How the F*ck do you use the Tune-Bot???

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Күн бұрын

If you've been around my channels for a while, you'll know that the tunebot features heavily in all of my tuning videos and snare tone deep dives. I've gotten TONNES of messages and comments asking all manner of different questions. In this 25min+ video, I detail what I find so useful about the Tune-Bot, address some common misconceptions, demonstrate how I use it on a beautiful Evetts spotted gum snare, show you some useful workarounds and answer YOUR questions!
Phew... that was a big one! I didn't think this video would be as involved as it is, and there's probably more I could have included! Enjoy!
Patreon: / eligreendrums
Instagram: / eligreendrums
Snare: Evetts Drums 14x5.75" Spotted Gum
Heads: Remo CS Coated / Evans 300 Snare Side
Mics:
Snare: Sm57 top and bottom
Overheads: Rode NT5
Knee Mic: SM7B
Close Rooms: MXL V76G
Mono Room: Carillon Axis 88

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@philipcullin983 2 ай бұрын

Brother this is the BEST video I've seen on this tool. What a fantastic explanation of how to get the most from it while mitigating any confusion that can sometimes arise. I would love to see a video with your experience and advice with it on kick drums with a hole cut out for a kick mic and toms too if you're down to complete the series. I'm trying to get that big open Simon Phillips or Keith Carlock sound with my kick & toms and it has been like you said: a steep learning curve. Killer content - keep up the great work!

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! I do have a kick tuning video over on my IG, but it’s more specific to a modern rock/metal sound. A Carlock kick video would be pretty sweet!

@philipcullin983 7 күн бұрын

@@EliGreenDrums I’ll check out your ig - thanks!

@westbrad6808 2 ай бұрын

Exactly how I use it and great explanation. Whatever the argument. Each head can be tuned to an exact note, including top and bottom at intervals apart

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

You get it!

@3L3V3NDRUMS 2 ай бұрын

I'm 15 and I've got a tune-bot since a few weeks! And man it helped me a lot to increase the drum sound! Love this tool! 🤘🤘🤘

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

Awesome to hear!

@DirtyMisfit 2 ай бұрын

My dude!!!! Thanks for dropping this video in, been waiting for this 👊

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

Welcome mate! Hope it helps!

@ChristopherDrinkard Ай бұрын

You're the best bro!!! This is super helpful! Cheers :)

@martinmees878 2 ай бұрын

Right on, man. I love the high range function on the Studio Model.

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

Great addition!

@3L3V3NDRUMS 2 ай бұрын

Yeah! I love my studio version a lot🤘🤘🤘

@brettreed2873 2 ай бұрын

thanks for the video, great reminders of the useful settings to get better results. I love using it together with the app - the suggested tunings really help you focus on the differences between reso/batter relationships, trying new tunings, and coping the tunings of tune-bot artists. For gigs I find the tone that I like for that group of tunes and write the numbers right on the head - touch up at intermission if there is one, or get it right back to the same tone the next night. As you mentioned, the sound guy loves it -- me too!

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

How awesome is that! The app is super useful and very underrated. Great to see someone else using it in the same manner!

@jarrettheale Ай бұрын

Awesome video - greatly appreciated!

@EliGreenDrums Ай бұрын

Welcome! Thanks!

@ctrodrums 2 ай бұрын

This is one of the most comprehensive tuning videos I've seen. I've playing with this little machine for almost one decade, and I've found the same spots on many snare drums I've tuned. So this video is basically a good summary on how to get there. When you say before the tunebot, it felt like there was no final destination to drum tuning, I absolutely felt 100% interpreted on that feeling, because I got through that with this little machine. Finally 294 is my all around standard, 277 for nasty rockish with little muffing, and 233 with tons of tape with that low indie/pop sound. I would like to see a video of Part II on toms and bass drum, where I also found another gems, another nice spots.

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

Sounds like we’re two peas in a pod mate! I love all those same tuning references! Seems like toms and kick needs to be a thing!

@ctrodrums 2 ай бұрын

@@EliGreenDrums Yeah, mainly because tunebot reference manual didn't make any sense, at least for me. So, it was like starting from scratch.

@choppanvamiss Ай бұрын

You’re a G for this!!! Thank you.

@foxbodyjosh8737 Ай бұрын

Great video, very informative thanks!

@EliGreenDrums Ай бұрын

Glad you got something out of it!

@chanceaustin_ 2 ай бұрын

Great video mate. Love my tune-bot. Love your Dream setup too. I play all Dream as well

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

Thank you bro! How great are Dreams?!

@arturofernandez6088 Ай бұрын

Great instructional video!🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

@EliGreenDrums Ай бұрын

Cheers!

@mickeybarajas4865 2 ай бұрын

Great video !

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@drumzilla60 2 ай бұрын

Man that's a nice drum.! Awesome video as always bro... I actually like the ring that you think is wild... 😂

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

Thanks mate! I think it’s cool too but man, you should have heard it in the room! 🔔

@jeremybuswell 2 ай бұрын

Funnily enough, I just pulled the trigger & purchased a Studio model online today, I’m keen to get the most & best sound out of my drums that I can. Great video Eli, thanks for the advice & knowledge 🙌🏻

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

Awesome! Hopefully these tips help!

@jimhoman4415 4 күн бұрын

Loved this!! Do one this indepth for toms on a whole set please!!

@EliGreenDrums 4 күн бұрын

Definitely! I’ve got that one cooking!

@silvermineband2719 Ай бұрын

The Tune Bot Gig model is my absolute go to. I have multiple units and keep one in my gig bag. Every person I’ve talked to that’s had issues was simply using it wrong or didn’t understand how to access the features.

@EliGreenDrums Ай бұрын

Interesting! Have you compared it to other non-gig units? Because I did, and it was very different. And I definitely know my way around these devices. I’d love to think it was an anomaly but have had quite a few similar stories from people who know what’s up with them. Maybe a bad batch?

@cvllum3595 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video man it’s really insightful, especially as I’m in the midst of buying my dream drum kit so it has me considering getting one for helping to tune up the snare and toms as I have never really done it before - related to this, it would be great to get a similar video on how to tune toms with it as I have 4 toms so would like to how to get them tuned (with various high/ low tunings) whilst having them being still the right key apart from each other if that makes sense!

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

Check my Instagram for the tom tuning reel I made! It is exactly that but for 3 toms. I do have a 5 Tom monster PDP kit at the studio that would be awesome to do a huge Tom tuning video on. Definitely a lot of work but would be cool!

@cvllum3595 2 ай бұрын

@@EliGreenDrums I actually found the video on your instagram not long after commenting this and it is very insightful so thank you for that! I agree it would be a lot of work, but would be cool to do a big Tom tuning video!

@DrummerRIP Ай бұрын

Thank you! 10 out of 10! 🙏🏻🤓

@EliGreenDrums Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@scottm6690 Ай бұрын

Thank you!!! Bought one years ago and could never get it to work the way I thought it should so it’s been sitting in a drawer gathering dust while my drums just didn’t have that sound that I knew they could bring but just could never get get there without a LOT of effort.

@EliGreenDrums Ай бұрын

Completely understand that frustration! Hopefully these tips can demystify it for you and get those drums sounding amazing!

@houseofdyer Ай бұрын

I was about to give up on the tune bot. Thanks for this video! Gonna try it tomorrow.

@EliGreenDrums Ай бұрын

Awesome! Let me know how you go!

@houseofdyer 18 күн бұрын

@@EliGreenDrums trying tonight. Stay “tuned”.

@thepluggy1 19 сағат бұрын

How did it go?@@houseofdyer

@ReeBPM Ай бұрын

Definitely going to pick one up. Ive made a lot of progress with tuning, but it still a weak spot and having some objectivity MUST help!

@EliGreenDrums Ай бұрын

Exactly! It’s a great tool for development.

@XeRo333 2 ай бұрын

My go-to pitch for my snare that I absolutely love is a B(390hz & 400hz) it gives me the nice attack and tone I want out of a snare🤘🏼

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

Big sleep token vibes up that high! Love it!

@stevenwilson9865 28 күн бұрын

Vintage drummer, who's over the years have tried many tuning techniques. Tune-Bot has revolutionized drum tuning. Perfect pitch, on a note. Makes all the difference. My drums instantly sounded better.. Pick your resonance level, tune, and play..😊

@thebeardedkozak 2 ай бұрын

Love the detailed dive! Also, for anyone saying drums shouldn't be tuned to pitches or don't have one, I agree it seems very closed minded. Especially considering how many legend drummers and producers have stated that tuning your drums to fit into a certain pitch of a song can make a massive difference in overall production. If the song is in a specific key, why wouldn't you start by tuning your drums to a key that will compliment it rather than muddying it up? Just my take. Another solid video, dude.

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

Thank you mate! I completely agree. I had a studio experience where that exact thing happened and we all couldn’t believe how much of a difference it made having everything be dialled into the key.

@livemixpriyan 15 күн бұрын

This snare soudn awesome Eli. Can u please tell us, more detail such as: 1. Snare Head 2. Mic ( as i c it is a sm57 right) or have u use any other mics to? 3. Reso Head 4. and what u did in Processing ( Gate, Compressor, or what else?)+ Thanks a lot in Advance

@kurtiswdrums6319 13 күн бұрын

Do you use the snare bottom feature when you’re tuning the snare bottom? Or do you always just leave it on the default drum and head selection?

@EliGreenDrums 13 күн бұрын

Yeah I leave it on the default. I’ve noticed no real difference with those settings.

@nickbutler6750 Ай бұрын

Mine is the studio and jumps around all over the place, tried the filter but literally changes every time. so odd!

@EliGreenDrums Ай бұрын

That’s interesting. I would check a) how closely tuned the drum head is so begin with, b) how hard you’re striking the drum (louder = more inconsistent) and c) how much of the drumhead is resonating. ie, are you muting the middle of the head and tapping near the edge, and perhaps muting the resonant head to stop any extra ringing? Try those troubleshooting methods!

@thepluggy1 2 ай бұрын

I'd love a comparison between the Tune bot and smartphone tuning apps. Have you tried any of these apps? I use drumtune Pro paid version and think it's actually very good. But always am thinking about purchasing a TB. I always use 2 tuning keys when I Tune, this has become second nature to my tuning now

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

Funny you say that, one of the next videos is going to be right up your alley!!

@thepluggy1 2 ай бұрын

@EliGreenDrums cool. I'm a new sub and am definitely enjoying your channel, really good content 👌

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much mate!

@BeatsAndMeats 2 ай бұрын

I get MUCH more consistent results with the Tunebot vs the iDrumTune Pro app. The resonant tuning feature in the IDTP app is super interesting. If you buy his book and read it cover to cover, you'll know why that little tidbit of info is so valuable.

@thepluggy1 2 ай бұрын

@BeatsAndMeats never tried the IDTP, but it's probably close enough to the Drumtune Pro I'd imagine.

@hinweg5320 22 күн бұрын

08:02 This is not an one full turn but a half one of the key, 180°

@EliGreenDrums 22 күн бұрын

You’re not wrong but I call it a full turn because that’s the full rotation of my wrist. It’s a repeatable movement that a lot of drummers refer to that as a full turn, even though it’s obviously 180°

@allenmitchell09 2 ай бұрын

I have a drum dial and get amazing results. I don’t really care about tuning to notes really. Would I benefit from one of these?

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

I’m actually going to do some comparison testing against the dial and the tension watch, so hold off on any purchases til that video is made!

@allenmitchell09 2 ай бұрын

@@EliGreenDrums dude that’s awesome! I get so much hate from the drum community when I mention using the drum dial. But when I do I also get people saying, hey you should try the tune bot. I really didn’t know how it worked until I watched this. Nobody cares if a guitarist or bassist use a tuner. 🤷

@allenmitchell09 2 ай бұрын

@@EliGreenDrums Is this going to be a 3 way comparison between the dial, the bot, and the watch? Or just the dial and watch? Bc I think all 3 would be cool.

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

@allenmitchell09 on no, we’re going all in on this. If I’m going to do it, I’m only going to do it once and compare EVERYTHING 😂

@allenmitchell09 2 ай бұрын

@@EliGreenDrums H to tha mfn yeah! Dude you sound like the type of drummer who’d light a f’n fire under a band and get everybody cooking! Na I appreciate what you’re doing bc this here is breaking new ground in drumming and I’m glad to be apart of it.

@eucabusas 2 ай бұрын

Struggled with it for a while but once you get the hang of it, it's pretty handy.

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

Super handy!

@XeRo333 2 ай бұрын

Tune-Bot with some Rock Locks. Then your drums will never go out of tune again!

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

Love rock locks!!

@777samuraijosh 2 ай бұрын

Okay but how do you switch to tune bot to the bottom head

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

You turn the drum over. You don’t need to switch any modes on the tunebot. I literally never use those settings. Just leave it on the standard tuning screen and go for gold!

@777samuraijosh 2 ай бұрын

@EliGreenDrums that's what I do but I can't figure out how to switch it on the tune bot and it drives me crazy haha

@Dr.Sharahy Ай бұрын

It's a half turn on the drum key. Not a full turn.

@EliGreenDrums Ай бұрын

I could so do a video on this exact topic, I’m sure there’s a huge divide in drummers as to full vs half turn terminology haha. I say full turn because it’s a full turn of my hand before having to alter my grip.

@UtwoBed Ай бұрын

@@EliGreenDrums But then you turn around and do quarter turns that really are quarter turns. To be consistent those would be half turns.😁

@metal4ever0609 19 күн бұрын

My Tune Bot won’t read anything higher than 225

@justingonzalez2022 15 күн бұрын

I noticed when I mute the side that I’m not tuning, it helps a lot :) also there’s a high tuning setting on it too

@BeatsAndMeats 2 ай бұрын

Use a mallet and hold the Tunebot with your hand... makes it a lot more accurate than clipping it to the rim.

@EliGreenDrums 2 ай бұрын

I do that when I tune bass drums a lot of the time. I like to be able to mute the head when I tune though, so I find clipping and freeing up the hand works better for me.

@BeatsAndMeats 2 ай бұрын

@@EliGreenDrums Well obviously it’s working for you so don’t change anything haha! But when I teach people how to use it, I’ve noticed that holding it forces them to really concentrate on how hard they hit the head, and when the Tunebot gives a weird reading, they very quickly start to HEAR that something went wrong, and they try again.. it’s pretty cool!… Now I have NEVER been able to get the Tunebot to work reliably on a kick drum. Whats the secret?