If you’re wondering why there’s a cursor in the visual novel footage, it’s because I used an AI upscaling tool to make the window above 480P, since the visual novel is ancient, and the cursor is a side effect that I can’t get rid of, unfortunately. Also, I made a Discord server! You can join it here: discord.gg/c9wz9yJcA7

They didn't even get a Persona 5 collab

Love Live had the gall to release an EN gacha AND ANNOUNCE THE SHUTDOWN DATE IN A SINGLE TWEET.

>Immortal >6 Hours lifespan

Ok but shutting down in just 6 hours is crazy. That’s the duration of my school hours.

Muv Luv fan: "Oh boy, a Muv Luv gatcha, I can't wait to play it after my shift ends"

What's worse, shutting down in 6 hours or announcing EOS before the game even dropped (Love Live School Idol Festival 2 💀)

... spill bro, you just wanted to talk about muvluv

In an alternate timeline, it is Muv Luv Alternative that spawn dozens of light novels, mangas, video game spin off, billions of dollars earning gacha, anime done with care and love that can join the pantheon of mecha greats such as Gundam, Macross and Evangelion. While Fate would be the one struggling to stay relevant and is drowned in the ocean of products on the theme of "historical legendary and mythical figures as cute girls".

I didn't expect to hear muv luv again after nearly 20 years

No matter how bad Genshin and Fate fans think they got it, at least they aren't Muv Luv fans.

Ye they tried to be FGO 💀 I still cannot process how a modern gacha game tries to have a 1% drop rate for SSR in 2023

I thought this was going to be about the Love Live spinoff that announced its end of service date before it even launched. But even that got two months of live time.

The only thing I know about MuvLuv is that one meme about "If you scream, I will choke you with my breast"

The muv luv VNs are masterpieces imo and after that they were unable to keep the franchise afloat, even the devs said if the gacha failed that was the end of the franchise (this was because they invested on NFTs and failed lol), personally I prefer to treasure the memories the franchise gave me instead of seeing it being desecrated.

It's kind of sad to see where Muv-Luv is now. From what I've read, the series deserved its praise. It's a shame that instead of the company investing in a standard video game, LNs, or other media, they chose a gacha game with no pity system post Genshin launch. It was doomed to fail. There's just way too nuch competiton and the bugs definitely didn't help. Its just sad to see.

muv-luv girls got them geometric hairs.

13:47 LIMBUS COMPANY MENTIONED!!!!!!!

Everytime people say visual novels are a dying game genre my mind always just thinks of ddlc and how hard it popped off

13:47 PROJECT MOON MENTIONED

God that currency issue is probably one of the second funniest ones I have heard. Only thing weirder for me was the one I personally experienced in one piece treasure cruise. And that happened twice in that game's history...

This... This was Muv Luv's last chance or so i heard... So most likely we won't get the chronicles animated or the last chapter of day after... So sad to see my favourite franchise sink and die so horrible.

seeing the UN blue helmets in a early 2000s visual novel was a jumpscare

I think this story shows that not everything needs to be a massive, expansive franchise. Sometimes just telling a story and leaving it at that is the best way to go. It’s better to end things on a high note than to drag it on and leave fans disappointed and frustrated. I do feel for the devs though, it must have been hell going through the effort of developing a game like that just for it to shut down in six hours. At least they were able to relaunch it

Not gonna lie, i got so intrigued with the visual novel story of how it went from typical rom-com visual novel and then went full into sci-fi that i forgot this was a video about a failed gacha game

You know this guy is a true fan when he can actually pronounce âge correctly. Just a few corrections, this isnt the first gacha from the muv-luv franchise, there was another one years ago called Muv-Luv Alternative: Strike Frontier, which was set in an alternative reality were a important "unit" is different, was a really cool game, had a chibi artstyle for the in game models and a FGO style of gacha. About Immortals, i was there playing it because i'm a massive fan of the franchise, the idea of the game was fine until you played it, it was kind of miserable, and actually make sense to be like that, Immortals was basically done by one person that had never done a full project before as far as i remember, thats why it took a year and a half to come back because a proper studio called Next Ninja came in the project to redo the whole game, it was kinda ugly, there was a video of the producer of the franchise and the developer apologizing that was really somber, i think its still up in the muv-luv japanese youtube channel. The game right now is fine, they implemented the whole visual novel now in the game but it still feels like a cash grab, the story as far as i readed was not good, it was just disappointing, there were a lot of projects that rubbed the fans the wrong way in this period of time, like the NFT project as well as this gacha, and for some, the anime, but if that is the price to get Resonative, Integrate and Eurofront i would be fine. I would have said that this was the last place that i would have thought that i see something muv-luv related, but i would be lying, it wouldnt even be on my mind, goated video.

“VN crazed during highschool”, you and me both. Aha….I played a bit too much secretly during comp.sci., intermedia art, music tech., and basically any class that has access to a PC during free time. Had pretty much all the popular VN on a flash drive. Got caught playing Saya no Uta, luckily on the non-spicy moment and especially not on some of the other titles.

To add to the insanity of video the head dev for the first iteration of immortals was a literal who that kouki yoshimune (og creator and writer for muv luv) picked up from like a twitter thread after he said ¨yeah Id make a baller game instead of your last failure lol¨ and then proceeded to eat a horse meat ramen on releae date with the uma musume hashtag, this absolute failure was so full of himself he thought he had an uma killer in his hands.

As a VN fan who doesn't give a crap about Gachas It was nice to hear someone talk about the Muv Luv gacha, And one of many failed attempts for a vn company To go for the gachas money banks But was also nice to hear songs from stuff like Subahibi and Kara no Shoujo, I can tell you were once a big story VN fan That said while VNs are "technically" becoming less popular. There are still good stuff coming out with the last several years. In particular, we've been getting a lot of official translations of good stuff

Unbelievable!! But this pretty much sums how is the current state of the gacha games, is not the first company to put all the eggs on the gacha genre basket, risking to lose it all in case of failure. In any case, I never heard about the muv-luv franchise, and now I'm very interested in playing/reading the firsts VN.

This was a fantastic video. I really enjoyed how you broke down the franchise as the start in a really digestible manner, BEFORE delving into the game itself. That kind of context is really important!

Holy cow, considering how rocky Nikke's launch was, I can't imagine trying to play a game near the beginning of the day and coming back after work or school and learning it's dead. I am so happy Nikke is where it is now. I just hope it sticks around for a long time.

"I don't think there's been a gacha game directly appealing to the mecha genre" Iron Saga look on in dissaproval, its a love letter to the mecha genre. There's also the SRW Gacha too, I guess.

Sounds to me like Age was flying way too close to the sun. Instead of tryingto break into an already oversaturated market with very little experience, they should've gone for crossovers. As a mix of Dating Sim and Mecha Battles, Muv-Luv could've fit in a wide variety of current gachas, including Nikke, Granblue, Honkai, and many more. I dunno if they really had a well-laid plan on continuing a story that from how I understand, is long concluded, or if this was a desperate attempt at staying relevant and making money, but yeah - the franchise is basically done for, regardless. It's either gacha hell or death, as some of the comments you showed put it.

You gained my sub simply by mentioning Chaos;Child, Baldr Sky and Muv Luv lol. Awesome video

Muv Luv alternative is not only a banger visual novel, but also has one hell of a banger song.

One of the Muv Luv immortal player, already progressed a lot within 3 hours after it's release, just to be logged in once again with infinite maintenance works. 😅

You read the Muv-Luv trilogy? I will follow you forever my man. 🤴

OH MAN, A GLIMSE AT THE PAIN THAT NEVER STOPS FOR THE MUV LUV FAN

By the 10 minute mark I had completely forgotten this was about a gacha game. I was just enjoying the visual novel review.

For being in the apocolypse their hair look great, spotless fair skin and their cloths were perfect. We don't have that in a normal running world.

took speedrunning to a whole new level 😂

I frickin waited for Takt op. since the anime ended just to burned all my gacha currency and not get Cosette because the pity system frinkin sucks 😭😭

Did not expect a section dedicated to Muv Luv VN but it is a surprise I am all for! Nice to see some surprise VN content, since I myself is a fan.

And you didnt mention the mess with the N-F-T-s. Fantastic video, its been a while since I read the VN but its nice that the series is still going

5:00 Guy reads visual novels and when you listen to the BGM around here, you hear the one from SubaHibi. Absolute Legend.

Dude, the overview of a highly regarded series within a niche genre was really cool. I had heard the name Muvluv before but I knew nothing about it. Great vid bro.

Wow this was a great video! Thank you for introducing me to the Muv-Luv!

Wasn't there a gacha game way back when, where it had this time loop mechanic thing? And it repeats the story but with different outcomes? It was the most unique thing I saw in a gacha game. Then the devs suddenly threw the game under the bus and ran away with the money or something like that. Gacha rates we're horrible too. 😅😅

7:39 No way, Oberon's battle theme???? Dude has a good taste B)

Takt. Op was just... Sad... The anime was good, the world building is interesting and the characters are likeable. But it took so long for the game to release that all that hype from the anime was just gone. Even though I liked the anime, I couldn't be bothered to play the game cause I'm just not that interested w/ it anymore. I've already moved on from the hype that I felt from the anime.

They shut down as fast as Denmark surrender in ww2 which is crazy

Reading it was a trip back then. The many sprites they made make it look like it's an anime. The only thing I'll say about Muv-Luv Alternative is that it's a regressor story, and it's great.

Thankyou..leave the dive into what it was, and how it happened..will check out Muv Luv now too!

I've never read a single visual novel before, but I really enjoyed listening to your passionate narration. Thank you.

A video series on obscure/forgotten gacha games would be good

When I first saw Total eclipce it was definetelly new expirience in anime, I had never seen seemingly main characters cast to die almost entierly in a span of 5 minutes in most horrible ways possible

9:34 hearing the outer wilds ost so suddenly made me emotional... Great video btw!

Im halfway through the vid and i had to pause just to metion the incredible quality and detail in this production. Damn, dude

Man, I remember this game. I actually was able to play it since I follow a lot of gacha channels on KZfaq that promotes new mobile games. Although, I didn't understand Japanese, I did enjoy the gameplay and the art. I had no idea it was shutdown indefinitely since I could no longer login the next day.

I feel baited since this was only "technically a shut down" case

Well at least this Gacha got actually released even for only 6 hours. Company light tried to make a Gacha based on their Shinza Banshou Series (Paradise Lost, Dies Irae, KKK) called Dies Irae -Pantheon- and actually ended up cancelling the thing as their parent company went under. Well at least Dies Irae got translated to english but still. Screw Gacha games.

First time watcher here and I thoroughly enjoyed your storytelling here. Even made me, someone who hates harem-genre-type-stuff, want to play muvluv to experience the novel firsthand.

I love how you've just expanded out to talk about Gacha games in general now

What an insane story. Nice use of Oberon and Outer Wilds music btw 👍

A really enjoyable video. Love Muv luv

MLA with all my gripes with the story, was such a great read. This video brought back alot of good memories of when I first read it. Visual novels are so underrated.

Before watching this video, I only knew of Muv-Luv through mecha and model-building circles, and the impression I got of it was that it was a very grim, downbeat series with a depressing setting and a lot of character death. I had NO IDEA it was a VN, and everything about its style and presentation was a huge surprise to me. Basically, I got the mood whiplash in reverse to everyone else.

Interesting! Iron Saga is another mobile gacha. It's quite old at this point and not very popular I don't think, but it has its charm (and lots of collabs)!

It’s sad to have efforts put in and just thrown out the window. Hoping all these new gachas become successful and go big.

Enjoyed the Oberon battle theme music, nice choice.

The whole trilogy is literally my core memory. One of my first if not the only series where i dedicate my time and emotion to play it. I went in blind and it took me a week to actually digest Alternative. I had to stop playing like 3 times in the middle of it because of Jinguji- Sensei, Sumika, and Meiya... Like dude i'm 16 at the time, that almost scars me for life. Well, maybe it did when i think about it knowing how different i am after that game.

A critique: nothing you said in the plot summary of the original trilogy really affected the explanation of how the Gacha flopped (except for the "beta" joke). It would have been sufficient to bring up how it was incredibly popular and that it was mecha genre.

If only the games I like would get revived like this... Cocktail Prince got their whole IP discarded, like it never existed, and Valkyrie Crusade is... well... with a gacha system like that in the modern day, it wouldn't make sense to come back . The rates were so low and pulls were so expensive that you were either a full-blown giga-whale, or you only got event cards/free-pull-ticket cards and spent all your gems on refreshes so you could rank in the events and timer resets for building. Kakupuri had more generous pulling income and better rates (especially when EoS was announced. you could basically infinitely pull and get all the cards you missed out on), but got killed because of Apple's changes to their store (the thing that got rid of 32 bit games. I'll never forgive them.)

Thx for the video!

You are goated for using Oberon's OST

Just found your channel, interesting and cool videos to be honest. It’d be really cool if you reviewed Arknights, personally my most favourite gacha game.

Muv Luv being mentioned at least let’s go 😭

Hey, there has technically been a mecha gacha game before, not sure if you've heard of it, it's called Honkai Impact 3rd, it's pretty popular for its pretty cinematics!

Great video!

Well I never knew Muv LuV had a gacha. Not unexpected it would die fast. The railroaded story in alternative fucked things so badly that not even Alterd fable could fix the damage. Kinda stumbled along afterwards. So a gacha game wasn't going to fix anything. Another horrible "gacha" would be Breath of Fire 6. That was so bad it got boycotted by fans and shutdown fast. It's really sad to see old loved series get a mobile sequal just for the sole purpose burning to the ground.

With a name like Beta they seems oddlly overpowered.

I'm invested in this now! Gonna finish Fate before starting this series!

Waiting on that Crown review!

“Why did this bug get through? Because there was no testing.” What you mean to say is they were just like every other scumbag devs who couldn’t be assed to do the bare minimum to makes sure they had a viable product because they just wanted to shovel it out to start raking in money. Ain’t no ambiguity about it.

Too bad. I actually like the alternative Timeline

MuvLuv, a series where its both so popular and underrated at the same time. A series where every adaptation of it is mid at best (i'm sorry Schwarzmarken and Total Eclipse). And hearing they're making gacha games because they need a fund making the Intergrade makes my heart sinks. Great video btw! Plus point for mentioning Baldr Sky!!

I noticed that Let it Die music, good taste brother

- VN - Japan - compare to Fate series It's P0rn isn't it?

Dam what a shame, Muv Luv is one franchise that deserve to be bigger. The abine wasn't that bad ... Well at least the side stories...

Never think I don't see ya there with the Let It Die elevator music. I see you there. Good shit.

Honestly, I think age should try getting back to their roots with classic VNs with good writing

Muv-Luv being talked about in 2024 in the context of a failed gacha game retrospect is a bit wild, but I'll still take it. If any of you actually decide to pick the VNs after this video, I salute you, enjoy the ride. First you Muv, then you Luv.

I'm sorry but, everything good until you used the t slur. Probably going to get hate comments here, but its still very inappropriate and harmful to say. I hope you have a good day.

I'm genuinely happy you gave the praise that the visual novel deserves, even so far as going to cite the Attack on Titan mangaka, so people don't go thinking it's something genuinely bad. Thank you.

It must really suck to have all that work go down drain even if they brought it on themselves.

4:14 isnt the "trap" term pretty transphobic?

Did you say trap ? Like... The word that's used very widely against trans peoples ? No...

It's crazy that you could miss all of that while being at work or in school

I remember watching the fastest ending service, i dont remember its this one or other game that have same problem. But the thing that i remember is "Not preparing beta test before the game release" is the reason. Thats why alot of game taking their time for mulitple beta test to prevent something bad happening on the release