How to bore an engine with a boring bar

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kevin miller

kevin miller

12 жыл бұрын

Engine-guru.com presents a video demonstration how to to bore your engine. If you have any questions and are in the Grand Rapids Michigan area call 616-430-3114 ask for KYLE

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@DebtFreeCars
@DebtFreeCars 10 жыл бұрын
I wished you showed us how the machine was set up.
@paulprecht9786
@paulprecht9786 8 жыл бұрын
The bar is centered with the cat's paws at the top where there is no cylinder wear, the cutter is installed after the centering. The cutter is set up in the micrometer tool for the bore size. There are 5 sets of cat's paws from small to big depending on the bore size.
@1984excalibur
@1984excalibur 5 жыл бұрын
First job out of HS in ‘64, Eastern Engine in Brooklyn, NY .. learned with Van Norman BB... looks like same one...also used Kwikway but preferred van Norman...bored every thing from a Brockway to a flat head ...wet sleeves, heavy wall sleeves etc...even used the infamous “sucker-outer on truck engines still under the hood...Thanks for posting. Brings back some great memories
@thomasleclair7418
@thomasleclair7418 Жыл бұрын
,,,,,,At 71 now ,,, I was born in Brooklyn NY,,,,,I knew of Bobby Lombardi of Eastern Automotive on the south end of Coney Island ave. ,,,,,,,,He was a great drag racer..........did you ever hear of Eastern Automotive
@baddonkey6876
@baddonkey6876 2 жыл бұрын
We had that same machine back when i was a kid and my stepdad still built engines, facinating machine to set up
@elbertpearsall1936
@elbertpearsall1936 2 жыл бұрын
I used one of these quite often it was awesome and did pretty work.
@jeffdiamond3900
@jeffdiamond3900 6 жыл бұрын
we just got an old rottler portable ourselves. when you overbore do you deduct amount for finish honing?
@aliaseldombensobarsmith4982
@aliaseldombensobarsmith4982 6 жыл бұрын
How deep can u go with one of those I have a tractor engine block that needs the cam Chanel bored out for a sleeve
@thelineman43
@thelineman43 11 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing your video. i found out what i needed to know from it. i'm going to my local machine shop and let them do what you did.
@Jayjay42023
@Jayjay42023 4 жыл бұрын
How much does something like this usually cost and what is the purpose and benefits of this. I heard people talking about this so I figured I would look it up
@guillermolopez583
@guillermolopez583 8 жыл бұрын
i wish you was close by, got my cylinder in the dealer service getting bored but I been waiting since 3 weeks :(
@figibloom
@figibloom 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good demonstration. I was curious about how you centered the boring bar in the cylinder. Does that boring bar have a three finger centering mechanism built in or something like that to get perfectly centered? Also how does the boring bar mount to the engine block? Does it have an anchor that slips in to another cylinder to tighten down? Well thanks for the video and have a good day.
@larryandteresa8861
@larryandteresa8861 9 жыл бұрын
AJ Pierce You're right ! : )
@george_3264
@george_3264 9 жыл бұрын
Good question, I'd like to know this too
@francoisbrand7464
@francoisbrand7464 6 жыл бұрын
another method used is putting a dial indicator on the tooling bit and turning it around till the gauge reads the least run out- then attach the cutting bit. Not sure if thats how the norman works but u get the idea-
@TheZazProductions
@TheZazProductions 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!! Always wanted to know how this was done :)
@supersevenn
@supersevenn 11 жыл бұрын
Honing is similar but you dont really cut material, you shave it off and leaves a fine finish. To bore and engine .040 you really want to cut it at .038 and with the hone you take off the last .002 It also provides the crosshatch pattern so that the ring will seat properly when the engine is started. Look for videos. theres a bunch on honing
@oldamericaniron5767
@oldamericaniron5767 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same boring bar, haven’t used it in years but it always did a great job.
@conflowstrategic
@conflowstrategic Жыл бұрын
wanna sell it?
@oldamericaniron5767
@oldamericaniron5767 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but no.
@conflowstrategic
@conflowstrategic Жыл бұрын
I didn’t figure but had to ask.
@rotimiadebowale1583
@rotimiadebowale1583 Жыл бұрын
Can you sell for me?
@TikiToyLabs
@TikiToyLabs 11 жыл бұрын
How did you center the boring bar?
@butterfly21kissez
@butterfly21kissez 11 жыл бұрын
this is an awsome video for the noob ,i personally have a 965 .butt would it be possible to post a video of the setup everyone starts video with bar ready to go. i got all that but the attachment to block i dont know how to do. i know it has something to do with the peice that slides in the back but beyond that i have no idea.
@jamesabond636
@jamesabond636 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a small unit made for say a single cylinder kohler block ??
@GerardoHernandez-hd7fo
@GerardoHernandez-hd7fo 8 жыл бұрын
40 over means 1mm right? In metric
@LuisAndrade-dy4in
@LuisAndrade-dy4in 10 жыл бұрын
looks awesome I did,nt know I machine like that existed!!
@guillermolopez583
@guillermolopez583 8 жыл бұрын
do you bore 2 stroke dirtbike cylinder?
@dadybig6522
@dadybig6522 8 жыл бұрын
good job where. can i by one need it
@alientech2010
@alientech2010 11 жыл бұрын
do you know where i can get the expandable jaws for the van norman 777 theres 4 off them
@1AMERICANWORKER
@1AMERICANWORKER 10 жыл бұрын
I built a similar boring set-up with an automatic feed I copied from a mini lathe. The Van Norman is ok for a street engine but for a racing engine you need to locate and hold position from the main bearing center line. My machine has a massive bar that clamps in by the main caps. Holes in the bar hold a pilot for the boring bar that is centered with dial indicators. My machine is overkill for most jobs as the set-up time is considerable but for my racing engines I get the accuracy of a super expensive machine with a homemade one cobbed together in my back yard machine shop.
@dantheman1998
@dantheman1998 9 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of a machine very similar to this! I was thinking of a plate that bolts to the mains with a hole centered on the bore for the boring bar to travel. Yours is probably a much better idea. I would LOVE to see a pic of it or a movie in action!
@1AMERICANWORKER
@1AMERICANWORKER 9 жыл бұрын
dantheman1998 At the end of the season my son and I both decided to run in the crate motor classes and sold the machine to help pay for the G.M. 602 motors. 602 is the part # for these factory sealed 350 engines.
@daranleighton9813
@daranleighton9813 6 жыл бұрын
Do you have plans or sketches?
@stancarson5039
@stancarson5039 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like bullshit to me.
@j4k3z
@j4k3z 2 жыл бұрын
Nice try 😁
@ronbz455
@ronbz455 9 жыл бұрын
What about lube???
@majorsparkles5133
@majorsparkles5133 9 жыл бұрын
That was awesome.
@rotimiadebowale1583
@rotimiadebowale1583 Жыл бұрын
I can I get this particular boring bar to purchase even if it is used one.thanks.
@khurramali007
@khurramali007 4 жыл бұрын
please show how to set up the machine
@enginedoctor1
@enginedoctor1 11 жыл бұрын
Yes we do leave a few thousands and finish hone the cylinder .
@TX97SR20DET
@TX97SR20DET 12 жыл бұрын
Interesting machine. Great videos. My local Texas machine shop charges $12.50 to bore an individual cylinder + hone it.
@hassanalbaraznchy3922
@hassanalbaraznchy3922 6 жыл бұрын
TREY CARVALHO please price by $....sir
@jameshester1450
@jameshester1450 2 жыл бұрын
I charge 25 4-cylinder and that's based on a 70 and that's based on 1971 prices
@arifs2675
@arifs2675 2 жыл бұрын
that was so satisfying
@cagmito76
@cagmito76 12 жыл бұрын
boring is cutting of cylinder to match piston size . honing is done after cutting/boring and but a cross hatching pattern on cylinder wall .
@matthewstorm5188
@matthewstorm5188 2 жыл бұрын
Both boring and honing cut a cylinder to match piston size. Boring can cut a whole lot more material, so boring is used to cut away the bulk of the material. Boring also restores straightness and roundness to a cylinder that may be tapered and out of round due to wear. Honing, on the other hand, is a finishing operation which generates the proper crosshatch pattern for oil retention. This operation DOES require the removal of material. Therefore, a cylinder is bored to a little less than final diameter. And the remainder of the material is removed by honing.
@scumdog88
@scumdog88 12 жыл бұрын
fine job top shelf!
@compasstrans
@compasstrans Жыл бұрын
Can this machine bore a blind hole cylinder?
@blakemoir8170
@blakemoir8170 12 жыл бұрын
What kind of place could i find someone who can bore a motor, i want my atv engine bored
@postmortemspasm
@postmortemspasm 8 жыл бұрын
Ive never heard "50 years old" and "very reliable" in the same sentence hahaha
@KyleEbright
@KyleEbright 8 жыл бұрын
+Dadul Ludad Can't say that about a harbor freight tool lol.. They don't make them how they used to. Now it's all about share holder and corporate greed, max profits... Everything is more expensive than ever, but made with worse quality. Tools that is
@CurrentlyObsessively
@CurrentlyObsessively 7 жыл бұрын
Can you recommend a good place to purchase a used boring bar? I'm on a tight budget but I would like one for my garage projects.
@johndanz9478
@johndanz9478 4 жыл бұрын
I just obtained a used one from the shop i work at and if you are still interested we can talk about a good price
@bamf6396
@bamf6396 10 жыл бұрын
thumbs up bc I live just outside grand rapids
@ShnitzlHaus
@ShnitzlHaus 11 жыл бұрын
I am also very interested in seeing this done, and when you bore out to lets say 40 over do you go to exactly 40 or do you do 38 and leave a few thou for honing?
@aaronpeople101
@aaronpeople101 7 жыл бұрын
ShnitzlHaus that's what you should do
@TheirsHopewithJesusChrist_277
@TheirsHopewithJesusChrist_277 4 жыл бұрын
Always leave a few thousands for honing the cylinder
@kristijankutlesa3060
@kristijankutlesa3060 Жыл бұрын
Odlicno gdje se moze nabavit
@onehot57
@onehot57 2 жыл бұрын
Rottler is my chose!
@adddad9779
@adddad9779 6 жыл бұрын
Newbie here... Just curious if it would be better to do two 20 thou cuts vs. one 40 thou cut. Thx!
@Moparmaga-1
@Moparmaga-1 5 жыл бұрын
Its a case by case basis. Your machinist will tell you what will need to be cut & never will suggest overkill
@enginedoctor1
@enginedoctor1 11 жыл бұрын
We will be doing a video on how to set up a Van Norman 777 there are no info you can not have.
@tripd4949
@tripd4949 2 жыл бұрын
this is the easy part, I would donate you money to show the setup.
@hassanalbaraznchy3922
@hassanalbaraznchy3922 6 жыл бұрын
Please ...price$..?
@PhillyDee215
@PhillyDee215 3 жыл бұрын
Nice 👌
@W1LDWESLEY
@W1LDWESLEY 9 жыл бұрын
would you have two change the piston size in all cylinder?
@kefka893
@kefka893 9 жыл бұрын
yes
@aaronpeople101
@aaronpeople101 7 жыл бұрын
Wesley Groth you could put a sleeve in that cylinder if you were trying to retain the original bore size
@enginedoctor1
@enginedoctor1 11 жыл бұрын
We will be doing a how to set up video in a few weeks.
@microfarmers
@microfarmers 4 жыл бұрын
Whose we? Lol I liked your video!
@meyawabdulaziz3863
@meyawabdulaziz3863 10 жыл бұрын
sweet
@pietlottering9793
@pietlottering9793 7 жыл бұрын
How can I take the cutting head off from my van normam
@HoaTran-ft6cl
@HoaTran-ft6cl 5 жыл бұрын
8
@scumdog88
@scumdog88 12 жыл бұрын
how fucking cool is this!!!!!
@johnswiecki
@johnswiecki 11 жыл бұрын
I think it's a great advertisement. I also wanted to learn how to do it myself...but at $15 a hole?!?! Just pay the man. I think that's a steal!
@motogpracebikes
@motogpracebikes 7 жыл бұрын
Besides not showing the set up for people to see, you didn't engage the ' catspaws ' until the cutter was way below the deck. As soon as they were coming close to the deck they should've been already engaged with the sidewalls of the cylinder!!
@cdeprima1209
@cdeprima1209 6 ай бұрын
Good job, now you can stroke it! :)
@SVSomeday
@SVSomeday 8 жыл бұрын
Are you still boring engines?
@supersevenn
@supersevenn 11 жыл бұрын
actually....honing is a mix between scrathcing and polishing. like a brillo pad does. gives the bore a fine smooth finish with a crosshatch scrathcing pattern. kinda hard to explain really. lol
@jameshester1450
@jameshester1450 2 жыл бұрын
You have to leave three to five thousand still home to get through the metal fracture from the cutting tool
@AapPranata
@AapPranata Жыл бұрын
Asoy kresek piston ring cld
@jameshester1450
@jameshester1450 2 жыл бұрын
My first-born bar was Van Norman 777s the s meaning sucker outer if you don't believe me research it
@XxThatGuyxX
@XxThatGuyxX 7 жыл бұрын
this video is "boring" haha no. this is a good video thanks.
@ronbz455
@ronbz455 9 жыл бұрын
Mike Pm me on Buick block work. It needs to be right!!!
@stustockwell
@stustockwell 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit... $15 a hole! CHEAP!!!
@mercman2.5
@mercman2.5 Жыл бұрын
Would have been much better to have seen set-up
@Kaegis
@Kaegis 6 жыл бұрын
$15 a bore, that's cheap as. It's around $60 a cylinder over here. Some people are asking $100 a cylinder.
@Moparmaga-1
@Moparmaga-1 5 жыл бұрын
4 years ago I think this video was made
@MrTeachYa
@MrTeachYa 12 жыл бұрын
Its a V8 15 times 8 is 120. he just didn't show the whole block is all :)
@TheMetalUnborn
@TheMetalUnborn 8 жыл бұрын
Man! This video was.. boring*
@Millwork1075
@Millwork1075 8 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@pacepaceman
@pacepaceman 12 жыл бұрын
$15 a hole i see 3 holes so that would be $45, where did $120 come from?
@whiplashmachine
@whiplashmachine 3 жыл бұрын
It's a v8 Chevy engine.
@robstuckey
@robstuckey 8 ай бұрын
$15 a hole!!!! 🥰
@keensweep
@keensweep 9 жыл бұрын
I expected more boring jokes.
@Millwork1075
@Millwork1075 8 жыл бұрын
This video is boring
@Reach3DPrinters
@Reach3DPrinters 4 жыл бұрын
That was the 'hole' point.
@edge2sword186
@edge2sword186 5 жыл бұрын
Kwik Way is a far better boring bar that cat's paw is not the best way to locate the cutter .I have seen those bars leave cylinders going every which direction . Spend an extra dollar to do it right .Buy a Kwik way boring bar .
@Moparmaga-1
@Moparmaga-1 5 жыл бұрын
Shut up, your opinion is nothing
@stancarson5039
@stancarson5039 4 жыл бұрын
Some more bullshit.
@donnieharris6306
@donnieharris6306 8 жыл бұрын
they didn't really show shit
@Warpull
@Warpull 8 жыл бұрын
+Donnie Harris yea cuz he'e advertising
@donnieharris6306
@donnieharris6306 8 жыл бұрын
warpull aw ok
@jackstrife9158
@jackstrife9158 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't really show or explain anything just showed the boring bar in use but no instruction on setup or how much was taken off. Not a very good "How to" video.
@tklee7
@tklee7 9 жыл бұрын
You work too cheap.
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