How The Microphone Changed The Way We Sing - Cheddar Explains

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Cheddar

Cheddar

5 жыл бұрын

Ever wonder why some old songs sound outdated and others sound like timeless classics? Cheddar explains how the invention of the microphone changed the way vocalists sang love songs.
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@Lemonminer
@Lemonminer 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, this isn’t vox?
@fungifactory8925
@fungifactory8925 5 жыл бұрын
you can tell because it's missing the political garbage
@dave2.077
@dave2.077 5 жыл бұрын
yeah its actually good
@EllieMcEla
@EllieMcEla 5 жыл бұрын
this is equally as bad haha
@diegoacosta8550
@diegoacosta8550 5 жыл бұрын
inb4 this is found out to be connected to vox
@chukwudiilozue9171
@chukwudiilozue9171 5 жыл бұрын
I know, right, there's pink instead of yellow so that's a tell. Vox seems to be affiliated to this.
@arleas
@arleas 5 жыл бұрын
So Sinatra might have moved away from the mic to breathe in?
@josgeerink1254
@josgeerink1254 5 жыл бұрын
Chocolate rain
@jmoss1980yo
@jmoss1980yo 5 жыл бұрын
@@josgeerink1254 Came here to say this, you beat me to it. Tay Zonday , the greatest singer of our generation.
@VOYAGEUR-YT
@VOYAGEUR-YT 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone made fun of him for that but Tay Zonday is our generations Frank Sinatra
@Honre123
@Honre123 5 жыл бұрын
@@josgeerink1254 Some stay dry and others feel the pain.
@Ebani
@Ebani 5 жыл бұрын
@@VOYAGEUR-YT No need to describe the joke.
@StarrySidekick
@StarrySidekick 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my god the way your editors made the notes wiggle and the slurs move to the music is genius.
@cevest_blirobo7308
@cevest_blirobo7308 4 жыл бұрын
Saved y’all (667th like)
@carlosmntr
@carlosmntr 4 жыл бұрын
I loved it too!
@Swenthorian
@Swenthorian 4 жыл бұрын
4:00, for those wondering what OP is referring to.
@picturesqueponies
@picturesqueponies 3 жыл бұрын
Miles Huff I love you
@picturesqueponies
@picturesqueponies 3 жыл бұрын
Miles Huff we need more of you
@JoshTurnerGuitar
@JoshTurnerGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent and very engaging video. A few notes, for what it’s worth: Early, pre-microphone recordings were done on wax cylinders, which predated the disk shaped record. On Frank’s mic technique: part of what made it so great was his use of proximity and axis not only for the control of *sibilance* and plosives, but also minute control of volume, allowing him to bellow one phrase and whisper the next with equal intelligibility. He also used proximity effect to his advantage, the tendency of microphones to build up low frequencies when a sound source is closer, which gave his voice a warmer quality in those whisper like passages. AND, finally, it might be worth mentioning the next huge leap forward in technology - the Neumann U47 condenser mic with which frank is pictured many times here. It is vastly more sensitive and has a wider frequency response then all of its ribbon contemporaries, and would have allowed him to tailor his performances that much more. (Although, as a side note, “Always” would still have been recorded on a ribbon). Hope this is interesting/helpful!
@singlesideman
@singlesideman 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, no, not all pre microphone recordings, called mechanical recordings, were made on wax cylinders, and Emile Berliner received his first patent for a disc recording in 1887, roughly contemporaneous with cylinder recordings, and his American Grammophone Company eventually took off by 1900. These discs were then made of hard rubber, a few celluloid ones were made, then a shellac formulation. By 1909 cylinders were moribund, and mechanical recordings continued to be made through the late 1920's, although the first electrical recordings were made in about 1926, if memory serves. By 1928 the major record labels had switched to electrical recordings, although some smaller labels were still making mechanical recordings.
@JoshTurnerGuitar
@JoshTurnerGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
@@singlesideman Huh! Well I appreciate that - I didn't know there was so much more to the story. Thanks!
@singlesideman
@singlesideman 5 жыл бұрын
@@JoshTurnerGuitar you're very welcome! :)
@JohannesWiberg
@JohannesWiberg 5 жыл бұрын
A civil and informative discussion in a KZfaq comment section. Always a pleasant surprise.
@AutoFirePad
@AutoFirePad 5 жыл бұрын
*than
@hannuback
@hannuback 5 жыл бұрын
Sadly microphones have also made many singers very dependent on the mic. Some singers don't seem to be able to produce much sound acoustically and their singing technique suffers from being too used to singing to a mic. Yet some classical singers lack the skill to use a mic. It takes some practice too.
@Izzy-ec4qq
@Izzy-ec4qq 5 жыл бұрын
Oh yes it does, I Hate singing with a mic, it pics up all these wierd noises you dont hear when you sing without it and it's wierd to hear your own voice too
@derogatony
@derogatony 5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, so true. Singing on stage versus in a studio is very different and quite the adjustment.
@prescott231233
@prescott231233 5 жыл бұрын
Hannu Back i was classically trained and i can’t use a mic for dick. My higher registers don’t sound right unless I’m belting them, which isn’t exactly great for recording if you’re trying to do a one take cover of a song that’s in between my chest; throat and head voice. It’s like a nice quiet low section or verse then the Chorus kicks in a half to an octave higher than the verse, i either have to lose power and volume and switch into my falsetto, or gain a lot of power and volume, and peak the hell out of the microphone, and if you’re recording a loud section, it’s not convenient to have to “step away from the mic” to save your equipment and the ears of your audience. It takes a lot of practice, in a lot of ways a microphone is an instrument as much as the voice is and other instruments. It’s like playing a woodwind, and a brass. But only with your diaphragm and vocal chords instead of your lungs and lips?
@TV---kn2rl
@TV---kn2rl 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I didn't know there was that big of an adjustment live vs. on mic. Reminds me of the adjustments made to digital art to get it to look good printed out.
@Magnulus76
@Magnulus76 5 жыл бұрын
The classical singing style has less intelligibility, it's so focused on projection.
@corbinholder6715
@corbinholder6715 4 жыл бұрын
*Moves away from mic to breathe in* Chocolate rain guy has entered chat
@IamINERT
@IamINERT 4 жыл бұрын
Chocolate rain 😐
@LEFT4BASS
@LEFT4BASS 4 жыл бұрын
This might explain, at least in part, why tenors rule the singing world now. Their range was what best fit the microphone.
@bacicinvatteneaca
@bacicinvatteneaca 4 жыл бұрын
Nah. 1. Surfaces and objects have a frequency of resonance, and the human ear has its peak in the alto-soprano register 2. Due to the polyphonic approach, people tend to have roles specialised to their register which results in the lower register of either sex being forced to sing slightly too low for their own abilities, while the top register has to sing too high, and singing too high generally leads to more volume while singing too low leads to less volume. 3. Today's music is very focused on making the vocals hearable above anything else in the pop production's wall of sound
@miloheidkamp1425
@miloheidkamp1425 5 жыл бұрын
Why does the cheddar logo have a piece of Swiss cheese?
@LC__15
@LC__15 5 жыл бұрын
Agree haha. Not sure what icon would represent the word _Cheddar_ though...
@bri1085
@bri1085 5 жыл бұрын
Swiss cheese is aesthetical more pleasing
@itrthho
@itrthho 5 жыл бұрын
for trademark purposes.
@EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo
@EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo 5 жыл бұрын
@@LC__15 a orange square is cheddar
@bulman07
@bulman07 5 жыл бұрын
@@EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo Maybe look up what real cheddar is 😉
@tintin3
@tintin3 5 жыл бұрын
This video was edited masterfully.
@andylindsaytunes
@andylindsaytunes 4 жыл бұрын
The audio is off, tho: narration is too quiet compared with the music examples.
@darkvioletskull
@darkvioletskull Жыл бұрын
always that one person.
@hunnerdayEDT
@hunnerdayEDT 5 жыл бұрын
Sinatra's voice is like velvet. 😍
@ReaperCheGuevara
@ReaperCheGuevara 5 жыл бұрын
I always thought his voice sounded like a dumpster rolling down a flight of stairs.
@hunnerdayEDT
@hunnerdayEDT 5 жыл бұрын
@@ReaperCheGuevara Wow 😲😧
@ReaperCheGuevara
@ReaperCheGuevara 5 жыл бұрын
@@hunnerdayEDT it's like the equivalent Lil Pump and Ed Sheeran except that was years before. It's popular a lot of people love it but I wouldn't call it good music.
@victorroque5667
@victorroque5667 5 жыл бұрын
@@ReaperCheGuevara Why?
@Wice02
@Wice02 5 жыл бұрын
Right! One of the best singers ever!
@zacharyking6171
@zacharyking6171 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like he just named every single artist featured in the Fallout seriers
@mefirstplease3676
@mefirstplease3676 5 жыл бұрын
I suck on big nigerian dick, but Rudy Vallee isn’t in any fallout games
@MrStronglime
@MrStronglime 5 жыл бұрын
that's a great name, M8
@SariennMusic73
@SariennMusic73 5 жыл бұрын
Cuz fallout is awesome and this music is awesome.
@jonjaquez
@jonjaquez 5 жыл бұрын
I also play the piano in my spare time.
@Querymonger
@Querymonger 4 жыл бұрын
Zachary King no ink spots
@chrisparkes2179
@chrisparkes2179 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing singers singing down the horn reminds me of a story about the English operatic soprano Eva Turner. As shown in the video, opera singers would stand in front of the recording horn with the orchestra behind them. This gave the balance between singer and musicians. Eva Turner was a tiny woman, not at all the stereotype of a huge soprano. When they recorded her, all that could be heard on the resulting playback was her voice. The full sized orchestra was completely overwhelmed by the power of her voice. The same happened when she was standing in the middle of the orchestra. Eventually she had to stand right at the back. I've heard recordings of hers and her voice was amazing.
@jimdrake3436
@jimdrake3436 Жыл бұрын
Just FYI, Vallee’s name is pronounced “valley” despite the accent in his family’s surname. A comparison of his earliest Victor recordings, which were made with a double-button carbon microphone, with his mid-1930s Columbia “radio recordings,” shows the progression of microphone technology. In a long interview I did with him, he underscored that his voice barely changed between 1928-1934 but rather that the microphones got better. When he remade his early hits for an RCA Victor “Musical Smart Set” album P-111 in the mid-1940s, the ongoing improvements in microphones and recording technology were evident. He did make one acoustical recording as lead saxophonist and a singer in a vocal trio for the Yale Collegians in 1927 but was not named on the label.
@1neohm
@1neohm 5 жыл бұрын
the thumbnail is more proof that reviewbrah is a time traveler
@thatoneguy444
@thatoneguy444 5 жыл бұрын
Haha true... Wait, what?
@Drockninja75
@Drockninja75 5 жыл бұрын
That's why I'm watching this
@theclassicalpanda4020
@theclassicalpanda4020 5 жыл бұрын
I cant unsee this now
@gsilva220
@gsilva220 5 жыл бұрын
He's not a time traveler. He's been rejuvenated.
@theclassicalpanda4020
@theclassicalpanda4020 5 жыл бұрын
@@gsilva220 Maybe he can travel through 5 diffirent dimensions
@xchemicalXladybugx
@xchemicalXladybugx 5 жыл бұрын
The mics and singing methods from the 40's-70's are the best in my opinion. Classic country from that time just sounds so clear, even when the mic is away from the singing they project so effortlessly, even when doing a whispery song. It's unreal how perfect they sound, not even like they are in the room, just other worldly
@stevedoe1630
@stevedoe1630 5 жыл бұрын
Maddy ¿Maybe too much reliance on synthesizer / digital manipulation starting around 1980’s?
@xchemicalXladybugx
@xchemicalXladybugx 5 жыл бұрын
Steve Doe maybe when it comes to volume and fullness. When a good singer sings it sound full, today singers use several takes with one main and at least two backing at lower volumes to mimic that. Ozzy Osbourne used backing tracks in Crazy Train cause he was to old to sing like he used to
@julietcunningham852
@julietcunningham852 4 жыл бұрын
In the pre-electric acoustical days, the most famous singer was Enrico Caruso, who had the range of a tenor and the sound of a baritone. The perfect sound for pre-1922 technology.
@XinGraves13
@XinGraves13 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of those bits of information you didn't know you wanted until you got it, and now you're glad you have it.
@IgnasV
@IgnasV 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you KZfaq Recommendations. Very Cool
@Bioniking
@Bioniking 4 жыл бұрын
About time I got something cool and informative instead of “Billy chugs pistachios through his nose”
@mccama19
@mccama19 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, love this video. So interesting. Now I remember why 1920's crooners were my favorite music when I was in middle school. So soulful and sweet!
@JimJWalker
@JimJWalker 5 жыл бұрын
All singers must learn to "work the mic". Thank you for reminding us. My favorite crooner is Brendan Perry from "Dead Can Dance".
@Willy_Tepes
@Willy_Tepes 5 жыл бұрын
Vibrato is a beautiful technique that is sadly very rare today. It allows you to carry a note between words and removes the need for a instrumental backing even if the song is sung extremely slow.
@badATchaos
@badATchaos 5 жыл бұрын
I like how the narrator insists on pronouncing Vallée with a French inflection. Rudy himself pronounced it Valley.
@jamesewanchook2276
@jamesewanchook2276 2 жыл бұрын
the kid narrator should know better.
@lilyrooney
@lilyrooney 5 жыл бұрын
dare you to do one on how technology changed restaurants. I bet its much easier to maintain something commercially viable nowadays
@Bannanasammich
@Bannanasammich 5 жыл бұрын
@Wish Master double dog dare?
@em1osmurf
@em1osmurf 5 жыл бұрын
seen a burrito? and an enchilada? now look at Taco Bell's "encherito"! used to be about a foot long and 3 inches wide, coated in red sauce. Technology!!
@EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo
@EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo 5 жыл бұрын
How we use Hobarts
@buddyclem7328
@buddyclem7328 5 жыл бұрын
What technology? Technology might aid fast food restaurants, but there aren't many newer kitchen gadgets in a full service restaurant that the chefs couldn't live without.
@reginabillotti
@reginabillotti 4 жыл бұрын
@@buddyclem7328 what technology? Modern ovens, electric mixers and other tools, running water, just to name a couple examples. If you want to realize how much modern cooking relies on fairly recent technology, go watch the Townsends channel (or any number of survivalist vloggers) for contrast with pre-20th century cooking techniques.
@Natalia-no9yj
@Natalia-no9yj 4 жыл бұрын
this was the first time i heard frank sinatra sing "always" and - wow - like, an instant favourite. listening to it feels like falling in love. it's magical bro
@mefirstplease3676
@mefirstplease3676 5 жыл бұрын
“Just One More Chance”, “You’re Getting to be a Habit with Me”, “Out of Nowhere”, and “Please” all by Crosby are terrific songs and examples
@trevoreklof1088
@trevoreklof1088 2 жыл бұрын
Man Crosby is just the best
@NYGJMAP
@NYGJMAP 5 жыл бұрын
I'll never forget my dad listening to White Christmas while I played Pokemon Blue on the floor by the tree. Shit man.
@archenema6792
@archenema6792 5 жыл бұрын
The entire Bing album from the movie "Going Hollywood", especially the songs "Beautiful Girl" and "Temptation", will forever stand head and shoulders above the rest.
@FlymanMS
@FlymanMS 5 жыл бұрын
Vox Almanach quality. Thank you.
@EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo
@EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo 5 жыл бұрын
This ain't vox? Subbed anyways
@GABE_is_here
@GABE_is_here 5 жыл бұрын
you mean the earworm series
@rodimusmaximus3912
@rodimusmaximus3912 5 жыл бұрын
Cheddar is Vox minus the need to push liberal ideals into every video.
@JoschuaSchmidt
@JoschuaSchmidt 5 жыл бұрын
That is exactly that kind of informative videos that you only find on youtube. You wouldn´t get that information explained that precisely, visualized that beautifully on any other website.
@kjellhl1975
@kjellhl1975 5 жыл бұрын
You should have included samples of singing from the earliest one so we would hear those things you are mentioning what made it so difficult without the microphone.
@therealEmpyre
@therealEmpyre 5 жыл бұрын
I remember watching re-runs of The Lucy Show (or Here's Lucy, whichever was from the 60s), and Rudy Valee appeared in an episode as himself. Lucille Ball pronounced his last name with the first syllable emphasized, so it sounded like valley.
@mohammadaladham7721
@mohammadaladham7721 5 жыл бұрын
my favourite romantic song is mo bamba
@fajaradi1223
@fajaradi1223 5 жыл бұрын
No despacito?
@davidlogansr8007
@davidlogansr8007 5 жыл бұрын
Rudee Val lee. Is how it's pronounced and among my favorites. He was also quite funny!
@JustinY.
@JustinY. 5 жыл бұрын
No wonder why so no chi no sadame sounds so loud
@Omar-em7rl
@Omar-em7rl 5 жыл бұрын
there you are, another really active day coming up again? you were commenting like crazy yesterday, quite impressive...
@raifikarj6698
@raifikarj6698 5 жыл бұрын
Ah Culture Of Jojo
@Wewwers
@Wewwers 5 жыл бұрын
fuck off, dumb e-celeb
@milanthakkar9493
@milanthakkar9493 5 жыл бұрын
@@Beebo buddy you'll soon come to find that encountering the "legendary" justin y is not quite a feat at all, the greater feat is not finding him
@dracomight
@dracomight 5 жыл бұрын
Justin no matter how many times I see you or how much people hate you. I'll still like you.
@simoneberl2882
@simoneberl2882 5 жыл бұрын
Your editing is truly amazing! You are adding so many details, it's just great! Thumbs up :)
@davidfrischknecht8261
@davidfrischknecht8261 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite crooner is and will always be the one and only Bing Crosby. I really like his song "Moonlight Becomes You".
@qmillomadeit
@qmillomadeit 5 жыл бұрын
Love when cheddar does series on music
@ReaperCheGuevara
@ReaperCheGuevara 5 жыл бұрын
Those old microphones reminds me of hello my darling hello my sweetheart hello my ragtime gal.
@richsackett3423
@richsackett3423 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know why. They aren't from the same era.
@AvitalShtap
@AvitalShtap 5 жыл бұрын
SAME LOL during that one song the melody almost sounded the same, I had to pause it and sing Ragteime Gal to myself before hitting play again 😂😂😂
@idiotsandwich115
@idiotsandwich115 5 жыл бұрын
So true 😂
@lifeontheledgerlines8394
@lifeontheledgerlines8394 5 жыл бұрын
Song Title - Hello My Baby Hello my baby, hello my darling, hello my ragtime, summertime gal. Send me a kiss by wire (by wire), baby, my heart's on fire (AH!). If you refuse me, then you will lose me, then you'll be left alone, oh baby telephone, and tell me that you're mine (all mine)! That's the refrain/chorus.
@ashleysmith8402
@ashleysmith8402 4 жыл бұрын
You mean the sing loonytoon frog.
@shadowraith1
@shadowraith1 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the history of the microphone ,and the singers who learned to use it.👍
@LanceCampeau
@LanceCampeau 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I've seen on this channel to date... very well done and interesting.
@lewiscullen8236
@lewiscullen8236 5 жыл бұрын
Another interesting stylistic difference between the two clips is the lack of a portamento (slide) on always. You'll find exactly the same stylistic change in classical vocal music of the time. Some time in the 1940s everyone just decided that sliding was really tasteless.
@AtlantaTerry
@AtlantaTerry 5 жыл бұрын
I sing second bass in a church choir. Our choirmaster is always yelling at us "No SLIDING!" LOL!
@Ignasimp
@Ignasimp 5 жыл бұрын
@@AtlantaTerry in choirs is very important no to slide because it's a much more difficult thing to coordinate between all the voices.
@Calvini2013
@Calvini2013 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds so smooth and buttery though
@phosphorus4
@phosphorus4 5 жыл бұрын
But not if you do it tastefully.
@bnic9471
@bnic9471 4 жыл бұрын
Probably Frank himself decided that. His phrasing set a new standard from the 40s onward.
@OZZOZZ
@OZZOZZ 5 жыл бұрын
I love the content, its like vox but better. Way better.
@silvar1
@silvar1 5 жыл бұрын
Gold Clouds you should check out Nerdwriter1 - this is basically a clone on his content.
@manuelcunharocha8889
@manuelcunharocha8889 5 жыл бұрын
This is very good, but Vox ia still better
@Udontkno7
@Udontkno7 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer Vox, but to each our own.
@PlanetGamingOfficial
@PlanetGamingOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
Manuel Cunha Rocha box is trashy
@GABE_is_here
@GABE_is_here 5 жыл бұрын
@letter h true, but not everything they covered is political. the Earworm series by them is great. it only touches on music.
@kiamalkin4153
@kiamalkin4153 5 жыл бұрын
My grandma loves that song and my Dad sang it to me when I was little too...Always...love them both
@keikei3301
@keikei3301 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this piece. I enjoyed it and appreciate what you did w this
@MostlyPennyCat
@MostlyPennyCat 5 жыл бұрын
Ha! After hearing the two recordings I guessed that the difference is Sinatra was singing *to* the microphone as opposed to the other guy who was merely singing near the microphone. Nailed it! 8D
@HughMiller98
@HughMiller98 5 жыл бұрын
For all the people commenting about the pronunciation of Rudy Vallée's surname, we get it. It's pronounced Valley. But it's an easy mistake to make, since the pronouncing it as 'valet' follows rules of French pronunciation - é is pronounced as 'ay'. After doing some research myself, Vallée grew up in Vermont, so most likely had people mispronounce his surname all the time. He probably got sick of correcting people and gave up, instead adopting the current pronunciation to make it easier for people.
@billvegas8146
@billvegas8146 5 жыл бұрын
If you're an amateur blogger then sure. BUT If you want to be a professional (I'm assuming that's cheddar's goal) then one must check pronunciations especially for names and places before one records for posterity. The fact that Rudy Vallée was one of the most popular entertainers of the early 20th Century makes checking that pronunciation easy. Bottom Line: mispronunciations have a direct negative impact on credibility.
@ZipplyZane
@ZipplyZane 5 жыл бұрын
The credibility of the piece is shown by the actual information given, not how they pronounce a name. When you see a name in a language you don't know, it's easy to figure out you might need to look up the pronunciation. But when a name is spelled as if it is pronounced one way but is actually pronounced another way, it is easy not to even know you needed to look it up. It's fine to correct the creator, but it's weird assume the pronunciation challenges the credibility of an overview article like this.
@billvegas8146
@billvegas8146 5 жыл бұрын
@@ZipplyZane I going to guess that you've never worked in a broadcast newsroom. There it is never okay to blow a pronunciation. If you're a high school kid and you are just having fun go for it but real pros double check pronunciations. The reason professionals deem this important is that "if you can't even get the pronunciation right what else did you get wrong?" It sows seeds of doubt among those that catch the screw up. Again, real pros double check pronunciations especially of people and places.
@ZipplyZane
@ZipplyZane 5 жыл бұрын
Bill Vegas And I'm going to assume you know that all newsrooms will have the correct pronunciation written out on the TelePrompTer. I'm going to further assume you realize this isn't a news article. So I'm now going to put you on mute, because you can't seem to understand that attacking people for a mistake in pronunciation is an asshole move, and that you need to stop.
@billvegas8146
@billvegas8146 5 жыл бұрын
@@ZipplyZane Sloppy is sloppy. With today's internet it's easy to double check pronunciations. According to their wikipedia page Cheddar is a 'news network.' One that I'm sure is trying to present itself to the world as professional. Wire copy, which this was not, has pronunciation guides but professionals know not to rely on it. That's why in serious, professional broadcast newsrooms pronunciations, especially of names and places, are double checked.
@catjack90
@catjack90 2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing video, thank you so much for sharing!
@capnbobretired
@capnbobretired 5 жыл бұрын
What an excellent video. I learned a lot from it. It gives me greater appreciation of the early artists, and why some people became so famous. Thank you for sharing the video.
@hermask815
@hermask815 5 жыл бұрын
Would’ve been nice to know, if Sinatra and others experimented with different types and brands of microphones or even met inventors or engineers.
@FHL-Devils
@FHL-Devils 5 жыл бұрын
@2:50 - They certainly have great faces for radio.
@r0bw00d
@r0bw00d 5 жыл бұрын
I'll take the one on the left.
@erobertfie
@erobertfie 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative and beautifully and professionally produced. Very nice indeed. Something to be proud of. Thank you
@megantaylor3946
@megantaylor3946 5 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing video! The graphics were so engaging too.
@AtomicAgePictures
@AtomicAgePictures 5 жыл бұрын
Rudy Vallee's last name is pronounced like valley.
@JayTemple
@JayTemple 5 жыл бұрын
At least one of the sheet music covers renders his last name as Vallée, which would be pronounced the way the narrator does. My hunch is that he just stopped correcting people.
@AtomicAgePictures
@AtomicAgePictures 5 жыл бұрын
@@JayTemple that's certainly possible, but he himself pronounced it valley. So it seems that if that was not the original pronunciation he adopted it for simplicity sake.
@stvp68
@stvp68 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve always heard it pronounced Valley as well. But how does someone writing about/narrating this topic never hear anyone pronounce RV’s name? And if he hadn’t heard it pronounced, why wouldn’t he look it up?
@AtlantaTerry
@AtlantaTerry 5 жыл бұрын
@@stvp68 or just watch some the movies he was in where he pronounces his own name as "valley".
@davcar23
@davcar23 5 жыл бұрын
I thought Rudy Valle was a place between two hills.
@thebeststooge
@thebeststooge 5 жыл бұрын
Never heard that pronunciation of Rudy's name before as I always heard it as "Valley".
@dll7658
@dll7658 5 жыл бұрын
It's always nice to learn more about these classic songs ^_^
@tishtar7116
@tishtar7116 5 жыл бұрын
That was so amazing! Thank's a lot!
@timotejbernat462
@timotejbernat462 5 жыл бұрын
sheet music at 4:00 is...questionably accurate if not out of meter entirely
@bobblade2681
@bobblade2681 4 жыл бұрын
Timotej Bernat yeah I have perfect pitch, and the notes aren’t right.
@michaelthornton2971
@michaelthornton2971 4 жыл бұрын
I thought a lot of the transcriptions were pretty questionable throughout. at 5:55 the pulse isn’t aligned at all with the measure
@crystalar99
@crystalar99 4 жыл бұрын
"High tenor range" once again altos ard given the shaft
@LifeofLauraVideos
@LifeofLauraVideos 5 жыл бұрын
I love these videos! I always learn so much 🥰
@cornflkeboy1
@cornflkeboy1 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video, thank you so much for the education!
@mefirstplease3676
@mefirstplease3676 5 жыл бұрын
I think Crosby in the 30’s and his many popular recordings is my idea of true crooning.Crosby he milked it dry to put it frank.
@TotalSinging
@TotalSinging 5 жыл бұрын
Crosby was the first to conquer the microphone for radio, Sinatra conquered the microphone for vinyl.
@mefirstplease3676
@mefirstplease3676 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin Richards RPM Vocal Studio well stated
@kykale
@kykale 5 жыл бұрын
I only know Crosby because of the Looney Tunes cartoon where he rivals with Sinatra
@adorabell4253
@adorabell4253 5 жыл бұрын
Sintatra is singing like Crosby here. It’s why it sounds good.
@freethebirds3578
@freethebirds3578 5 жыл бұрын
Crosby scoops like he worked for Baskin Robbins.
@skakdosmer
@skakdosmer 5 жыл бұрын
When Rudy Vallée was a pannelist on “What's My Line”, they pronounced his name “valley” with the emphasis on the first syllable, and he didn't frown. So maybe that's the correct pronunciation.
@jamesewanchook2276
@jamesewanchook2276 2 жыл бұрын
kid pronounced it wrong, period.
@JustCrusader
@JustCrusader 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a fantastic video! I loved this, thank you :)
@Rob21ization
@Rob21ization 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. We need more videos about the early ages of jazz
@Omar-em7rl
@Omar-em7rl 5 жыл бұрын
2:16 it's suppose to be "Yes! We Have *No Bananas"
@briangonigal3974
@briangonigal3974 5 жыл бұрын
Apparantly there was also an "Answer" song called "Yes We Have Bananas" as well. These used to be fairly common, a sort of sequel/copycat to a hit song, usually rushed out by a competing artist to try to cash in on the original's success.
@vasopel
@vasopel 5 жыл бұрын
@@briangonigal3974 actually no, both of those artists recorded the same song. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes!_We_Have_No_Bananas
@zurvey
@zurvey 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I'd even suggest that the legato style of Bing Crosby and others was developed specifically because they wanted to avoid plosives in the mic. Later, when studio tricks like comping (compositing), de-essers, and even wind screens came along, singers didn't care about plosives anymore and vocal stylings in pop music changed again.
@knockshinnoch1950
@knockshinnoch1950 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating presentation
@EazyJakeOven
@EazyJakeOven 5 жыл бұрын
Really great video! Thanks.
@TheHippyProductions
@TheHippyProductions 5 жыл бұрын
Videos like this are great and all but anyone who reads this, please note that Cheddar doesnt always do the most solid research
@Theomite
@Theomite 5 жыл бұрын
True, but they take out a lot of legwork and at least draw up a shorthand map of places to look for your own research.
@nicksurfs1
@nicksurfs1 5 жыл бұрын
Could you provide an example? I’m seriously curious.
@kopesetik
@kopesetik 5 жыл бұрын
@@nicksurfs1 See further down in the comments where people are discussing the mispronunciation of Rudy Vallee's name.
@QED_
@QED_ 5 жыл бұрын
@Theomite: Your comment is so sensible that I'm going to go lie down to get over the shock . . .
@AtlantaTerry
@AtlantaTerry 5 жыл бұрын
@@kopesetik yes, Cheddar said it wrong 5 times.
@chublub4982
@chublub4982 4 жыл бұрын
what's that song from the part where they were talking about how oldest mics worked, the band with no vocals song
@elliepurvis3151
@elliepurvis3151 4 жыл бұрын
Thank. You so much for your vdioe I have been searching for weeks, trying to do my music exam i did it and it was compelety wrong your vidoe has helped me so much. As it doesn't have much history on the Greek style what is not needed and I can't belive that I'm done my assignment of a 7 minute video thank you so muchh ❤️
@dnxls_
@dnxls_ 5 жыл бұрын
what a FANTASTIC video
@danielk.7221
@danielk.7221 4 жыл бұрын
6:57 these notes aren't right on the treble clef. on the word "i'll", he's singing a G#2, and you out it on the treble clef as a D4.
@Jshaw6614
@Jshaw6614 4 жыл бұрын
I had this turned down, autoplay on and using it as white noise and thought this was Jon Bois and was really confused for a moment.
@Lainehh
@Lainehh 5 жыл бұрын
That video editor deserves a raise this is fantastic
@fabiofdez
@fabiofdez 5 жыл бұрын
I never knew I needed those little notes shaking with the vibrato
@bobriemersma
@bobriemersma 5 жыл бұрын
So many really old song recordings make me think of somebody singing "Winchester Cathedral" through a tin megaphone. "A-vo-dee-oh-doe!"
@ptptpt123
@ptptpt123 5 жыл бұрын
Good video.
@TessaAnderson
@TessaAnderson 2 жыл бұрын
Great info about vintage ribbon mics!!!!
@therealtedcruz8897
@therealtedcruz8897 5 жыл бұрын
Damn this is done so smoothly such an underrated video or channel probably both
@FartTurd69
@FartTurd69 5 жыл бұрын
I'm wonderful aren't I?
@raesmith2164
@raesmith2164 5 жыл бұрын
You are wonderful
@Shirai_Ryu92
@Shirai_Ryu92 5 жыл бұрын
Considering you’re not the real Sinatra, no
@FartTurd69
@FartTurd69 5 жыл бұрын
@@Shirai_Ryu92 who said that? Of course I'm real.
@windyboys
@windyboys 5 жыл бұрын
@@FartTurd69 you're dead.
@FartTurd69
@FartTurd69 5 жыл бұрын
@@windyboys is that a threat?
@MartyFox
@MartyFox 5 жыл бұрын
They're pronouncing Rudy Vallée's name as it wound have been pronounced by his Québécois ancestors, to rhyme with the French word "fiancée." Americans, who rarely bother to pronounce French-derived names correctly, have only ever pronounced it Valley.
@kopesetik
@kopesetik 5 жыл бұрын
yes, Americans AND Rudy Vallee: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fK-lhreFl52biH0.html
@memonk11
@memonk11 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, my grandmother, Aunt, on TV, when he died et.. pronounced it “Valley”.
@tdelfino2509
@tdelfino2509 5 жыл бұрын
My go-to rule for pronouncing someone's name: the correct way is however they pronounce it.
@jamesfeldman4234
@jamesfeldman4234 5 жыл бұрын
Rudy himself pronounced his name like "Valley," much as his famous grandson, singer Frankie Valli, does today. ;-)
@helmaschine1885
@helmaschine1885 5 жыл бұрын
@@kopesetik if I emigrated to America, I'd give up on trying to make hicks pronounce my name correctly too. His origins was french Canadian, Vallay is the correct french pronunciation, but his stage name and Americanised name became valley.
@tezziminee
@tezziminee 5 жыл бұрын
The editing in this video is great! Good job 👍
@thestonemedusa3300
@thestonemedusa3300 5 жыл бұрын
can i please just applaud the person(s)that edited this? The graphics and design of this video is so goood wtf. Like I stayed and watched all the video only because of how well it it edited.
@Chris874
@Chris874 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite crooner is smash mouth and my favorite love song is all star.
@Alejandro616
@Alejandro616 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite crooner has got to be MC Ride hands down.
@rjdihszifhyz6735
@rjdihszifhyz6735 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video great insight
@piyushgolait
@piyushgolait 5 жыл бұрын
I felt like the video should never end!
@ferociousgumby
@ferociousgumby 4 жыл бұрын
Rudy Vallee's name was pronounced "Valley".
@matchrocket1702
@matchrocket1702 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a terrible singer but I needed to sing in the band I was in to relieve the burden on the lead singer. We used Shure SM-58's and would put our lips nearly on the mike. Of course the venue we were in and the music we played wasn't nearly as subtle as what was presented in this video. The Shure SM-58 is the workhorse of popular music and club bands. You'll even see it in live concerts by top rated bands playing to thousands of people. Some musicians swear on the Shure SM-57. The 57 is usually used to mike instrument speaker cabinets. It's possible it works better with some voices.
@LC__15
@LC__15 5 жыл бұрын
Shure should start paying you for such a glowing recommendation or at the very least, give you their stuff for free :D
@matchrocket1702
@matchrocket1702 5 жыл бұрын
@@LC__15 Nah, everybody uses their stuff. There are plenty of other good microphones too though. If you don't want to think too hard about it or are new and don't know what to get, just buy an SM-58 for your vocal mike. Simple.
@BloodRoseRecords
@BloodRoseRecords 5 жыл бұрын
I've had the best quality from CAD and Shure microphones, especially the Shure 12L, Shure SM57, and the CAD u37. The CAD u37 works great for one-take recordings, like you might get recording at a live performance, or doing a podcast. The SM57 does an amazing job with mic-ing instruments and doing vocals. And the 12L is a solid all-around choice, on top of being extremely hardy, although most musicians would chose the 58 over the 12L.
@matchrocket1702
@matchrocket1702 5 жыл бұрын
@@arnehurnik If I knew that I probably wouldn't have posted my comment about them. But I'm not surprised. They are basically very good, all around mikes and very tough.
@hannuback
@hannuback 5 жыл бұрын
The 57 and the 58 are the industry standards for very good reasons. They're not the only options, but usually the ones you compare other mics to. You really can't go wrong with those mics, though you might find something better suited for your voice or other recording purposes. Shure mics are good to start with, if you don't know what you're looking for. Chances are you're going to use them for your whole career at least every now and then.
@BrianClem
@BrianClem 5 жыл бұрын
How do you make such an amazingly produced video? The notes appearing on the staff is very cool.
@corneliuscross7873
@corneliuscross7873 5 жыл бұрын
Glade to finally put a name to what's probably my favorite style of singing
@benitollan
@benitollan 5 жыл бұрын
4:26 so "Learn to croon" that was 1920s #LearnToCode?
@Crazelord91
@Crazelord91 5 жыл бұрын
I'm really liking Cheddar. It's like Vox without the biased political garbage
@Omar-em7rl
@Omar-em7rl 5 жыл бұрын
funny story, few months ago i Subscribed to Vox, after a few uploads, i noticed a few political remarks, especially on the liberal side, but just shook it off, maybe it was just this once, but then the immigration one was uploaded and i was like okay that's enough for me and Unsubscribed....
@Crazelord91
@Crazelord91 5 жыл бұрын
@@Omar-em7rl I did after the video that blamed all political problems on Republicans
@Omar-em7rl
@Omar-em7rl 5 жыл бұрын
@@Crazelord91 ridiculous, never saw that one, never will.
@vvviiimmm
@vvviiimmm 5 жыл бұрын
@@Omar-em7rl It feels like Vox has multiple teams with completely different views. I enjoy watching Vox Borders or Almanac but Vox News is a BS that is impossible to read.
@jdredman
@jdredman 5 жыл бұрын
KZfaq commentary in a nutshell: Video on singers/microphones, comment about how it wasn’t “political garbage”, triggered replies that devolve into other topics (violent crime statistics). Wow. It doesn’t matter what the video is about, it could be a Chicago power ballad...
@lilibetp
@lilibetp 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite crooner is John Gary. I've heard his recording of Unchained Melody hundreds of times, and it still gives me a thrill every time.
@garysmith9823
@garysmith9823 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen this done before, but you did it best.
@JayTemple
@JayTemple 5 жыл бұрын
To answer the question that was overhead: Crosby had the better voice, but Sinatra did better things with his.
@Ignasimp
@Ignasimp 5 жыл бұрын
Having a better voice is subjective though. Sinatra had an outstanding singing technique.
@adorabell4253
@adorabell4253 5 жыл бұрын
It’s all preference. I hate Sinatra’s voice but love Crosby’s. I think Crosby did better with his.
@Ignasimp
@Ignasimp 5 жыл бұрын
@@adorabell4253 Sinatra did have the better technique and control over his voice. Bing had a beautiful voice too and good technique.
@Efreeti
@Efreeti 5 жыл бұрын
Can't mention Billie Holiday without mentioning her recording of Crazy He Calls Me
@nevada_us6115
@nevada_us6115 4 жыл бұрын
Both of them are good! Both has a good feeling.
@MiaGarcia
@MiaGarcia 4 жыл бұрын
This editing is perfect!
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