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How to Bend Ubolts

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Simcoe Spring Service

Simcoe Spring Service

2 жыл бұрын

This is how to bend U-bolts. Use a VicRoc U-bolt bender. They are not a sponsor, but you can buy them here: www.vicroc.com/...
Even tho they are not a sponsor, I really enjoy using my VicRoc UB-302 U-bolt bender. We use ours every day and bend over 3000 U-bolts a year with it. This is how we use it to bend our custom made Ubolts from threaded rods.
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@fewtoes
@fewtoes 2 жыл бұрын
I would never have imagined that you could get a job shop type u-bolt machine! I'm pretty impressed with. I always imagined it was done in a far larger facility. This was pretty cool.
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 2 жыл бұрын
We love being able to make ubolts on demand. We sell around 3000-4000 ubolts a year.
@thomasglessner6067
@thomasglessner6067 2 жыл бұрын
Your dad spent money wisely. I always used a di-acro bender and it took muscle and time to get every one right. The tool was low cost but labor was high. Wish I had a machine like yours. Thanks for sharing.
@jamesappello386
@jamesappello386 2 жыл бұрын
Brings back memories of my youth! Bending u-bolts, the smell of burning Hendrickson walking beam bushings, etc. Good times!
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 2 жыл бұрын
you never forget the smell of burning rubber, I know I never will.
@141poolplayer
@141poolplayer 2 жыл бұрын
Don't know why this was in my recommendations but I enjoyed watching it. That's some pretty fancy footwork at around 5:37.
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. We are now processing through about 300 Ubolts a month so we do this about 1 day every week.
@zrathis
@zrathis 2 жыл бұрын
Scott love the video, made me laugh when you seemed a bit disappointed that you still find it interesting bending u-bolts. just the deep breath and almost a sigh as you said it still has me going.
@moondogdieselworks3883
@moondogdieselworks3883 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is the real deal!!! It takes a well engineered mindset to do work like that.
@generalmayhem9336
@generalmayhem9336 2 жыл бұрын
His other name is Bender. Featured in a very popular cartoon called Futurama.
@tcmits3699
@tcmits3699 2 жыл бұрын
I won't ever look at a "U-bolt" the same ever again. Worked in machine shop out of high school, made take out arms for glass bottle industry, I was young guy thinking "Who comes up with these machines" good video, thanks again!
@montimitchell5931
@montimitchell5931 2 жыл бұрын
New to the channel finding it very interesting Hello from Tennessee
@BL-jr8tk
@BL-jr8tk 7 ай бұрын
Having this done in La right now for an old piece of farm equipment. Couldn’t find the u-bolts anywhere. This is awesome!
@adeeponionbreath
@adeeponionbreath 2 жыл бұрын
Nice look into metal fabrication with Canadian tools!
@madeink
@madeink Жыл бұрын
영상 넘 멋집니다. 각각의 과정들이 잘 표현되어있습니다. 화질도 너무좋아서 계속보고싶네요^^ 감사합니다. 좋은 영상 올려주어서 화이팅입니다.
@Srdieselshawn
@Srdieselshawn 2 жыл бұрын
There is a shop 20 mins from me that made U-bolts from start to finish. I get my custom made pieces from them. They cut to length, put through a threading machine. If it’s a large enough diameter, it goes into a heater that heats them to red colour. Then it goes into a 1,000 ton press that squishes the center flat which allows easier bending in the same machine Scott is using. I’ve seen them bend rods without squishing flat also. It was pretty neat to watch. Especially when the press goes through it’s stroke. The floor shakes. 🤣
@Ebooger
@Ebooger 2 жыл бұрын
The flattened center area mentioned in the comments is a good feature, this prevents crimping the axle housing and, with the waffle gripper pattern feature, reduces slippage and weld breaking and/or housing "tears".
@seanfox9560
@seanfox9560 Жыл бұрын
I often use my die as a sizing reference if I’m really looking for tight tolerances I’ll grab a tape or caliper otherwise I reference my die!! 🎉
@irish-simon
@irish-simon 2 жыл бұрын
just an idea cut a scrap plate and make a go / no-go gauge and save more time great video by the way
@michaelwhitmore7160
@michaelwhitmore7160 2 жыл бұрын
yeah was thinking the same a plate with holes at spacing
@RustyorBroken
@RustyorBroken 2 жыл бұрын
Or make a tapered one that will check multiple sizes.
@jaygraham5407
@jaygraham5407 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when Wheeling Spring Service Co. in Wheeling WV got their cold u-bolt bender in the late 70's
@johnjarvis8185
@johnjarvis8185 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video. I would have thought that once you get the 1st U-bolt set to the proper size you would just run the rest as all the straight bolts are the same spec and hardness they would all bend the same way.
@thigtsquare950
@thigtsquare950 2 жыл бұрын
I remember setting up a 60 ton stamping press to bend u-bolts. We produced 3600 pieces per hour, long, long ago. My father bought a screw factory and I used to work there. My brother owns it now. I married and came to Canada.
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting to see a job-shop machine like that. Thanks very much.
@fredsasse9973
@fredsasse9973 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Seems theres a little "art" involved along with technical know-how.
@timstaton884
@timstaton884 2 жыл бұрын
that is a great machine on press end also
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I love this press, can't live without it.
@drewmurray2583
@drewmurray2583 2 жыл бұрын
I had to argue with my boss about buying new U bolts. He wanted to cut and weld the old ones to fit and I said "you're fucked" It only costs $250 for new ones and they come with new nuts and washers. We spent a day trying to remove the old ones before he gave up and let me order new ones from napa. I can use a measuring tape and read so it was no problem and could have saved us a day of work if he had of listened to me!
@servicetrucker5564
@servicetrucker5564 2 жыл бұрын
Bosses do that sometimes
@dnasberg
@dnasberg 2 жыл бұрын
couple of blocks of wood cut for go, no go might speed things along?
@theessexhunter1305
@theessexhunter1305 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, just 1 question why don't you set up a stop to work off for the centre line?
@DieselRamcharger
@DieselRamcharger 2 жыл бұрын
there is so much wasted time in this setup its not even funny.
@haynillesen
@haynillesen 2 жыл бұрын
There is a stop on the left
@theessexhunter1305
@theessexhunter1305 2 жыл бұрын
@@haynillesen That is what I made it out to be but looks like a place to hang the G clamps lol
@dmscheidtify
@dmscheidtify 2 жыл бұрын
@@DieselRamcharger Yes, lots of room for improvement. But remember, this isn't a machine that's designed for production use. It's a job machine, most of the users are going to be making at most four of the same size in a row, and very often only two. Setting up an end stop for every four bolts doesn't save much time.
@sleeptyper
@sleeptyper 2 жыл бұрын
Once you find that good setting for jaw width, why not stick with it for rest of the bolts?
@DieselRamcharger
@DieselRamcharger 2 жыл бұрын
Because hes clueless how the machine works.
@lukeporter8614
@lukeporter8614 2 жыл бұрын
@@DieselRamcharger that's not a fair assumption. I use this exact machine daily and sometimes to get the desired width on the first bend you need the outer rollers to be tight which causes flat spots on the sides of the bolts and makes them thinner. He also explained why he does it in the video if you watch it through.
@DieselRamcharger
@DieselRamcharger 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukeporter8614 he DID explain it. and i dont accept his explanation. i get it. trying to show the quality he puts into the product. i am however not convinced there is an functionable difference. just as setting the stop vs measuring to center on each bolt. time wasted. unless his supplier has irregular cut length. but i would handle that with my supplier not handicap my production to suite. i mean to each their own. Canada has the economy it does. For a reason.
@ophirb25
@ophirb25 2 жыл бұрын
And I thought you are going to teach us how to bent a u bolt without a wonderful machine like this...😀
@ricbarker4829
@ricbarker4829 2 жыл бұрын
What would be the result if you left the adjusting wheel where it was after bending a bolt and do the next one in one hit?
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 2 жыл бұрын
You can do this. It is mostly just a habit. I find it more important on the really thick ubolts. Ease them into the correct size. A little less stress on the steel.
@DieselRamcharger
@DieselRamcharger 2 жыл бұрын
@@simcoespring Same stress. same bend angle. relieving the rollers only makes it easier on the machine.
@co1urzz
@co1urzz 2 жыл бұрын
@@DieselRamcharger the rate is different
@DieselRamcharger
@DieselRamcharger 2 жыл бұрын
@@co1urzz lmao. no.
@babulalsharma7547
@babulalsharma7547 3 ай бұрын
Good
@donmunro144
@donmunro144 2 жыл бұрын
My local shop would always bend them a little tight, then rap the anvil to loosen it up. He said he did it that way to relieve the stress in the bolt. Don't know if it really makes a difference but it sounds good.
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 2 жыл бұрын
I almost always bend them too tight as well then just give them a tap to get it the right size. I don't know if it makes a difference it is just what works.
@gullreefclub
@gullreefclub 2 жыл бұрын
The old man who owned the shop I started working in when I was teenager taught me the same thing about bending them a little tight but instead of smacking them against the anvil he had a jigs (different ones for different sizes/styles) made up to slide the u-bolt that you bent a wack with a knockhronometer to spread end back out to “spec.” Additionally at that shop the owner would buy lengths of round bar stock and we had to cut them to length, face the ends off in the lathe and thread them before bending them.
@cheeseymccheese7249
@cheeseymccheese7249 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Had to for a fellow Canadian
@TerryasProjectone
@TerryasProjectone 2 жыл бұрын
VicRoc is actually base in Victoriaville, 2 hours east of Montreal.
@johnblecker4206
@johnblecker4206 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice Die set you have there.
@froat1
@froat1 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe make a gauge block for your common die sizes and just hang it with the die on you rack?
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 2 жыл бұрын
we just stared doing this yesterday and love it. Great suggestion.
@Adamsadventures83
@Adamsadventures83 2 жыл бұрын
I massage my rod up and down until it's perfectly shaped as well 🤣
@fgram801
@fgram801 3 ай бұрын
Question. I have Lippert 4,400lb. Tandem axles. I have a 6 leaf spring kit. I would like to put 3” lift blocks on. How long should my U-bolts be?
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 3 ай бұрын
We have Ubolts available for the corresponding lift blocks available on our website as well. Here is the link: simcoespring.com/products/ubolt-kit-for-trailer-lift-blocks?variant=46257403592872 Just select which Lift block you are installing, which axle diameter you have and which Ubolt diameter you wish to use. Everything there is auto-calculated to fit your suspension no matter which spring you have.
@DieselRamcharger
@DieselRamcharger 2 жыл бұрын
honestly no idea why you open the jaws after each bend. its a roller. set it to size and get with it.
@santiagomarca880
@santiagomarca880 2 жыл бұрын
Soy de Perú y trabajo haciendo esos pernos en U en cuadrado y semi curva se hacer todo el proceso desde la materia prima y la máquina que usamos para doblar es de lejos mucho mejor que la máquina q usan en el vídeo 😀
@Alan_Hans__
@Alan_Hans__ 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any advantage in massaging the u-bolt rather than doing in either 1 or 2 passes? A single pass would save you a bunch of time if you could do it in 1 go.
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 2 жыл бұрын
You could. However this size is fussy and easy to crush in the bender if you bring it in too close. So we bring it slowly into size so I have less waste.
@lukeporter8614
@lukeporter8614 2 жыл бұрын
Your machine looks almost new for its age. aours has many modifications and looks quite different to yours and is much, much slower.. not sure why. Perhaps management though it was dangerous for it to be moving so quick. Do your bolts come out with a twist in them that needs to be straightened? Depending on the bolt sometimes ours end up with about ¼ to ½ inch twist in them 🤷🏻‍♂️ Great vid nice to see how other people do them.
@lukeporter8614
@lukeporter8614 2 жыл бұрын
I'll have to see if I can send you through some pictures if you're interested.
@DivineMisterAdVentures
@DivineMisterAdVentures Жыл бұрын
Great show - but you're looking at a huge upswing in productivity with your first robot.
@markyelenoc9130
@markyelenoc9130 2 жыл бұрын
do you ever see any velvet ride
@nbrowser
@nbrowser 2 жыл бұрын
Canadian made rod and a Canadian made machine doing the work manned by a Canadian in Canada...sorry the proud Canuck in me is comin out!
@Graveltrucking
@Graveltrucking 2 жыл бұрын
Thats interesting, its that easy to make U bolts. It always been a struggle to get U bolts out here on the coast of BC. Then it costs an arm and a leg. When I needed U bolts for my F350 Superduty I was told dealer only item.
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 2 жыл бұрын
the dealerships can charge and arm and a leg. We recently got a quote from the dealership for a set of 4 ubolts and they wanted $250. which we think is very expensive. same set of 4 here was only $55 plus tax. Maybe I should start selling them on my website.
@Graveltrucking
@Graveltrucking 2 жыл бұрын
@@simcoespring I can't remember the exact price as it was couple years ago. The 4 u bolts were 300 plus.
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 2 жыл бұрын
that is way too much. I wish there was a selector program that would let me easily translate my 10,000 different shapes and sizes into an easy to select from website. Pick your shape, pick your rod, pick your length. I already ship to all of north America. Something to think about. Sounds like an epic project.
@Hyratel
@Hyratel 2 жыл бұрын
@@simcoespring some webstore front ends let you select multiple parameters, so you could pick both Profile and Diameter, and have a line-draw chart in the item-gallery for the different profiles
@jenniferjelke2502
@jenniferjelke2502 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like an older “Bender” from Futurama. 😀
@guytech7310
@guytech7310 2 жыл бұрын
Aghhh. I thought this was a video about bending u-bolts straight! /sarc You really need to get a Rodriguez bender bot. Works for beer. /sarc {Futurama}
@ARC928
@ARC928 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed you bend it in several steps, Can't the press do it in one go?
@nathanielreid4967
@nathanielreid4967 2 жыл бұрын
@yuttana5336
@yuttana5336 2 жыл бұрын
what you show It's very helpful to us. How do you iron the threads? What grade of steel do you use?
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 2 жыл бұрын
3/8", 7/16", 1/2" and 9/16" are all grade 5 rod. 5/8", 3/4", 7/8" and 1" are all Grade 8 rods. we don't use metric Ubolt rods we purchase the rods already cut to length and with the threads cold rolled already. this is the company we get them from and how they are made kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jLWAnpR10LWsm30.html
@elguapo3527
@elguapo3527 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’d say fascinating too. Lucky your dad taught you, probably many lessons.
@davidhall4845
@davidhall4845 2 жыл бұрын
cool
@bigears4014
@bigears4014 2 жыл бұрын
Why measure it constantly drill a piece of plate as a template far easier
@MegaBCAD
@MegaBCAD 2 жыл бұрын
Dose that machine do something else seams very large relatively simple and low power operation
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes. The main body is my 100 ton press and the ubolt bender is attached to the back of it as an option when you purchase the unit.
@ricbarker4829
@ricbarker4829 2 жыл бұрын
@@simcoespring That's a relief. I was thinking what a huge outlay such a machine would be JUST to d U bolts.
@watajob
@watajob 2 жыл бұрын
Craftsmanship with pride...👍
@TraderBlu
@TraderBlu 8 ай бұрын
Where would I be able to buy the die set from? (to make the u-bolts) thanks
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 8 ай бұрын
Vicroc in Montreal makes the bender and the dies
@TraderBlu
@TraderBlu 8 ай бұрын
Thank you @@simcoespring
@ernsailor9041
@ernsailor9041 2 жыл бұрын
Surely a go no go piece of steel with 2 holes would be much faster and removes any chance of a mistake.
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 2 жыл бұрын
we can bend up 10,000 different sizes and we usually bend 2, 4 or 8 at a time so mostly not worth making up a plate for each job. however in group batches like this, not a bad idea.
@ernsailor9041
@ernsailor9041 2 жыл бұрын
@@simcoespring I may well be wrong but you only bend as many sizes as the dies and rollers do. The variety and quantity are definitely good reasons though. 👍 What about an adjustable gauge?
@NothingButLifts
@NothingButLifts 2 жыл бұрын
Any idea on how much their ubolt bender cost?
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 2 жыл бұрын
Any prices I have would be from 2019. Not very accurate anymore
@NothingButLifts
@NothingButLifts 2 жыл бұрын
@@simcoespring I wish they listed pricing. Can’t find anything online
@bebo5558
@bebo5558 2 жыл бұрын
Once you get the roller arms set, can it be done in one shot/stroke?
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 2 жыл бұрын
it can. First time doing a massive production run. Usually do 4 or 8 at a time.
@bebo5558
@bebo5558 2 жыл бұрын
@@simcoespring 👍Thanks!
@tekniklogam5726
@tekniklogam5726 2 жыл бұрын
Alat nya sudah maju
@khalidhussainhussain7035
@khalidhussainhussain7035 7 ай бұрын
Hello
@carloseufragio5131
@carloseufragio5131 2 жыл бұрын
Calidad de empresa , en que estado están ubicados?
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 2 жыл бұрын
Nosotros somos de ontario canada
@carloseufragio5131
@carloseufragio5131 2 жыл бұрын
Que bien, me puedes ayudar con algún contacto para comprar camiones para Yonkers, yo vendo usado en Honduras.
@majorpayne5289
@majorpayne5289 2 жыл бұрын
👍Good stuff. (SUBd)
@mikeadler434
@mikeadler434 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@paulcoulter7181
@paulcoulter7181 2 жыл бұрын
I would get a chair or a stool to sit on so not to bend your back to much.
@brad9529
@brad9529 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised there isn't a U bolt shortage because of covid.
@simcoespring
@simcoespring 2 жыл бұрын
There is.
@brad9529
@brad9529 2 жыл бұрын
@@simcoespring well of u don't have covid then where's the shortage 🤷🏼‍♂️
@TM15R
@TM15R 2 жыл бұрын
Why not make one complete bend, non stop? It should end up the same..
@RHTbluetrokadriver
@RHTbluetrokadriver 2 жыл бұрын
Rad🤙
@jeremycanning8934
@jeremycanning8934 2 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean how to bend bolts into U-bolts
@bossman6174
@bossman6174 3 ай бұрын
Put them in a nice package and charge $25 for it.
@rockfish1430
@rockfish1430 2 жыл бұрын
No wonder they cost TOO MUCH
@valkman761
@valkman761 Жыл бұрын
There needs to be a better way to do this. So much waste in each step.
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