How the Early 90’s Birthed An Authoritarian Movement | John Ganz

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Live-streamed on June 24, 2024
John Ganz, writer of the Unpopular Front newsletter on SubStack, to discuss his recent book When the Clock Broke: Con Men, Conspiracists, and How America Cracked Up in the Early 1990s.
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John Ganz joins, diving right into his metaphor of the broken clock, inspired by the right-wing’s 1990s movement to “break the clock” of social democracy and Francis Fukuyama’s concept of the Neoliberal consensus as the “end of history,” and how it provides a lens into the evolution of the far-right GOP we see today. Ganz then walks through some of the major players in the end of conservatism as we knew it, including the GOP establishment’s rejection (and the voters’ embrace) of KKK Grand Wizard David Duke, the shortcomings of George H. W. Bush’s establishment centrism, and the fore-knowledge of libertarian Pat Buchanan, who would go on to serve as a central rhetorical influence for the presidential campaign of one Donald Trump. Expanding on this, John, Sam, and Emma explore how this era saw the conservative establishment begin to embrace the talk-show culture-war populism of Rush Limbaugh, which, alongside Bill Clinton’s elitism and assimilation to Reagan economics, allowed for the GOP to somehow frame its anti-democratic and anti-working class policies as an anti-elitist anti-establishment agenda. After diving a little deeper into the right wing’s ability (internationally) to frame itself as the ideology for-the-people over the first two decades of the 21st Century, Ganz touches on Biden’s presidency as a continuation of the left wing’s inability to progress its (supposedly progressive) politics, wrapping up the interview with a brief assessment of the future of the US’ two political parties post-Trump and Biden.
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@danielmikula1375 Ай бұрын

I was a teen in the 90s and first started getting my political leanings then. I liked the idea of Bush Sr.'s "compassionate conservatism" and was disappointed by his loss in '92, then started to fall for Limbaugh's fiery rhetoric. Then I grew up.

@gary2kr1 Ай бұрын

I always thought it suspect they had to put the word "compassionate" in front of conservative. It was very telling

@HypatiaMuse Ай бұрын

The kind of scary thing is that even Dubya Bush seems almost likable compared to a lot of the candidates we see now. I was in my early 20s when he was president and at the time I thought he was an utter embarrassment and couldn't get worse than that- boy was I wrong.

@danielmikula1375 Ай бұрын

@@gary2kr1 I think it was done to try to make it more like "bleeding heart liberal" to be honest. A kind of "moderate" conservatism.

@samiamrg7 Ай бұрын

I was born in the 90’s and had a similar trajectory. I thought Republicans were the better group, but I was also like “School says racism is bad, and Church says we can’t just have homeless and disabled people starving in the streets, they should be helped.” My Christian morals and liberal upbringing conflicted with the realities of Conservatism, culminating in hearing a vitriolic segment from Michael Savage fully breaking me away from any illusions that I was really a conservative.

@deadfr0g Ай бұрын

In my opinion at the time, one of the most authoritarian things that I witnessed in the 90s was how my mom would limit the number of cookies that me and my brother were allowed to eat, and I strongly believed that it represented a real failing of the cultural discourse that more people weren’t talking about this. Later, in the early 2000s, I came to understand that cookies are arguably actually more enjoyable when handled responsibly.

@Perspectiveon Ай бұрын

I've studied American politics (mainly foreign policy) since 1980 and haven't one single positive word to say about what has happened since then. Four words dominate my perception; Greed, Lies, Oppression and Exploitation. Sad but true.

@jimbob3030 Ай бұрын

Those 4 words describe the country from it's founding.

@freebirdseed Ай бұрын

It's probably not possible to understand the American "conservative" movement without including religion in that mix.

@findbridge1790 Ай бұрын

@@jimbob3030 FALSE

@jimbob3030 Ай бұрын

@@findbridge1790 You know absolutely nothing about history if you say that. What is your world view based on, is it faith and indoctrination?

@findbridge1790 Ай бұрын

@@jimbob3030 see Anton Chaitkin,historian.

@raoulhubris Ай бұрын

Perot made his money in Special Tax districts in Texas, then ran as anti-government and anti-tax. Pull up the ladder like a Libertarian.

@pjpredhomme7699 Ай бұрын

They always do that - 100% of the time - look at Elmo musk - he has made most of his money from government - and all he does is tries to tear it down I guess it is so no one else can have a chance like he did . it is the same with all of them

@michaelsmith9102 Ай бұрын

Fascinating stroll through much of what we older folks lived through back then.

@czarkusa2018 Ай бұрын

Very much so, a guest with much of value to say on those times and hosts that know what to ask to multiply that value.

@SFDestiny Ай бұрын

@@czarkusa2018 I'm not sure of the value you note. Is there an action item you found?

@Kallistos1 Ай бұрын

Isn't it?

@johnnydub1985 Ай бұрын

Can't believe this was a 1 hour recording. Watched it twice. Goes by quickly!

@RaiderRich2001 Ай бұрын

A deeper dive needs to be done about the impact of the Branch Davidian siege on American politics. Because that launched a lot of the conspiracist right.

@sawtooth808 Ай бұрын

And “The Patriot Movement” Just after The Waco Siege, the White Supremacists, Christian Nationalists (think Church of the Creator) and Sovereign Citizens militias got together and rebranded themselves as “Patriots”… because they got their fee fees hurt when people called them 🌰zis

@pjpredhomme7699 Ай бұрын

No - they were already there - it just validated their "theories " but the thing is with these people - reality has very little to do with it . And all that is rooted in racism too. that is why you see confederate flags

@user-jk9ok7ub9y 6 күн бұрын

@@pjpredhomme7699yes.. confederate flags even in areas of the country that were not confederate

@darkhobo 6 күн бұрын

Just your standard "Turner Diary" right wing nonsense

@johnbarker5009 Ай бұрын

Always remember, Trump isn't an anomaly, he's an inevitability. Once Nixon established "law and order" as a perpetual campaign theme, Reagan established Evangelicals as a core constituency, and the default position became forgiveness of ethical and legal infractions from the GOP "for the good of the country," we were inevitably headed Trumpward.

@SFDestiny 27 күн бұрын

I agree you highlight flexion points, and I share your conclusion. Yet I make a fundamentally different argument. By exchanging timocracy for mob-pandering --cough, democracy-- we consciously eschewed the Constitution and the admonitions of the Founders, not to say 2000 years of settled opinion. "A Republic if you can keep it."

@montrelouisebohon-harris7023 18 күн бұрын

I live in Virginia and over the past 32 years there have been 20 years of Democrat president and only 12 years of Republican so you can’t say that our country is Morgan terminated because since 1990 to 1990s it’s been definitely more left and since 2008 or 2009 it’s been going more and more left from what I’ve observed, was looking at it from A distance and objectively

@SFDestiny 18 күн бұрын

@@montrelouisebohon-harris7023 I don't understand how you can describe Drumpf45 as Right (or Left). Just consider all the "Christians" who now feel Jesus is too Liberal; he's not evening "conserving" Christianity.

@johnbarker5009 16 күн бұрын

@@montrelouisebohon-harris7023 I'm honestly not sure what you were trying to say, but government is more than the President. It's Congress. It's the courts. It's the states. Gridlock plays a roll, and Republicans have worked mightily to gridlock the government when they can't control it.

@eruc3ht 10 күн бұрын

@@montrelouisebohon-harris7023 you forget the effects of the electoral college, and gerrymandering.

@mariog7213 Ай бұрын

This is one of the better interviews y’all have had in a while. I was born in 84 so there’s a lot of context that’s easy to miss when just reading about past presidencies and the movements surrounding them

@user-cp5eu5gb5w Ай бұрын

David dukes a heartless bastard

@intellectually_lazy Ай бұрын

i think he has or had a show on fox news, just like ollie north

@deadfr0g Ай бұрын

1:51 Hahaha. I am 100% on board with what Sam was getting at here, but this is fantastic bit material. “Now just hold on a second, that doesn’t make any sense: clocks only _tell_ the time, they don’t _create_ the time!” “Yeah!!! And ALSO, seconds aren’t tangible objects, so we can’t physically hold onto them!!” Historians please file this under times that Sam has stood up for the interests of the autism spectrum community. 🤣👌

@philhiller-mn1gw Ай бұрын

Can you hold on to Genius, Creativity, Mathematics, come on man.

@TEHBILB Ай бұрын

@@philhiller-mn1gwI can, can’t you? ;)

@intellectually_lazy Ай бұрын

um, sure, everything is about you, and there's no way that applies to literally everyone. you all are becoming elitists

@yasminea7149 Ай бұрын

This clock talk reminds me of when the Taliban in Afghanistan back in the days said the Americans have fancy watches but we have time.

@intellectually_lazy Ай бұрын

wow. great line

@organichumanintelligence Ай бұрын

The. 1996. Telecommunications. Act.

@eatfrenchtoast Ай бұрын

Opened up communication by forcing the bells to lease out their phone lines?

@organichumanintelligence Ай бұрын

@@eatfrenchtoast Um, lifting the 35% market ownership for one media company?? Led to vertical integration and synergies created by a consolidation of the industry? This is why we have 5 media corporations controlling all the world's media?

@Damacles9 Ай бұрын

@@organichumanintelligence Bingo!!!!

@Damacles9 Ай бұрын

Repeal and replace with competent input, designed to thwart fascist propaganda mills, and reinstate the Fairness Doctrine. Deregulation is 99.9999% of the time an economic and social contract scam which tends toward monopoly. And here we are throwing AI into the morass with Citizens United. Smh....

@intellectually_lazy Ай бұрын

@@eatfrenchtoast what's this game you're playing? monopoly! is that a dig at me [ma bell flips over board]

@jackselvia2709 Ай бұрын

Not so much authoritarian as nihilist, and the nihilism leads to authoritarianism. Franklin described it, at the end of the 2nd Constitutional convention, as a matter of character and corruption.

@ChannelMath Ай бұрын

I'm the same age so I remember all this stuff, too. And it's great to realize that the adults were wrong when they said "you just couldn't understand", because now I know that they didn't get it either, and in fact, a lot of it just didn't make any sense at all

@davidhutchinson5233 Ай бұрын

Mr. Ganz's assessment is spot on. As are your's and Emma's Sam. I was 23 in 1990. I remember it all.

@intellectually_lazy Ай бұрын

i was a precocious 14 year old

@intellectually_lazy Ай бұрын

i got up and played war pigs the morning of the invasion of iraq. that really made a difference

@intellectually_lazy Ай бұрын

and oh yeah, watched it on cnn that evening

@pjpredhomme7699 Ай бұрын

@@intellectually_lazy It is an absolutely awesome song

@LilBnnuy 22 күн бұрын

I was a toddler in 1990, didn't start paying attention to what was going on with politics until 9/11 happened.

@Kallistos1 Ай бұрын

A few years back, early in Trump's campaign I found my news clippings from 1992 for my college newspaper columns. The Perot Voters statements, and the protectionist policies were strikingly, almost copied from Perot. My ex ditched my old clippings Archive a little later when she moved in. But the similarities were noticeable

@edwardmemwah1610 Ай бұрын

Rush Limbo! How low can he go? Well ... six feet under, I guess.

@intellectually_lazy Ай бұрын

dope kills

@rileylabski 25 күн бұрын

And not a moment too soon

@user-jk9ok7ub9y 6 күн бұрын

But it still annoys me that dtrumpf gave him the presidential medal of honor before he died. Horrible man that for some reason people listened to.

@buddyflood6761 4 күн бұрын

Limbaugh was lower than 6 ft under when he was alive

@AutumnSwatches Ай бұрын

44:58 (great quote) “He combines the appeal of a third party candidate with a major party infrastructure.”

@ingehanson Ай бұрын

That's one of the main reason I believe he won in 2016. I have been voting Independent ever since jimmy Carter but voted for Trump because he represented that Third Party feel. It was not long before I saw that a lot what he did was just "smoke and mirrors" and he was good at it but not really changing policies. Yet, because he talked and talked and praised himself over and over again people actually started believing that he really accomplished thing he actually did not. Going on right wing websites people believe that he brought manufacturing home from abroad, that he changed the entire immigration system, that he changed Obamacare, that he did a great job during Covid and on adn on. That's the power of Trump - he sees a problem, does not really know how to fic it but convinces many people that he is the only person in the universe that can fix those things.

@leanordials8008 Ай бұрын

@@ingehansonpeople believe his lies.

@intellectually_lazy Ай бұрын

i'm voting for the guy who's 3rd party, but it's changed a couple times this year which one. a guy who found the green party to be too factionalized and political. i'm voting for cornel west. lol, i actually remember when he used to be a pundit on meet the press (not to be confused with cornel belcher, who currently is)

@intellectually_lazy Ай бұрын

@@leanordials8008 "his" lies have been aggressively peddled to the american people since the time of ronald reagan

@LaSerpentDEden Ай бұрын

@@intellectually_lazycornel West is a hack 😂

@Barklord Ай бұрын

@32:00 they talk about the way Republicans have managed to obscure the conflicts of interest between Billionaire owners and the regular working class. There is a really good paper about the deliberate attempt to di this after WW1 called, *Against the Classes and the Masses: The American Legion, The American Federation of Labor, and Square Deal Americanism in the 1920s* by Gregory Hopely.

@famfamfam5782 Ай бұрын

Oh wow this is great a big get. This guy’s substack is a tour de force.

@Teeveepicksures Ай бұрын

The internet put the Art Bell fans in close too proximity to the Protocols of Elders of Zion fans and here we are.

@jaymitchell9993 Ай бұрын

Buchanan was born in Nixon's womb.

@Damacles9 Ай бұрын

And Roger Stone, Rumsfeld, Chaney, and the Anti-Christ.

@billybigwig1154 Ай бұрын

Love the show. Left is best.

@intellectually_lazy Ай бұрын

so put your comrade to the test

@Gettothegone Ай бұрын

😂

@calvinware7957 Ай бұрын

That's ultimately my biggest problem with Biden. Its a competitive election where it should not be at all. That was a similiar fear many expressed about Hilary Clinton often being in Margin of Error territory with trump, but back then a lot of people didn't believe Trump would be capable of winning. In the face of that reaction, and everything that has happened since 2016, the fact biden is polling below trump is unacceptable.

@TaxTheChurches. Ай бұрын

This was so informative. Thank you to Mr Ganz and Emma.

@lauracohen4914 Ай бұрын

I sincerely hope Biden Harris win in 2024. I'm voting for them, I'm voting for our democracy, I don't like dictators.

@user-tu4rn8ui9u Ай бұрын

Right there with you

@AceofDlamonds Ай бұрын

Very fascinating and much needed discussion. I heard of something like this when it came to the "antiestablishment" militia movements and related events. These people were only antiestablishment with respect to the liberal order.

@RonanGallagherBand Ай бұрын

Trump has been coming since Nixon.

@pjpredhomme7699 Ай бұрын

Nixon would not be allowed anywhere near the Magas - Nixon created the EPA - he really - passed all domestic politics to Ehrlichman - who was socially liberal in a lot of ways - definitely was pro -environment which would be completely heretical. Trump and maga is all about some type of populism for retards which really is just a veiled racism. Nixon really cared less about domestic affairs - he was only interested in foreign policy . He used to say he could care less about who builds outhouses in Peoria - that was his interpretation of domestic politics

@wilhelmheinzerling5341 Ай бұрын

Great video! More like these!

@ringohuge370 Ай бұрын

Great Stuff! Year End Special Replay Worthy! Will be listening to audiobook later! Also we use to call Bill Clinton “Elvis Kennedy” - he was a sophisticated hick , which was common in Arkansas. Thank You!

@peterlehocky88 Ай бұрын

great overview, extremely informative thank you!!

@aznetglobal4036 Ай бұрын

Time marches on. A clock only looks like a circle because it's the top on a spiral that notes the passing from future to past. Love you guys!

@elainascott7496 23 күн бұрын

I was a teen in the 90's and I was repulsed by Limbaugh and Bucannon and all of those right wing nut jobs. Even in middle school I was aware.

@qjtvaddict Ай бұрын

And they have the nerve to complain when people get angry at them

@danielpincus221 Ай бұрын

When I got wind of how much the Jacques Derrida school of deconstructionism had conquered a lot of American academia in the 1990s, I became concerned.

@Larrymh07 Ай бұрын

I still think Michael Dukakis looked presidential driving that tank.

@selfish-perverse-n-turbulent Ай бұрын

Yes, a civilian Commander in Chief who is as interested in peace as in war.

@Larrymh07 Ай бұрын

@@selfish-perverse-n-turbulent it was a sarcastic statement on my part.

@selfish-perverse-n-turbulent Ай бұрын

@@Larrymh07 and I was sarcastic to your sarcasm. We really never needed a chicken hawk who played a tough guy in spaghetti westerns

@Groucho_Marxist_ASMR Ай бұрын

Rosh Limbo?😂

@mitchellwood4133 Ай бұрын

I think it's like Sam's bill "Fryst" or Liz/Lynn cheny. It's great.

@selfish-perverse-n-turbulent Ай бұрын

Rich Limpboy

@buddyflood6761 4 күн бұрын

How about rust limbawl? Lol

@Groucho_Marxist_ASMR 4 күн бұрын

@@buddyflood6761 Raunch Limpballs

@jaymitchell9993 Ай бұрын

Murphy Brown and TV in general asked people to be empathic. White men who needed a hug said, "What about me?"

@martinwhalley3286 Ай бұрын

"You're no Jack Kennedy!"

@yossarrian Ай бұрын

The PEAK of clocks was '99

@yossarrian Ай бұрын

Civilization's Midnight, if you will, Morpheus

@keithk8275 Ай бұрын

@@yossarrianor Prince

@Sampoochy Ай бұрын

Coldplay had the reprise

@Damacles9 Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@diannef315 23 күн бұрын

I wasn’t really paying attention to politics in 1992 when Perot was a presidential candidate. I was 42 and had only voted for democrats since 1972 bc I knew the main goal of every republican was to repeal Roe. I was married with 2 young children, and Perot said the US debt was going to crush our children and grandchildren, and he was prochoice so I voted 3rd party for him. But since then, I have never voted for a candidate that wasn't democrat and prochoice.

@rachel-kx5cs 22 күн бұрын

You voted for Perot even though he'd completely, mysteriously dropped out of the race several months before November ??? You and I are the same age. I felt forced to vote for Clinton with deep , perplexed disappointment and regret ever since.

@user-jk9ok7ub9y 6 күн бұрын

Buchanan and Limbaugh! Two names that I would like to forget

@nsbd90now Ай бұрын

The Pat Buchanan-Trump alignment is wild.

@ledaswan5990 20 күн бұрын

Side note. My band at that time was hired to play a party on a Saturday I believe it was. On Friday I happened to see a newspaper article that there would be a rally the following day featuring David David as guest speaker in the same parking lot we were supposed to play in. I immediately called my band mates and told them,and of we of course said fuck no we aren’t showing up for that. So we didn’t and were fired from our regular club gig since the owner had something to do with the rally. A bit of Louisiana history. Duke was running for governor against famously corrupt Edwin Edwards. The bumper stickers said “Vote For The Crook”.

@jaymitchell9993 Ай бұрын

When you get the steering wheel (a metaphor for some kind of control) and you realize that life still sucks in a capitalist, reductionist, scarcity-based social structure, you get mad and you need your mommy. That's Rush Limbaugh and all tea partiers and all MAGA in a nutshell.

@tylerhackner9731 Ай бұрын

Very interesting era

@buddyflood6761 4 күн бұрын

I remember Jim Carry,s read my hips!!! LMAO

@mmeis2389 Ай бұрын

If Volinsky can do it - so can Jon Stewart. A Jon Stewart - Aoc ticket...imagine...His cabinet would be his writers doin what they are now - because we get it. Both Comedians. Clinton stole the wallstreet donors repug angle and they hated it.

@Damacles9 Ай бұрын

Is AOC 35 years old, the minimum age to become POTUS? Ok. She'll be 35 in October 2025. 9 months of uncertainty.

@TerryYelmene Ай бұрын

good - informative show

@milascave2 Ай бұрын

After Dan. Quail went against Murphy Brown, he realized that going after a (fictional) mother and baby was not a great look. So he, Quail, sent the (fictional) baby a gift. Where he sent that gift I don't know, but he made sure that the media knew that he did it. Americans were new to that level of political banality. Now, of course, we are used to it. Nixon, who was viewed as the devil himself by the liberals and leftists of his day, actually was kind of liberal in many areas in. comparison to the Republican, and in some ways, even. the Democratic, presidents that were to come.

@pjpredhomme7699 Ай бұрын

Quayle understood the importance of the media - that is what he came from - his family owned newspapers - in Indiana - and I think Illinois. yes Nixon would never be welcomed in Maga he would be considered way too liberal for them - he was just not functionally retarded

@buddyflood6761 4 күн бұрын

Nixon actually did a thing or 2 right,but he did a lot of things wrong,like the HMO healthcare system, there's actually a recording of him talking about giving people less healthcare through some new plan the very next day he's on tv saying how great it's going to be

@realmichaud Ай бұрын

I remember those times quite well. I was 18/19 at the time.

@olewetdog6254 27 күн бұрын

This started with Reagan.

@buddyflood6761 4 күн бұрын

Yep, I'm 65 and was paying attention then,Reagan did a lot of damage

@organichumanintelligence Ай бұрын

Lim "BAW"? This guy is making me nuts!! I feel like Sam is helping this guy along revising his Master's thesis. 😂 Any example Sam brought up like Clinton in Mickey D's, etc. this guy was like "yea" 😅

@tednugent1100 26 күн бұрын

my boy john! love the book

@noeltaylor3594 Ай бұрын

Roast Perot. Founded EDS-Electronic Data System.

@pofoto1950 20 күн бұрын

Great report!

@ggunnelspct 26 күн бұрын

What a difference three weeks makes.

@umasobservations Ай бұрын

How many times these presenters have stumbled on their words, forgotten a name, I couldn't remember several different times in this conversation. Why do people judge old people for the same things they give themselves a pass for?

@user-jk9ok7ub9y 6 күн бұрын

Exactly! I told my older sister to stop getting all upset if she occasionally forgets where she was in a conversation. That use to happen when we were younger as well but the difference then was we just shrugged it off. Now she goes immediately to wondering if she is getting senile

@beatleowl Ай бұрын

I wish that could have gone on for another hour!

@ChannelMath Ай бұрын

Carrying Limbaugh's bags?? LOL. However... as an honorary WASP, this makes sense to me. It is a very WASPy thing to do for a number of reasons that I'll try to articulate: It shows you aren't pretentious (at least, not about your actions), and that you know the Protestant values of work, humility, and being healthy (and might be a fun sporting chap -- although I doubt that's what Limbo was about). WASPs try to show their wealth subtly, if at all, and even sometimes contradictorily: the more worn a WASP's Sperrys are, the more time he spends sailing (I think this is only true of kids, tbh. But I was kicked out of the sailing club when I turned 18 and didn't pay the adult dues). So they try to minimize the visibility of the servants. (Victorians created all kinds of neat inventions for this purpose) Also, I assume Limbaugh is Irish, right? At that time, to some people in the Northeast, I bet that fact was still notable

@ericdaniel323 Ай бұрын

What eventually became the Civil Rights Act of 1992 was the impetus for one of the most notorious political ads in my memory - Jesse Helms’s “white hands” commercial.

@DorianPaige00 Ай бұрын

That was so mild compared to today.

@intellectually_lazy Ай бұрын

just watched it. thanks for the tip. reminds me of the dead dad in american history x

@Bunty68 Ай бұрын

That commercial ran in '90 when he campaigned against Harvey Gantt.

@ericdaniel323 Ай бұрын

@@Bunty68 right. It mentions Ted Kennedy and quotas, which some claimed would be consequences of the civil rights act of 1990 (vetoed by GHW Bush).

@lauracohen4914 Ай бұрын

Such an interesting show, thanks, John Ganz!

@mybachhertzbaud3074 Ай бұрын

The "birthing" goes back much further. The Johnson/ Nixon years and likely before that.🤔

@alistairmackintosh9412 Ай бұрын

Modern conservatism is a combined reaction to FDR's New Deal and the civil rights movement of the '50s and '60s.

@ryancappo 29 күн бұрын

I think it was the 60’s for sure. The civil rights battle, and then some people getting sent to Vietnam while the others were partying at Woodstock has influenced politics for the past 50 years.

@shadetreader 9 күн бұрын

The destruction of the Soviet Union inevitably led to the fascist mess we're today. Anti-communism always helps fascists. Pin this if you care about fighting right-wing bigotry and exploitation.

@SuperStrik9 9 күн бұрын

I'll never forget Bush's "Read my lips" moment. One of the most effective campaign ads by the democrats was when they used it against him. Also Dan Quayle not being able to spell potato wasn't a good look.

@blahpunk1 Ай бұрын

Great interview! Thanks.

@sheilawade433 Ай бұрын

25:57 Limbau gh amped up what Jesse Helms and the National Congressional Club started in the 60's and 70's 31:40 They co-opted John Edwards 2 America's campaign

@fugazi225 Ай бұрын

thanks for info

@Savethepeople2004 Ай бұрын

Nah, the nineties wouldnt do that. Never.

@Savethepeople2004 Ай бұрын

@@spanqueluv9er Thank you for you're service

@ownedinc4274 Ай бұрын

Mark Fisher also rights about the death of the future.

@msdaphne Ай бұрын

I love the eord "scuttlebutt" is a nautical term for gossip. And boat people are such gossips.

@UserName_no1 Ай бұрын

27:49 Very much like Jim Carrey' character in 'The Cable Guy'. 29:27 Hint: Semiconductors.

@jso6790 Ай бұрын

I always think of the documentary "The Power of Nightmares" when these sorts of conversations emerge. It made so much sense to me in the early Obama years.

@River10081 Ай бұрын

There’s a recent Ted Talk posted on KZfaq titled: The Psychology of Authoritarianism. I found it helpful to watch with an open mind - willing to recognize these factors in the hard right and the hard left today. Am I able to see authoritarianism wherever it appears is the question to ask ourselves. Democracy is the opposite of authoritarianism. Is this consistent with democracy is the question to ask. We so much need the center majority to take hold and abandon the hard right and left. These extremes both foment fear. polarization and authoritarianism.

@user-jk9ok7ub9y 6 күн бұрын

We know that extreme right is MAGA, white supremacists, and religious zealots. What is extreme left? Acceptance of others and awareness of climate change? When I was young (in the 70s) that which they call extreme left was normal

@whitenoiseuk Ай бұрын

* 90s doesn’t require an apostrophe so 90’s I’m afraid is wrong. I’m just saying. No hostility is implied. Best wishes to all.

@joeyboikly 19 күн бұрын

How low can you go.. it starts with Rush limbo😂

@justsignmeup911 9 күн бұрын

A month and a half is such a long time ago.

@haraldisdead Ай бұрын

Wish i could get paid to write "we live in hell" in 500 words.

@virtue_signal_ 27 күн бұрын

Kamala for president...

@NukeDoggyDog Ай бұрын

It doesn't go round and round when it's broke.

@subgenso6282 Ай бұрын

There's something coming. A radicalism fueled by anger. Amorphous as of yet, taking shape once it finds a vessel to fill

@Damacles9 Ай бұрын

Impasses and incrementalism now fueled by Citizens United bribery are seen as betrayal of good faith. The deliberate withholding of material benefits to the masses and letting the bulwark of democracy be undermined by nefarious fascist conservative forces are a big part of the powder keg. I feel a summer of 1968 coming on as we swim in a sea of assault weapons, malfeasance, foreign meddling, and economic instability. Ball of confusion....

@michaelmacisaac7742 Ай бұрын

‘If the rule you follow has gotten you to this place…. What good is that rule?’ Anton. Bleeding out of social capital…. Killer on the loose.

@tedmusson5179 7 күн бұрын

He was inner circle JFK execution. The only person who was in Dealey Plaza and who could not remember where he was when JFK was executed.

@buddyflood6761 4 күн бұрын

You talking about Bush?

@rafaelpena4269 Ай бұрын

14:20-What does that have to do w/ Rodney King🤦🏾

@bunyipdragon9499 Ай бұрын

He wasn't saying that the Murphy Brown stuff was the cause of the Rodney King incident but that the Right used it to deflect away from any obvious racist stuff by using a famous white person issue as the example of society breaking down and why. He's explaining how long the media style cultural stuff has been happening in order to manipulate people.

@travisconway6329 Ай бұрын

Limbo

@intellectually_lazy Ай бұрын

i don't think i'm gonna watch this. don't like podcast format, but great comment section. take a thumb up you

@tonyhill2318 Ай бұрын

Since fella is having a hard time understanding clock thing, I'll explain it: a full reading of a clock includes the date, including the year, which is linear not circular. Understand now?

@irritatingindiana886 8 күн бұрын

Clinton FMLA. We had just had 8 years of Raegan then Busch old stuffy men.

@rawlsrules Ай бұрын

Not a fan of Bush, but how is hospitality a shameful display? That aside, this was a really good conversation.

@morganjones9310 12 күн бұрын

Rush Limbo???? Can’t he pronounce his name right after all that study? lol 😂

@bryonbiondolillo6545 Ай бұрын

David Duke....well there's some Jefferson Parish history for you right there.... unfinished jobs have consequences....MakeReconstructionGreatAgain

@twilitezn Ай бұрын

Yeah, it's "funny" how when America "deals" with it's nonwhite enemies of the moment : Native Americans Afro Americans Vietnam Japan Iraq, etc ...they will raze that MF to the ground, AND salt the earth. But when it comes to LEGITIMATE threats to the state, who "happen" to be white : Confederates Neo Nazis KKK Zionists, etc ...it's all appeasement, pandering, and "boys will be boys"..... EVERYTHING that they're discussing can be traced back to the Confederacy Leaders not being duly executed for being traitors, and ripping out that poisoned tree by the roots...so now those same "ideals" aren't seen as wrong, Reconstruction is overthrown - another seditious act - and it regrows/rebrands/metastasizes through the Daughters of the Confederacy, Dixiecrats, Nixon's Southern Strategy, Reagan's Moral Majority, Lee Atwater, Pat Buchanan, Jesse Helms, the Tea Party, etc...into what MAGA is today and beyond..... I swear it's less that they never learn, and more like : "We had no INTENTION of ever learning."

@saam6768 Ай бұрын

had to click the thumbnail bc i couldnt believe the pharmabro was a leftist.

@bbbbbennyandthejets Ай бұрын

Wean wrote that in Waco, they needed to retrieve weapons that were stolen from a national guard warehouse in Oxnard CA then further traced to Menachem Begin. And that at OKC, they needed retrieve documents which would have exposed their treachery in bonds and depredations S&L and of giant corporations

@Damacles9 Ай бұрын

Like Silverado S&L? Like WTC7 and Enron?