how a society functions, but how the people in that society perceive the functioning of said society. It's likely that simply not having a chairman at all is seen as something scary to ghosts, but having someone be the chairman provides them with reassurance that society is still functioning, and that the way society sees the ghost in that position is a completely separate thing altogether. The previous chairman was a ruthless authoritarian whom the other ghosts were afraid of, because he could and absolutely would brutally punish those who defied his word. Scratch, meanwhile, is not taken seriously at all, because he's laid-back, lazy, and just doesn't have it in him to rule with an iron fist. Think of it like the US government - the vast majority of people in public offices are deeply and consistently unpopular, and most US citizens regularly and loudly display their disrespect toward those who hold public offices (and rightly so, because the people who hold those offices are nothing but pawns of the bourgeoisie). That said, try to imagine how the US populace would react if all government officials suddenly disappeared. I'm not saying that society can't function without authoritarian rulers occupying positions of authority in an arbitrary hierarchy (I am an ancom, after all), but people would have to be prepared to live in a society that is organized to function without those rulers. If a society built around a given social structure were to be suddenly deprived of that structure, people would go completely batshit.
@TinyRiver97
@TinyRiver97 9 ай бұрын
You're just mad that the show is episodic and not story driven when it’s always been episodic.
@xeo3266
@xeo3266 9 ай бұрын
Finally someone has been saying the obvious, and it's pretty surprising people have been okay with this decade long groupthink that "everything needs to be story driven" Shows Gravity Falls, Owl House, Amphibia and Steven Universe would all land in the top 10 cartoons since 2010 and rightfully so but I just can't help but feel they're all wildly overrated when those 4 have distorted how people believe how cartoons should be in a bad way
@akilelawless8460
@akilelawless8460 9 ай бұрын
@@xeo3266 IKR?? People wanna turn down shows like Kiff and Big City Greens due to them being silly cartoons with little to no lore. It's ridiculous.
@alecbama1
@alecbama1 10 ай бұрын
Eesh. Be prepared for the incoming passionate as hell TGAMM fans who might take this the wrong way. They are a small yet loud bunch haha.
@mr.punkie5872
@mr.punkie5872 10 ай бұрын
I hope disagreeing with the arguments presented here doesn't fall under taking it the wrong way.
@glimmerstantroop46321
@glimmerstantroop46321 10 ай бұрын
I mean, that title was made to trigger lmao
@DiamondDrizzle
@DiamondDrizzle 9 ай бұрын
That's a fair way of describing us passionate fans XD
@3_LollipopOfTheMoldiKind
@3_LollipopOfTheMoldiKind 10 ай бұрын
It would've been if all if not most of the ghosts that were freed were being hunted down by a group of loyal soldiers or ghosts who strongly respected the old chairman.
@larrykoopa64dshacker64
@larrykoopa64dshacker64 Ай бұрын
Looking back at this video is more annoying now that the show ended (prematurely, it was supposed to have a third season, but the final episode is overall as the third season's final episode was intended to be) and had what is IMO the best ending/last episode for a show I've seen, considering the tone was very unexpected though one theory being confirmed was expected for me. Season 2 was better IMO than you gave it credit for (the end was absolutely fantastic), and personally, I feel your arguments were very stupid since it was such a small part of season 2.
@Syrupandtheinkmachine
@Syrupandtheinkmachine 3 ай бұрын
I feel like Darrel would and probably has invested in Bitcoin or nfts lol
@Lucario4thewin
@Lucario4thewin 9 ай бұрын
Why are you still watching?
@brainthebrian3690
@brainthebrian3690 9 ай бұрын
*Stops watching but keeps his negative opinion on it:* "yOu nEEd TO GiVe IT a chANce!" 😒 Please stop this.
@noli-timere-crede-tantum
@noli-timere-crede-tantum 29 күн бұрын
So... Basically the episode "Faint of art" is like saying, hey I know you're gonna die, but at least you'll get flowers! And yes that is a reference to Fish In A Tree, a really good book!
@kamilbrylowski3934
@kamilbrylowski3934 4 ай бұрын
as a non-US person What hurts me most about season 2 is that they changed the actor playing Scrach his actor from the first season was wonderful and the new one doesn't do it justice
@knarrow0222
@knarrow0222 Ай бұрын
What are you talkign about? They never changed Scratch's voice actor in the show. It's always Dana Snyder doing the voice in BOTH seasons.
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