We should care less about intentions and more about results

It’s my goal to break into the animation industry, idc about the politics around it. I don’t care about politics. To Animators & Animations studios who’s looking for a student willing to learn and work, let me know 🤙🏾

Thank you for making this video!!

Indi animation for the win

They could have made something similar but longer kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nahpY9CWlcfVg40.html this. (Disney's Once Upon a Studio | Full Short Film) They could have done something like Disney cartoon universe. Like House of Mouse but bigger. Where they can showcase the animation and the legacy they have with actually showing the characters they have. I was crying and full of emotions when I saw the Disney's Once Upon a Studio | Full Short Film. It was touching. Or they could have just do the short film and not a last minute idea movie.

Tasty ingredients together in a pot doesnt form a great soup neccissarily. Too many of these ideas are too specific to be appreciated by the general public. And in aspects are uninspired, look generic and janky. Yes, I'd love chewing grass too if I was a cow. But no, I'm not an animator. The target audience was actually themselves. Not us.

art will never have the respect it deserves in capitalism, no company will care about doing a good job precisely because the objective of any company is just one: profit capitalism needs to end

If they had gone for a real classic animation, i would have paid a ticket with hype. I feel exactly the same with the new Mufasa movie, not paying for that. The first time i watched the trailer of wish i thought it was a terrible mistake try to mimic hand drown animation in this way.

Wrong

everyday there is a new reason to drop art and give up life

And this is why I love the Lego Movie. Not only was the story cool, it LOOKED AWESOME

Is not it too soon for Ai to take over human jobs🙂🙂

I feel your pain. I love animation - always have. I collected hundreds of animated films on dvd when my kids were young and we spent hours watching them over and over again. My daughter is a fantastic artist who draws constantly. She is on an animation course atm, and she loves it. BUT... I know it is all for nothing, and so is your angst, my friend. You can talk about unionisation and corporate greed all you like, but the big picture is that the current ability of ai is already mind blowing, and it will only get much, much better. Soon Hollywood will be a footnote in US history, much like the vast neolithic 'flint factories' discovered by archaeologists (eg, the Langdale Axe Factory in the EnglishLake District from around 4,000BC). To future generations, the concept of studio-made movies will be as anachronistic as the idea of rolling pyramid building blocks on logs is today. If people still watch movies in the future (and that is a big 'if'), it will be a case of, 'Hey, are you free this weekend? I've made a really cool movie I think you'll enjoy'. By 'made', we will mean, 'I held a lobg conversation with the ai hive-mind that surrounds our life these days, and by following my plot and character suggestions, we came up with a movie'. That is the future of cinema, if at all. I'm a retired radio presenter, and how my industry has been decimated by mere networking and voice-tracking technology is heartbreaking to me. But, with a sigh, I get it and we must move on. My heart breaks for my daughter who will never work in animation or even illustration (I've messed around with Dalle3, and already it is phenomenal). I hope she doesn't give up drawing for her own enjoyment - it brings her peace and contentment, but I know she will make no money from her talents. With regards to your calls for strike action, you should look up the elevator strikes of the early 20th century. Each time you use an automated elevator, you are crossing a picket line. Otis invented it to permanently break the elevator strikes - and they won. Finally, thank you to all the animators and storytellers who have given me and my children so much enjoyment over the years. However, I fear the fun is over. A strange new world of individual, augmented creativity awaits.

Magnifico is totally right therefor he's the good guy.

This goes hard

The pictures transport the story. But if the animation is good and the story is not, why spending money on a movie that does not entertain but looks good. If the story would be interesting with some twists and maybe tragic, and the animation supports this feeling then ot does not matter if the animation reminds on TV animations. But I think Disney ahould have gone a step further with their animation of wish. They should have ahow us something very new woth this style. Like for example the 3D animated sequence of the dance scene in Beauty and the beast. Something on top of the flat watercolor look that would leave the audience astonished.

I want to get into animation or just art im general. Ive just started and I can help but constantly feel like im wasting my time and i dont even have plans to make money off it.

10:00 Yeah, I can 10000 percent surely say that whatever been said in this part is absolutely true in case of INDIA and JAPAN (my friends worked there and left - squeeze the life out of them, many switched the Career paths with no returning Back, one way ticket to get out of it and those who were in 40-45 age categories got help in getting good career positions because of old connection they made in their 20's or 30's, guys with 5-7 year experience welllllll - may luck be with you for future )

Stopped this video to watch “Nimona.” It is EXCELLENT! 👍👍UP!

We artists will figure this out. No more executives. We make our own movies, and keep 100 percent of the profit.

Thank you sir for the eye opening revelation about the animation, the movie industry and the essential role of unionizing.

#StayTooned

Glad to see you mention the truth about Indian animation Industry.

i dont think you understand what ai destroying jobs mean, they wont replace experts with amateurs using ai, they will have one expert using ai instead of ten experst not using it

Could you be more annoying?

Who gives a fuck :D Fuck capitalism anyway. Fuck the industry.

Most people aren’t criticising the animation itself, but the style, that doesn’t look good. Beside the problem you mentioned with the motion blur etc, it also lacks colour, it lacks depth and compared to movies like tangled and frozen it lacks details in the background. That some people have to explain some things and choices in the movie to most other people is also a problem. For example the symbol of the rose, I didn’t even notice that this should be a rose, nor, that it’s a repeating element, like the much more obvious sun from corona (for example). I wouldn’t say it’s a bad movie, but tangled, frozen or Encanto were way, way, way better, and (except for tangled), they weren’t some jubilee movies. So it doesn’t matter how good and high quality the animation and the techniques are, if it still looks bad for the eye…

Disney said they couldn't do 2D animation anymore, but just before they released Wish, they released Once Upon A Studio... Which was 2D animated...

The industry might die, but not the art.

Stylistically, they pulled their punches and it shows in the rest of your critiques. I don’t consider Wish nearly the love letter to animation/visual art that I would consider something like Spiderverse or Mutant Mayhem. They should have committed harder to the watercolor style. Being timid about it made it look like a cheap filter washing over everything in flat lighting like you mentioned. Plenty of watercolor art evokes depth and contrast and their own Wish concept art book conveyed that better than the movie. Even Spiderverse was already successful in creating a cinematic watercolor look in Gwen’s universe. Regarding motion blur getting turned off to preserve the Snow White cel-painted style, they could’ve taken a Spiderverse print comic chromatic aberration approach and had watercolor bleed outside of lineart like it does in real life watercolor art in order to convey depth of focus or motion blur. It looked like the concept art and movie’s BGs did this a little but it’s a wasted opportunity in the character animation. To pay more homage to the rest of their century of animation, they could’ve incorporated other styles like their Xerox era. It could’ve provided a contrast with the crisp celluloid style and used meaningfully in the same way Spiderverse used framerates. What the artists created isn’t BAD. They made some great choices like you mentioned with the Star and the effects. It just isn’t as GOOD as it could be. It looks like they’re held back and I don’t understand why. Disney has so much power to be much more experimental. You already mentioned Paperman and Feast as stylistic predecessors, proving Disney can be daring in 3D, but Wish visually falls so flat in comparison I wouldn’t even consider them related.

If you want to do this art and other nonsense dont earn with it Controlled by the shareholders so who else they invest the money so animators should control it's like a painter saying I will do what I want but you have to pay me Its a buisness and animators times are up Stop the hyp__ocrisy you get to doodle and earn now when there is a better way you are trying to boycott

I am genuinely scared that he will stubbornly continue making movies, and work himself to the grave. The man has created beauty, now he needs to rest and enjoy his creation. I’m terrified of what’ll happen once he’s gone to studio ghibli. Hopefully doesn’t go down the drain

Looking forward to watching lots of non-woke independant productions in the not-so-distant future.

There is only one rule. Does it look good? The answer has to be yes.

Instead of an incredible, fun shapeshifting starboy that paired so well with asha's originally more withdrawn, play it safe personality and would've given us one of the best disney couples of all time and would've vastly improved the story, we got the marketable plushie. Good thing the star is named after his shape because otherwise I probably wouldn't remember his name

So... would Wish look better if watched in 12 fps ? xD

2:46 This kind of technic was also used for Overwatch in-game character's animations ! The elongated shapes and silly deformed bodies to better convey movement, even in 60 fps style.

IATSE was out of work during the entire WGA strike so they have no safety net or the stomach for another strike. We are screwed.

Pls talk about the problems in bad guys

Let's get ready to go Indies!

Just dont forget that the people are the industry, they cant have film and cinema if the people trained in it refuse to cooperate, make your dream films and animations and the rest will follow, there is strength in numbers and leaving what exploits and ruins everything to them, let them who want AI to keep it but also work hard on your own passions and keep the culture growing.

If these CEO's start using AI to cut costs, the movies will be very boring and generic, because that's all AI is, generic and avarage. It can't make something new. Indie animation will always look better and have more passion and emotion, because they have artists who care. I think people will get fed up with the same stuff from Hollywood all the time and watch indie animation. These CEO's are digging their own grave by firing all talented artists

Howl’s Moving Castle wasn’t really mentioned as an example of Studio Ghibli using computer animation (to move all the different components of the castle). So they do use it and the automation it offers, but never as a replacement for the difficult creative decision of hand-making everything.

Why not say you gonna spoil?

Tbh AI has brought the best out of all these Lazy artists, writers and screenwriters. Everyone got so confident and lazy with their work because no challenge was out there to benchmark a goal. It’s about time everyone is trying harder. They should have a long time ago. Many are salty about quality, but step it up then.

Really good analysis here! I'm a TV animator myself and was wondering why it looked so.... "TV-ish". I liked your explanation of wants VS needs a lot, i think an even more interesting comparison would be Hunchback Of Notre Dame, where Quasimodo wants the girl, doesn't get her, but ends up getting what he needs.... and what he REALLY wants.... acceptance. Unfortunately, i think executives were interfering too much with Wish and it seems to be a problem throughout current Disney media, hopefully they can course correct, I think Jennifer Lee got very lucky with Frozen's success, rode the coattails of that success a little bit and should make way for new leadership at Disney Animation. I hope they can go back to being the industry leader again, it's really cool that we have all these new entrants to the top level of animation, but there's just something about Disney where I love seeing it as the place we all want to be, and having the top animation talent in the world haha.

I’m sympathetic; but, I sense the Force. The Force is telling me that there’s opportunities…the universe is inviting “you” to dance. “You” need to dance with the universe.

Animation is art, art shouldn’t be perfect.

another risk this movie took was to have the villain be the main character and actually win over the good guys

as a beginner in the field of animation i have been learning for almost a year right now and i have to telll you that when you watch a movie as an animator it's completely different as you actually appreciate the whole movie more than anyone else does because you get to see things that you know are really difficult to do and so hard to achieve in a visual creative way, you know that because you tried and you learned and you made things and know whow things are, you get to appreciate the effort and be amazed by the innovation of finding new ways to make things and animate them, imagine watching something now and knowing that it was not sketched, drawn, composited, edited, by a human being, to put it short i won't appreciate them, or at least not as much as i appreciated humanly animated movies, some shots made me cry ngl