How to Adjust Tractor Three Point Stabilizers

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Tractor Mike

Tractor Mike

9 жыл бұрын

I had a request from a viewer for a video about how to adjust the three point stabilizer bars on a tractor. I'm more than glad to supply that, it's something that you need to do to protect your tires, your tractor three point and your implement.
First we need to discuss what stabilizers do. They're there to keep the implement from swinging from side to side when driving in a field or down the road, and to keep the three point arms away from the tires. On some tractors (the one in the video isn't the best example, but it's lower arms did touch the tire) the three point travel from side-to-side allows the edge of it to contact the tires. When it does you'll hear a pretty loud noise, every time a lug goes around it actually hits the implement and tries to lift it up, then drops it when it gets past the lug. As crazy as it seems, I saw a customer who bought a brand new tractor and failed to adjust his stabilizers and nearly ruined a new set of tires, chewing the inside corners off each lug. How he ran it without figuring out something was wrong I don't know because it had to make a tremendous racket. Surprisingly, the tractor company bought him a new set of rear tires but told us to tell him to NEVER let that happen again, that was the last set of tires they were buying.
Most of the early tractors had either no stabilizers, or a set of chains that limiters the movement of the lower lift arms. The ones with no stabilizers were positioned where they couldn't touch the tires (which limited) the ability to get them wide enough to hook up an implement), the others used chains to limit how far out the arms could go, stopping them before contact with the tires.
Moist of today's tractors have one of two forms of stabilizers. Telescopic stabilizers use a bar with a sleeve around it and holes through both and by putting a pin through a hole you're set and the implement won't go anywhere.
The stabilizers my viewer requested the training on were probably the other stabilizers, which use a turnbuckle to get the implement where you want it, with a jam nut against the turnbuckle to keep everything tight and for vibration to loosening everything up.
It's a little hassle to have to adjust stabilizers even time you hook up an implement but it sure saves on tire wear, and damage to the tires, and/or the implement, by it swinging around wildly behind you.
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@JohnaFactsDontCare...
@JohnaFactsDontCare... 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to explain it this way. As a single woman working 60 acres alone, I've broken stabilizers by not having them set properly. Trying to avoid it happening again, and I think your video was super helpful. My tractor has the turnbuckle type of stabilizers. I hope you keep making videos for those of us who didn't grow up in the country, are too hard headed to ask for help, and aren't mechanically inclined. Now if you just had a diy air conditioner to install so I could avoid this Texas heat while on the tractor you'd be my hero!
@ibidesign
@ibidesign 5 жыл бұрын
Finally, somebody has done a how-to video on stabilizers that involve TURNBUCKLES! Thank you. You should add the term 'turnbuckle' to your tags so people can find it that way, too. Your video never came up before; I only found it by sheer luck this time.
@jimnowak3960
@jimnowak3960 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike another good video for beginners. That includes me. I am 73 years old and have been driving tractors since I was 10. Your videos help everyone be safe. Keep up the good work.
@g.alistar7798
@g.alistar7798 5 жыл бұрын
Mike, you tightened that first jam nut with the crescent wrench BACKWARD. The second one you tightened correctly. The strength is not in the jaw but in the steel....Probably not a big deal on a turnbuckle but back on the farm In Iowa, dad would give you a stern talking! Great video, thanks.
@613kc
@613kc Жыл бұрын
Same here, wking wells and pumps. You just want to through a sloppy Adj wrench in the trash.
@Allworldsk1
@Allworldsk1 3 жыл бұрын
Seemed like great straight forward information to the point and I appreciate the upload. Thank you. Some people don't appreciate anything now days
@thatfeeble-mindedboy
@thatfeeble-mindedboy 6 жыл бұрын
SO HELPFUL!! Thank you so much for this.. LOVE your channel .. Videos SO WELL PRESENTED! You are a gifted natural teacher. It's like Kahn Academy for tractors.
@EldradWolfsbane
@EldradWolfsbane 6 жыл бұрын
THANKS! You are the only person to FINALLY give the the knowledge I needed.
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Mike. Great video, designed to educate the common man (like me). I appreciate your humble, straightforward presentation style. It, combined with your obvious knowledge, made me your newest subscriber.
@tmwilloughby
@tmwilloughby 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for responding to my comment and posting this video. Very helpful and informative as always!
@arfrost8806
@arfrost8806 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making that video Mike. Very informative as always!
@TractorMike
@TractorMike 9 жыл бұрын
+JT the Toy Tester Thank you JT and thanks for watching!
@webdis
@webdis 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. It was exactly what I needed.
@master6676
@master6676 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, like wow. Now I know what is missing from my 4'th hand tractor. I saw something in the manuals but couldnt tell it was turnbuckles. Found them right away with proper name. TYTYTY
@dwaynedelung2046
@dwaynedelung2046 4 жыл бұрын
That looked like the only way to do it without jury rigging something... glad you did this video so I'm not out there welding together a nuclear powered doo-dad to keep my arms off the tractor tires! Many thanks - simple, to the point, easy to understand, subscribed!
@fox202X
@fox202X 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike! I wondered why my box blade wasn't centered behind the wheels right!
@RangerRage69
@RangerRage69 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, I needed that quick lesson
@robbeiber837
@robbeiber837 8 жыл бұрын
I didn't notice on your tractor and you didn't mention it, but on my tractor, height matters. I have to raise the arms all the way up before adjusting. If I do it down low, the chains get tighter as I raise the arms up. When I lower them back down into position, the chains are a little loose, but not bad. The first time I adjusted them low, thankfully, I stalled the hydraulics and nothing got broke. Now I watch for it. Keep up the great videos!
@TractorMike
@TractorMike 8 жыл бұрын
Good point. I really hadn't noticed that before but I've seen stabilizer designs that could cause a problem that way. Thanks for bringing that up!
@DenIs-vm3wk
@DenIs-vm3wk 7 жыл бұрын
that happens when the chains are not connected in the same line with arms pins on rear axle; or the holes for the chains are worn out and connection point is out of that line. Tightening when lifting shouldn't be a "feature"
@lenwalker7393
@lenwalker7393 5 жыл бұрын
Helpful and practical. Thanks.
@steveash656
@steveash656 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Mike
@FAL0perator
@FAL0perator 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Thanks Mike!
@USNERDOC
@USNERDOC 9 жыл бұрын
Every video helps Mike . . . thank you!
@TractorMike
@TractorMike 9 жыл бұрын
+USNERDOC Thank you Doc. Thanks for watching!
@davidmacleod527
@davidmacleod527 3 жыл бұрын
very good video i need a set of those mike ;keep up the good work'
@ThePlowGuys
@ThePlowGuys 9 жыл бұрын
Damn that spike looks scary!. Great video Mike!
@TractorMike
@TractorMike 9 жыл бұрын
+The Plow Guys I fully expect to die by not watching where I'm walking and impaling myself on one of those. Not a good way to go, but appropriate perhaps.
@kevinf3642
@kevinf3642 2 жыл бұрын
There are indeed stabilizers for older Deere tractors. They are steel blocks that mount on both sides of the PTO housing that have two different thicknesses, depending which side of the block is turned. These work as spacers. This will keep your implement from swinging side to side as much, and keep the arms out of your tires (only when mounted to an implement). But no fine adjustment.
@thomasgregory8941
@thomasgregory8941 2 жыл бұрын
Correct.
@jefffrayer8238
@jefffrayer8238 Жыл бұрын
That's right. The sway blocks are missing from the J.D. and were used starting with the 730 series. You used spacers between blocks and housing to achieve correct sway. Worked great. ******** Also Tractor Mike forgot to warn that you must slowly raise the arms and make sure chains don't get too tight in full raised position. Expensive parts can get broke if you raise 3 pt. without checking first.
@rayhayden
@rayhayden 3 жыл бұрын
Dropping another LIKE on your video Mike! Watching and Supporting!
@andrewbrenneman3782
@andrewbrenneman3782 7 жыл бұрын
Mike, you missed some stabilizers from the past. My old 1959 John Deere 430 had a separate stabilizer that was like a "U" shape at one end connected to a "Y" shape. (Imagine the "U" in the saddle of the "Y" ). A bar connected that stabilizer to the tractor just above the PTO. Ford used an outside bar on one side that (sometimes both sides) to control implement sway.
@stanleynowak9325
@stanleynowak9325 3 жыл бұрын
Geez, I used to own a 1968 Massey Ferguson 165 and it had round solid bars with threaded rods to act as stabilizers. You could adjust them to center the implement on the tractor's center line. That's exactly what I did to center a Four Row Monosem MS vacuum planter on mine. Tractors with cabs sat on my farm while I precision planted. When you're planting onions you want to be able to get on and off the tractor easily to check if a shoe is clogged or if a spray nozzle is clogged, which it never was, but you do it if you're a perfectionist. As far as these chain and turnbuckle stabilizers, they only come on cheap tractors. If you need absolute stability get a tractor with tube stabilisers that screw in and out. I'm looking at this tractor, I don't know who makes it but it is about as cheap as you can get. GET A SOLID TUBE TELESCOPIC STABILIZER KIT AND BE HAPPY!
@petesmit33
@petesmit33 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent Mike thank you
@TractorMike
@TractorMike 9 жыл бұрын
+Peter Smith You're welcome, thanks for watching!
@jonskinner9812
@jonskinner9812 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks tractor Mike! Finally a good video
@txshirle
@txshirle 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I needed and you did it in less than 3 minutes. Well done.
@marccummings
@marccummings 2 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@bobbijopierce3934
@bobbijopierce3934 Жыл бұрын
Same for me!
@TheDadPenfield
@TheDadPenfield 7 жыл бұрын
You described the stabilizer chain's function to keep the lift arms from hitting the tires. That is the function of the check chains. Stabilizer bars keep your implement centered and moving from side to side. If you want your implement to move from side to side but need to check the travel so you don't hit the tires, like when pulling a plow, you use check chains. That old Ford tractor you showed looked like a thousand series tractor because it was blue. What you showed on that Ford were check chains. That tractor came with solid stabilizer bars that attach to stabilizer pins on one end and to the lower link implement pins on the other. Ford lift arms do not have holes in the lift arm for a stabilizer chain, though some people drill holes in them so they can attach stabilizer chains. If you are using your chains solely to prevent your lift arms from hitting your tires, you are using them as check chains, not stabilizer chains.
@TheDadPenfield
@TheDadPenfield 7 жыл бұрын
pat cheatham The check chains on the old blue tractor prevent your lift arms from swinging towards your tires. You might have to remove links depending on the height of your lift arms. For stabilizer chains you loosen them up so they allow movement, but still keep the arms from hitting the tires. But, unlike check chains, stabilizer chains must have an implement attached to the lift arms to limit the lift arm movement. With stabilizer chains the left chains prevent the right lift arm from hitting the right tire as long as you have bound the lift arms together with an implement. If you don't have an implement attached, then you use a bungee cord and tractor Mike had a bungee cord on his lift arms for that reason.
@VespinKnot
@VespinKnot 6 жыл бұрын
TheDadPenfield ok good now I don't have to type this lol
@hymugglee6236
@hymugglee6236 6 жыл бұрын
what implements do I use and not use the stabalizer bar on my ford? to keep it from swaying? on the ground lock it solid and in the ground let it sway?
@Internettumbleweed
@Internettumbleweed 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 601 workmaster, and I added a second bar so it could stop swaying to the left and when I lifted the 3pt up it bent the hell out of the new bar while the old bar stayed intact. I hadn’t run into this on my 8n so I’m not sure how to fix this
@danielslater4602
@danielslater4602 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you mike
@stayingawake20
@stayingawake20 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike. Would love to know how to adjust that bale spike with no hydraulic upper link. Keep up the good work!
@galehess6676
@galehess6676 9 ай бұрын
sit it on something, lower/raise, set it
@EveryCitizen
@EveryCitizen 9 жыл бұрын
My right ear is lonely :) j/k, another great installment. Thanks for the videos.
@TractorMike
@TractorMike 9 жыл бұрын
+EveryCitizen I'm trying to fix that. Our local Radio Shack was one of the ones that closed and the closest ones don't have the plug I need to go mono. I'll eventually get it done. Please apologize to your right ear for me in the interim.
@fabianmartinez3499
@fabianmartinez3499 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@budmoore8144
@budmoore8144 9 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO
@TractorMike
@TractorMike 9 жыл бұрын
+bud moore (buckshot32000) Thanks Bud and thanks for watching!
@Colbyhgreen
@Colbyhgreen 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike! Buying an old used tractor, I have several different piece-milled contraptions on my machine. These turnbuckles look efficient. I may scrap what I have and start over.
@MechanicMax
@MechanicMax 6 жыл бұрын
Could you give any advice on setting a plow for a wide wheel stance tractor. With stabilizers set as far to the right as I can get them, I am still leaving a spot of unturned soil. Wheels are set in as far as they will go as well. Tractor is a Mahindra 4025 4X4.
@blackwater2275
@blackwater2275 2 ай бұрын
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR GREAT VIDEOS. I HAVE A FORD 4000 SU, WHICH I HAVE TRIED DIFFERENT TYPES OF STABILIZER BARS, STABILIZER CHAINS. THE BARS, LET BE RAISE & LOWER MY HEAVY BUSH HOG, BUT ARE A "PAIN", BECAUSE MY DIFFERENT IMPLEMENTS VARY IN WIDTH. THE CHAINS, WITH THE JAM NUT, WILL NOT LET ME RAISE MY BUSH HOG, ETC. TO IT'S HIGHEST LIFT. I DON'T WANT TO HURT HYDRAULICS, OR DAMAGE THE ARMS. CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHAT TO DO, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT MOST GREATLY. THANKS.........
@ebnhahn1993
@ebnhahn1993 3 жыл бұрын
My Tractor (1982 IH 260A) have non adjustable chains. Box blade does not seem to be centered and swings side to side. It looks like I have to ADD these adjustable turnbuckles. Thanks for the Info.
@tcmits3699
@tcmits3699 Жыл бұрын
So if the threaded turnbuckles' center section also telescopes with pins you'd have the best of both worlds
@ChapelHillElectric
@ChapelHillElectric 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm tiring to put a snow / grade blade on my three point on the MF 1739E. I have the backhoe removed. The brackets of course stay. I can't find a place to hook my stabilizers. Do you think they sacrificed my connection points for the backhoe brackets ? Where should I hook them?
@orangefcat
@orangefcat 4 жыл бұрын
Mike: great stuff...I have a 1967 JD 2020 that needs your help. As shown in this video, there are several older tractors with no stabilizers. What do you suggest? I need to add something besides a rope or a bungee cord. My new box blade is heavy and swings too much.
@TractorMike
@TractorMike 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know of any kits to add stabilizers. I'd be trying to "blacksmith" something on there to keep everything from swinging.
@realitylicker
@realitylicker 5 жыл бұрын
Hey mike great channel - question i am suffering really bad with undulating soil when using the rake on the three way. Its a five foot rake i have it set about an inch lower than the level when at bottom stroke. I drive slowly through the sand yeah we live here in oz and the soil here is mostly sand we can grow things in it and we do but i need the rake for weeding and leaf gathering. I also try to use it for firebreak maintenance but like i said i keep getting these sand waves everywhere rather than nice neat flat raked areas...ideas please?
@TractorMike
@TractorMike 5 жыл бұрын
Waves from the tines of the rake or waves from the tractor driving over uneven terrain and digging/lifting the rake up with the three point? You might experiment with a field roller. That might work in sandy conditions to level everything out.
@realitylicker
@realitylicker 5 жыл бұрын
@@TractorMike will try that thanks for reply, will report back with results merry christmas
@theon_ean_donly
@theon_ean_donly 4 жыл бұрын
Crap my John deere tractor looks exactly like the one in the video it doesn't have a tensor but I wonder if I can adjust one to it.. anyone know?
@tomsommer54
@tomsommer54 4 жыл бұрын
This was exactly what I needed to know. Thank you. Do you tighten them so there is no swing at all, or do you leave a little bit of play? Thanks again.
@TractorMike
@TractorMike 4 жыл бұрын
Tom, I generally like to leave a very, very small bit of slack if I can. I have the telescopic stabilizers, it's impossible to get them completely tight, but if I had turnbuckles I'd leave maybe 1/4" slack.
@charlesdickerson9397
@charlesdickerson9397 7 жыл бұрын
I have an international b 414 tractor and i need to install stablizer bars i tried tractor supply to no avail is there another supply store's that possibility of having them i live in southeast Kansas.
@TractorMike
@TractorMike 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think you'll find something like that at a farm supply store like that. You have several Case dealers in your area, you might try them, but I don't have high hopes a part like that would still be available because of the age of the tractor. Here's a link to the Case IH parts lookup: partstore.caseih.com/us/parts-search.html#epc::mr57566ag58303. Youngberg's Supply in Verona, Missouri has an IH salvage yard and they might be able to help you. Here's their number: (417) 498-6511. Good luck!
@subwarpspeed
@subwarpspeed 9 жыл бұрын
The second type (turnbuckle), is it cheaper to buy? It's not like the telescopic version is drastically more expensive to produce, I guess. But the turnbuckle seem inferior to the telescopic. And those have been around since the 60ies (have it on a MF 175). So why would anyone want the turnbuckle variant?
@TractorMike
@TractorMike 9 жыл бұрын
+subwarpspeed That's a really good point. You wouldn't think the telescopic would cost much more. Most tractor companies offer deluxe tractors with telescopic and basic (cheaper) tractors and they lack a bunch of options to get the price down (see my video-Two Identical Sized Tractor, Why One is $3000 cheaper), so it may have more to do with marketing than anything. If I were a tractor company I'd offer a kit to convert the turnbuckles to telescopic and charge a hefty price for it, but most don't. It's a mystery. Same way with a mechanical linkage at the back of the tractor to raise and lower the three point from behind. When I first saw that option 25 years ago I figured by now all tractors would have it and they don't.
@triciahill216
@triciahill216 Жыл бұрын
Mike - I have a 7’ Enorossi sickle bar mower and am using it on a 65-HP tractor. The lower 3-point arms are set at equal heights from the ground; however, the mower leans quite a bit to the bar side when raised. Is this normal and acceptable or should I adjust the lower arms to level the mower even though one arm will be about 3” higher than the other arm? Thank you.
@TractorMike
@TractorMike Жыл бұрын
Tricia, I think that's normal. As long as the bar is level, you should be fine.
@billberry7269
@billberry7269 4 жыл бұрын
Mike, i have telescoping stabilizers on my Massey Ferguson and a Bush Hog brand bush hog. No matter how I adjust them, out/in, they hit my tires, especially on turns and on inclines. It seems to have gotten worse the last few times I cut. Which direction, pulling them out or pushing them in, stops that?
@TractorMike
@TractorMike 4 жыл бұрын
Bill, email a picture of the stabilizers and the model number of the tractor to mike@asktractormike.com and we'll see if we can't figure it out.
@billberry7269
@billberry7269 4 жыл бұрын
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@larrywatkins9612
@larrywatkins9612 6 жыл бұрын
I break at least one of my New Holland Stabilizer bars about every 10 hours. At $95 each, it's getting unbearably expensive. What am I doing wrong?
@BonafideToolJunkie
@BonafideToolJunkie 6 жыл бұрын
Larry Watkins. ..I own a New Holland workmaster 50, and I just got rid of the telescopic stabilizers. They were just too sloppy and noisy. Installed some turnbuckles that came off an 82 kubota. Had to modify it some, but not too difficult. Such an improvement.
@jimnowak3960
@jimnowak3960 5 жыл бұрын
We are not all as smart as you Luther. Maybe you should upload some videos.
@Gugernoot
@Gugernoot Ай бұрын
Left ear.
@lutherbryson1177
@lutherbryson1177 5 жыл бұрын
If you need to tell them that, they don't need a tractor.
@billiebruv
@billiebruv 3 ай бұрын
If these muppets can't figure this out themselves, they should not be operating tractors
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