EckhartsLadder can you do how the resistance destroyers the starkiller base?

Can you do one on the Battle of Coruscaunt (from episode 3)

Can we see what you would have done if you had control of the imperial fleet at Endor as well as the death star?

there were around 23 star destroyers at jakku just saying

EckhartsLadder I love these new battle breakdowns! Keep em' going Eckhart. It's an interesting series

No the first order was famous for it's demilitarization of the new republic.

@Chosen One They did demiliarized. The Senate passed The Demilitarization Act. The funding for the Republic fleet was transfered to the local defense systems. They retired most of the New Republic ships including the Raddus.

@Chosen One Not really. What happens if dictatorship or a power hungry government suddenly rules a system and then sets off a military campaign? (Say the Zygerrians) and they have their own fleet of starships. The New Republic will be screwed

@Chosen One Look what happen to The New Republic at Episode 7. After The First Order used Starkiller base destroyed the Republic Senate and MAJORITY of the Starfleet, the galaxy was fucked. Several star systems fell with little to no resistance since it's every planet on it's own. Unlike the Republic fleet that covers the entire galaxy, the local defense systems only cover their own system.

@Chosen One those were not armies, those were scavenged ships and mostly regular people, there were 0 large cruisers to fight the Final Order, mostly cargo ships and modified frigates. If the new republic would’ve had a well fortified Star fleet the First Order would’ve never won, watch how a single Star destroyer took over an entire planet, that’s how weak the New Republic was.

lol if these ships parked in a stable orbit (to remove much need for engines to stay 'afloat' at an appropriate inclination the star ships would taken years or never crashed back into the surface. they could prob wait till after the war was over and still have time to go up and salvage the wrecks

Well, it really depends on what maneuvers they do. If they simply change orbits during the fight - they won't fall to surface for eons even with engines disabled. But if they slow down below orbital speed (to keep themselves above specific point of surface, for example) and keep themselves on choosen altitude in case their battle maneuvers require to - they may fall.

@@Vasim122 I don´t think any starwars ship cares for orbital maneuvers. They just sit above the planet, held there with their engines.

@@Sidewinder1311 probably the case, engines just counteract gravity, also means you can slowly descend to the surface,

If I was Rax, I would move the Ravenger over jakku, unstead with the fleet.

The overbloated empire WAS REBORN into an even MORE incompetent faction!

The Empire lost a Death Star and a SSD in a single battle.

Azurai In a battle that had been meticulously planned by the Rebellion for a long time, in which a good portion of the rebel fleet was still destroyed before victory was achieved. As opposed to a literal last-minute plan by a janitor carried out by a handful of x-wings, AFTER the exact same thing has happened with the first Death Star.

Both the Empire and the First Order lose to people they outgun tenfold on a regular basis.

KingDeath720 You seem to be under the impression that I was defending the attack on Starkiller Base. Let me be clear: I absolutely was not. I was comparing the logically thought out attack on the second Death Star to the idiotic attack on Starkiller to show how bad it is.

Hey, check when this was released please....

@@Cheese-qk1ft doesn't matter, disney star wars is non canon bad fanfiction

@@Demiurge13 True! BUT I AM STILL ALIVE, AND I ALWAYS WILL

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@@leathers4340 more like A SITH LaWd!?!

True, they assume their presence and power is enough to handle the day, not proper tactics. Which is why the few intelligent officers, such as Thrawn, are so deadly: they use the Imperial war machine to its most effective capabilities.

The Tarkin Doctrine at its finest. "Why actually have strategy, when you can just be big and scary? Never mind having a military that's prepared, competent, AND capable - in the event your enemies *aren't* intimidated into submission. Just keep being bigger, scarier, and more powerful/threatening than anyone else around! Trust me bro, I guarantee it'll work! There's no way the entire concept could possibly backfire or fall apart in practice, by making you such an evident threat that your enemies feel *compelled* to take you down at all costs - purely out of necessity for their own survival! Nah, just keep trying to scare them with big, pointy-shaped warships, and moon-sized, planet-destroying disco balls. Trust me, everything'll work out just fine!" -Grand Moron Weedhuff Tarkin to Emperor Steve Plantain, Circa 14 BBY (Seriously, though: The man single-handedly did more to cripple the Empire than the Rebellion could have ever hoped to without him, purely by convincing Palpatine that "Fear = ez W".)

True. Exactly because plot armour. In reality the rebellion woulda been lost

I think this is perfectly showcased in Empire at War, where the Empire will lose most space battles against the Rebels and the Xan Consortium (especially the consortium, Jesus Christ) unless you as the player actively go out of your way to mass target enemies.

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Palpatine died. His clone existed.

Shut up the sequels don’t exist

Darw¡n 42 Actually Palpatine never died in any of the canons. His physical body died but his conscious survived and got out into thousands of clones. Don’t ask how this is possible, it’s dark force manipulation

@100 subs 1 vid wut? I never said anything about that

Would've been a good strategy

Multiple beams could have caused shearing, perhaps there was not enough power with all the ISD's using power to turbolasers, and there would have to be a command issued to all the ships.

yah it was so big they would just be tearing chunks off of it and be completely vulnerable to, well, everything

Thanks for replying. In my opinion sacrificing a few ISDs would have been worth it to save the ship that was basically their only hope. But I'm no expert! May not have been possible.

That would make too much sense.

Yes. That would be nice.

There is also a model made by the Empire at War Remake Modder Jeroen

Yes, we don't even have stats on them. We know they are pretty big and powerful, but they could be 2,000m; 4,000m or easily over 5,000. It completely varies how much​ of a scale there was in this battle.

Max Jones I would be so happy if they made it a Reskin of the Bothan assault cruiser but then again it’s supposed to be based off the ISD so who knows

Yeah, that would be cool. The only thing is they are way too small (Starhawks are suggested to be some of the most powerful warships in the NR, capable of easily defeating star destroyers) and they also have a slightly different description, with a tomahawk​ like a shape at the front.

Gallius Rax earlier in the battle: "Hell yes!" Later in the battle: "Hell no!"

Rax didn't care how the battle went. The plan was to blow up Jakku and take out both sides, the Empire and the New Republic, in one sweep while he ran off to the Unknown Regions with the parts of the Empire he planned to use to rebuild. The purpose of the battle was to draw in and mire down the New Republic's forces long enough to trigger the planetary destruction mechanism.

Too bad he threw the wrong woman to the wolves.

Admiral Versio: "._. I should be in command, rip."

Apothecary Galan thrawn or separatist?

Separatist vs Republic

Yeah right the empire had 20000 destroyers and still lost, right that's what you call Disney

it would just be a bunch venator class cruisers versus the far better and more varied cis? i forgot the acronym

@@manabuhorikita1453 bro it was George who decided that he made the empire lose

They would of fell as well

@@Darkdestroyer21 Yes because Starhawk's tractor beam is super powerful

Argueably that could work.but I mean the Executor was as heavy as the whole fleet and as far as i know a Star Destroyer Tractor beam can BARELY take a Cr90

@ToMlgForYou Uhm one year is logical to destroy the Empire because whole galaxy is against them I love aftermath story

@ your a sequel supporter, it wouldn't of taken 1 year. They didn't even have the whole galaxy, only parts of it. In Canon, planets revolted and defeated them. That doesn't make sense, go get a brain.

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I know, I know. If it were THREE years say, I wouldn't mind as much. The only hard numbers we get is they sent a fleet to Jakku three times what they had at Endor, so maybe 300-400 ships?

I still hate how Canon decided to end everything within one year instead of the dozens we had in Legends.

It makes no fucking sense, IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE. HOW. HOW. How did a fucking rebellion make the industrial base necessary?

I presume by mass defections and uprisings? But they'd still need TIME to operate also.

I mean shit, How many planets would have to defect for that to happen, in EU, the fight to coruscant was long, hard and bloody, it took effort and multiple times did the alliance nearly lose it all again

Discount Eclipse? In Aftermath :Empire's End the last Imperial Remnant(the one that eventually becomes the First Order) finds the Eclipse in the Unknown Regions

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Intro is short for introduction. There's no such thing as an outroduction. Outro isn't a word. The word you're looking for is closing.

@@KarmaTiger Outroduction is word and it is used for the closing remarks of a book.

KarmaTiger dude, you’re on KZfaq and you’re trying to be literal? Outro is just a colloquialism that’s used to be the opposite of an intro. Also, as previously stated, outroductions do exist. Stop trying to be a smartass since it just makes you look ignorant.

Yes, I’d really like a series of movies, maybe a trilogy about the fall of the empire that includes project cinder and the battle of Jakku.

Fernando Marques The new live action TV series could give us some footage. It plays only 3 years after Endor

I think a movie thats similar to Rogue One would be great for the Battle of Jakku.

Well until something like that happens, you can look up EA's Battlefront 2 campaign footage as the second to last mission (of the main campaign) takes place in the battle.

I would love to see a movie about everything that's not yet a movie.

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no i prefer seeing rey just scavenge through the aftermath of the battle, its way more exciting

The problem was that this baattle happened a year after Endor. But the actors are years older.

@@SmokeDog1871 now that I think about it, yeah it is kinda cool

Or it could’ve showed the battle of jakku skip 36 years later sees Rey scavenges through it and the rest of the movie plays on

Star Wars battlefront does show it. Although you only play as a foot soldier. But it’s awesome to see a star destroyer slowly sink to the ground, with the screen shaking as it finally impacts the ground.

Taco1011 read Empire’s End, then watching clips from the Battlefront 2 story mode. It’s so amazing. The whole planet is a battlefield.

Is empires end the book that he gets a lot of his specifics from? If so I definitely need to read thay

Pretty cool moment

The New Republic and its fleet was destroyed by First Order 30 years later

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@Chara Except a good chunk of First Order personnel evacuated Starkiller Base when It was nearly blown up.

@@ufukcangencoglu2279 trust me not a whole lot got off of starkiller base when it exploded it still had almost 700k people on the base when it blew up

A lot were on Starkiller but a good many were on Snoke's Supremacy-class Mega Star Destroyer.

Literally every first order star destroyer is just a giant command ship. The loss of starkiller base didnt mean anything

@@ilikepigeons6101 it would certainly mean something, they lost hundreds of thousands of men, equipment and years of work was destroyed.

It brought forth a resurgence, one that again brought order.

Never read the Thrawn trilogy, have you?

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as mentioned in the video: some were, some were destroyed at Jakku

Gerardo Reyes that's my theory

How Imperial ships ARE there at Jakku? Supposedly they can be defeated by a Republic fleet three times the strength of the Rebel fleet at Endor. I call shenanigans.

The rebel fleet at Endor was pretty large, the movie only directly shows one battlegroup of many. You can see far more out the windows of the Executor and deathstar.

I've been trying to count them for years. There are 13 retreating from the Death Star in the DVD version. If there are 20 total, with 5 escorts each, that's 100 ships easy.

Technically has happened on screen in Battlefront but yeah I get what you mean, a trilogy of the Aftermath books would've been awesome. We would get to see battles like The Battle of Kuat Drive Yards and Jakku.

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It could be a combination of lack of coordination, not being at an angle to use the tractor beam, needing to divert power to the beams thereby exposing shields

Supposedly by uprisings, defections and capture of hardware...

also "bleeding Edge" is kinda overstating.. the ISD Design was nearly 20+ Years old at the Battle ofJakuu, the SSD around 5... the Technology could be from like 2 Yeasr ago and it woudl still be bleeding edge in comparison tothe Empires

Because stealing technology was always a high priority in the Rebel Alliance, starting with their starfighters. Additionally, there was little opportunity for advancement in the Empire for non-humans, so the Imperial Navy largely missed out on the talents of designers who were from other species.

After the NR starts winning across the galaxy (Paldora mentions just how badly the Empire is on the run), tech companies that always sympathized with the rebels, or even the elite that don’t necessarily but sense which way the wind is blowing, would start flocking over to their camp. According to the Darth Vader comics, the Empire had at least 3 SDs within a year of Revenge of the Sith - is it outside of the realm of possibility that a significant portion of a galaxy’s worth of elite, the motivation of a war, and the same amount of time could give the NR at least 3 Starhawks in a year? The Empire had the whole galaxy instead of having a divided intellectual sphere, yes, but the war against the separatists holdouts impacted the galaxy roughly zero in terms of wartime versus peacetime - and war tech always increases exponentially faster in times of war

Perhaps in term of a usual government system, the aspect that war tech stagnates over peacetime would be accurate, but as the Empire has a significant focus on the military to maintain the galaxy, its tech is bound to improve over the years - though admittingly, as you implied, - albeit slower. But even with the major companies of Rebel sympathizers flowing over to the NR at the end of the war, to think that R&D being done for some bleeding edge tech over a year that even things like the highly funded Imperial Department of Military Research - who built the death star - can't even match is just out there for me. For comparison, it's like General Electric suddenly exceeding DARPA in an arms race in 5 years.

The Dark Knight from what the books say, it’s less of a total disarming and more of a congregation of different armies. The idea that Mothma has was to have several systems and worlds help each other out as opposed to a central government

Ummmh... that was just the survivors of the Resistance that fit into the Falcon. There was no mention of the New Republic fleet in the movies, but we can expect that a good part of it was destroyed together with the Hosnian system. However, I don't remember them mentioning that the Hosnian system was the seat of the New Republic Government either. I guess I either missed that or it was cut out with the scenes that played there.