How to Check Wiring & Coils 1972 6 HP Evinrude No Spark Problem Diagnosing Spark Issues

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How to Check Wiring & Coils 1972 6 HP Evinrude No Spark Problem Diagnosing Spark Issues

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T-Mikes Vintage Outboards Restoration

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@markjohnson4053 Жыл бұрын

T-Mike has done a great job with all his videos. It has really helped me as I collect and fix up these old pieces of history. Thanks so much and keep them coming.

@skiphinson8620 Жыл бұрын

You are THE MAN! You make these jobs look so easy. I’m just an ol dummy that loves running my 1960s and 1970s Johnson and Evinrudes. 1967 20hp Johnson, 1971 25hp Johnson, 1974 6 hp Johnson, 1976 55 hp Johnson, and a “new” 1980 4hp Evinrude... my 6hp needs your touch. It’s a good ol low hour motor but I just can’t seem to get it right. I wish I lived close by and could get it to you for your magic touch. Thanks for your videos I sure enjoy trying to learn from them.

@theguitarhero226 Жыл бұрын

Hey Mike your delivery and technique for teaching is exceptional,just a wealth of information,I enjoy your humour when you use the term overload instead of open loop on the meter

@jamespaton6393 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Mike, After watching this video, I managed to get my 1970 Johnson 9.5hp outboard motor started! you do an awesome job of teaching! Thankyou so much for inspiring and teaching me how! Keep it up man!

@joemcky1 Жыл бұрын

Best clearest step by step instruction! Thank you!

@DarenHarmon 2 жыл бұрын

So grateful I found this channel!

@MrDalegray 2 жыл бұрын

Best boat wiring video on youtube. Thank you so much. Might have to contact you for some info.

@foxfai1 Жыл бұрын

Very good instructions. Love the explanation of each steps

@Fozz420 2 ай бұрын

Going down this road right now T Mike. 69 Sportwin top cylinder piston and plug clean, low power, low spark signature on spark tester. Both ohms tests give different readings from plug wire to ground on engine but both have continuity

@L2fish 3 жыл бұрын

Love your channel! I just ordered coils and points set for my 1964 28HP Evinrude. I am getting intermittent spark on my bottom cylinder. Cleaned and set the points and new condenser. reading top coil had 4000 - 5 000 ohms. 1000 to 2000 on the bottom. Throwing parts at it now. Damn thing was running good when I stored it 10 yrs ago

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

Go ahead and replace coils points condenser and spark wires - trust me you spark issues will be over.

@pisceansailor 2 жыл бұрын

great info.. I rebuilt a 74 6hp Evinrude and something is still amiss. I will take it back from my friend I gave it to and dive in again. I found the rings in Greece and I really replaced all the seals and gaskets. I suspect coils. Thanks again.

@afleetcommand 2 жыл бұрын

Watched two of your video's excellent stuff! Have a cute little 6hp Evinrude twin to rebuild and a 25 e-start ( later model w/ electronic ignition ) that starts, idles, and runs nice....then after a period time seems like it looses spark on one cylinder at low RPMS, but still runs smooth on top.....found your channel and you certainly helped define a direction thru analysis vs.parts swapping :)

@ArtesianDistillers 3 жыл бұрын

Outstanding video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It’s very detailed and helpful

@rockerneck 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely pro level diagnostics

@flench1901 2 жыл бұрын

Wow , In my 61 years I've never seen a points file . Can I send you my motor to fix . Was running fine after setting up for years . Ran for 2 hours trolling at low speed and just quit like it ran out of fuel . Hate to buy a timing and alinement tool just to fix it . Going to pull the fly wheel in the morning and check it out . GREAT video . Thanks for posting .

@michaeljsimon 2 жыл бұрын

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@flench1901 2 жыл бұрын

@@michaeljsimon , Thanks T-Mikes , good to know . Just took the fly wheel off and have one of the points burned up so there my problem . Got good compression. My question is , is there anyway to eliminate the points all together ? Did that to an old 8N tractor way back in the day but will have to remember what I did just wondering if I can do that to this 6HP engine? Looking at the part price list and the parts are pretty cheap . Think I will just replace all the electrical and put a fresh , water pump in too while I'm at it . Guess I will need the timing tool too if I can find it . Thank you again for the video's . Been telling my friends about them . I live about a mile from a big flood control lake and have a bunch of boating/fishing friends . Always wrenching on something ,lol .

@ddd3240 Жыл бұрын

Well that was interesting. Thanks for posting it. I have that same engine. Runs like a top. Have several older engines and I enjoy your lessons.

@bradkoomler7675 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate the lesson. Thankyou

@perrysanders3614 2 жыл бұрын

Best how to video I have watch.

@rodneyatkinson2658 2 жыл бұрын

thanks t mike for the info found the problem with the 9,5 johnson 73 model .your videos are great!!!!!!!

@awesumenergy Жыл бұрын

Hi Mike, I have a 1958 35hp Evinrude Lark ... with no spark! I'll see if I can incorporate some of what I have learned from you, to get 'er fixed up! Thanks

@jordandoesmx9862 4 ай бұрын

I have a similiar problem with mine. I looked in the engine bay and i have the same oily mess in the same place. I think i will get the undertray off tomorrow and investigate. Im sure i have the same issue as it yses loads of diesel

@timpirkl2498 3 жыл бұрын

Nicely done, thanks.

@lewishensleyjr9887 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Sir. Your video is very helpful.

@cliffkorade1446 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome instructor! Thanks

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@PSMyarddog Ай бұрын

Well Done!

@israelalcantar8765 2 жыл бұрын

Are you an master Mr I like your videos and wish you lived in Kansas to help me.with my boat

@user-yb5jp3fz5t 6 ай бұрын

New to your channel. Just subscribed after watching this excellent video on coil, spark wires, points and timeing. Few questions... The coil ring and timeing bracket you use... Where do I pick those up? Are they specific to each engine? Thanks for the knowledge and help.

@michaeljsimon 6 ай бұрын

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@markstang1965able Жыл бұрын

FANTASTIC VIDEO!! When I check the coil leads I do not get 1.3 ohms , I am getting 0.60 ohms. Is that tolerable or too low? Thank you for your time. Note: I have ordered all new parts , I just wanted to know for learning sake.

@michaeljsimon Жыл бұрын

Thinking that a good reading.

@FishingDIYMacGyverWithMe 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I wish I getvaccross ir before started to repair my 25R69D first time

@richardfarb6186 Жыл бұрын

Your videos are very helpful with my project to get a 1960 5hp Sea King up and running again. It hasn't been running for the last 35 years. I'm having a major problem with pulling my flywheel. Any suggestions?

@michaeljsimon Жыл бұрын

Tighten your flywheel pullet with impact drill and hit top of puller with biggest hammer you have.

@Rue2love 11 ай бұрын

Great work but I'm lost on ac DC om. Can you make a video of how multi meters work??

@michaeljsimon 11 ай бұрын

Will do.

@samfusco8158 Жыл бұрын

Mike thanks for another great video! Where do I get the timing tools you used n this video?. While we don't use " Laissez les bons temps rouler here in Delaware, all I can say is Oui cher!!

@inthelandofmilkandhoney457 Жыл бұрын

Awesome Mike 👍

@zacjohnston657 Жыл бұрын

My 1969 Evinrude with new spark plugs has no spark and shows 4k oms on both plug wires. I'll pull off the flywheel and try cleaning the points a second time with a file instead of sand paper. Also my coils have two wires on each point instead of one like yours. Any suggestions?

@dubbelsue3584 4 ай бұрын

Hey mike. Just purchased your plug wires, and coil position ring. There are several evidence 6hp for sale in my area for $150. What should I look for when I go look at them for potentially buying?

@michaeljsimon 4 ай бұрын

Compression and gear shifting.

@chrisjohnston4369 2 жыл бұрын

Great explanation. Thank you

@eduardoyanez7282 2 жыл бұрын

Muy bueno tu video amigo, Una pregunta las bobinas externas que usan los Johnson y Evinrudes 9.9 y 15 hp del 74 al 76, tienen los mismos valores de resistencia que estas bobinas que estas probando?. Gracias espero aclarar mi duda.

@Epressroom Жыл бұрын

Question for Mike, On my 1964 18 HP Evinrude, there are 4 flathead screws under the starter assembly. Should they be removed before using the flywheel puller?

@michaeljsimon Жыл бұрын

Would need a picture

@Epressroom Жыл бұрын

@@michaeljsimon There doesn't appear to be an option to add a picture?

@michaeljsimon Жыл бұрын

@@Epressroom text to 337-278-5429

@rgboyte Жыл бұрын

Wow!

@meritz59 2 жыл бұрын

tested my old cracked coils. Got reading of .9 on primary but no reading on secondary. Bought two brand new coils, same results. What am I doing wrong? What are the odds both brand new coils are bad? Never mind, I had ohms range set wrong. Now I am reading 10,000 ohms on each wire on both coils.

@michaeljsimon 2 жыл бұрын

I test all coils old and new. Did you test new coils?

@staceytranmer3121 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for putting up some stuff on vintage ...I'm a small engine mechanic but I have to admit I'm not so schooled on the older mercury engines .specifically what I think is a 1967 merc 65 hp ..I'm trying to help a buddy out with a spark issue. Only problem is someone that didn't know what they were doing took some wires off the engine and all so attempted to rewire the ignition switch ..do you have access to a wiring diagram or a link .thanks again for your videos

@Outboard1boats 11 ай бұрын

Hey, Mike, where do you get the Rings to set the Magneto.

@michaeljsimon 11 ай бұрын

kzfaq.info/sun/PLmMizJOF01-AHzYQDdzyIFP8hirPFWKYa&si=ZGdac2HL4yhA3HXk

@kingofkracovia Жыл бұрын

Great video!

@gfraser80 Ай бұрын

Hey Mike, here’s one for you. I have 1.5 ohms on both primary windings on cylinder 1 & 2 coils, but I get no ohms on either coil when i test from coil lead to spark plug wire. The kicker, I do have spark on one of those cylinders (tested with spark tester) I’m stumped. Thoughts?

@michaeljsimon Ай бұрын

@@gfraser80 bad coils.

@gfraser80 Ай бұрын

@@michaeljsimon but I get spark from one coil?! It can be bad but still produce spark?

@michaeljsimon Ай бұрын

@@gfraser80 yes

@gfraser80 Ай бұрын

@@michaeljsimon thanks Mike. You’re an amazing resource on KZfaq.

@samtate1260 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome job thanks for your info it helps

@inthenameofmyfather3836 2 жыл бұрын

let the good times roll bro love it !!

@DavidWilliams-tj6wu 2 жыл бұрын

Great video

@melanthony2064 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir, very good info. Well done

@kentyler966 3 жыл бұрын

What do you do if you don’t have the location ring and timing pointer?

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

There are other ways - will make a video.

@nestormontagu4718 3 ай бұрын

I have 7.8k ohms between coil and plug on both coils, is this ok? No spark

@michaeljsimon 3 ай бұрын

Yes. Good reading

@nestormontagu4718 3 ай бұрын

@@michaeljsimon thanks for getting back so quick! Sorry to use up your time but I am really stuck. I have no spark, I sometimes get a faint spark on the spark tester but never on the plugs. Have tried several different plugs. HT leads been replaced, so I’m guessing points/condenser?? Thanks so much for your videos, I’m 17 years old and fix up old outboards for fun and a bit of cash!

@michaeljsimon 3 ай бұрын

Rebuild magneto. t-mikesvintageoutboards.com/product/omc-tuneup-kit-1950-70s-coils-points-plugs-wire-18-5006-18-5181-t-mike-parts/

@mikebender6308 3 жыл бұрын

I'm only getting 0.9 ohms on both coils on the primary windings would my plugs still spark.

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@douglashubbell80 2 жыл бұрын

where did you get the timing tool? and ring for the setting of the coils

@SpudMuffin88 2 жыл бұрын

I have a ? For a dual line Johnson 5.5 seahorse 1957 the Dual line that connects to the throttle which connection connects to the clear water separator fuel line or air

@michaeljsimon 2 жыл бұрын

One line is fuel the other is air. The fuel line would run thru the water separator.

@SpudMuffin88 2 жыл бұрын

@@michaeljsimon awesome cool

@FishingDIYMacGyverWithMe 2 жыл бұрын

How to check position of the coils without ring?Thanks a lot

@d.l.huntministries8131 2 жыл бұрын

I want to get a timing tool, please reply to me where I would be able to get one ? thanks for your well explained video's.

@michaeljsimon 2 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f6dgftt4s9XWiWg.html

@arcticcatkickass 3 жыл бұрын

I have no reading. Only from my plug wires to ground. Guess i need both coils. I have the same system as you. With the 2 coils and points.

@ArtesianDistillers 3 жыл бұрын

Just purchased new OMC coils for 57 Elgin 7.5hp. Coils are giving continuity buzz and 1.5 ohms. But zero reading from any lead to the screw where the wire goes. Assuming bad new coils?

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Bad Secondary Winding.

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

Check old coils for readings

@fvfgx Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much helps alot

@easymac2004 2 жыл бұрын

I have same motor no spark measuring 11k to the spark plug wire?

@michaeljsimon 2 жыл бұрын

Change points and Condensors

@easymac2004 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@HEAVYTHEP 2 жыл бұрын

i sent you a email today about a manual ?

@glennsimon3417 3 жыл бұрын

He is good

@gjpgonzo2189 3 жыл бұрын

When testing the coils where you found a high reading, and you solved it by cleaning the coils, what did you have you ohmmeter connected too?

@sd410MM 3 жыл бұрын

What would cause the magneto backing plate to lock up with the flywheel? Ran perfect for 40 years, one pull starting. Thought the engine seized but its the flywheel locking too the backing plate. Stumped....

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

Check the woodruff key on the crankshaft that the flywheel and cam fit on. Might be sheared.

@sd410MM 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaeljsimon breaker cam had cracked all the way through. What would cause the cam to fracture in narrow section? Looks as though the flywheel is running against aluminum on the block near seal around the breaker cam. Is it common for cam to break on old Johnsons?

@georgiaboy6426 3 жыл бұрын

@@sd410MM I just had the same exact thing happen on my 1974 9.9 Johnson. Woodruff key is fine but flywheel hit Left magneto ear and bent some of the stacked plates down. I thought mine had locked up too.

@user-rn7ix3tn5o Жыл бұрын

Hey Mike what does it mean if I measure 0 ohms on my coil test you said 1-3 ohms

@michaeljsimon Жыл бұрын

Coil is shorted.

@user-rn7ix3tn5o Жыл бұрын

@@michaeljsimon thanks so I need new coils there is 2 on my 1972 4 hp Johnson they both read 0 ohms

@user-rn7ix3tn5o Жыл бұрын

There is cracking in the varnish can I recoat them?

@user-rn7ix3tn5o Жыл бұрын

I do get the right reading from the coil to the spark plug wire

@michaeljsimon Жыл бұрын

@@user-rn7ix3tn5o I would replace them www.ebay.com/itm/364162346337?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=sn3ajpvKTka&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=sn3ajpvKTka&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

@Samafolife 3 жыл бұрын

hi there, is there a way to test the condensers with a multimeter? I am getting spark on both cylinders, however the top sparkplug is fouling a lot and i am wondering if it's due to a weak spark. I have a15hp sears gamefisher/force/chrysler. Thanks for your help

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

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@MinnVet 3 жыл бұрын

I'm looking to buy a 1972 Alumacraft with a "72" 6HP Johnson. It hasn't been started for 6 years. Any advice on what I should check before starting?

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

Impeller

@bhrtbanjaluka5935 Жыл бұрын

PLEASE HELP, I INSTALLED A NEW PUMP BUT THE FUEL DOESN'T GO.. I INSTALLED A NEW GASKET... REPAIRED THE CARBURETOR. IT WORKS FOR 3 SECONDS.. IT STOPS,,,,..HELP,,,THANK YOU

@michaeljsimon Жыл бұрын

Just purchase one of these and give me a call 337-278-5429. Thx www.ebay.com/itm/363676950717?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=sn3ajpvKTka&sssrc=2051273&ssuid=sn3ajpvKTka&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

@bhrtbanjaluka5935 Жыл бұрын

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@keitherickson7666 3 жыл бұрын

When I go from coil connector to sparkplug I'm getting 6.08ohms , when I go from coil to coil connector I get 0 ohms. Why is that? I have pictures but don't know where to send them.

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

Sure it’s not 6.08 k ohms. That would be 6,000 ohms which is good. Should be between 3k and 10k

@astroboy5137 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 1971 Evenrude 2hp. Without a coil positioning ring, how can I set my coil.

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

Use a flat edge to ensure both surfaces are aligned

@astroboy5137 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaeljsimon Thank you!

@ryanclark1841 2 жыл бұрын

T Mike where is a good source to get parts? Need a couple parts for a 1991 johnson 15hp but don't want to pay retail

@michaeljsimon 2 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9pjaLGFqc_bqas.html

@MisoJuice 3 жыл бұрын

Why did you switch from positive on one spark plug boot to a negative on the bottom spark plug boot??

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

When testing for continuity it does not matter which leads go where

@miyak6971 2 жыл бұрын

where did you get the spacer and timing tool from?

@clarencethomas5311 3 жыл бұрын

How important is the position of the coils, didnt really want to buy any more tools

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

Just use a straight edge screwdriver to line up edges.

@jameswork9300 2 жыл бұрын

Did you set the gap after filing the points

@michaeljsimon 2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@joeyginise6051 5 ай бұрын

If the coils are less than one ohm, is that bad?

@michaeljsimon 5 ай бұрын

Could be shorted - answer is yes.

@wilfor03 3 жыл бұрын

Will that Positioning coil #317001 work with a Johnson 9.5 hp #: 9R-73B? and thank you....T-Mike

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@wilfor03 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaeljsimon Thank you....just ordered a positioning coil tool...

@jonhutchens9770 Жыл бұрын

I went to the parts store. The young person there didn't know what points are.

@michaeljsimon Жыл бұрын

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@comptoncharles6401 3 жыл бұрын

I am getting .75 when checking primary coils, is that an acceptable reading?

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

Yes. I would think so - to verify you would need manufacturers specs on that particular coil.

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@comptoncharles6401 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaeljsimon thanks for the fast response. So my coils are good but I have no spark on the top cylinder Andy ideas or tips? Or should I just replace coils, points, condensers and wires?

@comptoncharles6401 3 жыл бұрын

Also it’s an evinrude sport win 9.5

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

@@comptoncharles6401 you can always swap parts with working cylinder.

@FishingDIYMacGyverWithMe 2 жыл бұрын

One more thing- the manual says condenser for 25 ho should be 25-29 mfd I think it is a mistake. My condenser measures 180nf that is more realistic

@Chrisbuildsstuff247 2 жыл бұрын

Can the coils being miss aligned cause no spark how do I place them without one of thoses guide rings

@michaeljsimon 2 жыл бұрын

Use a screwdriver edge to line up.

@Chrisbuildsstuff247 2 жыл бұрын

@@michaeljsimon on that little step of metal should the coil be flush?

@michaeljsimon 2 жыл бұрын

@@Chrisbuildsstuff247 yes

@chriswalker9350 3 жыл бұрын

And how do I take the friggin flywheel off?

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/adiFfbhkvdWudKc.html

@howardjohnson5354 2 жыл бұрын

I use a 5lb lead hammer and big screw driver.

@kenbarry101 2 жыл бұрын

Where are you located

@rooreeves Жыл бұрын

Breaux Bridge Louisiana

@outlawflyer7868 3 жыл бұрын

you got any wizard motors?

@michaeljsimon 3 жыл бұрын

@user-mc9ny2iz7k 4 ай бұрын

Я ставлю электронику и никаких проблем больше

@propabilityfpv303 7 ай бұрын

3 thousand ohms haha

@Ayerlooms Жыл бұрын

317001