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"The lego movie walked so that spiderverse could fly." So poetic, wisest words i've ever heard.

I really thank Spiderverse not just for existing, but for being inspiring Dreamworks to do the same. Puss in boots last wish is an amazing movie not just by the story, but because of the animation style that takes after spiderverse

I love how Hobie was animated differently for multiple parts of his character just because he’s a rebel, but it kinda also ties back into his line of “I don’t believe in consistency.” Edit: Holy cow, 2k ppl agree with me. That is very coolio :)

3D animation studios: Noooo, you can’t just break the rules of 3D animation, it won’t look as good or as smooth. Sony animators: Nah, imma do my own thing.

It's so cool that they weren't breaking the rules just to break them. It was intentional. Like Miles being animated at 12fps vs 24fps like the other spidermen symbolizing he hasn't fully become Spiderman yet. And of course with Hobie being on 3/4 (sometimes) because he's a non conformist. Like all of that isn't just breaking rules for fun but adding another layer of the character beyond just the image of the character. It's 4D at this point

honestly obsessed with your decision to put the fact that you worked on the bad guys in the middle of the video, a lot of art youtubers tend to frontload their videos with their industry experience if they have it. also i'd love to see a video talking about the lego movie! definitely underrated when it comes to 3d animated films breaking the typical style conventions, i was convinced it was mostly stop motion until i actually met a guy who worked on it haha

also i love how spot still has the skeleton on him, the sticks and stones, lines and circles, foundation of art

I think it´s cool, that the sketches of Miguel are shown pretty often, like the circles and lines in his face. As an artist, this detail always makes me smile

One thing that truly shows the masterful nature of the work on Spider-Verse is that, despite all the "messy" elements - the smear frames, the choppier animation, the way Hobie is animated in that eye-searing and distracting way, etc. - Spider-Verse is imminently followable. I can tell what's going on and follow the action at all times. Compare to the first Transformers movie, where these grey CGI machines were taken into closeup on shakeycam to the point that it's impossible to tell WHAT is going on. It must have been an enormous amount of work to get something with this much "busy-ness" on screen, this much stylization and this many things that normally are cheats to make up for a lack of smoothness but are instead done deliberately here in order to make this movie as easy to watch and tell what is going on as it is.

Makes me think about how art used to be to make something almost photoreal and then we had surrealism that broke those conventions … great video guy

I love how Hobie was animated. I didn't think much of it during the movie when I watched it for the first time, but he was done perfectly. Literally every part of his character bleeds into the way he's animated, as he literally never conforms to an animation style, as he never looks the same in two frames thanks to the effects around him, all his moving parts like his limbs or jacket move at different framerates, and how he looks like he just doesn't fit in, like they cut him out of a punk art piece and just glued him into the movie. It makes his "I don't believe in consistency" line work on multiple levels

I absolutely love how Hobie gets his own animation rules. My favorite is definitely the whole “any of these rules are breakable at any Tim because he ‘doesn’t believe in consistency’,” which honestly so cool. I also like how when Hobie wrote the letter to Gwen that was attached to the watch he made, his handwriting shifted from uppercase to lowercase consistently for the same reason.

A little more inside (I worked on comp on spiderverse) the example smear frame you used that was lines on his feet were all hand drawn and added in later. There are also major distorted frames for smears as well. (see miles slamming the door when he leaves Ms Webers office). Also, lighting was basically non-existent. Miles and Gwen had basic lighting, but it was all done in layers in comp. It was basically a giant moving coloring book.

Pleeeeease talk about the bad guys work flow. I’d love to hear about the rules you guys set for yourselves and how the first Spiderverse movie changed the conversation of developing the movie

4:22. Oh man, as a software engineer, I can totally relate. Sometimes we have multiple meetings just to decide whether or not we should change the colour of a button from blue to red.

I can never be more thankful to Spiderverse for pushing the boundaries on what animation could and should be.

Across the spiderverse was so amazing, that it finally made me put pen on paper and start drawing again! I hadn’t seen the first one so I was just mesmerized the entire time!

Spiderverse didn't break the rules, they made them far better.

Going for photo-realism in the medium of animation was always something that felt silly to me, like people were missing the point. I am so glad for this new modern age of creativity and innovation, and I can't wait for the rules to be broken over and over again so that they can be reinvented and interpreted by so many people so many times that the branching paths of all of it make a universe of animation that we can look at and be amazed by for generations to come.

when i started watching the first part where miles taps on his neck with pen i was like "hold up.. this is something new" the animations are amazing

I really hope more studios start braking the rules like this

I don't watch superhero movies, but my friend pushed me into watching the 2 spiderverse movies and I'm so glad I listened to him. As an artist, I'm so grateful to exist in a time where such art exists.

the way they used colors to tell Gwen's story was so amazing

The symbolism in Spiderverse’s animation is amazing

across the spiderverse is honestly one for my fav movies of all time and this further solidifies it

I would LOVE a in depth bad guys video or anything else you've worked on. there is honestly not a lot of HIGH quality videos HIGHLY IN DEPTH about animation

0:02 I love that this notion applies on anything in general. e.g. Good chef follows the recipe books, great chef understands when NOT to follow the recipes, altering stuff as simply as stirring the pan few minute longer or using alternative spices might end you up with better food than what cook book dictates.

Honestly number three is the most important. We can make anything look like real life but then why not just make it live action. If we're going to make an animated movie it should utilise the fulll capability of animation and im glad to see that studios finally are...

Great video! I'd love to hear about your work on The Bad Guys! Also, do you know anything about the production behind Puss In Boots? I love that movie's stylized animated as well :D

Lower frame rate and smearing are the reasons why Dragon Ball Fighter Z (and other games by the same developers) looks so good

I absolutely love the style of the new Spider-Man movie(s). It’s so unique

2:29 zesty ahh punch

A little birdie once told me “imperfections in the digital world is the perfection in the real life world”

I personally love the style and liveliness of this new wave of 3d animation. What I hope to see in the future is more techniques commonly used in anime utilized by western media. Imagine the next superhero movie animated like it was done by Trigger lmao.

This is a really cool analysis! I'd love to hear more about your time in the industry :D

i love all the HowToTrainYourDragon included

Your video popped up on recommendations, binge watching all of them

I just got a 3D Blu-Ray of Spiderman: Across the Spider-Verse. I actually had to order it from Asia, it's an Italian 3D Blu-Ray release. If any movie was meant to be seen in 3D it is this one! I can't imagine seeing it any other way, it's breathtaking! This movie was literally designed for 3D and I know it wasn't even in the theatres here in the US in 3D as far as I know! Anyways, love your channel.

Skipping the inbetweens on the punch is something straight out of game development. We call it juice. As a game dev that makes me so happy to see.

I loved seeing the noticeable sketch lines on the Spot and the subtle ones for Miguel

So you're telling me Hobie Brown's frame rate is a math rock song?

this explanation made me appreciate the movie’s visual style even more. And i would totally watch a video hearing about your time working on Bad Guys!

I noticed while watching the movie that Spot's sketch lines were visible from time to time, and i loved every moment of that

my family laughs at me whenever i gush about the spiderverse movies and rarely take me seriously when i say it's a cinematic masterpiece, but i know i'm right. it's pure perfection and it's inspired me so much as an artist.

the distortion made the second one possible😆

I would love to see a video about your time working on the bad guys and getting to learn about the style of the film

Telling you to make a video about The Lego Movie.

not a clickbait, a really interesting video and you explained it very well and simple that I could understand you're cool man

Imagine a movie centered around motorsports in this animation style.

I think we need to say thank you to Alberto Mielgo for this changes in art styles of 3d and 2d animation

I think its interesting that something similar started a while ago in video games, though sadly with less adoption from the industry at large. Arc System Works made Guilty Gear Xrd (2014) and later Dragon Ball FighterZ (2018) using very similar principles of skipping in-between frames and forcing imperfections into the art and animation, specifically to evoke the feeling of traditional 2d anime. Dan from New Frame Plus has an excellent video on the topic, if you'd like to learn more.

You should do one on Lord and Miller so I can here your thoughts on the Lego movie/Cloudy and how it affected Spider-Verse!

Anything you talk about if it’s formatted like this, I will definitely listen lol

Not bad. This video was short and straight to the point.

THIS IS SO COOL! Instant subscribe, I'm about to binge everything you've ever uploaded!

No wonder Spider Punk took 3 years to animate. Honestly, I'm glad the Spider-Verse films have evolved the animation industry. Realism was fun for a while, but got boring. Bring back stylization baby! Hopefully video games take a similar approach soon on their big titles. I know indie games can be stylized already.

3:07 Now the top text is something I didn't think I needed

I now understand why this took 5 years to make.

im new to your channel, ive seen some of your videos, and i think you have hade a good job! keep the good work up

You should talk about the Peanuts movie! There are a few similar points, and I think it's also really cool!

breaking the rules of 3d animation was a canon event -spiderman 2099

I feel Across the Spideverse does so much more than just break two or three rules, it has so many drastically different settings and creative shots and unique character design elements beyond Hobie that it's hard to even credit two or three details for making the game look as beautiful as it is.

4:07 in the scene where Spot gets stuck inside himself with all the black holes you can see the guide lines on his shoulders and how the body is drawn on spot while he’s there i thought it was pretty cool honestly

for the in between frames bit, I once screen recorded that one scene where miles hugs his dad as spiderman after his fight with kingpin and there are like.. 3 frames? it made it so much funnier and cuter because it goes SO FAST with only one in between frame. they went all out on these movies istg

Very cool video dude! Enjoyed it

Really enjoyed your video man, great job! Also, I'd love to hear more about the lego movie and your time in the industry.

For that second rule, the only example I can think of of another bit of media that uses this technique of smear and slowed down frames in Red vs Blue fight scenes in like season 7-10

This film (and _Into the Spider-Verse)_ just shows how powerful of a medium animation is. I'm absolutely adoring this new era of animation where they look back at the fundamentals of 2D animation and apply them to 3D; seeing squash & strech and smear frames in 3D animated films is pure joy. I truly hope this is a step in the right direction to change that Jurassic western mentality that "animations are for kids".

such a well made video! learnt so many new things from this.

The animators: “Nah, imma do my own thing”

Don't ever stop okay this is literally the best channel i came across in a year 😃 please make videoes about animation industry and how it works

Hey man, i just met you trought youtube and well, i'm thinking about being an animator in the future, since i have some experiwnce animating (even tough all i do is 2d stickfigures fighting each other). Could tou make like, a video about your path to becoming a professional animator? Also, i loved this video format, and this video itself, i may keep watchibg more of you videos in the future

Well, this blew my mind and now you earned a sub

Found this in my recommended and then you just drop that you worked on The Bad Guys lol. A video talking about your experience with it and a video talking about The Lego Movie both sound like really great ideas!

WE NEED THAT LEGO MOVIE VIDEO RIGHT NOWWWWWWWW

Animation is a medium that has so much potential and tell completely unique stories that are just not possible with live action even with huge CGI budgets. Cyberpunk Edgerunners was another recent show that really pushed audio/video experience. Anime content in general has done different styles and you can really find something that appeals to you. Spiderverse 2 was really unique for superhero / hollywood movie. It has amazing soundtracks and VA work. The way the artists utilized colour and shapes to differentiate moods in scenes was something really wondering to experience on the big screen.

This was realy informative and straight to the point, thats a sub from me!

grave of the fireflies made me feel emotions I didn't know I could feel

Beautiful video bro

I need more videos like this

Yeah! I'd love a video talking about your time working on The Bad Guys.

Please make that video about working on The Bad Guys. It’s one of my favorite animated movies ever, and I’d love to see more about how it was made.

Amazing video!

Overlapping and shifted colours in Across the Spider-verse definitely reminded me of Jackie Chan Adventures, which very often had outlines not matching the shading.

It's not a "rule" as it is more of a known practice for 3d animation to animate on 1s. That all depends on what style you're going for

Only 34 thousand dude your videos are so cool it deserves more subscribers

Also, you can see that spot still has his sketch lines. Like circles to draw a character

wait but actually please make a video about The Bad Guys and the Lego Movie and your time at DreamWorks, I think that would be absolutely fascinating and I'm super interested to hear about all that!! Usually we only see discussion about PIxar/Disney, but I haven't really heard anyone talk in depth about some of the animating and animation work in DreamWorks and it seems like you have a lot of experience! I subbed, and can't wait to see more of your videos, they're super neat :D

They got good teachers: *looks at arc system works*

This was great, and I’d love to hear about your time on The Bad Guys!

YES PLEASE MAKE MORE ANIMATION REVIEWS RAGHHHH TRHIS IS SO INTERESTING!!!

my family and i love bad guys, a video talking about it would be super interesting!!! and lego movie is iconic forever im never tired of hearing about lego animations, stop motion or 3d graphics

Fantastic breakdown. I know nothing about 3d animation, but felt like an expert for 5 mins.

Great video, and I agree, these are crucial for the industry. I'd love to hear anything you can say about working on The Bad Guys. Insider data is fascinating to me. I work in film, and have worked in games, so it's great to get into the details of how other people solved problems I might run into.

You worked on the bad guys movie?! That’s awsome

Id love to see you talk more about your time at the Bad Guys and also Lego Movie!!

This was really cool. I'm interested in how far this trend to photorealism goes back. I know a little about the Road to Point REYES in 1983 and that Pixar has been a big voice in constructing computer models to mimic live action, but I'm not really sure if they're originator of that impulse (and then others jumped on their success) or if Disney picked them up because photorealism was already popular and Pixar's software expertise made the company company attractive to the animation industry (I remember reading that during the early 80s Pixar was also marketing its software to medical and mapping companies, and that animation was more an emergent focus than the original goal).

Hobie a real one fr I mean he helped miles escape that trap thing and even quit so he didn’t have to chase him

So the skipping of the inbetweens is like the arrows in princess mononoke? They weren’t drawn flying just hitting