How To Cellar Pipe Tobacco PART 1 - Mason Jars, Vacuum Sealing, & Parafilm

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Want to store your pipe blends long term and keep an air tight seal for proper aging? Here are the options that I choose to use, including mason jars, vacuum sealing, and parafilm. There are many options, preferences, and opinions on storage. These are just the ones I personally choose to use. Regular plastic bags (Ziploc, or Sutliff / Mac Baren 1-pound bags for example) are insufficient for long term storage. Anything you put in a mason jar (including entire pouches/bags if your jar is big enough) will be fine, as long as you have space for all those jars! You can vacuum seal entire tins, but this is more expensive and takes up more storage space than neatly stacked tins with parafilm seals. So explore all options and decide what works best for you! :)
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@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Subscribe and click the bell to be notified when “How To Cellar Pipe Tobacco PART 2” is released! I’ll share thoughts on pop-top tins, proper temperature, and include answers to questions from comments below! There are many options, preferences, and opinions on storage. These are just the ones I personally choose to use. Regular plastic bags (Ziploc, or Sutliff / Mac Baren 1-pound bags for example) are insufficient for long term storage. Anything you put in a mason jar (including entire pouches/bags if your jar is big enough) will be fine, as long as you have space for all those jars! You can vacuum seal entire tins, but this is more expensive and takes up more storage space than neatly stacked tins with parafilm seals. So explore all options and decide what works best for you! :)

@benniebarrow348 3 ай бұрын

I’ve just gotten into pipe smoking and have been binge watching your videos. Just wanted to say that you are one of the coolest guys I have ever listened to. Your knowledgeable, calm and kind approach is such a pleasure . Just wanted to give kudos where kudos are due . Thanks !

@hobbitonpiper 3 ай бұрын

This is great to hear, thank you so much for taking the time to send me this encouragement!!

@blzbub8898 19 күн бұрын

Man what a neat contraption! And such helpful ways on cellaring your tobaccos! Love this. I’ve actually been trying to figure out the best way to dry out some of my tobaccos as they’re very moist from the shop I got them from. Tips very much welcome.

@hobbitonpiper 19 күн бұрын

All you have to do to let your tobacco dry a bit is just set out what you plan to pack for 20 mins or so. But don’t let it get crispy dry. That will never be your best flavor experience. Full thoughts here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7yof9J8zbLahZc.htmlsi=2KPOgbyShfqQN597

@thenjrogers Жыл бұрын

I know this an older video! However, I appreciate the information. I have recently devised essentially the same system, so it’s nice to see it works well for someone else. We have the same reasons for wanting to vacuum seal too! I don’t really mind mason jars for ribbons cuts at all. I can just stuff a ribbon cut real tight and seal it away. Other cuts are more annoying to use in mason jars. For even moderate length storage it’s good to minimize headspace. Gawith Square tins have recently gotten even worse. You’re probably aware already of that. I posted something on Reddit not too long ago asking for advice on how to reinforce seals. Gawith and Hogarth has an official Reddit account. They actually commented on my post. At first I thought it was very cool that they posted on Reddit and were trying to engage with their customers. However, they made it very clear that maintaining a strong seal on their tins is not a priority for them. They want to only focus on making good tobacco and making sure they can just get it to the consumer properly. I definitely get that, and clearly that’s the most important thing. However, it’s very frustrating at the same time. I’d like to buy three tins or so when a hard to find blend comes along so I can enjoy it as a treat throughout the year and not worry that I’m quickly going to run out and be bummed. I’m not a hoarder. However, with poor seals, and living in the Midwest with very dry winters, that means I can’t even trust poorly sealed tins to last a year.

@hobbitonpiper Жыл бұрын

No matter the age of my videos, Nick, I’ve recorded these with longevity in mind so that they will hopefully still be a good resource for folks many years from now! Yes, the measures described in this 2-part series should serve you well in mitigating the risks improper aging. When in doubt, jar it up. Be sure to see Part 2! :)

@jetteroheller6395 Ай бұрын

Love the birds! Great Video.

@hobbitonpiper Ай бұрын

Thank you, be sure to see Part 2!

@jacksonrpaul Жыл бұрын

Thank you for these awesome educational videos!

@hobbitonpiper Жыл бұрын

You’re very welcome, Jackson, be sure to see Part 2! :)

@tamper-proof3703 2 жыл бұрын

Great job walking us through these deep cellaring tips. Always first class info and presentation!

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! PART 2 will be released next week! Hope to see you there :)

@tomsmith5901 8 ай бұрын

Hey, I am a relatively new subscriber, so out of date on your videos. What I love about your offerings is that you stay focused on the topic of tobacco and stuff related to tobacco. I mean, there are several guys who go off into politics; they seem to assume their listeners are interested in all of their views on everything. Anyway, thank you. I’d note with love that you tend to have a bit of OCD going on but its all fun. Just saying. I am a retired shrink. I am one of those ‘don’t want to cellar’ for most blends since there are sooooo many amazing ones I adore, it is incredibly unlikely all of them will be unavailable at the same time. And I am unconvinced that cellaring consistently improves flavor. I also don’t want to spend the time you do in cutting rounds with the name of the blend and glue-sticking on to the mason jars. What I have found is a different solution, so if you are not it is using Zegghead Mason Jar Labels. These are available on Amazon and elsewhere and are made in the USA. They fit almost all sizes of mason jars, and you use a ‘sharpie’ to put the name of the blend on the white tag, and can erase it later if you decide you don’t want that one. So, easy and re-usable. Thanks again!

@hobbitonpiper 8 ай бұрын

OCD. Yes, I believe you have properly diagnosed me :)

@expandingknowledge8269 10 ай бұрын

I cellar my whole leaf tobacco in mason jars. My wife is really into food canning our foods. She has a vacuum device that she uses that looks like a brake bleeding device, I use this on my mason jars for my tobacco, works fantastic. I usually place dried plums and a twig of vanilla into each jar, really flavors the tobacco to my liking. I use dark burleys and Virginia bright whole leaf tobaccos which I prefer. Smoking some of this right now watching this video on a blustery morning here in New Hampshire. Your the Best Kevin !!! 👌

@hobbitonpiper 10 ай бұрын

That all sounds very interesting, I bet you get some nice results!

@tmead07 4 ай бұрын

Hey, I use one of those too! It’s literally a brake line bleeder I got at harbor freight and the food saver attachment for mason jars. Just starting pipe smoking, but I’ve been using it for years to keep jars of snacks and stuff fresh after opening the original packaging.

@madmantitus 2 жыл бұрын

Another fantastic video Kevin! I really enjoyed this one. That stretchy plastics stuff looks like a great way to store tobacco. I've never seen nor heard of that till now. Just in case I get caught up and busy again. Have a fantastically merry Christmas my friend and a stupendously happy new year!

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

It’s fun to play with, Timothy! :) Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

@morgansopko5882 2 жыл бұрын

Great storage tips/options. Just ordered some jars for some of my frequently visited tobacco. Now to print off the HD labels for the lids.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Yeah, mason jars are a must in my book. I have a step-by step video on how to make the cellar labels if you missed it!

@stevewilams867 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome advice!!! Really good advice anyone who is looking into getting into buying bulk tobacco or anyone wanting to just keep it good and get the most out of it.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome Steve, you may enjoy Part 2 as well sometime!

@flyfishingpiper4976 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video, I have been using mason jars and vacuum sealers but the film is a great idea for the tins! Thanks again and hope all is well!

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

All is well here, thank you! Yeah the Parafilm is a nice tool to add to your piping toolbox :)

@howardlowry6412 2 ай бұрын

OUTSTANDING! Thanks, very much!

@hobbitonpiper 2 ай бұрын

You’re very welcome! :)

@rbenning242 2 жыл бұрын

Not sure why I never thought to vacuum seal… This is helpful. Thank you for all the videos!

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Try it out and see what you think. You’re very welcome! :)

@paulrouleau1972 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting and informative. Thanks!

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

You’re so welcome Paul!

@tylerspri 2 жыл бұрын

Mason jars full of tobacco and nicely labeled make awesome decorations....bonus points. 😀

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

They sure do!! :)

@ChipAK49 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kevin, I have never seen that tape before, I might have to get some! All the best.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chip, it’s a pretty cool option to play with :)

@AlfonsoTheTraitor 2 жыл бұрын

That film looks amazing 😉 thanks!

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

It’s fun! Definitely worth trying :)

@torgomax 2 ай бұрын

Just what I needed to know 👍

@hobbitonpiper 2 ай бұрын

Cool!

@JoseMora-wc5zz 9 ай бұрын

Love you bro. Thanks for giving me info

@hobbitonpiper 9 ай бұрын

You’re very welcome! Be sure to watch Part 2! :)

@SmokingCardboard 2 жыл бұрын

Well done video. Obviously put a lot of thought and time. Thanks for sharing. I’m using jars and tins. The tins I seal with foil tape😊👍🏻

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Jars always win scientifically, no doubt. Any extra layer around our tins can’t hurt! :)

@AlfonsoTheTraitor 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tips I really like the film a lot I just might have to look into this.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

You should! It’s a good tool to have in your piping pocket :)

@marcellspadoni5458 2 жыл бұрын

Great advice!

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Marcell! PART 2 will be released later this week! :)

@adamc647 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative thank you

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome Adam! :)

@NickS34252 11 ай бұрын

Very Awesome and original suggestion to use para-film - I never knew such a thing existed, and now I can't live without it :) Poking around some of the lab channels that use parafilm, many suggest a 'tip' of cutting twice the width you need and folding it over. Makes it much easier to stretch without breaking.

@hobbitonpiper 11 ай бұрын

Ah, something to try! It would take double the amount of parafilm to do that, but I can see how that could help

@ryanhensley5491 2 жыл бұрын

Great video thanks for sharing, I never heard of parafilm before

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome, Ryan, yeah Parafilm is pretty cool stuff. Hope you enjoy PART 2 when you have time to watch :)

@TRPufnStuf 2 жыл бұрын

Great information. Thanks for sharing.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

You’re very welcome Erobin! Have you tried that Carter Hall yet? :)

@TRPufnStuf 2 жыл бұрын

@@hobbitonpiper not yet. Maybe this weekend.

@tomslivinski5665 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the information! I have a food saver and never considered it for storing my pouches.

@hobbitonpiper 7 ай бұрын

Works great! Be sure to see Part 2! :)

@patrickpetrowsky8136 Жыл бұрын

A Christmas Vacation fan! 🎄

@hobbitonpiper Жыл бұрын

Yes!! :)

@aaronburress258 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your knowledge sir! I just got into pipe smoking and I’m learning so much from you!

@hobbitonpiper 4 ай бұрын

You’re very welcome! Be sure to watch Part 2! :)

@aaronburress258 4 ай бұрын

I just finished part 2! If I transfer tins into a mason jar is it ok to put multiple tins of tobacco of the same blend into one jar?

@hobbitonpiper 4 ай бұрын

@@aaronburress258 absolutely. The only time this might not be advised is if you had a fresh tin vs an aged tin. It wouldn’t hurt anything to combine them, but aged blends often taste quite different than when they are fresh, so it wouldn’t be a consistent jar if you combined them, if that makes sense.

@aaronburress258 4 ай бұрын

@@hobbitonpiper that makes perfect sense! Thank you very much for your help I truly appreciate it.

@robertashcroft1439 2 жыл бұрын

Kevin, Great video on cellaring. I use mason jars and a food saver. One thing extra I do is to add an oxygen absorber to the pack or jar. It pulls the lid or packaging tighter and seals better also it will show if I did not get a good seal.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Very cool Robert, I may have to look into that! :)

@paranormal_investigators6003 Жыл бұрын

by far the vacuum seal bags are my favorite. been using them for years without a problem but for tins you can by heat shrink plastic cellophane wrap as well and it will hold the tins lid tight to the bottom can

@hobbitonpiper Жыл бұрын

Yes, be sure to see Part 2 for my full thoughts!

@russhicksart 2 жыл бұрын

great video about storing tobacco. I need some Parafilm M. Never used it before and it looks to be a great solution for the pesky metal tins. Maybe Santa will bring me some.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

I enjoy using it, and have never had it come loose after being applied properly as shown. Very tight seal, but easily removed. And the tins still stack up nice and neat this way as if nothing extra had been done! Thank you Russ!

@frankgallik2653 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Kevin, great content, ideas. I watched this a little late tonight. Was a bit busy. I wonder if plumbers threading tape would work as well as the Paraflim M. I did find where they have that in a tape style roll. Excellent ideas, thank you for sharing. Have a great evening.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

The clear application is really nice, it’s as if you’ve done nothing at all, and yet it’s 2.8x more resistant to oxygen transmission than even FoodSaver bags. It’s a great tool to have on hand :)

@pipenotch 2 жыл бұрын

hi kevin another very helpful video 🙂👍 i have to get the parafilm for all my samuel gawith tins i have i my cellar. cheers marco

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

I definitely use it for all of mine. Let me know what you think of it :)

@NorthwoodsPiper 2 жыл бұрын

A got the Parafilm idea from one of Cane rods earlier videos and have all my tins sealed with it. I even do a wrap on all my long term jars. It’s great stuff!

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

It’s a good tool to have! You know how mason jar lids can become loose over time and need to be retightened? I wonder if your process of wrapping jar lids with parafilm prevents this? Interesting…

@NorthwoodsPiper 2 жыл бұрын

That would be interesting to know. I’ve never noticed that they loosen because I probably over tighten them! Lol

@goblinpiper6665 2 жыл бұрын

I actually have Parafilm on hand! Cool thanks friend 😊

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

You’re so welcome! Very cool! :)

@E.Suggs316 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video on cellaring. These are all the methods I use. Though I did have a miner problem with the parafilm. I found that the way I store my tins together in stacks in mediums sized tubs (Ziploc Brand) that over time the tins slightly touch and rub together causing the parafilm to split. If your tins stacked never touch though it would be a great option. For me though I believe I'm going to move to the Hvac tin foil tape to put an extra seal on my tins. Take care and Merry Christmas to you and your family

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting Ethan! Yeah if there’s friction over time I can see that breaking down the film. Regardless of the methods used, it’s always wise to check your stock on occasion for any potential issues (mold inside jars, broken bags, or broken seals)

@RaduCiprian 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice, informative video! May I suggest you make a comparison between a blend that you cellared for some time and the same blend fresh?

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Some blends change dramatically with age, I’ll add that video idea to my list! :)

@skipton9511 2 жыл бұрын

Informative instructive video, Kevin. Another reason to use the 'alternate' vacuum sealed bag or parafilm is the amount of storage space that you have. Jars are going to take up more space than stacked sealed tins or pouches. Thanks for the tips! Be well, stay safe, and keep it awesome - peace

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

A major “pro” of using bags over jars is saving space, but it does come with its cons. I’m going to share my thoughts about the pros and cons in great detail during PART 2 next week. Lots of options for a piper to consider! :)

@skipton9511 2 жыл бұрын

@@hobbitonpiper Looking forward to Part 2 👍

@sunset3052 7 ай бұрын

Awesome advice

@hobbitonpiper 7 ай бұрын

Thank you! Be sure to watch Part 2 when you have time! :)

@sunset3052 7 ай бұрын

@@hobbitonpiper I just did. Really enjoy all your videos, thanks so much Kevin!

@papajoepiper1550 2 жыл бұрын

Great Information Kevin!

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Joe, be sure to watch Part 2! I answer viewer questions and give more information along these lines

@papajoepiper1550 2 жыл бұрын

@@hobbitonpiper I just watched it. It was great too. I have a question. Do the 14 Oz. Tubs need to be sealed with Parafilm M?

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

@@papajoepiper1550 I’m not sure a proper seal could be obtained via parafilm on tubs with plastic lids…same with tins that have plastic lids like C&D

@papajoepiper1550 2 жыл бұрын

@@hobbitonpiper Thank you Sir.

@piperced-said1964 2 жыл бұрын

Good ideas! You could also use 1Gallon Jars for storage of whole package tobacco’s! That would also be mice proof!

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Yes you can! I mention that in my top comment above because after filming this I wish I’d said that myself. As long as a person has room to store those large jars… :)

@The-man-with-the-many-pipes 2 жыл бұрын

Hello! Very cool thx ✌

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Hello! And thank you, brother :)

@polyesterdreamboat 2 жыл бұрын

I collect new tobacco blends like I collect books. I buy it, intending to smoke it, and add it to the growing pile. I'll get to it *someday*

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Haha yes, that’s exactly how it all starts! :)

@AaronHawley 2 жыл бұрын

I forgot about parafilm. I used to work in a biology lab. It's a neat product.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

It really is! Quite useful

@jbafternoonpiper404 2 жыл бұрын

I use the food sealer bags for everything I want to seal and don't want to smoke for a while. I think I'm going to try that tape also. I see it's on amazon.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Great choice JB! :)

@raymond71595 2 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna have to try that out on my tins

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Let me know how it goes , Ray! :)

@raymond71595 2 жыл бұрын

@@hobbitonpiper I sure will!

@johnpoundford1063 3 ай бұрын

So ive decided to quit cigarettes and take up a pipe instead and I've just bought a pot jar to put mi bacca in.but your video was very good and informative thank you

@hobbitonpiper 3 ай бұрын

Glad I could help

@rb343 Жыл бұрын

Great video, what width parafilm M did you buy? Very informative!

@hobbitonpiper Жыл бұрын

Thanks R B! 4 inches

@clays.8122 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Kevin, hope everyone there made it through the storms safely

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Yes all good here, thanks for checking on us! :)

@tacodirt9533 2 жыл бұрын

So far digging the channel. Have a vacuum sealer and obviously do not use it enough, as the idea never crossed my mind. I also really like the idea of the Parafilm M. Question on the Parafilm M. Does anyone have a real life example of a time the tin failed and the Parafilm M saved the day? While looking at Parafilm M it is described as being a moisture barrier but gas permeable. "Parafilm will prevent moisture and volume loss but it is also permeable to oxygen, carbon dioxide and water vapour. Therefore it allows for off-gassing without compromising the sample integrity." Possibly, way over thinking this...

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

See PART 2 for answers to these questions! :)

@Nighttrainpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like the parafilm could be pretty easily removable. Reason I point that out is that you could theoretically use that on opened tins that you only want to smoke once in a while, rather than jarring it. I personally like my active rotation tobacco in their original tins. Though I do have some of it jarred as well.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

It’s very easily removable, Scott. However, keep in mind that Parafilm strips are one-time-use. Once an applied strip is removed, they become loose, floppy, and no longer stretch properly. As long as you were willing to cut a new strip each time I think you could do this, but that will require a lot of Parafilm over time.

@williams3846 2 жыл бұрын

The parafilm is an excellent idea. I will have to try that. Also, I don’t see any Lane 1-Q being sold in tins anymore. I wonder if they discontinued that.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Not sure…I think you can still get em but I haven’t looked in a while

@executiveboardluissantigo4878 Ай бұрын

I use electric tape for my tins however will try this method with this product

@hobbitonpiper Ай бұрын

I think you’ll like it! Thinner, a better seal, and clear. :)

@capjiekia Жыл бұрын

parafilm is good idea. i use it also for single malt whiskey.

@hobbitonpiper Жыл бұрын

Nice!

@fivevs1 2 жыл бұрын

I got a few jars of tobacco in Mason jars that, by the date I wrote on the label, will hit ten years come January 2023. Funny enough that happened to be the last time I saw FVF available in bulk format.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Very cool!!!

@leatherbackcigar1234 2 жыл бұрын

Just ordered some Parafilm M!

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Very cool, let me know how you like it! :)

@tomdesouza3702 2 жыл бұрын

If you cut the vacuum bags about two times larger than the tobacco pouches you can open and seal them again without cutting a bag just big enough for the pouch every time. It saves on vac bags.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Great tip, Tom!

@russhicksart Жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more Tom. @hobbitonpiper Kevin will remember the last tin of of 2013 Capstan Gold we scored I seal this way for special occasions. Tins I know I am going to get into multiple times over a long time-span I'll leave the bag long enough to reseal 5-10 times. Of course I buy the Vac-seal bags in rolls. FWIW, the last 150ft roll I bought was this: a.co/d/eLPmfAM

@BradleyDavis-vm9cc 3 ай бұрын

New subscriber to your channel. Enjoy all the good information you share with us. Also new to piping. What size wide-mouth mason jars do you recommend? Where you get the flatter looking Ball jars? Thank you once again.

@hobbitonpiper 3 ай бұрын

8oz are great for small amounts. Unfortunately the squat shaped jars have been discontinued and are difficult to find at a fair price

@BradleyDavis-vm9cc 3 ай бұрын

Thank you sir!

@rustbeltpipes 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! I've not heard of Parafilm. I know some folks use regular tape to seal tins, too. I'm curious if it's worthwhile to get dark glass jars or paint them to reduce sunlight getting to the leaf. Any info on that?

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

I’m now learning that some do use amber or purple mason jars to protect against 99% of UV rays. If you’re already storing your jars in a dark place, however, it would be unnecessary…and being able to see your tobacco in your sealed jars has benefits to me which I’ll share in PART 2.

@jeffhamilton5985 21 күн бұрын

Should i wrap or vac.seal unopened tins,pouches.or should they be fine if factory seal has not been broken. Thanks for your time,enjoy watching your videos

@hobbitonpiper 21 күн бұрын

All of that guidance is within this video in great detail

@viceandvirtue7292 2 жыл бұрын

Just a hint on the vacuum sealing. Vacuum sealing is used to preserve perishable items. Your tobacco will age much slower if you remove all the oxygen. If you are sealing unopened tin or pouches it should be ok. If it is opened you need to ensure some air is left. There is a video on KZfaq proving this over I believe 2 years of aging. Please link if you know the video.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

I’ll share my thoughts on vacuum sealing loose tobacco in PART 2. I only personally vacu seal unopened pouches and bags as shown in here in PART 1. All of my loose tobacco is put into mason jars.

@corksauve4949 Жыл бұрын

I vacuum seal a lot of food. I put them in the freezer afterwards. So I can't say how long a vacuum sealed bag will keep it's seal. One thing to remember is that most plastics are gas permeable. Meaning gas can escape and enter a plastic bag. Not sure how long it would take but I would guess it will happen. Just something to keep an eye out for.

@hobbitonpiper Жыл бұрын

Yes, vacuum sealing around original pouch/bag packaging just gives you that extra layer of insurance basically. I don’t personally vacuum seal loose tobacco for long term storage. Be sure to see PART 2 for more on this! :)

@alikos88 Жыл бұрын

Very infomercial video! Just wondering - when you 'seal' the Mason jar... are you just tightening the lid secure or do take additional steps i.e. Vacuum seal with FoodSaver Jar seal?

@hobbitonpiper Жыл бұрын

Ball Mason jars just need tightening the lid , all good

@alikos88 Жыл бұрын

@@hobbitonpiper Thanks! btw I mean to say informative video...darn auto correct :)

@dapiddiboy Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the video! What are your thoughts on Boveda packs for moisture? I’ve been putting those into my jars. Don’t know if it really makes a difference over time.

@hobbitonpiper Жыл бұрын

There’s no need to add moisture to pipe tobacco if you haven’t lost it in the first place, which is preventable by storing it with a proper air tight seal, such as with a ball mason jar. No boveda packs for pipe tobacco. Be sure to watch Part 2! :)

@dapiddiboy Жыл бұрын

@@hobbitonpiper Thank you! I’m a German and I tend to over complicate things lol. About to watch Part 2.

@Dustyphoto915 10 ай бұрын

So genuine question. I have heard people say that the second vacuum can break the vacuum applied to the tin at the factory. Have you ever experienced this?? Thanks for the feedback.

@hobbitonpiper 10 ай бұрын

I haven’t, but if it did it wouldn’t matter. It’s still vacu sealed by the second vacuum.

@Dustyphoto915 10 ай бұрын

@@hobbitonpiper True indeed. I vacuumed a few tins awhile back and I’m going to tear into em soon. I like the food grade plastic for that extra layer of water protection.

@rodrigomunoz4261 Ай бұрын

Hola, soy un recién suscrito, tus videos son geniales y me pareces super simpático. Soy de los que les gusta guardar en envase original. ¿Cómo cuidas la humedad del tabaco en las latas selladas con Parafilm? Abrazos

@hobbitonpiper Ай бұрын

The original humidity of the tobacco must be maintained, and that is accomplished by simply maintaining the original seal (keeping it air tight). Parafilm helps to assure the original seal is maintained, or you can open your tins and move the tobacco into an air tight mason jar. No other steps are needed in regards to humidity except that you need to store your air tight tins/jars in a cool, dark place with a relatively constant temperature (not in a place where temperatures could get very cold or very hot)

@acoupleofpipedreams1609 Жыл бұрын

Hey, great video, please Could you tell me what size / capacity is the mason jar in your vid? And I presume it is the wide mouth style??? Kev

@hobbitonpiper Жыл бұрын

16oz Ball Wide Mouth mason jars are the large ones I use!

@acoupleofpipedreams1609 Жыл бұрын

@@hobbitonpiper thank you 🙏🏻

@The23Unknown 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the helpful video! I had a question though. I recently picked up some Samuel Gawith tins and learned that they have been having issues with the vacuum seal being almost non existent from the factory. Do you think Parafilm would be a good way to remedy this if the seal is already broken?

@russhicksart 2 жыл бұрын

(I'm answering this at Kevin's request.) I've noticed the same thing with some of the recent Gawith tins I purchased. These are supposedly vacuum sealed but when I opened them they were already compromised so the evidence seems to be mounting. A Prafilm application certainly will not hurt but it will leak, albeit slowly, over time. If you think the seal is compromised and you wish to age the tobacco safely I recommend moving the contents to a mason jar. If you wish to preserve the anaerobic-only fermentation process of the original Gawith presentation you might consider vacuum seal lids for the mason jars or Mylar bags though personally I would opt for the the aerobic and anaerobic option of the classic mason jar.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Russ! I agree

@imjusttoodissgusted5620 2 жыл бұрын

cool number one comment this time. always enjoy your up loads (smoking my 320 trevi and some presbyterian + some 100 proof Evan Williams ) still waiting for a review of Revendale. I bet you smoke it in a cobbet pipe😀

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

So many blends so little time! Oh yes, that one is enjoyed in the Cobbit Shire pipe mostly! :)

@imjusttoodissgusted5620 2 жыл бұрын

@@hobbitonpiper I am running out of room in my secretary for mason jars and my tins. I need more space! today is my 40th anniversary and my wife got me an alligator green 311 KS, it's a beauty, now what to smoke in it first is the question, whether tis nobler to smoke an English or suffer the tongue bite of aromatics .......

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

@@imjusttoodissgusted5620 if I could start everyone out on Boswell’s Countryside I would :)

@gabriel.lazar1985 2 жыл бұрын

Nice woodpecker! Looks like a female Nuttall's Woodpecker, although I've painted a bullseye (Stokkebye?) on myself for a better ornithologist to rebuke me. Such is life... Oh, and thanks for the video! Very helpful.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Tell me the time mark when it showed up in the video (minutes and seconds) and I’ll let you know, Gabriel! :) very welcome, glad you enjoyed! PART 2 this week!

@gabriel.lazar1985 2 жыл бұрын

@@hobbitonpiper Right at the beginning! 0:04 to 0:16.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

@@gabriel.lazar1985 here we call those Downy Woodpeckers …sometimes ones will show up that look the same but are a bit larger with longer beaks we call Hairy Woodpeckers :)

@DavidHernandez-yc9yq 2 жыл бұрын

Have you ever tried the food saver method on tins.

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Hi David, you can certainly do that! Your tins won’t stack as neatly as if you’d used the Parafilm but FoodSaver bags should be sufficient. I’m being told now by one of my engineer friends that Parafilm is 2.8x better at preventing oxygen transmission than most FoodSaver bags, so Parafilm is pretty cool for tins, and it does save space. Visually it’s as if you did nothing at all. I’ll talk to you about the Mylar bag option in PART 2 as well :)

@ZoobTech 8 ай бұрын

Are there any blends that you wouldnt recommend storing or ageing? for instance, aromatics or english blends that are better fresh than they would be aged? is that thing? thank you!

@hobbitonpiper 8 ай бұрын

It’s definitely a thing but depends on the blend. Some aromatics age fine while others can become rancid over time and are much better fresh. English blends are hit or miss. Virginia based blends, especially straight virginia blends often improve dramatically with age. Be sure to watch Part 2! :)

@gratefulpipeandcigar3239 2 жыл бұрын

I have questions. I’m probably just gonna go with the ball jar option. But I’ve seen in plenty of storage videos, when you put tobacco in a ball jar, it’s recommended to fill it mostly but not to pack the tobacco down into it so that it’s tight. If I were to store unopened tins, the tobacco is packed pretty tight in a tin and I’m wondering if that is optimum for aging?

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, you are normally fine to leave the tins alone for aging (there are exceptions discussed in this series) and add a parafilm seal when possible. This is optimal as manufacturers have sealed these tins with aging in mind. Leaving a little room in your ball jars is advised to allow a little air for a proper aging environment.

@thunderstickhomestead Жыл бұрын

I have some Brigadier Black in large 8oz tubs is that ok or should I do something elts? I didnt even open it to see how its sealed up I just put them in the cellar

@hobbitonpiper Жыл бұрын

Those are pop tops…I’m not sure if they have food-grade liners or not. If you’re going to smoke something yourself and have concerns (and you don’t care about resale value), the wise decision is to move it into a mason jar after 5 years.

@andrewvela2266 8 ай бұрын

Just curious what size mason jar is that in this video? If anyone knows please.

@hobbitonpiper 8 ай бұрын

Hi Andrew, in this video that is a 16oz Wide Mouth Ball Mason Jar. Be sure to watch Part 2! :)

@YouHeckinBetcha 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Kevin, I have some 100g tins of solani and those are not vacuumed sealed. They have a bag inside of the tin. Would you recommend leaving them or jar them for long term? I have 4 of them and won’t be getting into them very consistently due to so many opened tobaccos already! Thanks in advance:)

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

You should remove them from the tins/bags and jar them up. Except for resale value there’s just no reason to risk it. If you’re going to smoke it, I’d move those to mason jars.

@YouHeckinBetcha 2 жыл бұрын

@@hobbitonpiper ok will do!

@workaccount3872 Жыл бұрын

Coming from the mycology world Parafilm is not air tight. It will let gasses escape, but it is good for keeping moisture in/out. That said, I've had cultures in petri dishes dry out while sealed with parafilm so it is not a guarantee that it will work long term.

@hobbitonpiper Жыл бұрын

Yeah, keeping that moisture in is the key, so it’s just another risk mitigator. It’s certainly not a forever guarantee tho. As with all types of storage they periodically need to be checked.

@mtintegrity 2 жыл бұрын

so on ball jar option - do you vacuum seal your ball jarred tobacco or just close them tight? ever use oxygen absorbers?

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

No, the ball jars are already as air tight as you can get on their own. Tobacco aging actually can benefit from a little air being sealed in there so no need to absorb oxygen, just need to achieve an air tight seal.

@Rick-fz7tt Жыл бұрын

What’s the break down ratio of pipe tobacco to the size of a mason jar? Thanks

@hobbitonpiper Жыл бұрын

Hi Rick, that totally depends on the cut of the tobacco and how hard you personally choose to press it down in the jar. A little air space in the top is ideal for aging. You’ll have to experiment a bit, but in those low profile 8oz jars I use a lot it can usually fit 2-4oz of tobacco depending

@Rick-fz7tt Жыл бұрын

@@hobbitonpiper 🙏 Thanks

@vBunz 4 ай бұрын

If storing tobacco in a mason jar, do i need to put a humidification device inside? Or just simply throw the tobacco inside, seal it tight, and leave it?

@hobbitonpiper 4 ай бұрын

No humidification needed for pipe tobacco. The key is to preserve its original moisture content / tobacco oils within an air tight container such as a mason jar.

@vBunz 4 ай бұрын

Thank you@@hobbitonpiper !! You've just earned a new follower!

@Erik-pv2sr 2 жыл бұрын

Why not put the tins in the food saver bags and vac seal them?

@hobbitonpiper 2 жыл бұрын

See Part 2! :)

@bratva23 Жыл бұрын

I make a vacuum for everything.

@hobbitonpiper Жыл бұрын

Be sure to see Part 2 for more thoughts on this!

@angelomendola7464 Жыл бұрын

I'm new to this hobby. I thought you're not supposed to vacuum seal for long term storage? Is it because you're storing in the original package which has some oxygen inside?

@hobbitonpiper Жыл бұрын

The key is to keep an air tight seal on the original packaging so that the tobacco oils and moisture inside that packaging are not lost over time. I don’t vacuum seal loose tobacco for long term storage personally. More on that in Part 2, so be sure to watch it as well for more answers! :)

@angelomendola7464 Жыл бұрын

@@hobbitonpiper Thanks for that. So if I really wanted to store something say for a few years, what would be the best method?

@hobbitonpiper Жыл бұрын

@@angelomendola7464 it’s it’s already open, a mason jar. Otherwise just leave it in its original packaging, it should be fine to sit for that amount of time, in a cool consistent temperature as described in these videos.

@angelomendola7464 Жыл бұрын

@@hobbitonpiper thanks. Appreciate the videos. I also see some folks putting small Boveda packs to keep the RH constant inside the jar.

@hobbitonpiper Жыл бұрын

@@angelomendola7464 absolutely unnecessary for pipe tobacco in my opinion. Just don’t loose the original moisture in the first place and all is well, that’s the key.

@trinkladd Жыл бұрын

Wanna keep tobacco a long time. By stainless steal vaults. A bowl with sealable lid. And place a 6rh two each boveda pack. U can vacuum seal as well with a boveda pack

@russhicksart Жыл бұрын

I am not quite understanding what you are recommending here. Seems like multiple unnecessary, sub-optimal steps. If your pipe tobacco is properly humidified to begin with using a mason jar for storage would be a much lighter storage solution, less prone to rust/tarnish and significantly less expensive. The only time I have ever needed to use a Boveda pack on pipe tobacco is when I have let it dry out too much and I agree, it works great.