Can I use the jeweling pad on an orbital/DA sander or does it have to be on a rotary tool?

You bet!

Our pleasure!

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Wow, thanks

Nice

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Agreed.

awesome, grab the Rotary Jeweling Pad if you haven't already for that final gloss!

@@diydetailofficial I do want it. I like the idea of your waffle pads and not having to tape off plastic, but my distributor doesn't have them yet as they only have a limited range of your products at the moment so I will have to wait for now

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Everyone has different needs and Budgets

@@diydetailofficial How true!

Both good choices.

I just went through this dilema as a new weekend warrior. I actually bought both G9 and Maxshine M8S V2 in order to feel them in hand. The G9 feels amazing for a started polisher. The M8S v2 is a very close 2nd to me.

@@chrisginoc took a paint correction class and gave the maxshine a try. I’m sure some of it was because it was my 1st time but felt I didn’t have complete control of the machine. When I asked the instructor about which one to go with he said as a weekend warrior to go with the G9, if I was doing multiple cars a day 15mm. No regrets with the G9.

10-12000 OPM

To each his own.

The gold pad will be the best choice.

On most paints, yes, if you have a very hard paint a small intermediary step may be required.

August

cut with a wool pad (bit.ly/GoldStandardWoolPad) on a 21mm DA, then finish with the rotary and a foam pad on speed 1...we love our new Rotary Jeweling Pad: bit.ly/RotaryJewelingPad

Excellent

A 15mm machine

The palm sander

@@diydetailofficial Awesome. Thanks so much for always being so helpful even to those of us who can't be professional detailers ❤️

There’s no difference between a hobbyist and professional Detailer in my eyes.

@@diydetailofficial That's why I follow you; you respect everyone. Thanks again.

Our rotary that hits the market in late March will be extremely quiet

@@diydetailofficial Oh buddy. Can’t wait.

Great advice, thanks for listening to the podcast and sharing your thoughts!

I recently bought the Hercules Brushless cordless 20v 7 inch rotary polisher with seperate Hercules 5ah extreme battery and rapid charger. $222.86 out the door. Before I even used it I opened up the gear box and there was 2 small pea sized hard wax grease only by the drive gear but not on it...Cleaned it all out and repacked the whole gear box with Lucas Oil Red and Tacky grease...It run's smooth and quiet and on the lowest setting 800rpm you can barely hear it running...I can wax or polish a whole SUV and the battery is only half used...Doing a one step correction it will use the whole battery but it gets the job done. This is a great polisher with plenty of speed and torque...You can also use 6 or 6.5 inch pads as the hook and loop velcro is only 6 inches wide. Tool only is $79.99...

@petedetraglia4776 thank you

Clean your car, and In 2 Detailing carry the DIY Detail line in the UK.

They range from 20-30,000 OPM.

either is great

Yes

Want to learn the rotary but no one here to teach me, only you DIY guys :) Cheers BTW!

You can learn the rotary yourself

@@diydetailofficial I would feel safer with a random panel from the junkyard :) but thank you for giving me confidence

Both will work, the wool pad would take less time, but more passes with the foam pad will accomplish the task as well.

@@diydetailofficial thanks, I'll give that a try

Thank you, 21mm DA for cutting. Rotary for finishing. If it’s only one you want, then get a 15mm.

@diydetailofficial ty for your response... I saw Ivan with the UDOS 51....with Pan The Organizer... Nice machine $700.00...quality machine. But also the G9 has excellent reviews all around with super customer service... Any thoughts on the G9 or a Makita? Ty so much.

If you have the time, yes, plus it’s fun.

Look for one with a free spinning backing plate.

Yes, that’s great.

It’s very hard to provide advice outside of our line up. I would say rotary with our yellow waffle pad or red jeweling pad and gold standard polish is my advice!! I would do a test spot with each and choose the combo that gives you the results you’re looking for

@@diydetailofficial ok thx for the quick reply. I'm really liking the rotary so I'll give that a shot.

Thanks!

We like 6 inch backing plate from Lake Country

Full speed

No, turns way too fast.

That's a dual action polisher, correct? If so, just use it on the middle speed setting. We recommend polishing with a rotary on the lowest speed setting (to finish down or polish after the compounding stage)

@@diydetailofficial Yes, it's a dual action random orbital. It goes up to 5600 RPM, so somewhere in the 2-3 would be best?

If anything their explanation that Nick couldn't get a defect out with a 3", while Yvan could get it out by tilting a 6" on it's edge on a 21mm machines kinda proves my point. Because ultimately the contact patch was much smalller by tilting the machine on it's edge, which achieved a faster/stronger cut by applying all of the power of the machine to a smaller contact patch than even the 3" pad down on it's face at full contact.

Also the 75e has a 400W motor, and fhe LHR21 has 500W motor. Meanwhile the contact patch of a 3" at full contact is larger than the contact patch of a 6" pad on it's edge. While the rotational speed of the outside edge of a 6" is much higher speed as well, along with its larger 21mm orbit. All that combined, is to say that with same pressure you had much more power going to a smaller contact patch, which is why the cut was stronger/faster.

We never use pressure when polishing, it creates heat, which slows the cut and causes marring.

​@@diydetailofficialYou might not, some people do. Some situations might call for a little pressure. However regardless of whether you apply perceived physical pressure yourself. Just the weight of the machine applies a certain amount of pressure on horizontal surfaces. However you can't tell me you don't apply "pressure" on vertical surfaces...how else does the machine stay on the panel? Point being regardless of how much pressure is applied, if that pressure is equivalent on a 5" or a 6", on the same machine (doesn't even have to be the same machine as long as the force applied is the same), the resulting force is greater per inch on a smaller surface than on a larger surface. It's just simple math: A 5" pad has a surface area of 19.63" A 6" pad has a surface area of 28.27" Now let's say you apply 20 ft-lbs of force to the pads. A 5" pad will exert 1.0188 psi (pounds per square inch). A 6" pad will exert 0.7075 psi (pounds per square inch). Now to be fair, a 6" pad has 44% more surface area than a 5" pad. However the 5" pad exerts 44% more pressure at the same applied force. Now the effect of surface area vs pressure on the actual material gets a little more complicated because of the variance in paint/clear type, type of polish, amount of polish, temperature, rotational force and speed, and work time. Which might warrant further investigation...however my point still stands, that a smaller pad has higher resulting pressure than a larger pad.

​@@diydetailofficialOne last thing. Temperature. Most of the time even with the most aggressive pads on a 2 foot section, using two passes, at a travel speed of about an inch a second, you'll maybe get the paint immediately under the pad to about 140-150 F. Most pads will run a bit cooler, in the 110-120 F range, with wool as far down as 90 F. Those temps are well within the safety limits of modern car paints. Most modern paints will experience some instant failure above 300 F. Which is much higher than your average working temps when polishing/cutting. I guess if you don't know what you're doing, you could cause enough heat for some damage, though it probably won't be in the form of total system failure (ie. cracking, peeling, etc.).

Yes

That’s correct

​@@diydetailofficialThank-you, much appreciated.

Thank you for taking the time to comment.

@@diydetailofficial when it comes to machines im always going to do so. Used dozens and dozens of them and some that are not that well known in our industry

Unfortunately not that I’ve found

@@diydetailofficial hey! Look at the Makita cordless polisher. It flips between DA and forced rotation. I wonder if it would spin out on DA Mode then flip it to back to forced rotation

Good idea

@@diydetailofficial so it only spins 5.5mm in DA Mode, think that's too slow?

​@@patricktuggles4815That should work. The reason the forced rotation polishers don't work with the pad washer is not because the throw is too small, it's because the rotation speed is too slow (usually less than 1000rpm). If the polisher has a setting for free spinning da mode, the rotation speed will be much faster (not on the paint of course, because of "stalling") and will dry the pad just fine.

Wool pad for a bit more cut, yellow for shine and very little cut and red would be more for applying a product like ceramic gloss on a palm sander

@@diydetailofficial thank you

No date yet, still in R&D

Rotary polishers have interchangeable baseplates so it can work with 1-7 inch backing plates. We include a 5 and 6 inch.

Https://diydetail.com/pages/distributors

There are a few, but they are limited.

That works

Yes, remove the belt

Thank you so much! Just waiting for Black Friday to get some products to start my journey into detailing!

The wait is soon over

@@diydetailofficialso if I plan to polish my new car with the orbital I’ll be fine. If I try and do my parents car, theirs will def need correction, maybe two step. Can the orbital do something like that or will I need to actually get a DA? Obviously test but would the purple pad on the orbital work then move to yellow pad?

With the wool pad you should be able to do some correction.

Thanks Matthew

Cutting is removing part of the clear coat, meaning cutting some of the paint off.

Thanks!

It’s popular, but expensive for what it is.

Cool!

Which one you got from harbor freight?

Hey can I ask where you found that coupon?

@@phenixwars1 if you google "harbor freight palm sander" it will be one of the first ones, Bauer for $19.99. if you don't see it tell me, maybe I can send it to you somehow

How the harbor freight palm sander work?

thanks for sharing!

No

Please explain to folks what your reasoning is:)

@@diydetailofficial Maxshine M8S V2 (technically heard it's the same internals as Griot G9 and Adam's) at $129 is a steal with less vibration than Bauer or sub $100 models. Pros: Price, Quality Build, excellent customer service, half clicks on speed dial, comes with 5" backing plate installed Cons: Polisher bottom not as ergonomic as the G9, trigger is on top and I prefer on bottom, speed dial is at bottom near cord and for beginners that's negative in the learning curve. Griot's G9: Pros: Feel in hand is excellent with ergonomics, less vibration than a Bauer or cheap polisher, customer service is 2nd to none, trigger at bottom and speed dial are better positioned for beginner or advanced. You can grow into the G9 and still use it once you're a pro, but you won't grow out of it as quickly as a Bauer or cheapo polisher. Cons: Price new is $169 (used you can find it under $120 if you get lucky), Griot rarely has sales on it, need to buy 5" backing plate because it comes with 6"

see you tomorrow Humberto!

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@1 st from Puerto Rico , saludos , sabes algún truco para poder traducir los vídeos , porque hace como 3 días que no puedo hacerlo....

@@mariosantiago8931 traducir el video? Yo nunca he hecho eso

@@1stfrompuertorico568 Que mal por mi, solo entiendo algunas cosas otras no , y por eso utilizo el traductor de KZfaq pero por alguna razón no funciona, pero con vídeos más atrasados sí funciona...😅😪

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that's what you use?

I want a makita but they are more expensive than Adam's

Makita is the current leader in quality power tools

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