How To Check, Adjust & Reset Mechanical Zero On A Rifle Scope - SEE NEW VIDEO
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UPDATE For August 2020... A new version of this video is up on the channel that includes some information not present in this original video from 2015. Thanks! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNigh8ih39G4mYE.html
@billhman 6 жыл бұрын
very good. I learned this trick several years ago from a Leupold scope tech. Leupold swears by this method. It really works. Thanks for the video. Well done.
@RCONSTRUCT 8 жыл бұрын
Probably the most informative, accurate, concise tutorials I have ever seen on youtube. I mean you mentioned you couldn't get the camera to show what you were seeing and you didn't even attempt it with the camera shaking around and all the other annoying things you see in other videos. You drew a simple to understand diagram and it was well drawn at that! Great video. I bought a used vintage scope and the adjustment was WAY off. This will help immensely to understand my problem. Thanks.
@CloverTac 8 жыл бұрын
+Ryan Carroll Thank you very much Ryan. I have not been doing review and stuff on KZfaq long and am learning. I catch flack the most over the length of some of the videos. I feel that I need to cover every aspect that I can. If folks are here to learn something, might as well cover as much as I can for them. In this particular video, I couldn't get the camera to look through the scope at all, so had to improvise. If you watch my reviews on the night vision or some other things, you will see the shaky, it is unavoidable sometimes and unlike Hicock45 or some of those other guys, I do not have fancy production equipment or a crew, pretty much just me, myself and I. Again, thanks for the compliment and have a great day brother.
@CloverTac 6 жыл бұрын
Since this video still gets a lot of traffic let me take this opportunity to welcome you to the channel as well as invite you to check out the newer content on the channel and participate in any or all of our 4 weekly live chats. Thank you for watching my friends!
@BigPard1974 7 жыл бұрын
I just checked my scope with this method after using the old method and it was close. Windage was only a few clicks off but elevations was about 3/4 turn. It was kinda hard to get the right eye relief without total darkness in scope but it seems to work great. Thanks for sharing.
@CloverTac 7 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the kind words. Yes, you are dead on, getting right amount of light into the objective and the right eye relieve is a bit tricky. Sadly, it is hard to explain how to get it spot on every time because each scope is a little different. But, as you use the method, you will be able to adjust all of that pretty quickly just by what you see.
@driverpetersen 8 ай бұрын
I am glad they did not take your video down, I did just as you instructed and got my scope set back to zero, out of all the videos I watched yours is the best. Thank you for sharing.
@CloverTac 8 ай бұрын
awesome, in the future if you need help with this sora thing again, you SHOULD take a look at the new version of this video... first of all, the presentation think i much better than this old piece of junk BUT there is also a few new tidbits of info in relation to newer technologies in scopes
@pramagli 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video lesson. I just did it on my scope and it worked beautifully.
@CloverTac 6 жыл бұрын
you bet, glad you found it useful
@craignapoli 4 жыл бұрын
I love your video, thank you so very much for your straight forward, simple and highly effective method of zeroing a rifle scope.
@CloverTac 4 жыл бұрын
thanks, wish i could take credit for coming up with it but i can't.... some old guy at a local gun shop told me about it
@johncherry2205 6 жыл бұрын
Great job, really easy way to reset your zero, thanks
@CloverTac 6 жыл бұрын
glad you found it helpful, thanks for watching, don't forget to check out all the new content and live streams if you are interested
@justinvandervort7581 3 жыл бұрын
I was trying to avoid running my turrets all the way down. Finally stumbled across your video. Much thanks, really! Will be checking out your other stuff too.
@CloverTac 3 жыл бұрын
appreciated, hope you find more you enjoy
@mikewalsh511 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for this one.
@CloverTac 3 жыл бұрын
you bet BUT this video is OLD, for the updated version, see the link in the card, end screen, comments or here... it might fill in some gaps that i overlooked or apply now days to more modern optics. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNigh8ih39G4mYE.html
@justliketolook 7 жыл бұрын
You should add that if your scope has adjustable power to set it to the lowest power and if it has a parallax adjustment to set that to infinity
@CloverTac 7 жыл бұрын
YES! You are correct. At the time I was not thinking of those things as this idea was new to me. I need to try and figure out how to add that to the video somehow. I am not too familiar with how to edit an existing video or if that is even possible.
@justliketolook 7 жыл бұрын
You can just add it under the video in your description
@lmdetect 7 жыл бұрын
justliketolook Great catch!
@lorenzodicocco3748 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that added tip as my scope has both of those features.
@Sertao2013 5 жыл бұрын
Another tip is if your scope has lighted cross hairs be sure to turn them on . Its makes it easier to see,and you won't need the extra glass over the mirror .
@wibble1999 7 жыл бұрын
superb technique. Many thanks Dave
@CloverTac 7 жыл бұрын
you are most welcome, just remember if you have a variable power, set it on the lowest setting and if your objective is adjustable, set it to infinity :)
@RickNethery 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip, I will try this method. I have also found that You can use a mirror to check a rifle scopes rough windage. If You take a scoped rifle and aim it at a mirror, You will see quickly if the muzzle and the scope are not lined up properly.
@CloverTac 6 жыл бұрын
ah, yeah, very valid point... a safe way to muzzle flash yourself i guess isn't it LOL
@craignapoli 4 жыл бұрын
Well thank you so much for sharing.
@CloverTac 4 жыл бұрын
you bet, thanks for the comment
@chrislang5659 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! In theory that is the greatest system ever! Thanks for sharing!
@CloverTac 3 жыл бұрын
this one is super old, still very popular BUT as the title and thumb say, there is a new updated version. yep, you would be surprised what you can learn just sitting around a gun shop listening to the old guys
@jertex4792 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I did it a little differently. I used a padded vice to hold the scope steady and perfectly level about 3/8" above the mirror. This worked much better for me, but I wouldn't have known how to do this at all if I hadn't watched your video.
@CloverTac 7 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome. The method you used certainly should work, the idea is simply to get a reflection of the cross hairs.
@StewartCountyBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your time and content... big thumbs up
@CloverTac 3 жыл бұрын
you bet, always my pleasure
@BuntaBall40 5 жыл бұрын
Great video mate
@CloverTac 5 жыл бұрын
thank ya sir
@ironhead320 6 жыл бұрын
You tip helped big time I have a AIM scope couldn't get it sighted even with a boresighter man did your tip it was way out reset the hairs and got it laser sighted now target time
@CloverTac 6 жыл бұрын
That is excellent to know and you are very welcome!
@davidgalitzine2873 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the help it worked
@CloverTac 4 жыл бұрын
nice to hear, man this video is OLD and still trucking along helping folks. i have thought about making an updating version so i can talk about the issues with this method and variable power, first focal plane, etc. thanks for the comment.
@jiwilliamshouston 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing this, I have a scope that is giving me fits and I couldn't determine if it was the rings, the scope mount or barrel mounting. When I zero the scope on a collimator I'm almost out of windage adjustment. I'm going to get a mirror and glass and try this to bring the scope back to center and see where that puts me. I understand that counting clicks between the stops might be a false reading. This is on a long range setup for an aftermarket 10/22 receiver and barrel with a Bushnell 5-15 3200 series scope.
@CloverTac 7 жыл бұрын
It could help by getting you to a more central starting point. Going long range on a .22 may require an elevated rail too. Counting clicks does work ok but as springs & gears wear it can get off kilter a bit.
@drdobbs007 4 жыл бұрын
I just found your video. Great Idea! The comments are important regarding magnification and crosshairs illumination. Aug-2020
@CloverTac 4 жыл бұрын
yes they are, why i appreciate good helpful comments. all to often you just get rudeness or trolls LOL I probably should do an updated video and likely will one day when I get caught up on everything else
@ShotgunJay. 8 жыл бұрын
brilliant, will check this tomorrow.
@CloverTac 8 жыл бұрын
+Spiritual Trigger thanks, wish i could say it was an original idea, came from an old timer hanging around a gun shop one day. :) It is a great way to check a used scope before buying it though.
@jimkennedy8353 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks this helped me get all my scopes back to zero. I appreciate your help
@CloverTac 8 жыл бұрын
+Jim Kennedy Thank you, wish I could take credit for it but came from an old timer. Guess you can always learn. :) It certainly helps get back to a mechanical zero which is useful when swapping it over to another rifle.
@failingdisciple938 4 жыл бұрын
The glass is a great idea!
@donniebrite9170 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my God man I have lost a ton of videos on how to do that and this is the first f****** time I've ever heard anybody suggest what you are suggesting I'm about to go try it and if it works I am so glad you shared this info because I've been fighting with this old antique scope for f****** couple months now I haven't broken anything in it I know that but I fiddled around with it too much and I can't find who the hell made the damn thing I just know that it says Marlin on it and I know Marlin didn't make scopes but after you explain this method the theory behind a hold water in my mind song about try this s*** thank God it's on the 22 cuz with the amount of ammo I sent down range trying to get this damn thing zeroed in if it were a bigger caliber I would have been so pissed again thank you brother you probably just saved me a thousand more damn 22 rounds
@CloverTac 4 жыл бұрын
LOL hopefully you can get er lined out.... this is an OLD one and the reason i made it was because i could not find anything on it myself. must not be a lot of videos on this around either because this one continues to get good traffic year after year. thanks for the comment
@Americanblood76 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent tidbit.
@CloverTac 5 жыл бұрын
thanks buddy, wish i could claim it was an original concept
@josephstevenbrideau1975 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@CloverTac 4 жыл бұрын
you bet, hope it helped
@paulflores5499 6 жыл бұрын
You might also be able to use clear lens from welders hood too, Thanks for the tip.
@CloverTac 6 жыл бұрын
oh yeah, the point is to have some space under the objective that can bring in light. just about anything clear and flat would probably work.
@joec2442 5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@CloverTac 5 жыл бұрын
good to know.. ty
@marcusschaefer2447 4 жыл бұрын
Great info
@CloverTac 4 жыл бұрын
thanks, wish i had came up with it LOL
@CloverTac 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching the video and hopefully you found it useful. There are lots of great videos on the channel organized by playlists and we also do four regularly scheduled live streams each week with varying topics. We would love to see you there participating in the chat.
@dawkinss2422 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good idea. Will try it on my Aipa scope.
@CloverTac 6 жыл бұрын
let me know if you have issues or can't make it work
@dawkinss2422 6 жыл бұрын
CloverTac the only thing I think I see moving is the windage, I don’t think I see the elevation moving.
@CloverTac 6 жыл бұрын
that does not sound good
@shep6123 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@CloverTac 3 жыл бұрын
my pleasure, if you wanna update, mgiht check out the NEW version of this because as it saysi n the title and thumb this video is OLD
@ironhead320 6 жыл бұрын
After I put the bore sighted one man it was about 12 o clock in the center of target what luck just have to turn up a little to get it dead on.
@CloverTac 6 жыл бұрын
awesome
@DJPLAYNICE 3 жыл бұрын
5 years ago! Glad I swam upstream in the way back machine.
@CloverTac 3 жыл бұрын
actually, there is a MUCH better more modern version that i did this year... this video is super popular and has helped a lot of people, so decided to do an updated version
@DJPLAYNICE 3 жыл бұрын
@@CloverTac Really glad you did! Thanks again.
@MrTxTrapper 7 жыл бұрын
On your drawing, the dark line seems to be centered in the circle, so would I move the light line to the left and down to center the scope? thanks, tx South Texas
@CloverTac 7 жыл бұрын
the key is to bring the two crosshairs together as one
@TonedMars 6 жыл бұрын
To keep it short, I bought a brand new rifle, put a scope I already had on it, scopes in great condition, went to range, could not get scope sight in, bore sighted an all, it seemed I couldn’t get anymore leftward adjustments do you think I should give this a go?
@CloverTac 6 жыл бұрын
this really won't fix an issue where this lack of adjustment. how much adjustment you have is determined by the specs on the scope that said, this will get you back to a true mechanical zero and may allow you to easier determine the issue, be it rings, mount, scope or even a firearm issue like a boogered up crown.
@safecracker45 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@CloverTac 6 жыл бұрын
anytime
@ironhead320 5 ай бұрын
This works great had to do it perfect
@CloverTac 5 ай бұрын
it is a little tricky, yep
@ironhead320 5 ай бұрын
@@CloverTac what type.of.mounts you have for.the.scope I got.a.1894 I really don't feel like knocking off the first site and the front.of my scope is hitting it
@CloverTac 5 ай бұрын
the original Westernfield rings that came with the Westernfield scope on that Westernfield rifle back in the 70s 🤣😂 there are probably companies still making that design now days but might take a little searching to find. might look for stuf marked as "see through rings"
@rlknight57 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Bushnell Sportview 4X32 I tried this on. I noticed because of parallax the relationship of the crosshairs can change quit a bit just by how I look through the scope.
@CloverTac 4 жыл бұрын
you have to be looking through dead center, for sure... not sure what you are saying here exactly but you should see two sets of crosshairs, even if they move the gap between them should remain the same... are you saying that is not the case?
@rlknight57 4 жыл бұрын
If you move your head up, down, or side to side I can make the double image I see of the reticles get closer to lining up or farther apart just as I would by turning the adjustment knobs. I understand I need to look dead center through the scope but how do I know when I am doing that?
@CloverTac 4 жыл бұрын
@@rlknight57 that is a good question and other than just knowing, not sure i have an answer for that. i have never really experienced the particular issue you describe. have you tried adjusting the eyepiece to see if that makes the issue better or worse, maybe you are dealing with a focus issue of some sort. also, it is quite possible ones eyesight or prescription glasses could come into play as well. this is a weird one. sadly, this tip came from an old man in a gun shop and he has been dead and gone for years, so asking him isn't an option. that said, this video has always and continues to get a lot o comments so maybe someone else can chime in with advice.
@halfdollar86 7 жыл бұрын
I bought a scope used that has 18 mils of elevation adjustments. I put it on my rifle and after I zeroed it I only have 5 mils left. So I bought a 20 MOA base and now I have about 10.5 mils of elevation. Do you think if I use this method it could help me get more elevation out of my scope?
@CloverTac 7 жыл бұрын
No, this only re centers the adjustments it will not give you any extra. How much elevation does the scope have in total? Something just does not sound right there.
@TN-pw2nl 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this advice. I bought two picture frames and a mirror at Dollar Tree for $3 + tax and reset one of my scopes. Thanks again.
@CloverTac 6 жыл бұрын
nice! yeah, this video is old but I was in a dollar tree a few weeks back and seen those, thought to myself, huh, that is a way cheaper way to go!
@hostilityy 7 жыл бұрын
how can I make a rifle scope zero to stop moving? it's pretty accurate but the zero moves to a different location after a couple dozen shots and it's very accurate in that new location etc
@CloverTac 7 жыл бұрын
hostilityy does your point of impact walk off further the more you shoot? do you let the rifle cool and try again? what scope? what rings? what base? what rifle?
@CloverTac 7 жыл бұрын
I never did hear back from him after asking my questions, guess he figured it out or gave up one.
@500magnum6 Жыл бұрын
@clovertac do you carry a backup gun for edc? I l like to a a full size 1911 and Taurus 856 ultra lite in 38 special
@CloverTac Жыл бұрын
very, very rarely and if so it is usually something like my naa mini revolver
@500magnum6 Жыл бұрын
@@CloverTac those naa are awesome little revolver's their so tiny you can fit in anything
@pukebucket5360 7 жыл бұрын
I just bought this scope. I used your mirror method to factory center the scope. I found that the mirrored image of the crosshairs are upside down from the actual etched crosshairs. Is this a factory defect or what am I doing wrong?
@CloverTac 7 жыл бұрын
Oh, WOW! I have never ran into that before, very interesting. I am sure it has to do with how the glass is set up in the scope. What brand and model scope is it? I will take a look and see.
@CloverTac 7 жыл бұрын
Luke, after reading about the specs on that scope, I am all but positive it has to do with the way it is constructed on the side. The manual talks about "The scope includes a Spherical Structure to control the interaction between the inner and outer tubes of the scope, which provides long lasting reliability in these interaction and ensures the reticle would not rotate when adjusting. This smart design makes the scope shockproof and provides more precise windage and elevation adjustment." That is likely the culprit here.
@ChildofYHVH Жыл бұрын
I just bought a scope for my pellet rifle. I put it on and attempted to sight it in at 22-25 yards and ran out of down adjustment and it’s still shooting 6”-8” high. I just reset mine and I’m hoping this will help with the issue. Great video btw.
@CloverTac Жыл бұрын
wow, that is a lot! not sure this will help but two things... first, there is a new version of this video out and so i would highly recommend you look that one up. in fact it should be linked in the description of this old video. second, with it being that much off, i would advise you check and double check the installation of the scope. it may not be seated in the rings properly, the rings or base may not be seated properly, etc. it does not take but things being off a hair as far as everything being flush and level to throw things way, way off. let us know if you get it sorted out with a follow up on what you found.
@ChildofYHVH Жыл бұрын
@@CloverTac K. Appreciate it. I ended up sending it back after I posted. I turned the turrets some and something just didn’t feel right when I would turn them. I think it had something going on inside. Hopefully the one they send out will be better.
@ChildofYHVH Жыл бұрын
Well I found the problem. Lol. I put another scope on and had the same problem. I got to looking at the gun (Crosman Shockwave .22) and it turns out the barrel somehow got bent upwards and was causing it to shoot high. I bent the barrel back as straight as I could and tried it again and boom on paper. Adjusted the scope and put three in the same hole at 27 yards. I just knew for sure it was the scope. SMH.
@CloverTac Жыл бұрын
well, that will do it too 😂🤣 glad you figured it out
@howieskully594 7 жыл бұрын
My scope will not center. The cross hairs move but they will not line up. They adjusters are at their limit but they are still not lining up. Does this mean the scope is bad ? You say there are other methods but you do not list them
@CloverTac 7 жыл бұрын
do you have it set to lowest power? objective set to infinity? is it a first focal plane scope? the other method is to count total clicks, then adjust 1/2 way. it is possible your scope is off somehow, lower quality scopes do not typically return to zero very well.
@howieskully594 7 жыл бұрын
I believe it is no good. I went to the manufacturer channel to make sure i was adjusting it correctly and found 2 other guys had the exact same problem. Manufacturer confirmed with them the scopes were bad and they both returned their scopes for refunds. On phone now with scope dealer.
@CloverTac 7 жыл бұрын
Let us know the brand and or model, that might help someone else's decision if they are looking at that one, save them some trouble maybe.
@lorenzodicocco3748 5 жыл бұрын
I just used this technique on my Nikon Monarch 3. I did it by clicks first to see how close it would be. Then I used the mirror and I had to adjust about 1.5 MOA. Awesome idea. Thanks for the tip.
@CloverTac 5 жыл бұрын
sweet! wish i could take all the credit but this was taught to me by a random old timer at a gun shop counter one day.
@rafiqulikram3873 6 жыл бұрын
Can someone help me in my case Bullet hit under cross and when i want to turn the turret for zeroing Just little more turn before it zero but my turret look like already get max turn.its dont want to turn anymore what must i do ?
@CloverTac 6 жыл бұрын
this will not help you, it sounds like you have reached maximum elevation. this can be for several reasons, cheaper scopes typically do not offer nearly as much adjustment as the more expensive ones. there could be a manufacturing issue with the scope. the scope could not be sitting level in the ring or on the mounts. and, finally, you are just trying to zero at such a range you are going to require a elevated MOA rail or mount. what scope are you using? what rings? what mount? what rifle? and at what distance do you want a zero?
@appalachiangunman9589 5 жыл бұрын
You may benefit from a larger main tube size if you don’t already have the biggest size, if you have a 1” tube you may do better with a 30mm tube. If you want to keep your same scope you may try using a lower mount/ring setup if possible, and as the gentleman before me commented you could try an elevated rail to give you some extra MOA value.
@marcspace5144 4 жыл бұрын
Went to the shop buy a mirror and two pieces of plexi class. Put a light there and look through the scope ...Saw only ONE crosshair !!! Have a FFP scope primair Arms . Might only work with SFP ?? Did not bring anything no matter magnification I use or tun he parallax.
@CloverTac 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, this is old school, not going to work for FFP
@domingoscesar7387 3 жыл бұрын
Goodnight friend... I would like to ask some questions ... 1) is this method valid for SFP and FFP telescopes? 2) at which zoom do you recommend doing the process? 3) should the parallax be five yards, or at infinity? I'm grateful if you help me ... THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!
@CloverTac 3 жыл бұрын
please go see the updated video, i explain all that, if you have questions after that, let me know kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNigh8ih39G4mYE.html
@domingoscesar7387 3 жыл бұрын
@@CloverTac Thank you friend... I will try, I will try, I am from BRAZIL, I do not speak and do not even understand English😂😂😂😂, I am using the Google translator to ask the questions, but from the images you can understand a little, I searched on KZfaq, but there is no explanation about that in my language.... Thanks for answering...
@CloverTac 3 жыл бұрын
@@domingoscesar7387 este método não funciona para escopos FFP. a ampliação precisa ser definida para a configuração mais baixa. espero que isso ajude você meu amigo, obrigado por assistir do Brasil
@domingoscesar7387 3 жыл бұрын
@@CloverTac Thanks for helping me, nice to know that we managed to communicate with google translator ... A hug...
@CloverTac 3 жыл бұрын
@@domingoscesar7387 de nada, a tecnologia pode ser muito útil, não seja um estranho
@thefatfrog713 4 жыл бұрын
I learn something new
@CloverTac 4 жыл бұрын
same way i felt years ago when i heard two old timers talking about it at the gun shop... so had to go home, try it, then make a video. if you ain't learning something new every day, you ain't living right.
@thefatfrog713 4 жыл бұрын
I heard some guys discuss truing up a scope once but you were the first to show how to do it . So yes sir , I did pick up something I liked ,subscribed, & hit bell . Once in a while you might read something that may be a help . Been taking them apart and trying to get back working for about 57 years . Be back to see watch you'er doing .
@ezridr1234 7 жыл бұрын
I've discovered a slight problem here. Not with the method described in this video but rather the scopes themselves. I was aware of this method before coming here but decided to search this method out in hopes I'd learn something new i wasn't already aware of, and low and behold badaboom! i did. I learned something new from the post below talking about turning the power down and parallax to infinity. While setting the parallax i noticed my shadow reticle is moving around substantially, and I'm talking a LOT of movement. Anyone else see this problem, or does this mean i have a bad misaligned scope? Am i doing something wrong? can't see how but none the less i figure the click counts can't possibly be equally correct using this method if the shadow retical is shifting all over the place by simply turning the focus dial around? Anybody have some input on this problem, does it even matter? suggestions etc? My shadow reticle begins low right but as i spin the parallax dial eventually my reticle is too left almost lined up with the actual retical. So that being said there's no way this method will work for me. So I'm going to run thru the counting method and then this method to see how much of any difference i come up with. Maybe setting everything back to the lowest and or max reaches will eliminate this issue, idk. Thanks.
@CloverTac 7 жыл бұрын
Once reset with power down and parallax to infinity, there should not be an issue. If it is not a first focal plane scope, then some deviation is normal when making these adjustments.
@CloverTac 7 жыл бұрын
You do make a good point on "counting clicks". This is simply a way to get "close". If you are going to put it on another rifle then re zero to that rifle anyway, being at complete zero is not necessarily a huge thing. But, this is quick and it can keep you from being way, way off paper.
@ezridr1234 7 жыл бұрын
CloverTac CloverTac Define first local plane for me? if possible in here. And yes it's going on another rifle, reason i need to square it back up is because i had it mounted on an air rifle temporally trying to rule out another scope or the rifle itself being bad. i had to use risers to mount it to that gun and because of how they fell, the scope was way out of square. at one point i had to dial it right till she bottomed out. i fixed that problem to the minimum by loosening and tightening the mounting bolts. gave me just enough room to get the reticle off that side to be able to shoot the thing. Anyhow, my Damm scope on my colt AR crapped out on me couple weeks ago so I'm moving this one over to it temporarily until my new order shows up. The top turret popped the ball and spring, pissed me off giving what i paid for that one. Oh btw, i wasn't able to use this method on it turns out. just couldn't trust it. The scope ended up being 300clicks on the horizontal plane and 150 vertical. this equated out to about 4.5 turns of the dial, after applying the mirror the horizontal was only 1-1/4 turns in as suppossed to 2-1/4. So anywho,, thanks for the reply and happy shooting! Keep it safe.
@CloverTac 7 жыл бұрын
I am sure you can find much more detailed info on first focal plane scopes either here or with a quick Google search. It can be an involved topic. The short version would be this...... First, FFP scopes are fairly new and they are more expensive. With your traditional plane scopes, the reticle sits towards the rear of the optic and as a result does not change when the scope is adjusted. Therefore, that reticle is only accurate on one particular setting. With a FFP, the reticle sits on the first focal plane, so all subsequent adjustments affect the reticle so that it remains accurate throughout all adjustments.
@ezridr1234 7 жыл бұрын
CloverTac yeah i felt stupid after asking that one. spoiled by texting to much i guess. So yeah i looked it up and checked it all out. makes sense to me, I've just never seen that pointed out when shopping for scopes in stores and whatnot. Now I've gotta look up how to tell which one your currently looking thru, lol. how does one tell if you happen to have an old or used scope, know what i mean? Thanks for your help!
@DJPLAYNICE 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the glass used to add diffused light; what glass did you use? Are there any types that would effect the process like light distortion? Enjoyed the video.
@CloverTac 3 жыл бұрын
so, there is a reason there is a new version of this... i wished more would click the end screens, links, or read the thumbnail, the updated version contains a lot more information than this old version. that said, the glass is really only used to allow enough light into the scope for this process to work. scopes need light, right, so just sitting the objective on a mirror gets you nothing but black. i believe the glass i used here was just from cheap picture frames, nothing fancy.
@everetthunt6140 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@CloverTac 5 жыл бұрын
old school trick, old guy who old me this years ago recently passed away too, cool tips like this are dying out by the day
@everetthunt6140 5 жыл бұрын
@@CloverTac Indeed. I used this method for my scope. Seems to work out well, and I'll verify it next time I get out to the range. Until now I have only used Iron Sights and I found the method you showed to be very helpful and much less time consuming. Thanks!
@CloverTac 5 жыл бұрын
@@everetthunt6140 go to know, thanks my friend
@UnknownUzer 6 жыл бұрын
The 4x6 glass panes was ingenious.
@CloverTac 6 жыл бұрын
dang, you watching some OLD stuff bro! lol yeah, it does help, still a little tricky to do this though, takes some time and practice because of the eye relief.
@UnknownUzer 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was in a mood to browse , so I've been checking out some of your older catalog of stuff. Shared this one with my brother who is always talking about resetting his scopes.
@CloverTac 6 жыл бұрын
cool, thanks for browsing around, this is still to this day one of my best performing videos
@MidnightRangeTM 5 жыл бұрын
Quit brown nosing
@angelofrias6734 7 жыл бұрын
i can't see anything when i look though my scope into the mirror. why i need it back to factory settings
@CloverTac 7 жыл бұрын
The whole trick to this is getting the right alignment through the scope and allowing right right amount of light through the objective. It is tricky because the eye relieve and amount of light an objective brings in is different depending on the brand, make and model of scope. As for why you want to reset, a good reason could be if you are transferring to another rifle. If you reset it to mechanical zero prior to mounting, then you will not be off paper near as much as the other way around. In turn you spend less time and waste less ammo getting sighted in.
@ellieprice3396 5 жыл бұрын
A very helpful video but please turn off the dishwasher in the background. Thanks.
@CloverTac 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for the comment and critique, this is an old video and at the time there was no way to get around having to run the AC here in Texas. new videos are much better via a quieter AC and better microphones.
@22lr_plinking 4 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@donniebrite9170 4 жыл бұрын
One reason why I want to it's cuz I got a f****** antique Marlin model 400a made in Japan scope that's a complete mystery on who the hell the company wasn't made it and I can't find no info on it despite hours and hours of searching and I can't get a zero then so I want to take it back to Mechanical zero to be able to 0 perfectly again because I was able to before and I took the whole damn thing apart and cleaned it and I know I got the lenses in back correctly I just don't have the windage in the elevation set correctly and for being a more likely a cheap o scope from the 70s that came on the model 60 I have now and I pulled it off and put a 3 - 9 by 32 millimeter and just wanted to get this 4 by 32 millimeter scope re zero in cuz I'm thinking about going back to it
@theviking9167 6 жыл бұрын
Will this work with an acog?
@CloverTac 6 жыл бұрын
that is a very good question! this was a trick i was told about by an old timer, so likely he had zero experience with red dot style optics. i have never tried it but would venture to say no because of the composition and mechanics of that type of optic... but may try it just to see and would say why not give it a whirl yourself.
@appalachiangunman9589 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t really see how you could do it considering the hood that the ACOG has over the objective.
@thespringz805 7 жыл бұрын
amazing just used my bathroom mirror and fixed it!
@CloverTac 7 жыл бұрын
first time i have heard of anyone using a bathroom mirror, great job on improvising, lol
@shoppersplace 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea, but can you tell me how much the raffle tickets are????
@CloverTac 4 жыл бұрын
funny, very original, thanks
@richardturk7162 2 жыл бұрын
Just get to the point of the video stop all he BS talk. Saying ahh and um so much really gets annoying.
@CloverTac 2 жыл бұрын
just READ the thumbnail as well as the LINKS and go watch the new version 😂🤣 this old video has been watched and commented on a bunch and you are the only hater so better yet, if you are gonna have an attitude, go get your info elsewhere, thanks big boy
@richardturk7162 2 жыл бұрын
@@CloverTac I'm not a hater just pointing out areas in which you could improve your videos.
@CloverTac 2 жыл бұрын
@richard Turk ON AN OLD VIDEO! watch something new bro 😂🤣😂🤣 compared to the new stuff these old videos SUCK on just about every single front
@CloverTac 2 жыл бұрын
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@richardturk7162 2 жыл бұрын
@@CloverTac I did watch it and it is better.
@coldslugger8219 Ай бұрын
Just got an air rifle I click and click doesn’t go lower I wasted so many pellets trying to aim it dead center …I hope this video does help it’s annoying as hell when the scope isn’t working
@CloverTac Ай бұрын
this won't fix a problem, this is a reset, to center a properly working scope back to the actualy mechanical zero point. however, this may help you determine if you have a poorly mounted scope or problem with a ring or base.
@CloverTac Ай бұрын
oh, there is a also a NEW version of this video available and you SHOULD be watching that, not this old one kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNigh8ih39G4mYE.html
@coldslugger8219 Ай бұрын
@@CloverTac thanks!
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