Sola Scriptura has caused nothing but division for the past 500 years
@boi__78982 ай бұрын
Its the liberalism of Christianity
@dodavega2 ай бұрын
Actually Rome has been responsible for division
@boi__78982 ай бұрын
@@dodavega explain heretic
@JC_Forum_of_ChristАй бұрын
@@boi__7898you guys are mentioned in the Bible as having a doctrine of demons
@NeilRaleigh17 күн бұрын
Rome has infallibly taught that Protestants are Christians in an imperfect communion with the church. So…what is this division you are referring to ?
@BeataeStigmata Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making the content you do, the argument against sola scriptura using the cannon is what first put me on the road to apostolic Christianity. The way you present the faith makes me want to share its fullness with my Protestant friends and family. I grew up Protestant and attend a Protestant high school, and I just want you to know that your content really helped and helps me discuss apostolic Christianity with confidence.
@VoiceOfReason_ Жыл бұрын
God bless you! Keep fighting the good fight. Know that I’ll be praying for you!
@MeanBeanComedy11 ай бұрын
Hey, that sounds like my life! 😎👍🏻 Remember: study your Bible. You *need* to know it better than a Protestant. A lot of Catholics say "studying the Church Fathers brings you to Catholicism," but the same is true for the Bible when studied properly.
@BeataeStigmata11 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWort your wrong, but sure give me your “proof”
@BeataeStigmata11 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWort 1. No it doesn’t, as I will show 2. Matthew 23.9 is using hyperbole to show Gods uniqueness, throughout the gospel Jesus calls Abraham “your father to the jews”. Also Paul is called a spiritual father of the Corinthians in 1 Corinthians 4:15 “For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.” He says first you have few fathers, and then say that he was begotten them spiritually , making him their father We see the same thing when Peter calls Marcus his son in 1 Peter 5:13 “The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son.” 3. Later in Exodus 25:18 God instructs Moses to make golden sculptures of cherubim on the tabernacle, so images and sculptures are allowed, worship of images is what’s not allowed “And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat.” An image is not graven unless the image itself is worshiped, but Catholics worship the one true God being depicted not the images we make of Him. Why are images of Christ wrong? If He could take on flesh and become material we should be able to depict Him. 4. You say rock and stone is different, Christ doesn’t make this distinction. In Matthew 16:18 Jesus originally used the same word in Aramaic cephas and in the gospels, which were in Greek, the same word was used only differing in gender. Peter and Christ are both rocks but in different ways, Everything is dependent on Christ, through him we’re all things made, and our life’s must be built on Him, this is why Christ is the rock. Christ made Peter the head of the church and first gave him the keys so all of the church’s authority hinges on peters, in this way Peter is a rock. 5. Merely having images is not wrong as in answer 3, we worship God only and ask that the saints and Mary pray to God. We know the saints pray to us like in revelations 6:10 when the martyrs cry out to God for suffering Christians on earth. “and they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?” They what happens on earth by the Holy Spirit like how Abraham knew of Lazarus and the rich man’s (Luke 16:25) life and of the prophets after him (Luke 16:29) “But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.” Luke 16:25 “Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.” Luke 16:29 KJV 6. Some people who call themselves Catholics believe this, but they’re not true Catholics, or even Christians. The church teaches and we believe that faith in Christ baptism are necessary for salvation as in John 3:5 and John 14:6-7 “Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.” 7. Only priests and monks keep celibacy, in fact even eastern catholic priest aren’t celibate, most of them marry. Paul says is better for those in ministry to be celibate but if one doesn’t have the self control he should marry in 1 Corinthians 7:1-2 “Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.” Catholics believe in true infalible word of God. We believe in Christ, his perfection, his Godship, and his sacrifice for us. We worship Him alone as God and follow his one true church founded in Peter and the apostles
@apostolicapologetics482910 ай бұрын
@@VoiceOfReason_Thanks for this! This question of canonicity takes one back for the need of a One, visible, divine institution guided by the Holy Spirit. Without a clear understanding of ecclesiology we are left as orphans. The question how do you know you have the correct canon of scripture should make the protestant pause. I always start with asking how do you know you have the correct new testament since it is a start of agreement.
@lifestylemedicinals869211 ай бұрын
I'm on a journey of diving into Church history and Orthodoxy and I'm blown away by how much I finallllly agree with other Christians. I've been non denominational for about 5 years now, struggling to navigate the True faith among all the different sects.. but I've come to Orthodox conclusions and beliefs literally just from the Bible and the Holy Spirit revealing it to me. I also noticed that the new testament itself is written in a way that implies that an already well established and widespread Church with a system of leadership and practices was present. It's not like Christians were following the Bible and later differed in opinion. The Church was already there and the writings came later. This made me examine things even closer. For a long time I've kept my thoughts quiet because of the hostility towards Orthodox beliefs in protestantism, but now after all my research, I have to be honest and say Orthodoxy is True. I've always found it very limiting and somewhat fishy to advocate for Sola scriptura and "reformation". God speaks and gives revelation in more ways than we can imagine. It makes no sense to limit his full revelation to a handful of collected texts that were simply compiled to give us the gospel, history and spiritual guidance. The eternal Word of God is Jesus Christ Himself. Any revelation coming from him, whether in the Bible or not, is HIS word, not necessarily "The Word". It's living and active like Hebrews 4:12 says. I love how enriching and clarifying Orthodoxy has been to my faith. I was beginning to lose faith in Christianity until i found it. All glory to the Triune God 🔥🙌
@BarendsZA Жыл бұрын
Sola scriptura doesn’t exist, sola trust me bro would be more accurate
@DavidTheZealot4 ай бұрын
Hahaha after conversion with multiple Protestants this is hilarious and accurate
@Charismatica Жыл бұрын
Hi man just wanna say you’ve absolutely changed my view of Christianity entirely and am increasingly leaning towards going to become a Catholic, a massive hang up I have is the idea of purgatory in that we are disciplined into the purging of our remaining sins, my objection to that doctrine is how is the blood of Jesus not enough to wash away our sins and make us perfect once we die so we can enter heaven? How is Christ’s sacrifice not enough for us to enter heaven? Thanks so much!
@shanksaelarion Жыл бұрын
Same here 🙏
@shortcakes6790 Жыл бұрын
This is super simplified explanation but Jesus saves us and our sins are forgiven. Everyone in purgatory is on there way to heaven. To be in heaven you have to be 100 percent pure. Purgatory cleanses you and it’s just a stop on the way.
@luxither7354 Жыл бұрын
Let me posit you this. Why isn't Jesus's blood sufficient to cleanse us here, on Earth. Why did his redemption not purify us on earth, and that purification only happens when we die?
@frdanielrooke3519 Жыл бұрын
You might say Purgatory is the same as a super intense washing in the blood of the lamb - it is the soul present before God being purified by the brilliant light of his face. This is the experience of the soul being received into heaven but 'the' Resurrection of body is a later event and will be either, for the living and the dead. The point being made is, you are correct! The blood of Christ is entirely sufficient for salvation, yet I know that I can attempt to have one foot in and one foot still in the world as though I am turning away from God in this life. Purgatory allows me to fully turn back towards The Lord - not an additional work of salvation, but an ironing out of those obstacles and of my running away following from the same work of Salvation won upon the cross.
@Charismatica Жыл бұрын
@@frdanielrooke3519 thank you for the explanation, I’ve come a long way since I commented this and I very much appreciate you still keeping with me. I’m sure your glad to know I will become a Catholic and starting rcia very soon so thank you!
@cubixcross3 ай бұрын
“It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’” Matt. 4:4
@limejeloАй бұрын
PROTESTANT RESPONSE: 1. Scripture doesn't say that scripture is the only infallible authority Response: Yes, it's something we can derive from the faulty nature of human beings. All you need to do is look at any other church than the one you follow to be in agreement with me that people are not infallible sources of authority on theology. 2. Scripture doesn't tell us what the canon of scripture is (what books are counted as part of the bible or not) Response: Correct, scripture is determined as canonical based on where the evidence leads, whether or not a particular book passes the tests for authenticity we run it by. A believer can certainly say "I don't think that should be canonical," or "I think that should be canonical" if they feel it does not have enough evidence backing it as a reliable piece of scripture; hence, why the catholic bible has more books than the protestant one. Though, if this believer happened to deny the canon of something essential to the faith, such as the Gospels (which we have a LONG list of reasons to view as reliable), they're probably not actually a believer. Now, one might say "If you trust people to determine what's canon, they must not be as fallible as you claim." To that I would say, we must all deem by our own reason what we choose to believe; God gave us brains for a reason. As well, just because people aren't infallible, doesn't mean they can't often be correct (such as about whether something should be canon). There's a reason the church still has authority; it just doesn't have a guaranteed INFALLIBLE authority.
@soteriology400Ай бұрын
The foundation of Christian beliefs is to be based on the prophets, apostles, and Jesus (Ephesians 2:20). When one builds their theology on “church fathers”, you create sources of presuppositions which naturally leads to eisegesis. This also leads to being anti-sola scriptura. There is nothing outside of scripture that is inspired or infallible. 1 Timothy 3:16 is what Timothy was to look to in case Paul was delayed, for godliness. This passage has nothing to do with church infallibility. In John 14, the Holy Spirit was to teach them the truth of all things, not the Gentiles (Jews who were stick of Judah is who Jesus was talking too). In AD66, the canon was closed. The HS no longer taught them after this, but reminded them of things Jesus said for the final 7 years they were on earth (during their gathering).
@NeilRaleigh17 күн бұрын
You entire argument presupposes Sola Scriptura, which you have not proven.
@soteriology40017 күн бұрын
@@NeilRaleigh Ephesians 2:20 (prophets, Jesus and the apostles, where else are we to find their writings?), Acts 17:10-12. The bible is riddled with the Jewish people referencing the scriptures. Nowhere in the bible that I know of, a person was the infallible interpreter of any scripture. That is total fallacy. Do you see where someone says 'go to Peter, he is the official interpreter"? Even the rabbis could not agree on everything. You see disagreements in the bible, never referenced a official interpreter as a solution.
@sakamotosan18878 сағат бұрын
@@soteriology400if no one can infallibly interpret the Scriptures, then no one can truly know all the truth.
@soteriology4003 сағат бұрын
@@sakamotosan1887 Nor can any institution.
@ahembajoshua3808 Жыл бұрын
I pray the Holy Spirit may continue to enrich you with His gifts, that you may continue to bring all the souls led astray by strange doctrines back to the true and authentic teachings of God (Apostolic Church). And to continue strengthening the faith of we the young apostolic Christian.Amen 🙏✝️🇳🇬
@tasiaflynn35498 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWortThe truth is hurts
@cinelli076 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWort where in the Bible does it say that everything is in the Bible
@jasonbell9975 Жыл бұрын
Great Video. As a Baptist Protestant and Bible Teacher, I agree with you on your second point especially. I might be wrong, but I think the official list of the New Testament wasn't authoritative till 367AD(In a letter from Athanasius). We owe a great deal of gratitude to the Early Church and after. Our Christian faith didn't all of the sudden appear in 1517.... I stay with Solo Scriptura just because God has been so good to me and I have not deserved any of it. It was the faith(non-denominational) that I took when I came to Christ to at the age of 27, and now, many years later I'm teaching my sons about the Lord with all my heart... I honestly don't feel like my faith is in need of a fix (ie Journey Home..etc.), but your arguement here is solid! The difference is that I firmly acknowledge Roman Catholic and Orthodox Christians as brothers and fellow believers, whilst some of my counterparts might not...God Bless You!
@bibleman8010 Жыл бұрын
sorry it wasn't 367AD(In a letter from Athanasius). sola scriptura wasn't herd of till Luther sorry again
@jasonbell9975 Жыл бұрын
@@bibleman8010 sorry bout what? .....youngsters😂
@bibleman8010 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonbell9975 tell that one to the Southern Baptists currently under investigation by the FBI ➨ PROTESTANT SEXUAL ABUSE OF CHILDREN: ● Billy Graham's grandson is an attorny who is investigating sexual abuse of children in evangelical churches and HE said the problem is WORSE in evangelical churches. Here are some statistics: ● ★ 7 thousand catholic priests were accusing of sexual abuse of children in the past 10 years. ● ★ TEN THOUSAND PROTESTANT MINISTERS were accused of sexually abusing children in the past ten years. ● ★ 200 thousand Public school teachers who were accused of sexually abusing children in the past 2 years.🤣🤣🤣🤣😆😆😂😂
@luxither7354 Жыл бұрын
The problem is that this was the Opinion of one Bishop. Yes, Athanasius was a great Authoritative figure on Doctrine, but he wasn't the Pope, and so the Canon wasn't defined until several local Councils, such as the Council of Rome, Synod of Hippo, Council of Carthage. Why does this matter, and why should this matter to you, friend? Because these councils also asserted the Deutero-Canonical Books as Scripture. As well as this, Said Saint Athanasius also quite several of these books in his works. As for why excluded them from his list, there's a hypothesis of why Athanasius excluded these books in his Canon list was because it was contreversial for Christians influenced by Talmudic Judaism that the Deuterocanonical books were scripture, and so to not confuse or dissuade the Catechists whom he was addressing in the assertion of Scriptural Canonicity, he merely referred to them as Good books for them to read. He also did this for the Didache, Shepherd of Hermas & 1 Clement, to which were also disputed on their Canonicity by Origenists and the like.
@mtb_kev10 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWortyes give me proof right now.
@munivisionmuni56208 ай бұрын
I always tell Protestants where does Jesus say in the Bible to read his Bible 🤣
@JC_Forum_of_ChristАй бұрын
“But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God.” Matthew 22:29 You don’t know scripture nor do you know the power of God…
@JC_Forum_of_ChristАй бұрын
Jesus said to meditate on it day and night… “but his delight is in the law of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day and night.” Psalm 1:2 Where in the Bible does Jesus say to follow the customs of men.
@munivisionmuni5620Ай бұрын
@@JC_Forum_of_Christ so you think you know?
@JC_Forum_of_ChristАй бұрын
@@munivisionmuni5620 “See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.” Colossians 2:8 Elemental spirits of this world are fallen angels and that’s the force behind your “tradition “
@munivisionmuni5620Ай бұрын
@@JC_Forum_of_Christ the apostles did not believe what you believe. It’s that simple. History and tradition proves it.
@Mortylicious_10 ай бұрын
Your videos always makes me double down making my faith stronger each time thank you for works
@erics70045 күн бұрын
Church doesn't exist without the Scriptures exposing who holds the doctrine and who isn't. If someone is heretical, it's only because he doesn't obey the Word of God like arians and gnostics. It's the Bible who defines who is Christian or not so the Bible defines who are inside the invisible Church.
@toocatholic Жыл бұрын
That's awesome that you found an honest protestant. Most just stomp their feet into the ground and say I'm not wrong your wrong
@toocatholic11 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWort 🤣🤣🤣 yes the Bible which is our Book says we will go to hell, how delusional are protestants
@evanmcafee-nl2mhАй бұрын
How do you prove the infallibility of the Catholic Church then? (Obviously I can see this being taken in a hostile way but I’m genuinely concerned how is anything infallible if not the Bible)
@owenburgen485618 күн бұрын
Collosians 1:18 says Christ head the Church, and 1 Timothy 3:15 says the Church is the pillar of truth. Also, the Catholic Church has nothing that contradicts scripture, and holds on to tradition, mentioned in 2 thesolonians 2:15, unlike many protestants
@erics70045 күн бұрын
As a protestant, I believe in the high hierarchy of Bible above anything else. Just like the Constitution in relation to other laws. But since God can't contradicted itself, any other rule from the church must be conformed to the Bible. And I also believe that the reformers are the sucessors of the apostolic faith, not Rome. About the canon, the canon was made organically by the Early Christians without any Council.
@lonniestoute87627 ай бұрын
I like bringing them to Jude 9 . That story of the devil disputing fir the body of Moses is not in the Old Testament. Therefore Jude used writtings outside of the Septuagint . They have a hard time wrapping their head around that one .
@5Solaservant Жыл бұрын
There is a Scripture, the Bible says, "tests the spirits" Is what the Pope, Pastor, Bishop, someone to be claiming to be of God speaking by the Holy Spirit or demonic influence? We test it by the Word of God which is the only ontological authority. Even Catholics admit this
@andrevaca670011 ай бұрын
How do you test it by the Word of God if you don't know what the Word of God is? And if you and others come to a disagreement, who is right? There were many writings in circulation and being read in churches, why would any of them be wrong, definitively?
@Electric_12 күн бұрын
Great video. I think Sola Scriptura is an extremely easy avenue to evangelize Protestants into Catholicism. It’s such a point in Catholicism’s favor that after a thorough discussion of it they’re often more willing to listen about other things, such as Apostolic succession, the Papacy and the Eucharist. I had a Protestant debate me not long ago on the Canon, and they bought in the Muratorian Canon for some reason. The Muratorian Canon is actually very strong, rock solid evidence of Catholic claims, as the Muratorian fragment it comes from references Pope Pious I, contains the Book of Wisdom which Protestants reject, and only has 22 of the 27 books that ultimately made it into the New Testament. I was so excited he bought it into the discussion but when I pointed these things out he flew into a rage and said I wasn’t even a Christian.
@timboslice98011 ай бұрын
I remember James white in a debate when cornered on sola scriptura the Canon got brought up. He said the holy spirit gave us the Canon not the church! Total L
@timboslice9808 ай бұрын
@CatholicDefender-bp7my yeah they tell him his sweaters are cool and nothing has really happened in apologetics since 1998
@Nil-Hal_Kiggers16 күн бұрын
You think the Holy Spirit dropped the Bible down from heaven? No, the Holy Spirit guided the church to compile the Bible.
@Anglochog1 Жыл бұрын
The Eastern Orthodox and Orienatal Orthodox Churches also don't have an infallible Canon. We can rely on Tradition without it being necessarily infallible.
@Bonaparte39228 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWort Your Catholic messages are redundant. You already made your point so crystal clear. God bless you.
@janettutolo3694 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the clarity
@cinelli076 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWort where in the Bible does it say that everything is in the Bible?
@KnightGeneral Жыл бұрын
A little something not related to your topic but related to your video. Why do you position that ring light at the back in that way? Hope you’ll put it somewhere else where its not visible in your camera angles. Its ruining the beauty of your bookshelves and your front shots. If you are using it for back lighting. Theres so many ways to do it than in that position. Im sure your Videographer/Editor know better. May St. Joseph provide you better lighting equipments for future videos (if you need more). This Channel will surely grow. Love your videos. May the Hearts of Jesus, Mary and Joseph keep you
@VoiceOfReason_ Жыл бұрын
Thank you! God bless you! 🙏🏽
@timothyoidtman5152 Жыл бұрын
Sir you need to quote the whole verse 1Timothy 3:15 if I delay, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, a pillar and buttress of the truth. Youn took that out of context
@meghannunez8720Ай бұрын
It doesn’t say it’s the only authority tho, it just says it’s a pillar of the truth, key word: A I really don’t mean to fight with u at all, I just want to teach the truth and prevent ppl from contradicting themselves. God bless brother🙏🏽
@jasonprashant6624 Жыл бұрын
The old testament was not determined by any council or magistarium of the church but it was considered canon by jesus and the apostles.
@VoiceOfReason_ Жыл бұрын
And we know that Jesus & the Apostles used the Septuagint. And, guess what - the Septuagint included many more writings than what is in the Protestant Old Testament. The Catholic Old Testament matches the Old Testament of Christ & the Apostles. The Protestant Old Testament matches the canon of the Jews who REJECTED Christ: a canon which was put together 70 years AFTER the time of Jesus.
@jasonprashant6624 Жыл бұрын
@@VoiceOfReason_ Sorry you are simply wrong the roman church in the council of trent 1546 officially reconized it then not at the time of jesus or the apostles. We know the scripture that was laid in the temple in jesus time is exactly the same as the jews and protestant today.
@VoiceOfReason_ Жыл бұрын
@@jasonprashant6624 wrong. The canon of Scripture is an object of the ordinary and universal Magisterium and always has been. The canon has been attested go over and over and over all throughout history. In the 4th century alone it was explicitly mentioned at least 4 times: in the years 367, 382, 393, 397.
@jasonprashant6624 Жыл бұрын
@@VoiceOfReason_ wrong the extra 7 books of the old testament was only reconized at trent 1546. You simply have not read trent
@jasonprashant6624 Жыл бұрын
@@VoiceOfReason_ The new testament was in a process of reconization by simply checking 1)if it was written in the first century.2) was it written by an apostles.The council did not determined canon but simply reconizing the truth which already exists. For example gravity. The law of gravity was there even before it was reconized. Later they just acknowledge that law of truth. Same as scripture.
@Un2all4thegloryofGod15 күн бұрын
thank you @limejelo. Why was there a need to establish Sola Scriptura? Because fallible men in positions of authority in the church were abusing their perceived infallibility. Every believer in the God of the Bible would have to hold up the Holy Scriptures as the absolute authority in the face of compromised church leadership. Whether you call it by Sola Scriptura or any other name. We love our church leaders and honour them as commanded in scripture, but we will never submit to them as the ultimate authority because that would be idolatry.
@user-qk7hj2of9b Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ is only tirue God✝️💒✝️💒
@janicemacias537310 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh... thank you thank you thank you..... you have no idea the beautiful impact you have❤
@kingslade4149 ай бұрын
Good points made but id have to argue you dont have to be catholic or orthodox to say sola scriptura is not correct
@IanVinh Жыл бұрын
Recently came across your channel. Keep up the good work defending the faith.
@ronyvb76229 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWorttranslation: do you want to know my own private interpretation of the scripture?
@cinelli076 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWort where in the Bible does it say that everything is in the Bible
@pribato Жыл бұрын
You have a deep voice, how to be you?
@vampyresgraveyard33074 ай бұрын
Some people say jesus didn't eat lamb at Passover it's not in scripture, i would argue jesus ate lamb at Passover the year before the last supper and the Passover before that and that's not mention in scripture so its also proof sola scriptura isn't biblical
@justreal4379 Жыл бұрын
AVE CHRISTU REX ☦️✝️
@lazycat-cw2we3 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWort Wie bitte ? 🤨
@Foc141 Жыл бұрын
Respect from Ethiopia
@cinelli076 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWort where in the Bible does it say that everything is in the Bible
@jlysc Жыл бұрын
Hello!😁 I love watching your videos on tiktok! I was wondering about the books in the background, are they Bibles or encyclopedias? I would love to know so I could look into them and read them!📖
@Patrickshurina4 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWort Judge not lest your yourself be judged my friend, for the measure with which you measure, shall be measured out to you... Please stop spreading literal hate. That is the last thing Christ wants, especially when you clearly don't understand that which you are rallying against.
@LaurenceNaseb-si7nl2 ай бұрын
Don't be surprised if you end up alone in that ,You have no grounds to say the Catholics will go to hell ,my advice is remember the parable Jesus made about to men going to the temple to pray
@DanielDiaz-uw2ob2 ай бұрын
Compelling reasoning. Respectful tone. Keep up the good work. God Bless you.
@marissabuyao209211 ай бұрын
Always interesting to listen to you
@cinelli076 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWort where in the Bible does it say that everything is in the Bible
@boi__78982 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWortyou one of those crazy ones who twitch during church huh
@5Solaservant Жыл бұрын
The Canon is definitive because both RCC and Protestants both agree on the Canon
@florelenav58196 ай бұрын
We don't agree, catholic canon has more books
@joelauretta40672 күн бұрын
Let me ask you this. Is there any lacking in the 66 books called the cannon ? Does it actually cover everything for life and godliness ? Because that's what matters. So if that's what matters, then why add anything else ?
@jasonprashant6624 Жыл бұрын
The minute you critize sola scripture,you are talking heresy. That is how jesus defined it. John 17:17 Sanctify them by your truth, your word is truth.
@bibleman8010 Жыл бұрын
cant find your sola scripture in the bible
@jasonprashant6624 Жыл бұрын
@@bibleman8010 1 cor 4:6 Do not exceed that which is written.
@VoiceOfReason_ Жыл бұрын
John 17:17 is not the definition of Sola Scripture…I gave the definition in the video. I have never heard a single Protestant defend Sola Scriptura with John 17:17.
@jasonprashant6624 Жыл бұрын
@@VoiceOfReason_ Scripture defined scriptures not people. And the basis jesus use is scripture John 17:17
@VoiceOfReason_ Жыл бұрын
@@jasonprashant6624 the question isn’t about the ontology of Scripture, it’s about the epistemology of Scripture, that is, how do we know that Scripture IS Scripture. Where is the Canon in the Bible?
@jasonprashant6624 Жыл бұрын
Jude 3 Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.
@VoiceOfReason_ Жыл бұрын
Is this supposed to prove Sola Scriptura? It doesn’t. The definition is not in this verse.
@jasonprashant6624 Жыл бұрын
@@VoiceOfReason_ The defination of the ending of orthodoxy or faith and morals has ended with the dead of the last apostle.
@chiefxim11 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWortyea
@chiefxim11 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWort i see, ill keep this in mind and look into it
@itendock558210 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWort nothing the catholic church teaches contradicts the bible. You are the ignorant one
@Jay-bp1yx10 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work my guy
@Roberts_JourneyАй бұрын
Take the video down. 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. There is nothing besides the bible which can be used to make you complete.
@matthewkramer997510 ай бұрын
I am a convert to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints from Protestantism. I really enjoy your videos and your explanations, I have never found a Protestant who could give an satisfying answer to the case of Sola Scripture or faith alone. And if the Bible is the only rule of faith then why is Christ divided amongst the Protestants, they say they are one with minor differences, but nothing could be further from the truth. I found thing I appreciate about our two faiths, yes I acknowledge that according to you I’m a heretic which I disagree with. But at least in both Catholic and Mormon traditions, we acknowledge the importance of Church authority, and Priesthood and it must be conducted through proper channels. The Protestants will accept any Tom, Dick and Harry then succumb to the scariest ideal, as long as they can string a list of verse from the Bible for the position. Which is how the Devil works. And let’s not forget all the people Luther, John Calvin and their followers murdered and in brutal ways for rejecting of their new position.
@romualdspizans316310 ай бұрын
Im gonna be frank with you my friend.First of all there is no similarities between catholic faith and mormonism.Mormonism is another religion just like islam,catholic and Orthodox extra sources or tradition does not contradict scriptures.But book of mormon does,if you believe in scriptures than you have to reject book of mormon or the other way around.J.Smith was not a priest or even baptised,so there is no apostolic succesion if you imply importance of priesthood
@matthewkramer997510 ай бұрын
@@romualdspizans3163 I’m going to be Frank now with you my friend. It’s seems that you know nothing of my faith. If you wish to know how Joseph received the priesthood, I would be happy to have a conversation with you about it. And the Book of Mormon is another testimony of Jesus Christ. I am not looking to debate. I am not at the mercy of an opinion of someone who has not investigated my faith, no has not seen the visions that I’ve seen. God bless you on your spiritual journey my brother.
@romualdspizans316310 ай бұрын
@@matthewkramer9975 i know enough about mormonism to assume of what it is.First of all there is clearly written in scriptures that there will be no another revelations or testimonies.But there is warning about false christs and prophets.The most awkward idea in mormonism even by heretical standards that the man can be elevated to a godhood or become a divine,creator..with his own planet.I mean isnt that technically also polytheism..?Then biblical Hebrew prophets in americas,polygamy,golden plates nobody have seen.I mean you can say thats not the case,but its not like i made it that up
@Bonaparte39228 ай бұрын
@@romualdspizans3163 Greetings. I love you in the Lord, but we have a different God. We can't be brothers. You know the truth, but you decided to relinquish it. I wish you the best of luck in the next life. God bless you.
@oryon650210 ай бұрын
I have a question, do Christians have restrictions regarding what they can eat? I'm currently reading Leviticus and I'm kind of lost now 😅
@Jay33_9 ай бұрын
Nope because those were ceremonial laws for the nation of Israel specifically to distinguish them from the pagan nations around them, and therefore not binding on all Christians for all time, only for Israel at that specific time. And that is also the old covenant. We are under the new covenant that Jesus Christ instituted and those laws no longer apply to us, since we are not the nation of Israel and God purpose for us right now is not the same he had for Israel pre-Jesus. Hope this helped👍
@Saul-StPaulАй бұрын
I almost fell out of the true church because of this. Solo Scriptura and is not enough to have any Christian faith. We need to have other writing that others received from the church fathers and even verbal practices of the early church not included in the Bible. This didn’t click to me before until you start reading the early church fathers.
@Burberryharry9 ай бұрын
I would check out Steve Christies work on the cannon
@dodavega2 ай бұрын
Didn’t make a lot of sense. Much poor reasoning. 😢Paul complimented the Bereans because they searched Scripture to see if what he said was true and Paul received his doctrines directly from the post resurrected Jesus. If Paul said he should be checked against scripture then that sounds like a good plan! Who in Rome can ever say they spoke directly with God?
@timothyoidtman5152 Жыл бұрын
It is the living word
@jasonprashant6624 Жыл бұрын
1 Corinthians 4:6 Now these things, brothers and sisters, I have figuratively applied to myself and Apollos on your account, so that in us you may learn not to exceed what is written, so that no one of you will become arrogant in behalf of one against the other.
@VoiceOfReason_ Жыл бұрын
This verse does not prove Sola Scriptura, and not a single Protestant reformer ever appealed to this verse to defend Sola Scriptura.
@CatholicProdigal Жыл бұрын
What translation are you using? But these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollo, for your sakes; that in us you may learn, that one be not puffed up against the other for another, above that which is written [1 Corinthians 4:6]
@jeremyloo10 Жыл бұрын
All right bro. Next video- Novus Ordo vs TLM vs SSPX. Your take on each✝️
@logicus.thomistica Жыл бұрын
TLM
@logicus.thomistica Жыл бұрын
SSPX is heresy, NO is a but weak in terms of strictness (still valid however!), but TLM is not heretical yet remains strict
@DieBibelistGottesWort where in the Bible does it say that everything is in the Bible
@ciaran4217 Жыл бұрын
What do I do if my church doesn’t have confession?
@iu91429 ай бұрын
Set up an appointment with the priest
@iu91429 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWortyes
@BensWorkshop3 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWort Lol! Buffoon.
@BensWorkshop3 ай бұрын
If it is a Catholic Church see if it has "Reconciliation". Different word for confession. Confused me for a bit too.
@epicdailycatholic Жыл бұрын
Great video brother! 🙏🏼
@pete8684 Жыл бұрын
The actual logical conclusion of Sola Scripture leads to relevatism. One can make Scripture whatever they want it to be. Sounds very similar to the alphabetic. gender movement seperating itself from the truth.
@pete868411 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWort your trolling in writing the same comment to every reply in this video will only promote the channel via KZfaqs algorithms. Another example of evil being used to bring out a greater good. I will pray for your true repentance so you are not judged for spreading lies. God bless.
@MarathonMadeGalatians5-223 күн бұрын
Here I am Lord send me - YT channel would disagree with this
@user-hm1is7xq4h Жыл бұрын
God bless you
@cinelli076 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWort where in the Bible does it say that everything is in the Bible
@historyww2 Жыл бұрын
Opinion about the YOUCAT book?
@iitzDipsy Жыл бұрын
Can you talk about oneness and trinity please . And god bless you
@sherin520110 ай бұрын
Oneness is cult
@tomtemple697 ай бұрын
This video just affirmed sola Scriptura for me 😂
@oamemooketsane69665 ай бұрын
If using the reasoning that sola scriptura is not vaild because it is not there in the bible, then using that logic we shouldn't believe in the holy trinity because it also is not in the bible
@darrellperez10295 ай бұрын
More than the Trinity for that one.
@yblackie6 ай бұрын
If Jesus promised the apostles the Holy Spirit who would lead them into all truth, what would the Holy Spirit lead the other Christians who later received the Holy Spirit into?
@bridgefin2 ай бұрын
He wouldn't. They did not get the promise from Jesus. They had the capacity to follow and have a chance or rebel and assume the position of goat.
@yblackie2 ай бұрын
@@bridgefin So you're saying the Holy Spirit would lead the apostles into all truth but He wouldn't lead the other Christians into all truth?
@bridgefin2 ай бұрын
@@yblackie You: So you're saying the Holy Spirit would lead the apostles into all truth but He wouldn't lead the other Christians into all truth? Me: Of course, that's what Scripture says. Isn't it perfectly clear with 40,000 contradictory denominations that the Holy Spirit is protecting no one there? And the 40,000 number assumes that everyone in every denomination completely agrees with it. There is no way that is true. There are millions of faith systems and God is clearly not protecting that confusion.
@Nil-Hal_Kiggers16 күн бұрын
@@yblackie Easy. It wasn't the Holy Spirit. Not everything that you do is because of the Holy Spirit.
@shanksaelarion Жыл бұрын
Please make an instagram !!!
@martapfahl9407 ай бұрын
My beloved catholic brother in Christ, then please explain to me why the bible even claims to be sola scriptura: 1. Corinthians 4,6 Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, “Do not go beyond what is written.” Then you will not be puffed up in being a follower of one of us over against the other.
@vsklblos80604 ай бұрын
Well, you need to prove that “do not go beyond what is written” mean that “in all cases when when we are talking about doctrines of faith you can not go beyond books of bible” And context simply do not talk about this. Issue of Corinthians was pride, not bad doctrines. There are many interpretations of this passage, but given above, we can exclude “sola scriptura” one. It do not fit there. I think most probable is that he was referring to scriptural citations about pride he made previously in letter.
@martapfahl9404 ай бұрын
@@vsklblos8060 I dont say that doctrines are generally bad. If they actually ALIGN with scripture they are awesome. But there is no logic way of putting tradition and doctrines on the same level as scripture. If it would be on the same level, it would be PART of holy scripture. But many christians put more load and weight onto believers just like pharisees and Jesus extremely criticized them for that. Most of them dont even hold it theirselves. Many catholic priests abuse and rape children. No way I trust these people. The only thing I trust is the word of God!
@jakeh284811 ай бұрын
Sola scriptura can be proven wrong in 30 seconds with one verse. And no one ever references it ever It's that last verse in the gospel of john, 21:25 There are also many other things that Jesus did, but if these were to be described individually, I do not think the whole world would contain the books that would be written.
@jakeh284811 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWort clearly you can't read. You don't have the spirit. The first protestants broke off. Added to scripture. You can get mad all you want but that's what Jesus said not me. That doesn't mean your not gonna go to heaven. Just means your on milk. Jesus says unless you eat of my flesh and drink of my blood you do not have life within you. you must eat my flesh and drink my blood as a part of the new and everlasting covenant to have eternal life, do this in remembrance of Me. You can't physically do a symbol. The context is literal and corelates with passover. Truth is truth and come from Christ not all truth is written down. John 21:25 proving Solas scriptura absolutely heretical. Says Jesus did more than what's written. Obviously he did since he's the truth. Do you realize God told the jews to build a bronze serpent and to come and gaze at in to fix their snake bites in thebdessert with moses. Or how bout when they established the building of the temple and ark by Gods instructions. There were statues of angels on the ark and in the temple. That God commanded to be built. Rev 5 8 says the Holy ones lift up there bowls of incense which are their prayers. Who would the be praying for if the saints are already In Heaven and perfect? Don't be niave the truth is as simple as looking for the correct answer it's not a protestant metaphor. Again the church Is his bride. He dies not permit divorce.
@jakeh284811 ай бұрын
We honor mary for christ honored her by the Commandments he honored his father and mother equally. We follow christ. We live in conformity to him. We love what he loves and honor what he honored. To be like him. You hate his mother when you tie us into worship of her. He honor her you accuse like a snake does. Incorrectly. We honor her. Unlike you. Jesus respects are honor of his mother. As you would yours.
@jakeh284811 ай бұрын
For the record. Jesus words are the words. Not Bible just recounts them.
@antonysanchez8297 Жыл бұрын
Hello Brot... the term Sola Scripture is: The Sufficiency of what is Old and New Testament, to Believe, Learn and Obey. You understand? The problem for you papists and other Christians is to raise tradition to the same level as the Word of God. do you understand? Greetings my Brot, -Soli †Deo Gloria-
@bibleman8010 Жыл бұрын
Holy Scripture specifically says to keep the traditions with which you have been taught, which are the Apostolic traditions, and to reject man made traditions. Interestingly, the false doctrine of 'Sola Scriptura', is a man made tradition with its origin at the beginning of the Protestant Reformation. Using the reformers very own rules, 'Sola Scriptura' should then be condemned by themselves.😎😎
@BKT_04 Жыл бұрын
The thing is, the church wrote the New Testament, in many cases tradition is just as old or older and tradition is also backed by scripture
@bibleman8010 Жыл бұрын
@@BKT_04 The NT is Oral tradition written down
@BKT_04 Жыл бұрын
@@bibleman8010 no the apostles themselves wrote it down, but you are part right because the writings weren’t spread so many churches went of oral tradition until they had a full bible
@bibleman8010 Жыл бұрын
@@BKT_04 Before it was written down it was oral hence oral tradition written down in fact the NT was finished till about 100 AD😉😉
@darrellperez10295 ай бұрын
One passage to defy the good ol' sola. 2 Thessolonians 2:15 (Catholic Creed).
@bridgefin2 ай бұрын
Fails to sell Sola Scriptura!
@darrellperez10292 ай бұрын
@@bridgefin Exactly. Because that is a false notion
@rexfordtugwelljr Жыл бұрын
Good point: by what authority can a Protestant say “You can’t do that”
@Davehatessocialists Жыл бұрын
By the only authority there is, the authority of the Word and the true Christ, not by ecclesiastical megalomania. "You nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down” (Mark 7:13). Revelation 22:18-19, “I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book”. Proverbs 30:5-6 warns that the person who adds to God’s words will be rebuked and proved a liar. "Your word, Lord, is eternal; it stands firm in the heavens” (Psalm 119:89). It is to the Scriptures that the church is commended in order to combat the error that was bound to come (Acts 20:32). Likewise, it was the written Word that was seen in the Old Testament as the source of truth upon which to base one’s life (Joshua 1:8; Deuteronomy 17:18-19; Psalm 1; Psalm 19:7-11; 119; etc.) While Jesus taught respect toward religious leaders (Matthew 23:3), an admonition which the apostles followed, we have the apostles’ example of breaking from the authority of their religious leaders when it was in opposition to what Jesus had commanded (Acts 4:19). Jesus equates the Scriptures with God’s Word (John 10:35). In contrast, when it comes to the religious traditions, He condemns some traditions because they contradict the written Word (Mark 7:1-13). Never does Jesus use religious tradition to support His actions or teachings. Before the writing of the New Testament, the Old Testament was the only inspired Scripture. However, there were literally hundreds of Jewish “traditions” recorded in the Talmud (a collection of commentary compiled by Jewish rabbis). Jesus and the apostles had both the Old Testament, and the Jewish tradition. Nowhere in Scripture does Jesus or any of the apostles appeal to the Jewish traditions. In contrast, Jesus and the apostles quote from or allude to the Old Testament hundreds of times. The Pharisees accused Jesus and the apostles of “breaking the traditions” (Matthew 15:2). Jesus responded with a rebuke: “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?” (Matthew 15:3). The manner in which Jesus and the apostles distinguished between the Scriptures and tradition is clear. Jesus specifically rebukes treating the “commandments of men” as doctrines (Matthew 15:9). In Acts 20:27-32, Paul acknowledges publicly that “wolves” and false teachers would arise from “among yourselves” (within the church). What did he commend them to? To “God and the word of His grace.” He does not commend them to the “church leaders” (they were the church leaders) nor to the traditions of the church nor to a particular overseeing elder. Rather, Paul pointed them to the Word of God. While it is clearly evident that Scripture argues for its own authority, Scripture nowhere argues for “authoritative tradition equal with Scripture.” In fact, the New Testament has more to say against traditions than it does in favor of tradition. Additionally, anyone who is happy to rewrite the moral law given to Moses in order to accommodate the socialistic occultism and political/economic doctrines of Satan, and who fails to see the contradictions with the Word, who instead argues for man over God will NEVER be convinced and will die in their sin. The same yesterday, today and forever, without compromise. This is the only way to truth and life.
@rexfordtugwelljr Жыл бұрын
@@Davehatessocialists thanks for your very verbose reply. Tell me, to what scriptures did the apostles refer when they abrogated circumcision for Christians at the Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15? Book, chapter and verse please 🙏 And also tell me, without an appeal to tradition, how you know the Letter to the Hebrews is the Word of God when we don’t even know its author. Thanks in advance
@generalyousif0 Жыл бұрын
@@rexfordtugwelljrbro the other guy said a whole bunch of nothing but anti-Catholics propaganda created by scared Protestants trying to justify their split
@simplydanny Жыл бұрын
@@Davehatessocialiststhe weird thing is when a Catholic hears a Protestant say “by the word of God” what we automatically conclude is you mean by your interpretation of the word of God. You’re not really moving the conversation forward because we already believe that Protestants already have a misunderstanding of scripture and infamously cherry pick verses. What you would need to prove in a very objective manner is how your interpretation is correct and has authority.
@Davehatessocialists Жыл бұрын
@simplydanny hahaha spoken like a true Catholic. I don't have to show anything to anyone. Scripture translates scripture, not some self appointed self anointed witch's covern. There is only one authority spiritual or otherwise and I am responsible to Him, and nobody else stands in between or takes responsibility for anything. Can u tell me why u would follow a socialist version of the ten commandments? By what authority does a petty little apostate church warp the word of God? Earthly authority?U need to take a long look in the mirror my brother and stop parroting the lies these wolves in sheep's clothing feed u. Faith in Jesus alone will save u, u don't need fusty old men telling u to jump through hoops. They are corrupting God's relationship with u. Jesus is the only way.
You might be right on historical facts brother. Everything your saying under our understanding of where early church of apostles and what books came to be in bible is facts. Good job on that. But take this in consideration and ask yourself??? Are you doing what the Jews (Pharisees) thought was right back in the day as Catholics. Following traditions and saying thats the way to God because they were "Gods people" and EVERYONE should follow their Rabbi and did not have Relationship with God and was in their hearts. Look where that led them to . We should trust always in God not man. So whether you want to follow Catholics teachings or a Protestant. Make sure your trust and faith is in him JESUS CHRIST. NOT Man. Because only God will lead you the right way. Remember the Trinity is not in scripture either and Catholics believe in it also. I know God speaks through his living word and guides me and I love him and thank him daily for saving me. If your Catholic beliefs give you that same presence of the Holy Spirit. Lets keep Loving God with all our hearts and our soul everything else he has a plan for. God bless. 🙏
@scanner_956 Жыл бұрын
So you are saying John 14:16 is only for the Apostles or does it apply to everyone?
@VoiceOfReason_ Жыл бұрын
It applies to the Apostles and their ministerial successors, who collectively hold the universal Magisterium, which is infallible.
@scanner_956 Жыл бұрын
@@VoiceOfReason_ So Jesus isn't the way, the truth and the life for everyone?
@VoiceOfReason_ Жыл бұрын
@@scanner_956 I’m sorry, verse 16 does apply to all. I misread your comment and thought it said verse 26.
@scanner_956 Жыл бұрын
@@VoiceOfReason_ So you why are you not being consistent with applying everything Jesus said to all believers and instead picking and choosing what applies to who?
@VoiceOfReason_ Жыл бұрын
@@scanner_956 in verse 12 Jesus begins to speak generally, which is why verse 16 applies to all. In verse 25 He begins to speak specifically to the 12. Verse 26 applies to them specifically.
@jasonprashant6624 Жыл бұрын
The only way you can defend the roman church is bowing to the lordship of the popes. Period
@BKT_04 Жыл бұрын
pErIoD 💅💅💅💅
@luxither7354 Жыл бұрын
What gives you the authority to interpret Scripture? The Holy Spirit? How do you know you have it, and aren't deceived? Instead we should humbly submit ourselves to those who first had the Scriptures, and see why they held as a consensus. We see, when this is done, that the Catholic Church, the See of Rome, was consistently held as Authoritative, from Irenaus's first mention in his third book on Heresies to Maximus the Confessors letters. We never see one deny the Bishop of Rome's authority, and those that speak on it, always asserted it. Was it then that the Church was in error for over 1500 years?
@grandsonofman11 ай бұрын
13:46 it's pretty easy ... follow the faith of Abraham. This is how we know the Muhammadans, the traditional Jews and Catholics do not accept or follow.
@declansceltic19810 ай бұрын
Are you infallible? No, so your opinion here can be dismissed.
@grandsonofman10 ай бұрын
@@declansceltic198 stop living in contradiction and come out of her
@declansceltic19810 ай бұрын
@@grandsonofman Nothing I believe contradicts anything else I believe.
@declansceltic19810 ай бұрын
@@grandsonofman You’re claiming my religion is incorrect. What is your religion? Is it correct?
@grandsonofman8 ай бұрын
@CatholicDefender-bp7my all I can say is, be certain your salvation isn't robbed from you. The deception comes from one who knew THE FATHER very intimately and 1 comma (,) could make one be turned away. Study. If the word was with GOD from the beginning and HE does not change......
@ALECKS287 Жыл бұрын
Is masterbation a sin?
@logicus.thomistica Жыл бұрын
Yes
@Thaddeuslovesmusic6 ай бұрын
I better the go to the Jews for the interpretation of the Old Testament 🤔
@Gladdig10 ай бұрын
What infallible authority gave the pre-Christian jews their canon then?
@bridgefin2 ай бұрын
They did not have one consistent canon.
@ChrisTian-tz3eq Жыл бұрын
Tradition is fine, as long it doesn't violate Sacred Scripture! Even Jesus Christ, Peter, and Paul, all said that "the scriptures" (The Law & The Prophets - aka The Old Testament/ the writings contained in the Hebrew Torah & Tanakh, and Greek Septuagint) trumps everything!... Jesus: Matt 5 : 17 - 19 17 ) Think not that I am come to destroy THE LAW, OR THE PROPHETS: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 ) For verily I say unto you, TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, One Jot Or One Tittle Shall IN NO WISE PASS From The Law, Till All Be Fulfilled. 19 ) Whosoever therefore Shall BREAK ONE OF THESE LEAST COMMANDMENTS, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall DO and TEACH THEM, the same shall be called great in the Kingdom Of Heaven. Peter: 2 Peter 3 : 15 - 17 15 ) And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 ) As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 17 ) Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the LAWLESS, fall from your own stedfastness. Paul: 2 Timothy 3 : 15 - 17 15 ) And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 ) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 ) That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
@VoiceOfReason_ Жыл бұрын
Sacred Tradition does not and cannot violate or contradict Sacred Scripture..because they both come from the Apostles. 2 Thessalonians 2:15. It’s interesting that you mentioned the Septuagint…because the Septuagint contains many writings which are not in the Protestant Old Testament. And of all the Bible passages you quoted, not a single one of them teach Sola Scriptura.
@ChrisTian-tz3eq Жыл бұрын
@@VoiceOfReason_ The Sacred Scripture comes from Moses and Hebrew Prophets... The Report of Isaiah 53/ The Gospel (Good News) Of Yeshua HaMashiach (Jesus Christ), comes from The Apostles. But as previously stated, "Tradition is fine, as long as it doesn't violate Sacred Scripture!" For Example: Hanukkah is a man-made "tradition" written within Scripture, that doesn't violate prior Scripture.. ( and is not obligatory ) Baptism also is an extra-biblical tradition of Judaism, that doesn't violate prior Scripture. ... But the extra-biblical "tradition" of "The Corban" in Judaism, potentially causes one to violate The Written Commandment to Honor Father and Mother, of Sacred Scripture... among many others. (See: Matthew 15 & Mark 7) Likewise: The extra-biblical "tradition" of incorporating the time and name of the pagan goddess Eostre ( Easter ), into the gospel of Jesus Christ, and making it obligatory, violates Sacred Scripture. (Deut 12 : 29 - 32 ... Lev. 23 : 4 ... 1 Cor. 5 : 7 - 8) The extra-biblical tradition of observing the "1st day of the week" for Holy Sabbath-rest, and making it obligatory, violates Sacred Scripture too. (Genesis 2 : 1 - 3.. Exod. 20 : 8 - 11 .. Matt 24 : 20 ... Acts 13 : 42 - 44 .. Hebrews 4 : 4 - 11 ) And The extra-biblical "tradition" of bowing down to, and burning incense to graven images, also violates Sacred Scripture, as well as, bringing in any pagan idols and/or renaming them after names of christian saints. (Exod 20 : 4 - 6.. Deut 12 : 1 - 4 .. 2 Kings 18 : 4 .. Acts 15 : 20) All 3 of these examples pass the "False Prophet Test" of: Deuteronomy 13 : 1 - 5 & Isaiah 8 : 20 ... just to name a few.
@VoiceOfReason_ Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisTian-tz3eq Your first example is wrong. Easter is nearly the English word used for the celebration of the New Passover, the Passion, Death & Resurrection of Christ, which is in Scripture. Your second example is also wrong. The Christian Church did not desígnate Sunday as the day of rest. It designated Sunday as the day for all Christians to come together and worship, which is in Scripture. Your third example is a complete miss characterization and misrepresentation of the ancient practice of using images in the Liturgy.
@ChrisTian-tz3eq11 ай бұрын
@DieBibelistGottesWort .. i don't believe that.. What proof is it that u think u have?...
@markmeyer4532Ай бұрын
To say Sola Scriptura fails is to imply God fails. Sola Scriptura is placing God as the highest authority; that Scripture, His Holy Word is the sole rule of authority; but for Sola Scriptura to fail is to say Gods Word fails; that it is not the highest and sole rule of authority. Catholics really have nothing but resentment and disobedience for God. They do not love Him. They do not follow His commands. They do not worship Him. This is why Catholics hate Protestants; because we honor, worship and live by the command of God, and just as Catholics hate us, they hate Christ too.
@Nil-Hal_Kiggers16 күн бұрын
No, it's placing human falliabilty and understanding above God, who used the Holy Spirit to guide the early church to compile the Bible. If God says "this is how scripture is and what it means", and protestants say "well, I think that's wrong. It means this . . ." then you are simply incorrect, and in defiance of God.
@roxxiefoxx288410 ай бұрын
How can sola scriptura be legit ... what was it before the scriptures were found, translated & made into a book? Also sounds like something you'd HAVE to say if the church & traditions don't agree with you. Ask why just sola scriptura.
@cruzcortes9998 ай бұрын
Unfortunately you walked in circles and did not get anywhere. Question for you, if the word inspired by the Holy Spirit is not enough for you to follow the gospel of Christ, what makes you think an institution of men can do better than scriptures itself? The beauty of the Bible is that it was written by many people at different times and yet it all comes together like it was written by one and the same. Scriptures do not need another book to be understood. The Bible can explain itself if you take the time to study it, that is. There is only one gospel and if what a Christian or any other institution teaches is not according to the sola scriptura then it's no longer the gospel of Jesus. None of the apostle taught anything outside the gospel or that comform to the word of God. The church is not the authority outside the Bible, we are here to preach what's in the scriptures not to supercede the scripture itself . Like you said that is not in the scriptures. And we don't need a verse in the Bible that speak about sola scriptura to be a doctone, it is clearly inferred, when Jesus said many times in many ways, obey my commands , you are my disciples if you do what I say. Trinity is not in the Bible the same way sola scriptura is not, but you believe in the Trinity, don't you? Because is also inferred. Both are clearly visible within the scriptures. Sorry but there is only one God ,one Jesus, one way to heaven. We do not need any authority outside the Bible to tell us different. Preach the gospel is our only mission and make disciples that follow the same teachings of Jesus our Lord and Savior, not to "translate" the scriptures as we see fit. Faith do not depend of the sola scriptura either depends on how closely we follow the teachings of Christ and salvation is in Christ alone.
@emoore14394 ай бұрын
Sola Scriptura has caused nothing but division for the past 500 years