This isn't 5 hours long. literally unwatchable.

I think it's really interesting that this kind of converging storytelling really speaks to Jay because it's very similar to the kind of storytelling he uses in his long essays where he will bring out this esoteric tangent that you can easily put out of your mind but that's slowly turns back into the main point of the video and you realize that that random tangent had been relevant all along and I think that's super neat and interesting.

From now on, I’m gonna say to my enemies “You cross one more line and you’ll be going the same way as Jeffreys”

Anyone else floored that this was less than an hour long? I'm proud of you Jay.

This isn't the same, but remember in Undertale right by the very end, you come across an exact replica of Toriel's home? I imagine it was a similar feeling.

I really, genuinely want to hear your take on the daleks in lego batman

FYI, the destroyed base is accessible from the very start of the game. Whatever you wanna make of that. It was the first location I discovered on my playthrough, after also having played the beta version previously. I had an immediate side by side showcase of the two intro settings. Didn't seem particularly exciting that way. More of an "Oh, alright." moment.

Now that i put on your video i suddenly realized that if i dont get up and eat nuggies, ill die.

Game: is officially released Also game: has a bug that makes you unable to climb a set of stairs that leads to the end of the game

ok but you use your Sea Glider with the map on so your opinion clearly doesn't matter and all points are invalid, sorry.

I'd recommend playing Outer Wilds since it does space exploration without artificial barriers perfectly. Best game I've ever played!

My only problem with Subnautica below zero was the land areas. I was so hyped for the snow tunneler... And epicly running from it on my snowfox. And I got a buggy snowfox and a tunneler that has aimbot and always hits you and LAUNCHES YOU OFF YOUR FUCKING SNOWFOX.

“Artificial barrier of blockage” *Channels Steve Rogers* “I understood that reference”

It's weird, after that Doctor Who video, I always hope Jay's videos will be multiple hours. If you see this Jay, I'd watch a five hour video from you once or twice a year and be satisfied. Just my own take.

I loved Below Zero from start to finish. A lot of people didn't like the extra dialogue and cutscenes but I thought they were great.

5:05 this reference needs more recognition. It solidifies Jay Exci as member of the intelectual gaming community founded by Captain-Master, God-Emperor- Pirate Tonald Loke.

The game still doesn't have autosave. Love it, I bought it when EA first dropped, but I want autosave. I do wish they continued with the old storyline though

Thanks for publicising my impotence, that’s the kind of 10/10 customer service I come to your videos for (not that I can come anymore).

The first gaming video in a year, holy smokes this video is epic 👊

the thing that actually surprised me the most was changing Robin from being British to being American. Nothing against the voice actor but it just didn't sound as right.

"Imagine you're me for a second." "Calm down. I know."

This same sort of thing happened with RE7. They said the demo was just a first person test that had absolutely nothing to do with the game, but then after wandering the woods you find yourself in the very same house, eventually finding the video tape of the events of the demo

This kinda reminds me of the little mini games for minecraft on console. They changed the waiting lobby at one point, but if you flicked the lever hidden in the fountain it would open up and underneath was a dilapidated version of the original lobby.

I had this exact experience - almost. I was someone that bought the first Subnautica VERY early in it's Early Access, and I played throughout it's entire development. So unfortunately I never really got the experience of that story the way it was intended, as I saw the entire thing be built and evolve. However that gave a different experience of feeling like I'd spent years on this planet with no idea what the hell was going on, until the story was built around me as time passed. There was something completely different and magical about that experience, finishing Subnautica felt like the end of an era, as I'd legitimately spend years on this planet, not knowing what was going on until the home stretch. It also meant that I found the end of the game to be actually quite easy, as I already had a significant set of materials and bases built up. I was able to complete the final steps and leave the planet with relative ease due to my existing supplies. However, this actually made me reconsider how I wanted to experience Below Zero. I purchased it day one of release to Early Access, played the intro you mentioned and then uninstalled the game. I decided I wanted to wait until the final release so I could entirely experience this game in one go. I booked holidays off work on release day and was able to complete the whole thing in just a few sittings. I had almost no memory of the original opening, just the vaguest memory of starting on the planet, so the ending arrival I didn't have that same "oh shit" experience. However I feel like my experience of the second was directly influenced by my experience and knowledge of the first, and I find that so interesting. My experience of Below Zero will be entirely different to someone that first discovered the Subnautica series on BZ's release. It will also be different to someone that discovered it on the first ones official release. This is the same game with the same plot, but how you connect to it is entirely different depending on things that happened in your own life. That's why I think gaming is so special, and Subnautica really exemplifies that in so many ways.

You talking about your experience with seeing the old base was like mine when I loaded up Elder Scrolls Online for the first time recently, hopped into Vvardenfell, and saw Vivec city, a place I had visited so many times in the original Morrowind, still being under construction. It was so interesting to me, so see that this city that looked so impervious and invincible, once didn't even exist and had to be built by mere men (or mer/elves ig). It was pure nostalgia for a "brand new" thing.

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Jay you should 110% play outer wilds if you haven't already. It has a similar vibe to subnautica in that the driving force is exploration but what's awesome about it is that the only thing limiting your progress is knowledge. No upgrades, no abilities. You just learn new information as you go along and use that knowledge to piece together the mystery of the game and eventually reach the ending. Seriously it's a masterpiecr

I think using the Early Access base as the design for Outpost Zero(?) was absolutely intentional. I never saw anything of BZ before launch, so to me it was just an abandoned research site with later story relevance. To ppl who played/saw early access tho, it a nice little Easter egg and clue.

+10 points for successfully integrating, "artificial barrier of blockage," into the script.

Portal 2 had a similar effect on me. Seeing the same facility from the first game but run-down and overgrown still feels so surreal to me to this day.

Personally, I put down disagreements. Although I really loved the original subnautica, I didn't much love Sub Zero. Unlike the original, I didn't die once and I never really felt unsafe. Alan wasn't that interesting and his quests often took a long time to load for me. The Sea Truck felt very clunky and a significant downgrade from the seamoth and Cyclops. Maybe it's just because I didn't play the early access release though, so I didn't have all the same reactions. Plus I found site ø early in the game. I think you would have had a kinda different experience if you hadn't played the game on early access. Regardless, I'm glad you loved it Jay.

Definitely not as good as the original, but the ending slapped and it was still a blast. I also did myself a HUGE favor only playing the full release.

Hearing Jay directly compliment something without him immediately dropkicking it with something to the effect of "and here's how they fucked it all up" is a very strange sensation

I played subnautica and.. honestly that's it? I thought sub zero would add more stuff, but everything maybe save for the big flowers was already in subnautica. All the building modules, the alien bases, the UI, the plants, the vehicles.. that should be an addon/dlc not it's own game

My take, it's a great game and it's worth your money, but the magic from the first game just isn't there

The funny thing is that i was turned off of the game because of that opening I always preferred the silent protagonist

As a famous person once said “I’m the conductor of the poop train!”- Sylvester Stallone probably

The Delta lab was the first non base location I’ve ever found in the game lol, sounds like a fun experience though

I get so excited whenever I see a new upload from your main channel, it always tends to be something you’re really passionate about

I just beat the game a couple weeks ago, I liked the first more but it was still good. The second one just lacks the same “oh boy what’s that over there” effect. For example the crashed ship and all it’s debris adds something to look for. The new game was just a open ocean that honestly felt very small. The other issue, arguably the most detrimental being the story gives u no direction. For most of the game it was just me wandering around and then finally looking up where I should be going.

Reminds me of my own experience watching The Sixth Sense for the first time after having the ending accidentally spoiled by my sister. I knew that he was dead, but I didn't know that he didn't know he was dead. So, I'm watching the whole time thinking he knew he was a ghost and my surprise twist came halfway through when I realized he didn't know.

This is actually quite brilliant. I can see how wild of an experience is and I've had some similar, where I wish everyone could understand what it's like or experience it for themselves, yet it's unexplainable.

And yet…this same kind of meta storytelling, where you try to plant references to future instalments long before anyone knows that those instalments are being planned, can backfire when too much thought is put into laying groundwork for the future, and not enough into making the current work (game, book, movie, etc) compelling on its own. I just saw a video on a defunct game franchise (can’t remember which one) that did exactly that. They made a game that was supposed to be just the first piece in a huge puzzle that was to include comics, movies, and books, and no one cared because the game wasn’t interesting. Edit: The game was “Advent Rising”.

I also did not realize Outpost Zero was the old base and it made "Below Zero" so much more awesome for me as the title. Everything built up to that one deep, dark, scary facility where you build Al-An, which happens to lie [more or less] below Outpost Zero; below zero. Coming up from the body fabrication facility to Outpost Zero, having the relief and surprise of seeing something familiar from another time, and making that connection blew me away! I must admit, I liked the original game much more as a whole, but the end of this one was epic.

I saw you stream the beta back in the day, the story seemed pretty interesting. I was super dissapointed when I tried the full game and it was completely different.

the scream series did stuff like that. the original's marketing made the opening kill seem like the protagonist, and the second movie had a trailer centered around a monologue, but then in the actual film, that monologue gets interrupted by a kill

as someone who played the game from the earliest release i strongly preferred the original story, i cared about my sister because of our interactions not because the game told me we were related, i cared about finding jeffrey because i wanted to solve the mystery of what happened just before i woke up, and i cared about getting alen a body because i had to hide him from my sister and altera. The final story got rid of all of that, i only wanted to find my sister because i cared about her from the original story, i only wanted to build a body for alen bc thats how the game progressed, there was frankly just no conflict to care about in the story

And THIS is why I'm glad I waited till the full release before playing this one. I didn't even KNOW there was a story rewrite. Either way, I'm hooked

7:40 Literally first thing I went after getting to the pod. I also played in early access so I remembered big base on land, close to the new spawn and entrance is close by. I also went there since I thought it was Delta site. And here someone is just getting awe stunned. Good content.

Jeffries is still in the game as a random guy named “jevov” who appears in a few PDAs, don’t ask

So interesting seeing the moment of the old dilapidated base. I jumped into the game blind cause I hate spoilers and found this area midway through while looking for a builder tool, knowing what this area is and when it should have been found is crazy, and shows just how dynamic this game is.

I love Subnautica & Below Zero and to see Jay Exci talk about it made me actually hyped

"Put a part of the art outside the art, in a way that no-one will expect, but a lot of people will appreciate." Given that my first thought here was 'The Rise of Skywalker x Fortnite', I'm going to go with a NOUGH! on that one.

​i didnt like BZ nearly as much as the first game, it had alot of cool ideas, but most of them were let-downs. Like the leviathans are all jokes, either not being scary, or being easily avoidable. The other creatures are too loud and scary sounding, which makes the leviathans less special by contrast. The story honestly sucks, there are several massive plot holes and inconsistencies and it seems rushed. The vehicles all suck except the prawn suit, which is now way overpowered on land. SOME of the biomes are beautiful though, and the music is nearly as good as the original. I also like how easy it is to get resources. It was fun to play, but not a great game in my opinion.

when jacksepticeye found the old base in the newer early access releases, i was so happy they somehow kept it in for people who knew the original story of the game.

Always do excited to see your videos.

If you enjoy seeing various bits of info converge into single moments, I'd highly recommend Outer Wilds. Without giving too much away, you're constantly gaining new knowledge that you can use to understand areas you may have already been, giving you that feeling you describe at 10:10 and "just needing that little tap" throughout the whole thing. Of course this means you probably shouldn't watch too much of it past what's on the store page and maybe the opening 15 minutes of another person playing it, but it's a masterclass of game design that only really works if you go in pretty blind.

I don't remember either of these openings. From memory, I remember an escape pod. And then there I was, floating in the ocean. I'm not going to go back and check.

This feels like a short after all the essays I've watched recently

Hey there Jay/Jaina, you might never see this comment but since this video and the last one haven't done as well as most others, I wanted to let you know that the stuff you put out is truly great. You're a funny and insightful person. Just in case these last couple of videos not doing so well has caused you to doubt their quality.

This was beautiful to watch. Really interesting though process on this easter egg. Really hope a dev team can pull something like this intentionally nearing ur experience.

Jay had an Undertale moment in a game that wasn't Undertale.

While I understand that cool feeling you get when you see all these pieces come together in this "AHA" moment of realization, this is not a practice I would encourage in any sort of media. Putting some of the art outside the art is a great way to fracture and alienate your target audience. It the exact type of thinking used in the SW sequels of explained the origins of the First Order outside of the films. I'm sure for the people who read them first they felt satisfaction in knowing what was happening, but for everyone else it just felt dumb and incomplete. Having to look outside a piece of entertainment to provide satisfaction is not great design in my opinion. Supplemental materials should be there for people who want to know more, not to gatekeep the experience.

I think a good example of how meta information can impact current story is the recent Witch Queen trailer for destiny 2 and how we have information on the beginning of the next story event while we just started the current one, so now ever bit of dialogue and lore we get we question the implications it has when taken in context with the future information we have as a playerbase and the fact that the main talking point of both Witch Queen and the current season is a character who feeds on lies and deception makes every single detail worth scrutinizing over and omg I love it. Sorry think I got a little off topic maybe it's late and I'm super hype and wanted to type this somewhere and this kinda fit.

disappointed this was not several hours long was looking forward to listening to that sexy voice for the next few hours

I like your content, your voice is nice to listen and your editing skills are high, regards from Poland :3

When he said “artificial barriers of blockage” i lost it

I saw this video, and was inspired to get the game. I stumbled upon this base in my first hour of gameplay, which was very exciting, to say the least

Jay. My friend you are hilarious. I genuinely enjoy your content

I had a very similar moment with the 3rd chapter of Bendy and the Ink Machine. Before the release of the 3rd chapter, the devs released a trailer of the MC running through a hallway from the main antagonist Bendy and hiding in a "miracle station" at the end. When the chapter dropped, the place from the trailer was nowhere to be seen. Then, when chapter 4 dropped, all previous chapters got an update with small new areas to explore and stuff like that. So when it launched I played through all chapters again and when I reached chapter 3 I stumbled about a new hallway that wasn't in the previous release. It seemed pretty familiar but I didn't connect the dots until I reached the end. At the end there was a destroyed miracle station with some inky text on the wall above it. I don't recall what it said, something alongthe lines of "Does this seem familiar?" or something idk. Blew my mind back than.

this cool to me because i had the same experience with discovering the old base from early access the exception of getting the invisible wall treatment a month before release

Forgot that Subnautica existed... and had no idea it it spawned a sequel thingy. Looks pretty interesting, won't lie.

I'm certain there's earlier examples, but regarding Meta storytelling in a way similar to this: The earliest example of a game doing this that I'm aware of is Metal Gear Solid 2. All the set-up, the demo, the trailers, was about Snake. It made it appear as if Snake was the main character. And then when you switch to Raiden, you're Really not expecting it. And then the story winds up being, partially, about concepts such as the media manipulating people, and how misinformation can be spread.

My reaction was the opposite. It made me sad to see that area as just a remnant of what was undeniably a better story. My heart aches for the game that almost was, ruined by whoever made the decision to change the story.

absolutely love u and your commentary 🤍 five hours or not

I loved both Subnautica games… both early access and full games… and still enjoyed watching the Neebs gaming playthrus (below zero is currently in progress). In fact the devs were so pleased with the Neebs crew advertising the game in their playthru they put them into the game as part of an Easter egg. Oh and if you’ve never heard of Neebs gaming, maybe you have heard of Battlefield 4. If you hear someone screaming Battlefield as they crash or “Levolution whoooooohooo”… that’s Neebs.

Ah jay plays subnautica.A new reason to love this channel

Puts EFAP memes in the video then finishes talking about "putting art outside the art". I see what you did there.

They did a similar thing in the Minecraft ps4 version where they made a little hub for the minigames and when they updated it they added a puzzle where you could turn off the water fountain and flip a switch fall through an opening and you could find the original hub derelict underneath the new one and the old fountain is right under the new one

There are so many perfectly cut moments in this video

Rip Jeffereys gone but neither have been forgotten.

I loved this game, but I vastly prefer the first one. The fact that there's now dialogue means there's the risk of it being shit... And it kind of was

not only do I love this game but I love this Channel so double awesome ❤

Jay never fails to make my day :)

you uplaouded twice within a month. I am happy now

This frozen water, or "ice" 10/10 language

I really didn't care for below zero. It the world felt smaller, there was less to do, and it wasn't as scary.

I was terrified that they had put a invisible wall on those stairs and you were about to transition to a scathing take down of them breaking their game logic of freedom and access at such an emotionally pivotal moment.

1:34 My favourite quote from 'The Room'

I love this channel, commenting bc I think the algorithm likes it

I’ve been waiting for a subby video since you mentioned it in that why video games movies don’t have to suck vid :D

You know, I'm gonna say it: If your game hasn't even gotten its main plot figured out yet then your game isn't ready for early access. Your game should not have a wildly different introductory experience to people who played it in EA than those who bought it after release. Your game should have pretty much all major things finished before you go to EA, EA should be a thing you do to get a load of bug finding and balance tweaking done. It really bothers me how many games use EA improperly, and it harms the games too. This kind of thing can split communities, major changes can alienate players who enjoyed things they way they were and resent major updates.

At first I didn't like your smugness... I think I love you now. Keep it up

That’s really cool Jay

They should have named the character in the early access differently. Make it truly a separate story that happened in the same universe in the past

Id love to see more of this!

5:05 *Haha, he said it! He said the thing!*

The computer getting cut off before it can say surface temperature is below zero is such an underrated joke

Man, that jump into water in the end should've saved it till you hit 500k

6:11 What the actual fuck, I live there.