How To Build a Shed or Deck Foundation

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5 жыл бұрын

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This will be a multi-part series featured on this blog on how to build a shed. This particular section will cover how I build a shed or deck foundation using post / concrete construction. These types of floor joist systems are very strong and will last many many years in the hot Florida weather. In this build, I am choosing to build a lean-to style shed that will sit next to my existing cook lofted barn.
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@runforrestrun1965
@runforrestrun1965 3 жыл бұрын
I believe here in New Zealand our regs would require the outside frame to be sitting on bearers on the posts for stronger support rather than relying on screws or even bolts which could shear. Also a double for each outside 6x2. I know it’s only a small shed but one never knows what could happen with any future use, so better to over strengthen. Also the span of the joists seem rather long without anything under the middle to help support and stop any sag.
@Archifx
@Archifx 3 жыл бұрын
Shed still sitting there good as the day I built it. Has a VW beetle sitting in there and a SCAG tiger cat 2 zero turn in it on the regular. It would take a bulldozer’s weight to “shear the lags in half” the plywoood floor and the joists would crack before anything would ever happen to the bolts. There’s too many of them. This way works fine. Aren’t building a piano here... it’s a friggin shed.
@jfratis9081
@jfratis9081 2 жыл бұрын
They aren't going to shear. People who continuously make that claim do not understand how fasteners work.
@pgtips4240
@pgtips4240 3 жыл бұрын
I would always stick a coach bolt through the 4x2 and post, it's doesn't take long and then you know it's very strong.
@boblafountaine9560
@boblafountaine9560 Жыл бұрын
The post is a 4x4.
@standupforwhatsright8784
@standupforwhatsright8784 4 жыл бұрын
Very well explained & job well done.Also like the fact you got the dog as your sidekick.👍👍
@mikel6787
@mikel6787 4 жыл бұрын
I am planning on doing this same project to my 12x16 shed. It's my wood shop and it's too crowded in there. But, I'm gonna open it up to the lean-to part and knock out the wall a little bit. Like putting an addition to a house lo. Great vid buddy.
@catherinelarson7975
@catherinelarson7975 3 жыл бұрын
Great job, great info. We are starting our shed porch this week.
@crossgrainwoodproductsltd9230
@crossgrainwoodproductsltd9230 4 жыл бұрын
You must be an experienced builder. Pouring cement like that and know how much water to add by eye takes knowledge of the proceeded. Great video.
@bmrs.g7108
@bmrs.g7108 3 жыл бұрын
Aweee thank you I was looking for ideas and needed a small deck I am definitely looking forward to making this...perfect!!! For my she deck 😂...
@user-zw7zc2jp2i
@user-zw7zc2jp2i 2 ай бұрын
You can use spray foam gap sealer instead of concrete to set your posts
@SheBuildzThings
@SheBuildzThings 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I do have a question, can you do this exact plan for an elevated porch with flat top? For example the ground would be a concrete slab, then 4 post 6x6x8 will be used (dug 1 1/2 - 2') and then follow your video and add my plywood, water proof and shingles? Thank you.
@sheldonortiz4816
@sheldonortiz4816 3 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend going with a 2x8 for one of those fill up pools. Depending on the sis of the pool
@hatemdamra9536
@hatemdamra9536 Жыл бұрын
That’s just simple and awesome
@timmorodgers4271
@timmorodgers4271 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I've got a shed to erect and this is much easier than laying a concrete base
@redbean4497
@redbean4497 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you.
@leticiaramirez7668
@leticiaramirez7668 4 жыл бұрын
Great job!
@samueladams584
@samueladams584 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Gets the job done
@friscokid9
@friscokid9 4 жыл бұрын
How long did your concrete take to cure for you to put the plywood on.
@barryhunt5357
@barryhunt5357 5 жыл бұрын
Looking Good !!!!! I added on one side of my shed 2 years ago , and now its time to do the other side , the 1st side is a gravel floor , this one will need to be wood , Great Video .
@Archifx
@Archifx 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch! Do it! I love mine
@barryhunt5357
@barryhunt5357 5 жыл бұрын
You need to post an update and walk around of the finished addition !!!!!!
@Archifx
@Archifx 5 жыл бұрын
Oh I did boss man... check it out!!! How To Build a Shed kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rq6kbNKDxtnDhWg.html
@Archifx
@Archifx 4 жыл бұрын
@@barryhunt5357 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rq6kbNKDxtnDhWg.html
@dtruth5769
@dtruth5769 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job!
@sheldonortiz4816
@sheldonortiz4816 3 жыл бұрын
Great video by the way So would you use 2x8s for a pool deck. The plastic 10x12 kind pools
@genevelis6075
@genevelis6075 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Why not to use pavers & put the roof attached to the existing shed over it? What disadvantages and advantages does this solution has? If you make addition to the existing shed that’s the total square footage includes the existing shed and the new addition? If so it will exceed 200 ft.² and in this case you will need to ask for permit from the local government.?
@phetinsixiengmay9027
@phetinsixiengmay9027 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍👍👍 ..Jaxx is quite an assistant too.. lol
@Archifx
@Archifx 5 жыл бұрын
Haha. Yes. He’s the best! He loves projects.
@redbean4497
@redbean4497 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. I’m going to build the same foundation for the 9.1x6.3x6.3 galvanized steel shed for my back yard. What size of plywood, screws and join should I use. Please advise. Thank you.
@qwert54321qaz
@qwert54321qaz 2 жыл бұрын
I'm considering building a deck with very similar dimensions, but with posts around the edge (4 on each side) , how's this one holding up? Wondering if I can get away without putting posts in the middle also and just doing a line of noggins.
@josephlahood4647
@josephlahood4647 Жыл бұрын
Excellent very informative
@anthonyraffaele1982
@anthonyraffaele1982 3 жыл бұрын
great job . . what I plan to do with my shed floor . .I will put down 4" layer of 3/4" crushed stone on area that floor will cover . . if you do it this way you will not have a family if skunks living under your deck . . .all skunks and raccoon do not like walking on sharp stone it hurts their feet. No animals will live under your shed. . . get a box of moth balls and spread moth balls on the crush stone . . . no skunks or other animals like moth balls . . . . trust me . . .its logical advice and cheap to keep pests out . .mice hate it as well... skunks will spray you . .raccoons will bite you and mice poo is not healthy . . .. best of luck . . . Tony
@phetinsixiengmay9027
@phetinsixiengmay9027 5 жыл бұрын
Good job my friend!! I just subscribed to your channel.., very detailed and thought out instructions. Thank you very much for sharing . I will attempt this technique asap🤙🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
@Archifx
@Archifx 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch!! I appreciate that.
@TheHitechHobo
@TheHitechHobo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude
@sandraomary7407
@sandraomary7407 4 жыл бұрын
How long are the 6x6 post?
@yourontheair
@yourontheair 5 жыл бұрын
wonder if legal in florida (hurricaines) great helper.
@GaMedic911
@GaMedic911 8 ай бұрын
I didn’t see where you checked square ? Can you please direct me to that timeline on your video? Thanks 🙏
@alansimpson7886
@alansimpson7886 3 жыл бұрын
What about noggins (timber cuts ) for strength ? AND to deter any bowing of timber or bounce ?
@Archifx
@Archifx 3 жыл бұрын
Not necessary. It’s intended use is a she’s. Has a VW beetle and a SCAG zero turn that live in there full time. No issues
@Eastbaypisces
@Eastbaypisces 3 жыл бұрын
how deep did u sink the posts again??
@jerrywaters4814
@jerrywaters4814 Жыл бұрын
You want more stability maybe you got to try to put the post in the center of the hole instead of off to the side of the hose
@Archifx
@Archifx Жыл бұрын
Yeah. That hose will definitely make a difference. Go to school
@JTWorld210
@JTWorld210 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@TheZohri
@TheZohri 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video but can’t see posts being treated with Bitumen and Damp Proof Membrane? How long is that post going last before it rots under a shed or a tiny house? Regards
@Archifx
@Archifx 3 жыл бұрын
Probably about 45 years if you compare it to every other PT 6x6
@pattognozzi
@pattognozzi 5 жыл бұрын
How did the plywood subfloor work out? You said it was 8’ from the inside to inside, which means you come up 3 inches short on a 4x8 sheet. Anyway, I’m not knocking you. Looks great.
@Archifx
@Archifx 5 жыл бұрын
Ah. Forgot to mention in the vid that I had the 2x4 on the floor to access the ledger bolts in case I need to move the shed. Plywood worked great!!! 👍👍👍
@REVerbtalk
@REVerbtalk 5 жыл бұрын
@@Archifx Oh that makes sense because I was wondering that as well
@Archifx
@Archifx 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah... I broke this video up into 2 parts so a lot of my logic is explained in the shed building video where I explain the “why” on how I built this and the methodology behind it.
@jayryan7473
@jayryan7473 5 жыл бұрын
Did you ever think about putting some angle iron on the ground posts underneath the 2x6's? I don't like the idea of simply using deck screws to support them.
@Archifx
@Archifx 5 жыл бұрын
Yeh... a better idea if you’re wanting more strength is to use galvi- thru bolts. Very strong.
@brikshoe6259
@brikshoe6259 3 жыл бұрын
Those GRKs aren't "deck screws", they are structural screws. Nonetheless, your point is well-taken that the reduced shear strength of screws may be a concern. However, there are better, easier, and more commonly-accepted techniques of supporting rim joists rather than introducing iron into the equation.
@shinigamilee5915
@shinigamilee5915 3 жыл бұрын
Put your weight on top of the 4x4 posts for sheds and decks. Bolts will eventually fail, so lag bolts on the sides are insufficient and can be a huge risk when a structure is suspended.
@Archifx
@Archifx 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. That’s if the structure would last 100 years. The bolts will outlast the wood. It’s a shed. Not a house.
@jfratis9081
@jfratis9081 2 жыл бұрын
No they won't "eventually fail." This has been debated throughly. Anyone making this claim doesn't understand how fasteners work.
@nmoran2046
@nmoran2046 5 жыл бұрын
2 x 6 no good for floors it’s fine for ceilings your 2 x 6 should be 3 inches short of 8 feet to account for your ledgers your outside beam should be doubled up to carry the load of the joist that are not supported by the posts the post should be underneath your beams I take it you live in Florida so I would assume there are some hurricane codesYou’re fast and her choice is awesome you could refine your technique make sure you know the codes in your area if it’s carrying live load you don’t want to buy six it’ll be sagging in a couple years Good On ya for taking on the challenge All outside edges should be doubled especially the spans to support the walls above one floor Joyce caring a wall is not very strong
@Archifx
@Archifx 5 жыл бұрын
All good advice. I’ve had great success with 2x6 as joists when they’re 16”OC. Like I mention in the longer video on the actual shed... light duty use. You can always build and build and make stronger and stronger. This will do the trick for the use case.
@Archifx
@Archifx 5 жыл бұрын
I’m going to keep a live update on this yearly so we can use it as a test dummy. I’m curious to see if she’ll sag and how long. The Cook building I have next to it uses 2x6 and I’ve had that for about 8 years now. Zero sag... time will tell
@jayryan7473
@jayryan7473 5 жыл бұрын
N Moran Do you have a web address for what you are referring to? I'm looking to build a shed and I'm looking for different ideas.
@cathiwim
@cathiwim 4 жыл бұрын
Do you do termite shields there?
@Archifx
@Archifx 4 жыл бұрын
Current update. (6-2-20) Building has a vw beetle and a SCAG tiger cat in and out and used as storage. Zero sag. Strong as the day she was built.
@stefannoalchaar2037
@stefannoalchaar2037 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect
@ednawells4874
@ednawells4874 4 жыл бұрын
Your shed looks great! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us! I built an 8x10 shed for my kids in my backyard earlier this year using plans I got from *WoodBlueprints. Com* Clear directions and an accurate materials list...It was great for a novice builder like myself!
@brendon4901
@brendon4901 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry if you mentioned it but were those deck screws or construction screws? I thought those joist brackets were designed for nails as they're apparently stronger then screws but are the proper exterior screws ok?
@Archifx
@Archifx 3 жыл бұрын
They’re screws. Building is still there with no sag and has about 7,000 lbs of weight in it at the moment.
@juanmurillo1299
@juanmurillo1299 4 жыл бұрын
Everything was good but I think went you do a great job do it the right way those escrews are suck but like I said you did good job
@peglowlowe2923
@peglowlowe2923 3 жыл бұрын
How much did this build cost you because we plan on doing this to the shed up at our cabin to keep a atv or 2 in?
@Archifx
@Archifx 3 жыл бұрын
$2000
@yourontheair
@yourontheair 5 жыл бұрын
great
@alexgardner4766
@alexgardner4766 3 жыл бұрын
interesting points ,if anyone else trying to find out backyard storage sheds plans try *WoodBlueprints. Com* Ive heard some decent things about it and my colleague got cool success with it.
@PaulSmith-ty8jm
@PaulSmith-ty8jm 5 жыл бұрын
You know those hangers have 2 tabs that you can hammer in before needing to screw them in?
@Archifx
@Archifx 5 жыл бұрын
Yeh... just wanted to teach the old school way. But yep... good point. 👍👍
@joekind1
@joekind1 5 жыл бұрын
I recently viewed a video where they were bent inward so that they stayed put until fastened.
@omarjackson1129
@omarjackson1129 2 жыл бұрын
how much was the total finish?
@moeycq
@moeycq 3 жыл бұрын
if you wanted a longer decking, would you essentially make 2 of these, or just get longer timbers?
@NarenRajVaka
@NarenRajVaka 3 жыл бұрын
Hi i assume there are no weeds under the deck because there is no sunlight. I am debating if we should use weed blocker under our deck or not.
@Archifx
@Archifx 3 жыл бұрын
You don’t need weed blocker unless sun will pierce thru the planks. If sun can get in there, weed block it.
@anthonyraffaele1982
@anthonyraffaele1982 3 жыл бұрын
skip the fabric and weed block . . .put down 4" layer of 3/4" crushed stone on area that floor will cover . . if you do it this way you will not have a family if skunks living under your deck . . .all skunks and raccoon do not like walking on sharp stone it hurts their feet. No animals will live under your shed. . . get a box of moth balls and spread moth balls on the crush stone . . . no skunks or other animals like moth balls . . . . trust me . . .its logical advice and cheap to keep pests out . .mice hate it as well...
@griffin6912
@griffin6912 5 жыл бұрын
gonna get that wagon
@MA-vm6jl
@MA-vm6jl 5 жыл бұрын
What kind of wood is that your using?
@Archifx
@Archifx 5 жыл бұрын
That’s regular old pressure treated pine sold at the big box store.
@MA-vm6jl
@MA-vm6jl 5 жыл бұрын
Fix It Now They don’t sell that kind of pressure-treated pine out here at Home Depot or Lowe’s that’s why I was asking I’m in California so CAL southern
@realrocnrolla9711
@realrocnrolla9711 5 жыл бұрын
How did you square the first joist?
@Archifx
@Archifx 5 жыл бұрын
I know the system is to be 8x16 so, I ground lay the joists on the ground and literally line them up to get my initial layout. You can also measure an X from corner to Conner to establish square.
@jerryjerry8673
@jerryjerry8673 5 жыл бұрын
Google 3:4:5 triangle method.
@YontTo
@YontTo 4 жыл бұрын
Run a string off the side of the far end of the shed, and slowly close the distance between the string and shed until it just barely touches the shed. You ain’t building cabinets, that’s the quickest easiest way, although the corner to corner and 3,4,5 method works great, they take more time for something so simple
@etpeterson2087
@etpeterson2087 5 жыл бұрын
Great frame, you left out the weed barrior
@Archifx
@Archifx 5 жыл бұрын
Ah... no need for that in my particular yard. Especially when the floor went on, nothing grows here lol. Add it if you think you need it. 👍
@aaChulizo
@aaChulizo 4 жыл бұрын
Hi friend, i need your help, in one video, i see a VIN number location of Mustang, i need to know where is the VIN number in a Ford Gran Torino from 1974, is possible your help??, many many thanks.
@Sarbet888
@Sarbet888 5 жыл бұрын
Simple deck foundation, I will do the same foundation but mine will be a floating deck using concrete deck block, no digging.
@jimbennington8761
@jimbennington8761 3 жыл бұрын
How long and deep are the 6x6
@Archifx
@Archifx 3 жыл бұрын
2.5ft into the ground
@jimbennington8761
@jimbennington8761 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you and what is the total length of the posts
@Archifx
@Archifx 3 жыл бұрын
Length of the post is ultimately determined by how high you need the perimeter beam floor height to be. It’s variable.
@jimbennington8761
@jimbennington8761 3 жыл бұрын
@@Archifx ok thank you
@lucasmarcilio2725
@lucasmarcilio2725 4 жыл бұрын
8x8 at lumber store
@derickmusella319
@derickmusella319 3 жыл бұрын
I built a shed with these plans from Ryan [ Details Here?> *WoodBlueprints. Com* ] . The instructions were clear and easy to implement. Even a novice can be able to build fast using this plan. I'm happy I bought the plan. It also saved me much cost.
@knottreel
@knottreel 4 жыл бұрын
You must not have to worry about inspectors. I wished I lived in the country. Thanks for the video.
@Archifx
@Archifx 4 жыл бұрын
Lol. Yeah. It’s just a shed. No inspection
@joekind1
@joekind1 5 жыл бұрын
Adding concrete to the posts will rot them quicker.
@Archifx
@Archifx 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve had good experience here in FL with the concrete method.
@joekind1
@joekind1 5 жыл бұрын
@@Archifx Thanks for replying. I didn't believe it until I saw a video 2 weeks ago where the posts were rotted after only 8 years.
@Archifx
@Archifx 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I know. I was chatting with a rep from the company Lowe’s gets their lumber from. They claim their posts and plywood can lay in pure water for 40 years before rot occurs. They use this wood in dock construction here in FL. I am testing the waters so to speak here to see how long I get and if it’s true. We shall see 👍💪
@joekind1
@joekind1 5 жыл бұрын
@@Archifx That makes sense if it's good enough for docks.
@Archifx
@Archifx 5 жыл бұрын
I was skeptical as well. Believe me. We have a local beach bar here where they have a bunch of docks and they were all constructed with the same 2x6 posts and they used galvanized thru-bolts on the joists. They were built about 6 years ago and I was just there yesterday. Still strong as the day they were put in. I’m not sure what they treat these things with (not sure I wana know) but I figured I’d give it a shot. Love the feedback. Time will tell for sure.
@calitropicalfruits8725
@calitropicalfruits8725 4 жыл бұрын
Hi jack . You so cute
@shaddec55
@shaddec55 4 жыл бұрын
You didn't mix the quikrete? Are you kidding me? How does that even work? There will voids of dry stuff, FFS. Man, I don't get this.
@Archifx
@Archifx 4 жыл бұрын
Nope. Read the bag boss man. No voids of any dryness. Test and read the instructions before you comment.
@shaddec55
@shaddec55 4 жыл бұрын
Guess I never noticed that stuff at Lowes (if they even have it). What's it called? Is it only for holes, or can you do that in a small wooden form flat on the ground? I'd like to check that stuff out if you tell me the name. Thanks!
@Mattg1616
@Mattg1616 4 жыл бұрын
@@shaddec55 red bag of quickrete....one bag per post (usually used for fence posts but i also have used this to set 4x4s for decks. pour bag into hole...add water and thats it)
@Arden2886
@Arden2886 4 жыл бұрын
Well great insight. Wish I found this video sooner I’m going to be building an 8 x 12 simple deck just sit a grill on. But rather than having a flush on the ground I’d like to have it lifted up about a foot
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