How to change leaf spring pins and bushings on a Big Truck
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@johnhutsenpillerjr17856 жыл бұрын
take a bow Sir ! you're better than a lot of people who call themselves mechanics today ! you're hired ! all the best Sir thanks Driver !
@57bagre6 жыл бұрын
I was just taking a peek at your collection of videos, you have a lot of mechanic stuff there, I did an in frame on my Detroit 60 12.7 this winter and put it all up on KZfaq. Thanks for liking my vids.
@chrisnorton21194 жыл бұрын
Explained really good
@matthewcady46244 жыл бұрын
I know this video is a few years old but I’m currently working on a KW T800 and was a little nervous about working on the bushings and shackles but you sir have helped more than you know. Thank you so much for the wisdom!
@juanchavez52674 жыл бұрын
This video was just what I needed to watch so I can now save my boss the expense and myself the loss of days or weeks of work! nice job sir!
@57bagre4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help. Thanks for watching.
@tamipotirala69733 жыл бұрын
It's a day job
@HaydenICM7 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say thanks for this video. I am half way through trucking school and this really helped me to understand the suspension system of a big truck. Especially the steel bushing aspect of it. I have to have the suspension memorized and this just made it so clear, thanks!
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment. There's not much suspension covered here but you can ask anything anytime, if I know how to answer I will.
@eg39285 жыл бұрын
I love the bolt to press the bushing in, trying to figure out how to do it on my Pete, I'm a new owner operator and can't afford a $1200 bushing press or shop labor for someone else to do something I can do, you are genious. In the past I've pulled the whole spring out and used a buddies press. I'm giving your method a shot on my next pin/bushing job!
@57bagre5 жыл бұрын
I hope it works out good for you.
@directorvictaven6 жыл бұрын
I have looked for days on how to remove a pin on a small trailer and everyone has bolt leaves. Your video has explained very well on how I need to get these pins out. THANK YOU!!!
@peterfrb5 жыл бұрын
I am preparing to do a similar job in a couple of old Scania trucks and watching this video is just fantastic! Thanks for sharing!
@davidhale85737 жыл бұрын
Your videos have helped me keep my kw on the road and out of the shop. I'm always willing to learn. Thank you sir.
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir. Glad to hear that.
@isaaccharles40514 жыл бұрын
Great video sir I am new to your channel I am a journeyman heavy equipment mechanic and already have nine years of experience so far thanks to my dad who was a great diesel technician he died last year before he passed away he taught me a couple of things about heavy duty trucks and earthmoving equipment thanks for the videos learning a lot God bless you and be safe out there
@mrblack616 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload. I've got to go through the suspension on my my old 7.5 ton D series Ford at some point so good to see the general process. I like the Saturday night washer bit, a lesser mechanic might have downed tools till monday. All the best from UK
@57bagre6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@BW8x107 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I used to use a torch to burn out bushings, though now I have turned a piece of tool stock down to make a driver to drive the bushing out. I use a zip gun (air hammer) and it works great. I have also turned a installation pilot so I can use my zip gun to put the bushing back in.
@stevenhaviland98447 жыл бұрын
would love to see a pic of that
@stevejobsmichel62536 жыл бұрын
HI FROM MEXICO
@fernandosalas64026 жыл бұрын
BW8x10 the torch use only is Rubber bushing bro
@timamyett4 жыл бұрын
Wrap any lines that are prone to burning with tinfoil. We leave the shackle on the side we are removing it too, and with a palm nailer if we cant use a hammer and an old 1/2 inch drive extension push the pins out together attached as a unit from the other side. Sometimes it takes the bushing with it..... if you jam a thin wedge under the curl of the spring... basically you are enlarging the part that holds the bushing temporarily releasing the friction on the bushing. Thanks, great video. Reminds me I gotta go grease my truck!
@blahbadyblah4 жыл бұрын
The trick to getting everything lined up is to use a single lift point in the very center. Watch the pins and shackles when you lift it. You'll see the point where there's no pressure on the pins. I replace pins, hangers, shackles, springs, and shocks all at once because the parts are super-inexpensive and it's all done at once. It takes about 30 minutes of minimal effort each side.
@shatteredsquare2 жыл бұрын
thanks
@michaeldunagan8268 Жыл бұрын
Uh--- -- I do not find the leafsrings as "inexpensive": $730.00 August 2022 Chicago Area fir the soring and fasteners; no shackes or brackets.
@2cool4spool16 Жыл бұрын
You’re what most would call a suspension guru. Good on ya for honing the craft
@TheProcter7 жыл бұрын
Very cool I've been a mechanic for many years on gas truck and car, I'm moving into diesel and air brake systems all your videos are very helpful
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir. I break a few rules but I always get it done, I won't upload it until it is fixed. Thanks for subscribing.
@dirt-fishnalabama6378 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info great idea on the bolt to pull the bushings in. I'm going to be installing a complete set on a peterbuilt tonight looks like same setup thanks.
@57bagre8 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, I hope you don't need to go through as much as I did on mine. Thanks for watching.
@noeunkim74517 ай бұрын
Love your video! You are passing down knowledge for future owner operator.
@Vater14 жыл бұрын
If this were my grandfather I would be out there with him as much as possible
@57bagre4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had a son or grandson with that attitude. I'd settle for a neighbor kid.
@orvinalaniz73884 жыл бұрын
Mr. Gordon you are a great teacher Sir. God bless you! for such a wonderful talent, im waching your videos and learning many tricks from you Sir. Thank you for your videos and your talent!!
@geoestrada5001 Жыл бұрын
Thanks brother you doing great, I will start grease this bushing make sure nothing happening in the future, thanks again
@aarondiaz27736 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. Excellent stuff. Now to go do my Century, but ATLEAST I have a good reference now.
@57bagre6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting Aaron.
@wvega1826 жыл бұрын
Just what I need, I have to change the spring bushings too on my truck, but this is a good video, I also have a fld, thank you sir, for taking the time to record the process
@57bagre5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@bernals9477 жыл бұрын
Need to grease more often,also if you don't keep your 5th wheel greased up and slippery for your king pin plate on trailer it puts a lot of strain on the steering wearing on you spring hangers bushings ect. so keep your 5th wheel lubed real good
@ChariotLogistics2 жыл бұрын
Learning something important today, Thank you for your time and effort posting this video.
@skwlogistics36987 жыл бұрын
thanks for putting this video up, I'm fixing to do my peterbilt 387, this helps out a lot. thanks
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, thank you for the comment and for watching.
@jdsoler89894 жыл бұрын
Another great video, thank you sir for share. God Bless You !
@robertscott82277 жыл бұрын
I have heard so many people saying no heat . I worked for kw, pete and Volvo over the past 22+yrs. we used this technique most of the time . it works very well.
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
a dealer mechanic told me that they burn them out so I do it like that because I have no doubts about my torch work, I do have a lot of torch and welding experience. I only had 1 or 2 negative comments about that, I guarantee that person who left those comments has no clue how to do any torch work or weld either.
@stevenhaviland98447 жыл бұрын
If you didnt burn them out, how would you get them out?
@robertatwood25037 жыл бұрын
Steven Haviland we used to use a hydraulic ram that had a hole through the cylinder spacers and washers with pull it right out or like the dude said in the comment above you could use an air chisel I've never done it that way
@robertatwood25037 жыл бұрын
Steven Haviland oh yeah then you take a Rheem for final sizing
@cheguevara55604 жыл бұрын
@@robertatwood2503 Yes ,it can be done with chisel another option is shackle pin bushes bushes installer which can be made on lathe , this metod with oxy cutting is fine longest you dont cut inside of the spirng eye .
@2cool4spool16 Жыл бұрын
Way to be thorough. Lots of insight for guys who haven’t messed with this sort of thing.
@57bagre Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@dhillonsavee3 жыл бұрын
You are great guy and good experienced drive / mechanic
@michaelshaffer90517 жыл бұрын
I would frozen the shackle bushing overnight then would slide in. Everyone has their way. Using a torch properly saves lot of headaches. Nice video I learn something every time I watch you!
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir. A house freezer only goes down to 15 - 20 f normally, that's 50 - 60 degrees colder than outside on a warm day, not much difference, a torch can warm up that eye on that spring 500 degrees fast without hurting the temper, (10 times the difference) but I still like the threaded rod. A lot of people believe the freezer will do it, I never tried it because I already know it's not that much temperature difference. Thanks again.
@michaelshaffer90517 жыл бұрын
Gordon Robertson My teacher in welding school had us do it all the time with shop frozer. Worked every time I done it! Hope helps
@tiorobot7 жыл бұрын
thank you for posting. there was a lot of great ideas in this video. I replaced mine in December of 2012 or2013
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I hope you didn't have as much trouble as I did.
@jesusconde80714 жыл бұрын
Love your work ethic!!!! Learn something today
@jasenbeshears67234 жыл бұрын
Buddy you made this look easy! Thank you. Now I need to set up an appointment to have you do mine! Lol
@57bagre4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jasen.
@john-lindawhitman66775 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing the information with the new people
@57bagre5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@eldudeareno114 жыл бұрын
Great video. Gonna do this on my 07 classic soon. I'm told never to change the front cause they last a lifetime
@markarmstrong33944 жыл бұрын
Gordon I'm watching some of your old videos. Their Great !
@57bagre4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark.
@toughflyer7 жыл бұрын
Gordon Robertson like the vid I really need to do one side of my 388 Pete but am a bit hesitant as if I can't accomplish the job then I'll have my source of income stuck in my driveway! Lol thanks for making these videos you do
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
The only special tool you will need is a torch and someone who knows how to use it, you know someone who has one, have him look at my video and ask him if he will come and do it with you. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@CVD-di1xn7 жыл бұрын
This was very informative. Thank You. Keep up the good work.
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@FernandoRodriguez-wu9hc7 жыл бұрын
very helpful video thanks I'm in the process of changing them on my 2003 freightliner century
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, I've not done that on the Century, I hope it goes well for you.
@dennisternent29742 жыл бұрын
I can relate to you working on your old truck. I am 73 and drive a 1970 Kenworth conventional. I do all my own work on the truck. Takes a bit longer but I get it done.
@57bagre2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dennis
@Dieseltechash4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks Gordon.
@ropeman3916Ай бұрын
I meant to add that I'm impressed how well the spring lined up with the hangar upon reinstall. Every time I've done this the front end racks a bit and I need to use a come along and realign everything.
@ropeman3916Ай бұрын
Well I obviously wrote that too soon!!😂😂
@neerajnirantar5 жыл бұрын
Very informative. I could able to understand how loose bushings ,washers,shims can movement in leaf spring which in turn develop irregular wear in tire.Very informative .Thankyou for sharing such video.
@57bagre5 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@brookerleerich6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Nicely done. I learned a lot from that, Thank you
@57bagre6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, commenting and subbing.
@sean75545 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. The suspension on my peterbuilt makes a pop, whenever I turn the steering wheel to far left or right. Went over to my brothers house to have him turn the wheel to confirm that it is in fact the leaf springs bushing doing it. So it's time to get to it. I hate taking the truck to the shop. So this video really helps.
@57bagre5 жыл бұрын
Good luck, it's a big job. Be sure to put as many shims on the pins as you can.
@jesseortega85984 жыл бұрын
Great Stuff Gordon!
@ivankirsanov59278 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you very much! I'm also subscribed on your channel. Very helpful videos. I hope you will continue sharing your nice experience!
@57bagre8 жыл бұрын
Thank you too! and thanks for subscribing.
@samrugtiv55637 жыл бұрын
good video this old boy knows his stuff
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir.
@ambiguoussoul12467 жыл бұрын
pretty slick. thanks for the video.
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, hope it helps if you're doing something like that.
@scottwright5803 жыл бұрын
You do good work Gordon. Seems like everything I do to my truck takes a torch🤣. 2000 Ih 9200.
@57bagre3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott.
@bradi50503 жыл бұрын
Your a great mechanic to awesome job sir
@alexshortsplus4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gordon your the greatest buddy 👋
@57bagre4 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud.
@andrewwilson83177 жыл бұрын
Made a puller out of scrap metal that screws into the grease fitting hole and it pulls stuck pins out. Just a bit of heavy tube,flat plate and threaded bar.
@javierbroger26356 жыл бұрын
Your a pro old timer!
@57bagre6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Javier
@blalockmotorfreight5378 Жыл бұрын
You are the fix it man my friend!
@paulw27913 жыл бұрын
Great video old timer!
@user-ix5ed2hc5k3 жыл бұрын
Very good video..watched many of your videos..im also an owner operator and do some of my own work..great job my friend..❤👍
@arfarms57113 жыл бұрын
Great video and dang good explanation of process. New sub. Thank you sir. I’m going to have to do this pretty soon on my T800. I haul heavy too and when I’m turning with a heavy load they’ll pop some and I don’t like that mess. Going to do king pins and these pins. King pins aren’t bad, but do have a little play in em, and I plan on keeping truck for a long time, so might as well get her right while I’m under there
@arevalod1236 жыл бұрын
damn old timer you are a pro!!!
@57bagre6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@americanbullylife95063 жыл бұрын
Hi another good video just a quick question this is the same process to replace the leaf spring bushings on all the trucks ?
@creatinet6 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your vids man, keep it up! :) Best regards from Sweden :)
@57bagre6 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@robertscott82277 жыл бұрын
I would have changed that upper bushing ,we use to replace hanger and bushing at the dealers mostly for time sake but I have pressed out the bushings I would recommend pulling it off and press it out unless your using a tiger tool set up. it was just easier for me that way with out the tiger tool or the otc tool setup.
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
I still have the aluminum bracket for that upper bushing, I do plan to change the bushing if I need to do it again or even on another truck that uses that same one. I'll just weld a bead inside the bushing to shrink it and slowly heat the aluminum if it needs it, it will slip out that way.
@U2011iphone3 жыл бұрын
Great! Think I’ll be able to do mines now...
@raytrailer14683 жыл бұрын
do you have any ideas on replacing the rear leaf-spring bushings?
@alfonsoramirez4389 Жыл бұрын
No hablo ingles, pero viendo el video, me es de gran utilidad. Gracis
@ryans83095 жыл бұрын
That's old school there...Love it.
@57bagre5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@jamesbenedict72064 жыл бұрын
No school like old school!
@hossfarran6327 Жыл бұрын
I need to removr my front leaf spring eye bolts. Internstional 4200 truck. How do i do thst safely. Im adding a shackle mount on each side so i can install a front sway bar. Thank you
@tkalmi096 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@MrCountrycuz2 жыл бұрын
Can you use a wet towel to block the heat from your flammable components?
@ropeman3916Ай бұрын
Nice job sir! I'm on deck.
@FernandoRodriguez-wu9hc7 жыл бұрын
thanks keep up the good work
@alejandro0205694 жыл бұрын
Fernando Rodriguez.
@phayakoot17 жыл бұрын
God bless you sir
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
Thank You Sir.
@berniesands62012 жыл бұрын
Is it alright to put anti seize on them or should I just use a little grease?
@MrCountrycuz2 жыл бұрын
Can you spot weld a rod to the end so that you have something to pull the pin out with?
@edenfieldjared02 жыл бұрын
thanks for posting
@omarguzman89805 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gordon
@user-kl5gm8nm6r7 жыл бұрын
Sir , I really appreciate detail direction , even thou I am not gona do it myself but now I know what goes on down there on front axle suspension . The best part is like most people with older truck like mine or yours the special tricks ( I.e - heating & cutting for pin extraction) but my question is does heating mess with Tempar of the leaf spring ?
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
Some people think it does but my personal opinion no it doesn't if you don't sit there and get it way too hot
@cesar94963 жыл бұрын
My truck makes a cracking noise when I make right turns. You think this is the problem?
@fixitjames33884 ай бұрын
How you didnt replace the bushing in the front of the hangers? Do they normally not go bad?
@jamesdavies75267 жыл бұрын
I believe if I were going to this much trouble and noting the pin wear, I would have at least had the springs re-arched if not replaced. Especially if I intended to keep the rig a while.
@dannyyo79485 жыл бұрын
8:10 that is a mudflap. or guard. brush type. We take off the top spring bracket and press out the bushing on a press. and press in the new.
@MrJeff5247 жыл бұрын
very informative ,,thank you
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir.
@justinyoung46336 жыл бұрын
that was quite ingenious...
@57bagre6 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@BigAlWillis6 жыл бұрын
recently snapped a front spring on a dump truck. after they were replaced one piece of steel doesn't set directly under the other. like lower part of the spring sticks out half inch from the upper piece. I was told in time it should straighten itself out. do you think eventually it will straighten out & safe to drive in that position?
@57bagre6 жыл бұрын
New springs do settle after a couple months of use. If a reputable spring shop made the springs, I would take their word for it. I would have to look at it myself to offer an opinion. Thanks for watching.
@rickray58846 жыл бұрын
Gordon Thank's to you I got my Clutch Adjusted With a Tap with a Hammer & extension bar THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!! . You need to put up a donation on here I will help you out and donate to your site. Thank you again!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@57bagre6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the offer but I don't know how to set that up, there used to be a link for that but it's well hidden now if it still exists. Unfortunately KZfaq does not have any tech support, everything is done on the site only.
@JasonTAho5 жыл бұрын
@@57bagre Patreon or PayPal could help you receive donations. I can only imagine the time and effort you put into your videos, hard to believe you don't try to make a little off of them.
@57bagre5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the suggestion Jason, I do have a PayPal button on my page now, it's on the lower right corner of the picture on the desktop view, I don't think it shows on the mobile app, you can change your mobile app to show in desktop view and find a lot of options the mobile doesn't have. I don't push the idea of donating because KZfaq does pay me for these videos, not enough to live on alone as of yet but as my channel continues to grow (more views and more subscribers) I will receive more pay. I still work full time driving and part time doing repair work and outdoor services, I hope to have this channel earning enough to help with retirement so I can quit driving and only work part time doing KZfaq and my other part time work when I get to retirement age which is pretty much here now but not the pay part yet. I'm going to do a video soon on how to navigate my channel so keep watching and thanks again.
@ratrod35987 жыл бұрын
Good videos 👍🏼
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
Thanks and thanks for subbing.
@87d5mzck43 жыл бұрын
In this case a sawsall is your friend instead of a torch. There is no risk of fire. Drive the pin out halfway and cut it off with the saw. Use the saw in the bushing and carefully cut a groove lengthwise in the bushing just enough to cut through. This will relieve the tension of the bushing. Then use a driver and knock the bushing out.
@50thgen2gtmustang43 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@antidiz7 жыл бұрын
One hell of a job..
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir.
@Bocheap4 жыл бұрын
Very informative, near how to video for this situation
@bsiegloff3 жыл бұрын
They are not aluminium are they? Alloy would be way too soft.
@MSLLOGGING4 жыл бұрын
Would this make a truck bounce up and down round 35 to 45 mph
@stevenhaviland98447 жыл бұрын
Great video, again. Question though, do you think putting the bushings in the freezer for a bit before installing them would ease the installation??
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
Some people think it would be easier to freeze them but I never tried it that way, I don't think it would help because the temp. difference from a house freezer to working outside really isn't that much (50 deg. or so) the temp difference from cutting out the old ones would be at least a couple hundred deg. and the thin bushings would instantly change to the temp. of the spring eye before you got done installing it. I never tried it, just doesn't make sense to me, not much temp diff. Thanks for watching.
@cheguevara55604 жыл бұрын
@@57bagre Sorry Gordon but freezing bushes it makes difference . Try and you will found out ... You dont believe in this metod but you did not try it ? It is common metod with heavy trucks applications freezing bushes and pins before instalation
@chrismayer39196 жыл бұрын
what make of truck do you own, Gordon? Freightliner? Peterbilt?
@geraldwayne62616 жыл бұрын
Make yourself a slide hammer that screws in the zerk fitting!
@danielbrown86024 жыл бұрын
Great work
@57bagre4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@owueltgonzalezperez65337 жыл бұрын
que paso mi Gordon cuando te pase eso con la muelle solo levanta el otro lado eso hará que se centre la muelle así te evitas usar el porto muy bien como resolviste eso de los bujes aun que esos bujes rnk no vienen tan duros basta con empujarlos con un tornillo de 7/8 y el martillo. un saludo y esta vez salio bueno tu video.
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
Gracias.
@toughflyer7 жыл бұрын
Gordon I got a oxy- torch and am pretty proficient at using it..... still a bit hesitant but I get pushed more to doing it myself every time the shop tells me how many thousands they want to do it
@57bagre7 жыл бұрын
Well then I guess the backup plan would be an experienced mechanic friend who doesn't know the words "I can't"
@JoeHynes2846 жыл бұрын
would have loved to see a video of you driving and explaining any difference you felt
@57bagre6 жыл бұрын
Not much difference, just the spring doesn't slide from side to side the 1/16" to 1/18" like it did before putting in the shims.
@markarmstrong33944 жыл бұрын
At 14:23 I put a Jack on a FLD like that only 1 time. A 20 ton Jack shot at me lol
@rickray58846 жыл бұрын
Nice Video I have a 1990 Model mack I am going to half to change both sides of my spring Bushings and pins. my washer is lose I know they need changing My question will this make your truck steer funny and my tire on the driver side is getting humps on it with flat spots on the out side on top of tire . Can you let me know would the spring bushings do this Thank You I love your video I learn a lot THANK YOU!!!!!
@57bagre6 жыл бұрын
I can't say that changing the pins and bushings will stop the tires from cupping, but if it needs it do it, it will help, and it will prevent further damage. You can save your steer tires if it's not too late by running them on the drives if you have enough tread left, after they run on the drive axle long enough the cupping will disappear, of course by then they will be getting too worn to use for steers but it's better than just paying to dispose of them. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@ntime20955 жыл бұрын
Did it make a popping noise when you turned?? Mines doing that on my 384
@davidmorris36805 жыл бұрын
Nathan Sutton yes they can but I would check to make sure the U-bolts on the axle are tight.