Exactly..

Yep… it was OBVIOUS he was a grifter from the moment we learned that his Twitter bio said “Work less; earn more!” The clarion call of the get rich quick scam artist…! 🙄🙄🙄

Ya dude probably payed to be on the show. He is a media buyer not an agency owner lol

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been following your content on IG for a while and now this! Absolutely amazing to see two awesome design school of thought together and thanks for sharing your experience with the world. Keep up the great work and hope to hear more valuable content like this in the future :)

Good to see you collabing Rich

Thanks for sharing

Thanks for sharing your story with us

Idk man, just getting coach vibes here, show Portfolio

This!!! Like stop talking over people and ask more conversational questions. I think had he let him finish his statements the guest would have provided a really good conversation.

I agree! Specially with the first point

Yeah this guy clearly doesn't make $500k with his agency so he must be grifting for course sales

it is odd how his site shows 3 projects, is badly designed and unprofessional, has no 'about' copy or agency philosophy, and half of his listed clients are non profits.

This guy obviously sell courses and design / marketing couch

I really don’t want to be mean or anything but how an agency making so much money can have such a low website in term of UI? Not even mentioning the projects showcase in the website.

Maybe the game hasn't changed after all.

I looked at your site. It’s fantastic. And you sound genuine. I think you’ll do great. This guy didn’t pass the sniff test and his website is godawful.

Felt the same and not to mention their official page and their works are just more of an amatuer type of designs and it raises a question whether did people really paid thousands of dollars for that types of low quality design? Edit: I was just curious and checked the code and found out that they just used a template from a website builder

We're entering the era of the fake "one man million dollar business". He's just following the formula from Brett from "designjoy": Step 1 : Create an online business with "meh" designs. Step 2: Claim to make hundreds of thousands of dollars being a solo business. Step 3: Do a bunch of PR such as appearing in Flux, The Futur and other channels. Step 4: Repeat step 2-4 until enough people believe what you're doing is possible. Step 5: Wait 1 Year until you have an audience and sell a course on how to do what you claim to do in the most general and superficial way possible so it becomes ambiguous wether you're a snake's oil salesman or not. Step 6 : Buy a Porsche.

@@zerpakia honestly thank you for debunking. This comment brought a lot of clarity lol

the best product usually isn't the most sold product. The best marketed product is. As long as your customers believe you is the best for them, doesn't mean you need to be the best overall. I will say though, I have said this to myself 1 million times, but actually believing it is hard :)

Because he's a scammer

Probably great business dev and sales skills compared to most creative people doing it alone.@@mattm7426

Could be a scammer though, who knows. What makes you say that?

People need to realize everything online is an illusion. Just work on getting better as a designer, share your work and give people value (Tips, tricks etc). It doesn't happen over night but with time you'll see clients come to you vs you hunting them down.

Yeah a little too much of his own thoughts forced in there but I guess it's more a podcast then an interview? Not sure if that makes a difference tho lol

Not exactly, what about paying all the contractors that work with you?

@@yofi2614 I was calculating revenue per client, revenue minus expenses will give you profit.

@@KirTitov gotchya

That's an insane amount for a project? I wonder what kind of websites they are. Surely not Webflow marketing sites?

Agreed. I am curious too about the profit as $500k could mean $100k profit if you're paying contractors well etc...

@@designanddevelop585 There's a fine balance between doing everything yourself (and keeping your gross minus expenses) or sharing the load (meaning increasing prices, and moreover, dealing with a different level of clientele) is something I haven't yet mastered. I'm a bit of a control freak, so I do like to have my hand in the final product... though I don't want to be a micro manager. But doing everything else means I'm the only one who can take the blame if it goes wrong (or credit if everything goes right). I work in a very competitive market. There are lots of designers and while I don't fight for the bottom of the barrel, I do have to be sensitive to the cost-consciousness of our local clientele. Working in Webflow has certainly helped my output, but I have to be VERY careful explaining to clients that I use webflow to build projects much more quickly WITHOUT giving the impression that "Webflow is much easier, so I can milk you for more money". The main problem with working by myself is... I am not an expert in everything. So I can't be a full service shop on my own. I get by with design (and I do have a freelance designer that I'm trying out), development and on-page SEO. But I can't offer marketing services like off-page SEO, Social Media or SEM without simply recommending other local businesses to do that. It IS hard to make money when you're sending your clients somewhere else, and it COULD be inconvenient to the client to have to deal with multiple agencies for all of this stuff. BUT I do ok money-wise, and I can work my own hours. I'm just REALLY REALLY busy all the time. :)

You have to offshore labor in order to scale due to wages and taxes.

@@crooker2 just get a couple of marketing interns lol (thats a joke, dont O_O)

Crooker - hey i run an agency doing roughly 120k per year - 95% profit. Mind if i shoot you an email as im looking to take on a bit more work? Ralph -Novatur Design

It was bugging me too! glad i wasnt the only one to notice!

haha! I'm so bad at this!

He was rambling on for hours though. He had to jump in at some point.

I think im gonna make a video on this. I used to call out shopify grifters and quit but these dudes make me wanna get back into it lol

@@brotherhood5735 do it much needed in this space for sure

Why?

Video

@@yofi2614 cool

Sales

​@@brianm3160 If I was a serious company and I saw a website like this, I wouldn't pay a penny. And the guy earns 10x more than the average designer :)

@@ukaszwrobel1145 he probably has good client feedback and track record

@@brianm3160 good for him, but its unfair.

Skills, Results, and Sales are all different things. To succeed you need all 3. Skills is only 15% of the job. Results are 50% and Sales are 35%. You're not looking at whether something looks pretty or not, that's not design, that's just a part of design. You're looking at whether it achieved its goal. And he does exactly that.

I'm glad someone else mentioned this. we have come here to receive the expertise of the interviewee, the host talking over him just throws off the flow of the conversation and is quite annoying. Let Him Cook!

@@softwareEngineerGuy, for real. I opened this video only cause I know the guest. Instead, had to listen to this dumbass host who just can’t shut the hell up.

Even da vinci learned by copying, whether one becomes a master or not depends on a psychologically disorder level of forsaking all else, genetics and luck. Masters are masters because their art is their master.

Did he say that? I think it was said when you're starting out that's a good way to learn

That is why nobody will remember your name@@JeffBarron1

He hires 5$ Indians and Filipinos from Fiverr to do all this