As a screenwriter myself, Kojima's writing skills have always amazed me. He managed to connect every MGS in 28 years; but nonlinear. Screenplays and storyboards always have structures. I truly want to hear Kojima's way of writing because he managed to overcome barriers that some of the greatest film and theater screenwriters and novelists have not yet touched. And we are talking about videogames. This is a work of art.

I remember my mom saying: "I think Big Boss is alive, that's why nobody is telling the truth to Snake". She knew...

Even today, the writing of MGS1 still a masterpiece

THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE!

Considering his appearance in the MGS1 handbook is pretty much identical to his MGS4 appearance I’m sure Kojima always had some sort of ultimate plan for his character.. maybe.

Who would have thought the biggest plot twist was in mgs1 all along

Man I want to see a game set in the MG1/MG2 era. Especially Zanzibar intrigues me. Imagine a reworked version of "Zanzibar Breeze" :D

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Dont forget that Solidus was the president at the time of Shadow Moses incident. Liquid was demanding to him the remains of Big Boss and that money. But Solid was sent to do the dirty work. Liquid had the best genes, Solid had the worst and Solidus was (in theory better than both) After Natasha Romanenko went public, things couldnt happen as before. Ocelot knew Big Boss was alive, but couldnt reach him, since he was designed the mission of training Liquid and helping him out; while Miller trained Solid. Im pretty sure Ocelot convinced Liquid to pressure Solidus with Rex, maybe Zero was training Solidus and the 3 were struggling for the control of the philosophers legacy, but Eva had some control of it too. Eva gave her life for the Solidus remains, believing it was Big Boss. Im pretty much sure few people knew the whereabouts of Big Boss, Zero was tracking him, but couldnt find, even with all the Patriots' AIs. After Liquid failed, Ocelot took his role in a bigger scheme of defeating Zero and his Solidus. But against the odds, Solid, without Miller, managed to disrupt it all.

There was always that underlying feeling for me that Big Boss wasn’t dead and he was somewhere but we didn’t know where or how he was still alive. We didn’t know much about him during the pre-MGS2 and 4 days and he seemed to important to just be a rogue soldier that turned bad. Love MGS so much!!

The legacy of Metal Gear Solid will never die

This made realize Ocelot let Grey Fox chop off his hand as part of the plan, man’s dedication to Big Boss is outstanding

I said it once and I'll say it again mgs4 tied the games into one perfectly. The whole story finally gets told from beginning to end and it was brilliant. Good catch though iv lived and breathed metal gear since I was 4 years old and I never caught that one

The ending of MGS4 is so powerful.

The only problem with all this is, When they made MGS1, They didn't know it would be so successful that there would be demand for sequels so they didn't actually write the plot this far in advanced. The little details in MGS4 are carefully rooted from MGS1's 10 year old plot. This is why Kojima brings Liquid back in MGS2, He didn't expect the character to be so popular after killing him off so he had to write him into the plot of MGS2 somehow.

So glad I found this channel. Finding out so much stuff about a story I thought I already knew everything about.

"Eva, Ocelot, Gray Fox & Naomi all fought for Big Boss's freedom until their very end. After 15 long years... "Paradise Lost" won the war against The Patriots. Big Boss was free... ... to make peace with his son, pay respect to his mother & mentor for the last time, and finally, to die as his own man."

I was there when you theorized about the body double and I laughed like everyone else. I had no idea you also predicted Big Boss being alive and making an appearance in MGS4 XD that's crazy

I can't believe the MGS saga is over. my favorite frachise

He was definitely teasing that Big Boss was still alive, but I wonder if the original plan was for another fight before he decided on the peaceful confrontation?

Long live Paradise Lost ! lol crazy how we are still uncovering this series after so long... i'm not surprised anymore but it begs the question : what are we still missing ? awesome video as always PythonSelkan !

Keep up the great work. I was about 12 when I played Mgs1, my favorite game to this day.

Another big clue. If i recall correctly when my parents first got the game Big Boss was mentioned as a character in the pamphlet. If this is 100% correct: Kojima had mindfucks in the making over 22 years ago.

I don't think Kojima had planned that far. He had already decided to leave Metal Gear twice. After MGS2 and after MGS3.

If Liquid was enemies with The Patriots, was HE the one Paradise Lost expected to win the battle vs Solid? 🤔 Did NO ONE pick David over Eli??? Actually... seems maybe Solidus DID. Solid was the tool of the Patriots in MG2, MGS, and MGS4. I actually feel like maybe Solidus was initially intended to BE Big Boss. His connection Raiden could've been showing us how Big Boss groomed Gray Fox. The case for Solidus' existence seemed pretty weak to me.

God damn that ending smooth

I think it's a stretch to say that Kojima was directly "hinting" at Big Boss being alive in MGS1. More likely, the time came in MGS4 to reveal once and for all what happened to him, and he saw an opening in the plot and jumped at the opportunity. Basically, Kojima went, "Well, we never said he WASN'T still alive!" Like any good writer, you make it seem as though you had everything planned out from the start, even if you didn't.

This whole game should be as heavy as a series show like Game of Thrones... Way too much content and so much to uncover...

I'd like to believe everything was set up from the beginning, but knowing kojima, it's more likelly he "reverse engieneered" every detail from the previous games so that everything fit so perfectly

all that trouble to free BB and for him to die like 30 mins. later to Foxdie lol

This is so excellent. I love this series so much.

I remember the skinny BB was already featured in the chara drawings back in 2006.

Those 1st 2 Metal gear games need to be remade more than MGS in my opinion.

I wish Konami would take their head out their butt and do MGS right. Just remake MGS 1, 3, Peacewalker, MG 1, and MG 2 solid snake with the fox engine and open world. Its an easy sale with almost guaranteed success, with assets you already own.

Outer Heaven and Zanzibar destroyed. New group called Paradise Lost. Big Boss fakes his own death to destroy Cipher.

I didn't know that. I still want MGS4 in 60 Frames PerSeconds. And officially on PC... Along with MGS3 and probably Peace Walker?

Python, just wanna say I thoroughly enjoy your videos. It amazes me to watch the level of detail that goes into each game. That being said, the one thing i've learned from watching your videos is that Kojima puts a lot of attention to his game, and intentionally puts things in for others to overlook as little details that end up being another piece to the big puzzle. I've been going over the cutscenes and dialogue of each game, currently looking at MGS and MGS:TS. At first I wanted to say that the dialogue being different in some places, like Baker calling "Bribes" as "Good business practices" in MGS and something about the "Militiary Industrial Complex" in TS, as subtle hints of this, but I found out that Jeremy Blaustein had some issue with Kojima about how the script turned out. But then I started thinking about the cutscenes and how over the top they were compare to the original. Yes, it could be said that was just a byproduct of having better tech to make cutscenes, but I have another thought: MGS was what really happened, TS is how people believed it to happen. Between MGS and MGS2, Nastasha put out her book "In the Darkness of Shadow Moses" and readers imaginations started to run wild. Certain cutscenes made me think of this. The way snake fights the tank, the jumping off the rocket to shoot down the Hind, but it's Gray Fox that really makes me look at it. For one, just before the rescue of Otacon, Gray Fox killed all those soldiers. In one room, he was covered in blood, but is clean when he fights Snake. In the same room, he cuts a soldier in half, but the pieces are gone when the screen transitions. Lastly, after the fight, he freaks out and proceeds to destroy most, if not all, of the equipment in the room. Yet in MGS4, all you can see are some impacts and bullet holes along the walls, and Snake and Otacon even use the equipment to scan the security cameras. If TS is really how Kojima wanted to portray Snake's mission, shouldn't he have kept that particular detail in mind? In short, MGS is gritty reality, and MGS:TS is truth mixed with fiction from the minds of readers of Nastasha's book. I'm hoping to see some discussion in this thread. Twin Snakes is an underrated game IMO and doesn't get enough love. Keep up the good work!

No way. When MGS came out, even Kojima had no idea Big Boss was still alive.

Imagine that being the main characters name through the MGS series, "PYTHON SELKAAAAAAAN"

We wanted New MGS , so simple!

Any estimated date until your MGS5 Ultimate Analysis will be released?

@PythonSelkanHD This video was beautiful PythonSelkan! Thank you this crucial piece of the puzzle for all eternity! Kind regards.

Foxdie alone was warning about social distancing. Kojima...21st century prophet

Love this type of videos! Keep it up Big Boss! 🔥

Awesome guys, spot on, as always! Amazing attention to detail! Nothing escapes you :)

2:00 I finally realised that ocelot was the one to get the Ninja into shadow Moses he's the spy omg I never took heed of it till now

While I imagine it wasn't necessarily planned from the very start, at least in the way it ultimately played out in MGS4, it is certainly clear that Kojima was toying with the idea of the deceased not staying dead as early as MGS1 with all the talks about Big Boss' cells and Gray Fox being brought back from death. Regardless of whether it was some carefully laid setup or just a stroke of good luck with the writing leaving plenty of wiggle room, it was certainly one of the better twists Kojima had made compared to others, since there was a lot more to it than just "Nanomachines, son!"

i always wondered what made paramedic from the happy go lucky medic in mgs3 to dr mengele because it couldn't just be because zero asked/threatended her

This is actually big. Some R+L = J level of big. Well done, I'm sad I missed it before mgs4

I remember how i was on the "hate on nanomachines" bandwagon when mgs4 was out and i was a teenager, but man when i replayed all 7 main mgs games (yes i still count MPO as canon) not long ago alongside real life actuality, the story us just incredibly massive, and i just can't believe Kojima was so ahead of its time, i fear to say, even ahead of itself. Man i love this game series so much!

Three things ill never forgive Metal gear for: 1- Meryl story conclusion (She doesn't need a man to be happy, she was a kickass soldier). 2- The Vamp & Naomi story (such wasted potential for Vamp after his enigmatic and cool introduction in sons of liberty). 3- The fact that Quadrilogy doesn't have an HD/4K re-release on PC or PS4/5 (I know its Konami fault, fuck you Konami). One would think the greatest game series of all time deserves such treatment but instead it was shelved like any normal forgotten game.

now im trying to fit Venom Snake and Big Boss on this timeline

Naomi said that the Genome Army can't go public and that was also true. Even Baker said that his company is finished if the Rex project goes public. The DARPA Chiefs death was a bigger deal that we originally believe. The fact that MGS 2 and 4 explain this points makes MGS so much better than before.

And then MGS V came and kicked our teeth in for no reason, offering a perspective on the whole situation that the franchise never needed or offered any useful details.

Masterful work, sir! Literally got goosebumps at the end.

Great job making this video. It really deserves way more than just 32k views. You deserve a lot man, maybe a brief vocal explaination would've been better than wall of text, but it's your choice after all, still enjoyed it the most. Thank you for unlocking some memories in my brain... Might gonna play soon again the MGS saga.

" Hmmm..... You're pretty good."

You guys NEVER disappoint, love it, well done

Por eso se ocupa un MGS6 hecho por Kojima que empiece con la misión 51 de MGS5 y acabe en el inicio de la "Operación Intrude N313". That is why we need a MGS 6 made by Kojima starting with the mission 51 from MGS5 and ending at the beginning of "Operation Intrude N313".

the way i see it is that Big boss never really died in the hands of Solid snake to begin with. that was Venom Snake from MGSV. i could be wrong as i never finished MGSV, so i am not sure if they ever revealed something which mentioned something that could prove me right or wrong.

I’m always happy to see a new upload, keep up the cool, great, work.😁👍

The game's been over for years and people are still talking about it dam

Even today new things are discovered from mgs , such a cool game

I hate how Venom Snake is not even alluded to.

MGS1 already established that you can remake a corpse just from one strand of DNA. MGS4 said that you can remake a corpse, but you can also reanimate it too.

Love that music @ the end...always have. Brings back good memories.

If they can bring Big Boss and Grey Fox back to life, why wouldn't some government officials bring Solid Snake back too...

they played us like a damn fiddle

I love the story of metal gear namely the story between ocelot and Big Boss I think inside all of us we wish we had someone like that

Who is hoping for MGS6? Bigger and better than MGS5, that ties everything together and answers all of the questions.

This is so beautifully crafted

When you remember that Jaeger translates to "Hunter" in English gives you a hint on who Naomi really is.

Let's just have this uploader continue the msg story on behalf of Kojima his videos on phantom pain theories before that game came out were better then what we got

at 1:18 that sound effect foreshadows the Peace Walker incident, you know that 'Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker AI Pod song' sort of foreshadows how AI's are in control

I have do admit: Ocelot was a complete and utterly genius. He had EVERYONE fooled, for the sake of reviving his best friend, Big Boss, by destroying the Patriots in the only way he thought of..

I was always curious as to why Big Boss was featured in the book for the game on PS1, being the only character we dont see or talk to in the story.

next one: Augustine Eguabon AKA The Medic AKA Venom Snake!

I want a remake of the MSX Metal Gear with MGS V gameplay and graphics with a remake MGS as an Expansion

Then why Gray Fox chopped off Ocelot's hand if they were working for the same purpose?!

Kojima dropping seeds all over

If Big Boss was alive during the event of MGS1 and MGS2 they could easily have tapes of Big Boss talking about the Shadow Moses incident and Big Shell incident after you completed the remake and remastered version there's

This is awesome. Thank you ! Long life to this saga

If ocelot and Naomi including gray fox were all working together why did gray fox sliced oclets hand off? If they were working together.. makes no sense or did he do it to save snakes life?

This wasnt that surprising because Big Boss in MG1 and MG2 did "died" a couple times. Then MGSV came around and actually made you think that the true big boss was only in MG2 all along. From Kojimas point of view this was his way of saying that his true creative work on the series started in MG2. And since MGS4 was supposed to be his final game in the series the true Big Boss dying in the end was definitely the proper way to end it all.

Had no idea a Paradise Lost reference was in MGS1. ⭐️🌈. The more you know. Colonels knowledge of Big Boss always seemed fishy. I really want more Grey Fox detail though. The man is such an enigma but still so very important.

It's interesting because Kojima clearly fell in love with Big Boss as the series progressed, even though the most recent canon material up to that point had him be "dead," or more like permanently sidelined. Hence why about half the series is about the character, despite how he was a colossal piece of shit to the world. That's something that never sat right with me. The series pays lip service to the idea that Big Boss was terrorist, but never had the balls to show him doing anything villainous. It's only ever alluded to as what he did in-between games, and the focus was always on how he did it for the sake of the men of his psudo-nation. It would have been really narratively satisfying to see Big Boss finally making what are clearly evil decisions in MGS5, but Kojima chickened out by making that game not even about Big Boss, and not even including the villainy. Metal Gear will always be special to me, but the later half of the series is a complete mess that worsens the stories that came before as it got more and more contrived to tie them all together.

Damn. Kojima must have a writing mind set similar to Eiichiro Oda.

This channel has tought me things about the story that i never noticed bsck then, i did have my theory of Big Boss being alive but Kojima brilliantly held us at bay until MGS 4. I love this franchise. Imo, the greatest storytelling in video games history.

Why would Gray Fox cut Ocelots hand off if they we're on the same side?

That was so well done 👍

This is good, isn’t it?

2:51 Omg soundtrack was so good.. I forgot how classical yet gothic it was.. Until we meet again..John..

The fake death pill gave it all away

I said it once and i’ll say it again, Ocelot was the real hero of the story. Don’t get me wrong I give credit to Eva and the others, but the one guy who tripled-crossed the world was Ocelot, all just to save Big Boss

Unbelievable. Thank you for making this

Big Boss is the main protagonist, not Solid Snake. So, it may have been aleays Kojima's idea for the man to be alive in order to appear on the last game (MGS4).

Great insight! Didn't know this.

i love your videos man keep up the good work ♥

I WANT MOAR !!! the video is soooo sooo good. i could of watched this for hours

I hate to be THAT guy, but I respectfully submit to you, that although some ambiguity is employed at some point or another, most of these links are circumstantial because of how much MGS4 retcons. MGS4 was not supposed to happen by the time that MGS1 & 2 were written, hell MGS2 downright stops making sense on its own when you take 4 into account, because of retcons. This video is very VERY well done, no doubt, but the points I've made are known. And this is why I feel that some people end up thinking that Kojima is pretentious, some people give him waaaay too much credit, and don't get me wrong, MGS1 & 2 are two of the most amazing games one can play in their lives, they're so well written and have very clear messages, MGS2 turned out to be almost prophetic about some of the social issues we as a species face today, so I know how good Kojima can be, but MGS4, PW and 5 are just him trying to make the most out of a bad situation, TPP is especially autobiographical. Sorry for the wall of text. Hope someone reads this but still enjoys the video, props to the creator.