ahmen

That's what I've learned.

Good! Glad the company was named and shamed.

Versa Dynamics is irrelevant now and nobody buys their turntables if they’re still around? The rep Steve had to deal with was a pure douchbag. Including conveniently forgetting the platter was missing cause he heisted it 😑

To call it by the name: lucre, the root of all evil (1. Tim. 6,10) The love of money...

And they found an easy prey in those wilt a love of conspicuous consumption. The whole high-end hifi schtick is all about conspicuous consumption. The higher the price tag the higher your social status within the high-end hifi hierarchy. The audiophile world is made of buffs who listen to the same few tracks on the same few records or CDs or SACDs over and over and over and over because "I can hear-see her chest heaving and the dimensionality of her ample b00bies shifting" with my new $25 000 pubes of vestal virgins Cables. I can also hear that she had had her tonsils removed a fortnight before the recording was made.

Remembers me another brand that acts even worse... Is called Apple lol

if you can't know for certain what a vocalist had for breakfast, the equipment sux

It was probably a distributor that he was talking to not the manufacturer directly.

Damn thats some find

technics turntables are tanks

I got a gramophone older than that.

Funny. I have a Yamaha P520 direct drive automatic turntable with a Stanton 881S cartridge from 1985 that I paid $220 for the turntable itself and still works fine to this day. The black plastic hinges for the dust cover deteriorated and cracked themselves to death after 15-20 years, but kudos to Yamaha on the rest of it, although the viscosity of the cueing mech is kinda wonky. Also improved the S/N ratio further changing the turntable mat. Always make sure your table is level and the cartridge is best aligned and setup. Periodically inspect the stylus under magnification, and keep it and your vinyl clean👍. Still listening/enjoying vinyl occasionally on it. 😉 👨🏻

I despise people like the one you have described.

ilikethisnamebetter 🤣👌🏼you’re gonna get the needle if you’re not getting your moneys worth in the stylus world as well.

RATT said that best!

I heard that one... heard that one... heard that one... heard that one... heard that one...

Groovy...

ilikethisnamebetter love it!

... And it breaks

rich dummies dont care wasnt thier labor . only thier money .

Alan ray Lol those "rich dummies" are probably many times smarter than you AKA someone who can barely string together a coherent sentence...

@@TheOfficialDaBoogaloo why would you buy an electronic item that is 11k that don't have even one year of warranty? seems like he has more money than brains.

At 11 grand lifetime service should be guaranty lol

hiro111 not really the same thing but 👌

Can you put a different cartridge on?

Crazy !

Affordable or not no way to spend that much for a stupid record player!

But you are all over those $10,000 ones aren’t ya?

Just bought a turntable off eBay for $47.99. Built-in speakers, sub, etc...

LOL

@@drgwhatsthetruth3783 that will be underwhelming... I would spend no more than £200 for the player though, yet again I'm not an audiophile so I won't get one anyways.

Funny. 👌🏼

A $500 turntable (like Technics SL 1200 MKII or 1210 MKII were) can be considered expensive. A $11,000 turntable sounds ridiculous to buy - at least for me.

$11,000 is silly for a turntable, but if you can find a Technics SL-1200 for just $500, there's probably something wrong with it.

Baladár funny you should mention the SL1200 - I bought one of those with a Shure cartridge back in the 80’s for I’m thinking $525 total, when I was young, single and had (seemingly) more disposable income. All a matter of degrees, I suppose.

ekim andersom agreed, and I don’t begrudge those who can/will. I had mentioned in a previous post that I had spent about $525 (I think) back in the 80”s for a tt and cartridge, but I still have it today and have had absolutely no issues other than replacing the stylus . All a matter of your comfort and fund level, I guess.

I had a similar experience at SuperFi in Manchester, England. Bought some Mission speakers from them had a great experience, really good salesman named Chris. Or Tall Chris because there were two guys named Chris. Anyway then I moved away so I wasn't in Manchester and one day the phase-plug falls off one of the midrange drivers. So I pull out my receipts and wouldn't you know it, I'm a couple of months out of warranty. But I call the shop and ask for Tall Chris and he comes on. He doesn't remember the sale but is nice enough to pretend he does and I tell him the problem. He says ok I'll talk to the manufacturer and send you a new driver. Shall I send you a pair? (Mission back then was an Anglo-French affair the drivers came from France, everything else was done in England). I said well I don't need a pair, why? Do you think another one is going to fall off? Does this happen often? No he says, first time I've ever heard such a thing and I know Mission is going to say the same. So I say I can send you back the damaged one if you want and he says look, lets get you listening to music again first and then we'll figure out about the damaged one. True to his word a new driver arrives a few days later, straight from the manufacturer. I call Chris. Thanks man, I got it, I installed it, everything works great. How much do I owe you and now what about the old one? He says no no, it should never have happened. The replacement is free and you don't need to go through the hassle of sending back the old one. Now that was incredible service. He took my word over the phone. He didn't even actually remember the sale. I don't know if he bothered to dig up the receipts from 14 or so months ago he just took my word and he acted. I don't know where you are now Tall Chris but I hope you're doing well. Superfi I know is sadly no longer around.

That's exactly what I was thinking as I was watching the video. What a ruthless SOB!

Scott Richards That's exactly what happened to John Bicht and Versa Dynamics.

@@magicmaestro08 Thanks for the info. Makes me feel good knowing he got what he deserved. I mean he could have tried to work something out if money was tight, or whatever. Especially after being such a complete Dbag, and putting the guy through all of that in the first place, and making such an ass of himself by "going to investigate". When it was all his fault, in the first place, anyway. Unbelievable!

Bill Gates paralyzed hundreds of thousands of children; What deserves to happen to him?

@@spahr001 Stop getting your news from memes you clown. That's a load of BS, and I believe you actually know this. You're just another lying right wing BS artist/nut job. Who likes to stir the pot. Nice try though. Loser! www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-vaccinations-depopulation/ www.google.com/amp/s/www.truthorfiction.com/amp/bill-and-melinda-gates-polio-efforts-paralyzed-47500-kids/ www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjb6tKwqd3eAhWtIjQIHfXnDZcQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pagalparrot.com%2Fbill-gates-polio-vaccine-program-caused-47500-cases-of-paralysis-in-india-here-is-the-truth-behind-it%2F&psig=AOvVaw20y82bUurq15MSvBV0rkAv&ust=1542609242438737&cshid=1542522841393

For 11 grand you should get an eternity warranty.

If your buying a 11k turntable, warranty isn’t to much of a concern to you.

It’s because, as was demonstrated, this $11,000 turntable was not reliable enough for more than a one year warranty. Just because something is expensive doesn’t mean it’s any good.

​@@axeledwards4162 .. Maybe not to you. Would you buy an 20k car and not be bothered about a warranty? There is no difference. Quality should always be expected and manufacturers should have faith enough in their products to offer a warranty and decent after sales service. My SME turntable developed a motor/power supply problem after 2 years. SME were happy to replace the necessary parts free of charge although initially they stated there would be a labour charge. They did the whole job within a week at no cost to me and also provided a complete updated power supply as they had experienced reliability problems with other units. Their warranty is twelve months but is liberally interpreted at their discretion. If only other manufacturers had such faith in their products and consideration for their customers.

TheOneAboveAll some jackass who lives in a frigging apartment in nyc...that's the type of tool that wastes 11 grand on a turntable.

That's not a Chipmunks Christmas 78, it's a 33 1/3rpm Bing Crosby Christmas LP! To be completely honest, I don't think *any* sort of turntable is gonna help you out!

....lets hope that's a joke haha

London liberty? :) I have an old turntable console i inherited with that 78 still on the storage rack :)

I agree. These videos are great. True stories are always the best ones.

Agreed, this was great.

I want to hear more about his Police Academy days. Mahoney needs a comeback/reboot!!!

HAAAAA hah

In fact it even sucked at sucking.

Heyyy...I see what you did there.

and demand a new one , i'd take this fucker to court and put him out of business

@Tony Jaksn pre-1930's race and immigration was still an issue. gotta remember the roaring 1920s and early 1900s you had alot of irish, italian, and danish immigrants. Even though they are considered white races these days, back then, they were frowned upon and a lot of hate crimes and racism occurred back then.. then before that, in the 1800s, you had the chinese immigrants, alot of dutch and spanish immigrants, and same thing, alot of racism and hatecrimes. So the moral of the story is, the pre-1930's weren't a great time, it was no different than today. only difference today is moronic white christians decided to hate on a new group of people. if american history teaches us anything, it's that white christian and English and central/western European white races are the problem... they can't live with anyone. They hate anyone and everyone. In the past it was Chinese immigrants, Then it was Irish immigrants, then it was Italian Immigrants, then Danish Immigrants, then Jewish, then Japanese citizens, then blacks, then hispanic, and so on. A couple decades from now, they'll be hating on a new nationality, while these other races live fine together and have no issues with eachother or have any issues with new immigrants. This fact alone should tell you something.

There'a always one complete twat... :/

@@LycanWitch "white christian and English and central/western European white races are the problem" because there is no racism or hatred in any other group. You are not taken seriously because you are ignorant to the point of idiocy.

@@SBCBears DIdnt say there was no racism or hatred in the other groups. However one thing that's for sure is that the minority groups of America aren't protesting, going in an uproar, or marching in washington or forming hate groups such as the neo-nazi, KKK, or other various supremacy groups. For the most part, the minority groups in America get along with eachother or aren't trying to kick eachother out of the country. Majority of Whites are the only ones who want to boot people out of the country en masse, build a borderwall, and isolate the country from the rest of the world.

@@LycanWitchThe majority of whites? Let us see your data for that survey or are you just making things up? And what country are you from?

SuperBoobaloo exactly, he already made his sale, he regrets even saying more than “that’s impossible.”

hahaha

$11k turntable with a one year warranty!

@@kielbeckham7189 I got the impression that it was a small company, and the salesperson was also either owner or CEO of the company.

Some record players are worth it. In 1976 an EMT 950 cost DM15000 ($5700), today that would amount to $25250 and in 1987 that was $11350. You would have got very good customer service though but they never broke down to start with, not even after a 3 decades of 24/7 use by butter-fingered DJs. The BBC bought dozens of them as did many other radio stations and recording studios in Europe. Probably the finest turntable ever made. They still make the legendary TSD15 cartridge by hand in Switzerland but not the turntables.

More like Luka Brazzi..

If the ICEMAN was still in business he would be the man for the job.

David Schomer didn't he just get knocked out by Tito Ortiz

I spent that on my last 3 wives 😂

@ First 10 cars.

I haven't even spent 11 g on weed!

Smart man.

@Steve Tllsdaleys it's not about how much you make, it's about how much you keep.

Patricia SMith ^^^^ This

Would you be OK with Toyota removing parts from their driven demo car's to fix your brand new undriven car?

If we could see (some) manufactures and dealer/ retailers through a peephole...

@@Dobermanator I used to be a mechanic, one shop I worked in was a Saab specialty shop, and the other a BMW dealership. In both shops we would borrow parts for testing in a pinch if the part was very expensive and difficult to obtain.

@@joshua43214 What stupid things a Company / Worker do is not relevant but thanks. Customers are what matters and Saab fooled people for years as a result you never see one but a few times a year.

True, however one has no bragging rights with simply gravity alone ..

I find gravity also tends to work just about everywhere too, and silently

A relatively inexpensive alternative to a vacuum is a weighted hold-down that covers the label area. Since not all LP's are flat this may be useful in some instances.

I've always found gravity to reliably stop the LP from floating away, but if you've got more money than sense then you clearly need a backup in case gravity stops working.

Maybe it vacuums the dust from side B while you play side A

And give me a happy ending.

Mmm although i agree there is a but. The reason why this is done, is because of retarded audiophiles (as seen in the video) These builders laugh their asses to the bank so not so weird. That they provide what's been demanded.

John Elrick a Rube Goldberg designed arm ?

@@ROTAXD No. it's rather good, you can find plenty of information on the interwebs. It is, perhaps needlessly, over-complicated in terms of the adjustments available and how tricky it is to adjust. It's one of those arms which will track a Decca cartridge, being quite well damped and the cartridge fixing being coupled with the main pivot. I'm just griping because I'm one of those minimalist kind of guys who values simplicity.

Didn’t Bruce Thigpen design it? A couple of years ago he was a real mensch about helping me get one of his ET arms that I bought on eBay going and ended up charging me less than his regular price for replacing the wiring, or giving me a free cueing lever or something like that. He is still in business though he has licensed his his ideas to people who aren’t like Monsoon Audio. Yes I remember the Versa. The arm blew and the platter sucked.

@@ziqfriq You could be right, I was following the info in a review of the turntable. I like the 774 but it's a bit of a bugger to set up if you're changing to a new cartridge with a different form factor to the old one.

yes it fucking should!! well said

WORD

For 11K I can buy a technics SL1200 and lots of prostitues with the remaining 10.8K

@@EnglishLaw Nothing beats a Technics SL1200MK2

@@mackjeez wrong. The Technics SP10 does. As do the Denon DP100, Nakamichi Dragon CT and the EMT 950. These 4 make the SL1200 look and feel like a cheap toy.

I’ve no doubt Singer did just that.

The Rega probably sounds just as good too.

What a disgusting prick!!!

James Collins I’ve two Regas, an RP1/Elys2 and a P5/Ania/Neo PSU, both punch above their weight!

No, the the bearings wear formed from unicorn balls and the needles were made from ground unicorn horns

Bob you´re spot on when it comes to that type of drones, I´m more into racing/freestyle drones and parts and pieces are cheaper but we crash a lot so we need replacement parts all the time... PPS.- Not made of Panda fur, eh eh

No, its Pandas make it.

nobody tell him about the Clearaudio Statement. . .

Sure, but then you can't tell your friends you just spent 11k on a turntable

It is a little hard to work up any emotion for the people involved. Considering the 50%+ profit on this sale between maker and vendor, arguing over who is going to pick up the cost of a $300 motor is a priceless insight into the insane world these guys inhabit.

@@randallstewart175 - What I got from the story was that some manufacturer reps are clueless assholes, and you shouldn't do business with people like that. If I was the store owner, I would have dropped the line and written a letter to the president of the company to inform him why.

@@OMGWTFLOLSMH the company is a one man operation by john

Randall Stewart it’s clear the manufacturer should peek the bill, they are nasty. Including taking the plater of a new item out it on a demo and selling it to a costumer as new

Thanks to the Internet, we can quickly find out the manufacturer's service record.

That’s cheap! Linn LP12s are like £18,000!

@@SvenTviking You mean Kronor?

@@SvenTviking...Over-rated

Manufactures can over produce anything and charge a premium. The same sonic results could happen for a fraction of the price even for a linear tracking table like this one. When I was in audio sales I could never BS about what the client needed and never over hyped so called esoteric equipment.

Good answer!

Have you noticed some hifi amplifiers models looks very alike, but one is worth $10000 and the other is worth $700? Well, the only difference between those are usually the quality of components inside the amplifier, so if your familiar with electronics you can buy the cheap one, and then replace parts with quality parts used in the $10000 version and get the same audio quality as the $10000 version. You probably wont be able to sell it for that, but if you want really good sound that is an option. There will be some costs for the parts, but no where near $10000. Some models are just overpriced. It has always been like that, its a shame.

Some would argue the same about the cost of an original Stradivarius or modern equivalent, but you'd actually be wrong. There's a huge difference between say a cheap guitar and a high-end model. And it has mostly to do with sound quality.

@@PHeMoX - Not $10,000 worth of sound quality...FOH

James Richard Wiley if a man has 11,000 dollars to spend on a turntable and he enjoys spinning records, who are we to say it isn’t worth it?

Are we really going to start this debate? Value is relative. Anything is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. People want to spend their money. There was actually a really interesting article I read about this software company that built an antivirus that was better than Norton and sold for the half the price but people wouldn't buy it because they perceived it as cheap. The company didn't start turning a profit until they doubled the price of their software. They didn't change anything but people saw it as more valuable because of the higher price. Point is people want to pay more money. They actually like the product more when it costs more. That's why apple is still in business even though their products are less powerful and more restrictive. People like paying more money

@@TehQSAclan - Because I think most people would agree if you spend $11,000 on anything, it should probably work properly and the company should stand behind their product. But maybe that's just me...

Congrats, you're plain stupid.

@ idk, 11k for a turntable.....drugs.....kinda makes sense.

My technics from the 1960's sounds good enough for me. I think calibration makes more of a difference than the turntable itself. But hey what do I know

Paul Callas AGREED 100% The folks at Technics, and parent companies, weren't solely obsessed with audio in the design and manufacture of the iconic SL-1200. I think that's clear. They were hyper-focused on a quality product that can reach a broader market. We all know it wasn't intended for club djs, but *shocker alert* an excellent product tends to be appreciated by most. Technics would give a nod and wink to several comments seen on this vid, for sure. They understood that it needs to be resilient, sound better than most (boutique decks excluded), and have components that they can turnaround fast if the need arises. These uber-expensive decks I'm sure are wonderful, but all the "engineering brilliance" and aesthetic devotion to gimmicky shapes, materials and *OMLORD* isolation techniques do not net enough improvement in sound to justify the purchase. It's as someone else pointed out, by and large, it's simply one of a hundred ways that immature wealthy folks, with no meaningful direction, signal higher social status. We all do it to some extent, but jeez man, spend most of that cash on something worthwhile. It's everyone's life to live so it's whatever, but insane decision making.

@@freshpow21 I do appreciate good quality. I would bet if you put one of these really high end cartridges on a Technics 1200 and another one of these super tables that the sonic difference wouldn't be that significant. The recording consoles and decks are less expensive than some of this stuff. Like I said before though, if it makes them happy and they can hear the difference, then let them enjoy it. If I told my wife that I bought an $11,000 turntable with a $10,000 cartridge, I think she'd divorce me, lol. Most of the items that I bought are second hand and they're fantastic quality, but most of it needed repaired, which I'm able to do. I lucked out in finding a Nakamichi TA-4A and a Pioneer PL-L-800 linear tracking turntable that needed repaired, but ended up putting an Ortofon 2M Black cartridge on the turntable and fixing a cold solder joint on a 5 volt regulator in the Nakamichi receiver, and it just sounds better than anything I've ever owned before. I ended up getting a Sony TC-355 reel to reel deck that I ended up paying $25 for and it just needed a couple of hinges freed up because the grease was nearly 50 years old and basically turned to glue. That is such a good sounding deck, but the thing that I find to be the weakest part of that deck is it's not 100% speed accurate because it has a rim driven flywheel for the capstan. I only discovered it when trying to sync up video from a camera and audio from the deck. It's not off much, and my ears can't tell the difference, but it's not right. The drift is noticable about 30 seconds into it. My TEAC A3440, which I got for free, and it just needed a belt, can be synced up with a video camera. I don't think it sounds quite as good as the Sony, believe it or not, but it does sound great.

Paul Callas again I agree. Bought a used but very wall maintained SL-1200 MK 2. I made some modest upgrades and made sure I had proper cartridge and stylus alignment. Next, ensure my media was clean. Just from that alone...WOW...near silent playback and gorgeous sound. It's fun as a hobby and the music is amazing, but it's not $11K fun. Haha

True dat. Ad the ~$1,000'ish JVC and Denon's from the early '80's were solid as a rock too. Technological marvels.

Haha likewise for about 17 years 😂 and I was doing scratching too but not like the pros in DMC competitions.

Many suckers out there mate.Keep spinning those decks fella.Respect.

This guy isnt a DJ though, DJ turntables and these high end audiophile tables are built for completely different purposes.

Technics? I couldn't imagine anything but rec-o-cut for a DJ.

Thanks so much!

Haha. I knew that name sounded familiar!

Didn't get the joke until I saw his name. Good one!

Came here to make this joke. Fine work. 💪

Thanks

I did about 32 police academy jokes about a month ago.....nothing absolute silence...and you get all the recognition!!?

www.versalab.com/VERSA%20DYNAMICS.html They seem to scam upgrades as well not just turntables :D

I was wondering why someone might want to play records on their ceiling.

@@EnglishLaw LMAO..

and spent the remaining 10.5K on hookers

You have to see the Versa dynamics to believe it. Insanely over-the-top aerospace construction and materials but much too complicated and labor intensive to set up and maintain. For lunatic fringe audiohiles only.

Nah man. Nah. Can't you hear that speed flutter that doesn't exist? I can totally hear it.

1200 the old DJ's work horse. Originally made for radio stations, then sold as HiFi then to DJ's because of the direct drive quick pickup motor. Built since 78 they had early motor drive chips in them. The rotating on/off switch cap can be pulled off a bit too easily though.

Cause he's rich I guess.

LOL, he probably bought reliable turntables like the Technics 1200!

That’s just where it’s at

Grant Marshall 👍

Should HAVE stayed in school.

*have

Or even a BSR...I bought mine in 1973 at a Rickles Home Center (yes, they had a Stereo Department back then) and i still use it occasionally. Played many a stack of Christmas records over the Decades.

Or Bang and Olufsen..

my 100.00 early 80s Dual probably sounds better

Automobilephools, motorbikephools, watchphools, photographyphools etc etc. The biggest phool is the one that puts shit on a hobbyist because normally that person is a Poorphool.

@@carmenandthedevil2804 Bullshit. Nice try though. NORDOST ODIN 2 SUPREME REFERENCE SPEAKER CABLE $10,000 PER FOOT. Case proven, mic dropped, thank you for playing.

@@wntu4 What have you proven with that reference. How many people or Audiophools do you know have bought it? Walk the walk. Don't just talk the talk.

@@carmenandthedevil2804 He's talking about the gene pool of the idiots who go out and buy 500 dollar HDMI cables because they think it actually does something. People who go buy 300 dollar headphone replacement cables because the placebo effect kicks in and they want to justify the price they paid. They're fools, and not a single one of them have ever provided a frequency chart to prove that any of it actually changed the sound, because if it did, it would show they were full of shit.

@@wntu4 Yep, $29,999 for 1meter pair. The review is pure insanity, as to be expected. Let's say the claims (subjective) are correct. It is almost guaranteed that SOMEWHERE in the audio signal path, LESSER wires are used, so the sound is degraded before it even gets to the speaker wires (oh, let's just not mention RIAA recording curves for vinyl). Then, when these "high velocity" cables hit the speaker coils, you have hundreds of feet of LESSER wire AGAIN. Talk about lipstick on pigs, or Eagles pop music on $200,000 speakers. Audiophools, indeed.