I signed up and look into and it's solid. I found out about it through Spline. My question is can I use spline and shopify together? I run a bigger project so it sounds like framer is not the way to go.

you want to use framer for small business sites and webflow for large business site. the only difference right now is the CMS. if you are already using a 3rd party CMS intergration, it doens't really matter. I use both and prefer framer becase I dont have to worry webflow server being down. and not being able to work. I also hate webflow nick picking everything thing and chargin where in framer I can get most things for free. theirs also a way to publish your framer site and an app with out redoing everything. it makes it easier to have a holistic enviornment when clients change the roadmap

You can do both! But I recommend mastering 1 tool first, rather than being 50% at both - thats how youll give your clients the most value

@@ArnauRos that’s great advice! Definitely think I’ll start with framer since that fits the business model of quick and easy websites for clients.

​@@TravelleMcManushi, I've been moving things around to start an agency myself. In case you're open to collaborate or at least explore the possibilities, it'll be great to connect and discuss. Thanks

you should learn the basic first this is copy paste shit.. learn html and css first.. the real thing

Don't you need your clients to sign up for a framer account in order to hand over a site to them?

Noted!

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This is true because the AI just churns out nonsense.

Framer AI couldnt be more trash. I mean its literaly useless. Just a buzz, no real use at all

Lets see how it develops in the future!

Obviously all Ai development will get better fast. Question is who is ahead of the trend and competition.

I think its naturally the course it will take seeing as its a cheaper option. People will use it as much as they can until they need something with more complexity. I'd use it for a simple site, but wouldn't for a webapp or ecom - who knows if that'll change too in the future

Framer is killer at SEO, also Framer is really good for large multi pages sites, whoever says it isn't really doesn't have a lot of experience with Framer.

@@ArnauRos Ecom works in Framer and Web apps do too, not sure where these assumptions are coming from?

Sure! In comparison to Webflow though it still has some catching up to do, I wouldnt personally host a huge project on it just yet

@@itslocane412 in my experience using webflow ecomm I think Shopify was still light years ahead with integrations and all that. This was about two years ago tho

Glad it was helpful!

Glad to hear that! What software will you be using now?

Thank you! Will do!

Personally I'll keep using Webflow for 99% of my workflows, however would you use framer if you needed a single landing page? I feel like the prices in Webflow is too high for a simple lander

Introduction of AI within webflow looks mighty impressive

Thats coming soon as well, lots of AI!

Glad it was helpful!

Thanks :)

Much appreciated!

This makes complete sense to me! Learning webflow is learning another language, going to Framer from Figma is much easier for beginners - Figma should really add that 'publish' button

@@ArnauRos That would be a real gamechanger!

Yep i feel it too! Luckily its a cheaper plan for a small site than what webflow would charge, so I see that as a positive for now. Who knows if they'll increase the prices once they have a better ecom setup?

More to come!

It depends on the client, sometimes we host it sometimes we pass it on to them to host it.

Hey, not sure what you mean here

You can definitely do that! All sites come with a 'free' version, where you can publish having the .framer domain.

@@ArnauRos Great, thank you for the answer!

Hey, theyre both quite different softwares, framer is trying to be a one stop shop for designers in terms of website/development. Protopie is more of a mockup/prototype software for some of the biggest industries out there, like cars and apps etc. Let me know if that makes sense!

in spain!

Most of these yes!

They have changed their product quite a bit in recent years, now they're more of a competitor with Webflow/Figma workflow :)

Framer is a solid option! I personally use webflow, but you could use framer for a portfolio

Noted!

yeah 100%

you can do everything in framer if you want! Figma is a design system, so you can use it to design, framer to build if you'd like

Depends on the sites you want to build. What are you looking to create?

@@ArnauRos How bout client sites for businesses in the construction industry?

yep!

Nice input! I wonder how others feel about this too

Framer pivoted to a React SPA website builder. It's not an impression. But since you add custom React code it's quite powerful

You can most probably create an affiliate site using framer!

You would have to talk to them about that 😅

nope!

Thank you!

Figma is always a great starting point !

hey not sure what you mean by prototypes

Thanks!

Sure thing :)

hahaha yes! Jaume Ros

I dont think they’re there yet! You might be able to, but it hasnt been tried and tested many times before

@@ArnauRos Thank you Arnou for the quick response. I think I’ll go with Webflow then! Keep up the great work.

What do you mean?

@@ArnauRosSEO CONTENT , google referencing

I understand what SEO is, but I'm asking, what do you want mean about it? Are you asking if Framer is a good tool for it, if you can look for keywords, if theres ai seo features, or if it just has seo capabilities built in? etc etc If you're just asking about framer's seo capabilities: www.framer.com/features/seo-performance/

depends!

The client would cover that cost most times

Not necessarily, you can design in framer in their ‘canvas’

@@ArnauRos Gotcha, So when i do the copy and paste from figma to framer, for some reason in the published site, it crops off the graphics.. Do you have to Insert all the sections and copy and paste the assets made in figma so that the site can appear full screen when published?

sure!

not sure!

Framer is a great simple solution for that, quite cheap too. You can get a template and quickly launch a site within the day

I think many people feel the same, subscriptions are kind of a pain nowadays

Do you mean a template through framer or do you mean how can you get a client that wants to use framer?

Its a web development tool more than just design, so it helps designers immensely

i understand! Yeah it was a video quite geared towards my usual audience that uses webflow on the daily. If you're more of a custom dev then Framer could also apply, if you need something quick out there then why not use framer you know?

Sure! You can find my email in the about section of my channel

Hey! I appreciate your comment, and you're not coming off as prickish at all. I believe it's these conversations that lead us to better content and growth :) 1. About your first point, it's true Figma and Framer are both robust design tools that can cater to a multitude of design scenarios. My intention wasn't to limit their usage, but to illustrate where they shine the most from my perspective. You're absolutely right, creativity knows no boundaries and these tools are adaptable to whatever the user wishes to design. 2. On the CMS and blog suitability point, I agree with you. I never claimed that it was a novel point. I'm simply stating my experiences and what I've found while using Framer. It does have a CMS, and it does work for blogs. My point was more towards its robustness in comparison to platforms like Webflow, which have a more refined and extensive CMS. 3. As for your third point, I can see why my statement might seem contradictory. I did not mean to imply that all designs produced by Framer look the same. Rather, I was expressing my observation that certain characteristics or traits of the tool can sometimes show through in the final design, giving it a distinctive "Framer" feel. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is a point of note. You're right in saying that its adaptability is one of its strongest features. Again, thank you for your honest critique. This kind of feedback helps me deliver better, more accurate content. It's always valuable to hear different perspectives, so I'm thankful you took the time to share your opinion 🚀🚀

Great use case!

aha I wish it was that easy! Maybe if you do websites then yes

I wish!

Thats a good point! They've changed a lot in recent years, I think with their AI solution their seems a bit more directed, but again who knows what they will do

interesting take, I haven't had it break on me yet

@@ArnauRos I am really sorry for my language lol. I was really frustrated at the time, because framer failed me and I had to finish up my website for the next day. But that doesn't excuse it. Their AI website generator is kind of cool though. Again, I am sorry.

Blaming tools for incompetence. While I'm here completing my brutalist homepage in just one day just using Framer without any design tool.

@@rzgtribe1884 i am just speaking the truth. maybe it works for you because you and the tool you use are both incompetent. good luck with your garbage "designs". you not being able to unpublish or delete projects is a big problem with the design, and i am not even going to start with how buggy some of the things are. maybe you dont have enough design knowledge realize but it is okay, nobody is perfect.