What's the "5-5-5" method? Breaking down the 5-second

What's the "5-5-5" method? Breaking down the 5-second | Podcast #59

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10 ай бұрын

We continue to get questions -- and critiques -- about the 5-5-5 Method, a term Yvan coined to safely and quickly remove the appearance of most scratches.
Here's the original video featuring the 5-5-5 method: • Using the "5-5-5" meth...
5-5-5 is simple when you're trying to eliminate car scratches: Speed 5 on the machine, 5 pounds of pressure, and polish for 5 seconds. But there are important details here. You want to use the Gold Standard Wool Cutting Pad: bit.ly/GoldStandardWoolPad
And use this polish (Gold Standard Polish): bit.ly/GoldStandardPolish
In this podcast, Nick and Yvan discuss the ins and outs of the system -- yes, it's a proper system -- to get best results with the 5-5-5 method!
DIY Detail Podcast: • Costly detailing mista...
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@ethanblan435 10 ай бұрын

There are two types of detailer in this world: one that hates on the 5-5-5 method, and one that’s tried it

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Very true

@havingtoomuchfun4806 10 ай бұрын

Lol, so true, I would go as far as saying Those who think Yvan’s techniques are wrong, and those who have high profits because of him.

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Thank you

@mcflotty Ай бұрын

Thank you guys! This answered the question from the video I just watched that you jposted a few hours ago. Much appreciated. I work in sales, and am on the road all the time. Though this and the video I was just speaking of I was able to watch, I am putting on playlists and listening for most of the day while in the car. Of course I have watched many but even if I can't watch, because I have done this stuff sinse Jesus was a rookie, I can typically follow and understand what you're telling us. In the rare case I don't understand or follow, I save it and watch it again later. You guys are awesome. I'm looking forward to using the whole line once what I have is depleted. I did purchase several things that needed replacement and some things in fairness I just wanted to try. Will stay supportive as much as I can. Lol, I want the orbital and the not so orbital, but what I have in my arsinal isn't broke and gets it done without problem. I'm not a Harbor Freight guy. I always go top shelf. Though I haven't used all of the products, from anything I can research and find, I believe you are all that and more. Thank you again.

@diydetailofficial Ай бұрын

Wow, Thank you.

@havingtoomuchfun4806 10 ай бұрын

Great content! Yvan will one day be recognized as detailings most innovative and influential people. Not only does he know more than most, but he shares this knowledge willingly, even though it sets him up for criticism by short sited people. There’s very few people that can track down why they use a Rinseless wash, and that the root of that doesn’t start with Yvan.

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@simplysimplemobiledetailin529 10 ай бұрын

💯 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

@jefe2816 10 ай бұрын

I can't say enough good things about this info and chat you guys had. Chasing absolute perfection is really fun to watch on KZfaq and impressive...but for us home enthusiasts, I personally just want my cars to look better, be prepped for a coating, and last as long as possible. Thanks for all of the education and explaining things in such an easy to understand and friendly manor. Keep up the great work!

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@knottssonasty3603 10 ай бұрын

Man you two are awesome! Since I found your channel I’ve been hooked. Binge watching all the episodes I’ve missed. I love detailing cars and I do it as a side business. Your vids are super informative and str8 to the point and I love that. I just got your waffle pad and your spray polish combo. Can’t wait to use w my new da polisher. Nice job gentlemen!

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Thank you, one thing DIY Detail Gold Standard Polish isn’t a wax, it’s an abrasive polish. You will need to add protection once you’re finished.

@knottssonasty3603 10 ай бұрын

@@diydetailofficial fixed it lol. My bad. Thank you for the pro tip. Really appreciate it!

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Thank you

@steveclark2426 10 ай бұрын

Just received the gold standard system today and the 5 yr coating . Will be working on a friends car tomorrow and it will be used. Looking forward. I’m very impressed with all the other DIY products so far

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Thank you

@shawntedrow9251 10 ай бұрын

I feel like I've tried to say this so many times to no avail. Thank you clarifying the idea of managing expectations and not trying to eliminate all defects every time and that even if you could....it's just not good if its a daily driver. I've had success with my customers so far and will continue! thanks for the info!

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

So true! Glad that’s working for you 😀

@neilwalker5041 10 ай бұрын

This method has never has never not worked for me. I do not have a 21 mm throw polisher so I use a three inch Rupes with a 12mm throw. Perfect for small spot corrections. Thank you for the video!

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing Neil!

@pappajohn8912 10 ай бұрын

Thanks again for sharing your years of experience!

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

You’re welcome! Thanks for supporting the channel 💪

@173customdetailing9 10 ай бұрын

Always great advice yvan, me at 173 always ask what the customer wants and most times it's just a clean and shiny vehicle with a few scratches removed if possible and that I hope I give them, and I still use the honed blade to remove some, great work guys long live the rotary 😊

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Right on!

@robpeluso2852 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video! This method works great!

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

@GlacierDetail 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video!

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

@neilhibbert5201 10 ай бұрын

Hi nick and ivan thanks for demo ing the uses on the golf standard polish and I used my 15 mm 5 inch polisher and also using my 12mm 3 inch they worked better than and think I have tried in to polisher andused a lot of them for a weekend man in uk.also very very quick to use but then clean to pad after every set of polish. This is a 6star products. 😊

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Thank you

@GoofylookinHippy 10 ай бұрын

Leaving a like because I know this will be good!

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Lots to talk about!!

@thesamsquatch5224 10 ай бұрын

I don't polish often but working on changing that. First thing my grandpa said is listen to Yvan. I showed him the 5-5-5 it works well. Its very difficult but necessary if you're running a business then listen to what your customer actually wants or you won't be in business very long

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Thank you

@Franko.Details 10 ай бұрын

yet to try this method because i haven’t bought your purple pad but have no doubt in the world it works. for my favorite way of polishing i developed the now 2 bucket method. 1 bucket with 3 gal of diy rinseless with all the pads i going to be using for the process. 2nd bucket with 3 gals of water sometimes with rinseless and a grit guard for cleaning the pads. grab a clean pad spin dry, use damp pad to polish a panel then when the pad is spent press the pad against the grit guard in the 2nd bucket to clean the pad, then put cleaned pad in the clean bucket grab a new pad and keep going. yes you have to dry your arm and hand each time but works great. and have the buckets on wheels for more convenience. hope that helps anyone who hasn’t got a pad washer or doesn’t want to buy one. 🐿️💨

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Thank you, good plan.

@johnparkerzabala 10 ай бұрын

Gentlemen very much obliged. This sunday I will try using my one and only flex xce cordless forced rotation hoping it will turn out as expected. Salutes 🫡

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Enjoy

@denthevetteman78 10 ай бұрын

A couple of week ago my neighbor and i took the train to Québec from New-Brunswick to take delivery of his black 2020 Acura MDX. It only had 30k kms on it. Even tho we asked not to polish or do anything to it, they send it to a detailing shop prior to our arrival. It look nice and shiny but once arrive at home to prepared it for a ceramic coating I've noticed that it had a bad rubbing scratch on one corner of the front bumper something that they try to hide with some filler wax. As I didn't know what kind of correction they tried, I just went over with the 5,5,5 method. It took over 75 % of the scratch. Once the ceramic coating applied, it's almost invisible for the general public and my friend is happy.

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Denis.

@jont5320 8 ай бұрын

I just wanted to say thank you! I'm getting ready to order a big shipment, do you have stickers available yet?

@diydetailofficial 8 ай бұрын

Not yet!

@fozzir 3 ай бұрын

Good video! I am looking at getting a DA. You mention a 21 stroke machine. How do I know it is 21 stroke? I don't see that in the specs. Do you recommend any machines, also, I am a DIY so I don't want to spend $500. Thanks!

@diydetailofficial 3 ай бұрын

We have our 25mm dual action machines coming out March 15, worth the wait 😊

@ItsMeYourRealDad 10 ай бұрын

I only have Milwaukee rotary, does the 5-5-5 method work with rotary? And does it work with any pad? Can I use a finishing pad with extra pressure applied to achieve something I would normally use a heavier-cut pad for?

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

The 5-5-5 method is meant for a dual action machine, preferably a 21mm DA actually. The method really is a system designed around our wool pad and Gold Standard Polish

@nolefan05 10 ай бұрын

gf just got me a LC pad washer. what dilution of rinseless shoukd I use for it? just got my yellow waffle, wool pad. time to DIVE IN I SUPPOSE! also does the solution last for a certain period of time in pad washer, or do I have to mix up a “new” batch each time? I’ve just got my car (2015 black nissan altima) & her 2020 honda accord. should I start with the waffle pad for less cut, or the wool for more. guess I can use speed 3, 3 passes procedure with wool & gloss it up with the waffle. got to get me some ceramic coating next. one other thing can you suggest some good detail briushes for wheels, emblems. ❤️ the vids & keep up the GREAT WORK!

@jonfavale5146 10 ай бұрын

I put around 6” of water and 1 cap full (1oz) of rinseless.

@cormaro13 10 ай бұрын

That's too aggressive, that's a 2 step , start with the waffle pad and see how u like the results and if certain areas have deeper scratches or to get more out use the wool But make sure to clean , clay bar with iron decon and use panel prep before applying ceramic

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

you can use Snappy Clean pad cleaning powder or Rinseless Wash 256:1. It will last quite a long time in there, but use common sense if it's been a month maybe switch out the solution:) It's best to keep the pad washer clean after every use if you can, it doesn't take much time to take the pieces apart and rinse everything out. Try yellow waffle and see if you're satisfied with the shine and gloss. Obviously this won't remove all defects and scratches and that's okay:) that's not the goal. you're going for some defect removal but mostly shiny scratches. However, if it's not satisfactory you can try the wool. It's likely you'll get more defect removal, and you might want to stop right there but it might have hazed up the paint a bit and you find that a second step with yellow waffle adds more gloss. Have fun!

@chabaneouali1955 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for showing us this method. Speed 5 is the equivalent of what speed in rpm? 🙏🏻

@diydetailofficial 7 ай бұрын

On most tools it’s roughly 4000 orbits per minute. This is not to be done with a Rotary.

@chabaneouali1955 7 ай бұрын

DA, 4000 rpm , got it . Thank you 🙏🏻

@broncoupe 10 ай бұрын

What would you suggest if bonnet is like this all over scratches are definably in the clear using your purple pad gold standard it creates its own problem because a lot of the bonnet is great but remaining scratches are now more obvious

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

You can Polish again, but be very careful as every time you polish you diminish the clearcoat. Learning to live with the scratches may be the best option.

@broncoupe 10 ай бұрын

So can you use the wool pad on a rotary if so what speed and same question for forced drive thank you ref pad dampness do you rewet after each set or wait till you refresh polish

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

At a minimum a 15mm DA, forced rotation and a rotary are not ideal for this method. Yes you clean the pad and apply new polish after every use.

@shawnhann2858 10 ай бұрын

Can you use the DIY wool pad (with a da) with your gold standard polish on black trim to reduce scratches?

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

It would be a last resort, the wool pad May damage the trim.

@craigmiller8564 10 ай бұрын

There’s an old training vid where Yvan is teaching 5-5-5 and I thought he was using the rotary. Nick was running the camera I think. Until this podcast, I thought we were to use the rotary which I understood to be Yvans fave tool. Question is……how does this work with the rotary? Spent a ton on a flex rotary because Yvan is such a big fan of the rotary, but seems he may have acquiesced to the dark magic of the DA!! Do I need a 21mm DA now for the 5-5-5?

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

5-5-5 method isn't meant for rotary. Actually, Yvan always teaches cutting with a 21mm DA and finishing on speed 1 with the rotary. You can use a 15mm DA as well, but as Yvan explains in this video....he designed 5-5-5 as a system that works best with the products he outlines in the video. That includes keeping the wool pad slightly damp, but lots of folks try and use this method with 15mm DAs as well. Don't fret about the rotary! It's a great machine (that FLEX) and it's great for finishing for maximum gloss after you compound with wool on a DA

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Craig, in the video with Nick it was a 21mm machine. I am a fan of the rotary for finishing, but I always use a DA to cut, it’s more efficient. That said this technique is reserved for the DA. For the rotary, use the wool pad on speed 1, no pressure.

@craigmiller8564 10 ай бұрын

Thanks gents!

@willoverkill8461 10 ай бұрын

I hope Yvan also uses a buffer to clean leather seats in the video, just to get the haters extra pissed off lol

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Lol

@jeffn3262 10 ай бұрын

If I get the 21mm DA, can I finish with it? Wool pad then foam pad after the entire vehicle? Or do I need a 15 mm on smaller panels?

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

I prefer to finish with a 15mm but you can finish with a 21 for sure

@jeffn3262 10 ай бұрын

@@diydetailofficial thank you!

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

You’re very welcome!

@davidboyce6427 10 ай бұрын

Neil Young of Crosby Stills and Nash. Dang Keep On Rocking in The Free World👀👌

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Yes! Thanks David lol you made it to the end

@davidboyce6427 10 ай бұрын

@@diydetailofficial you bet. I’m pretty sure I’m older than Yvan. I’m 63

@SeaFoamSparkles 10 ай бұрын

Hey, so does DIY rinse-less wash help with water spotting? Like if I rinse the car with hard water before I spray on the rinse-less wash?

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Yes it will, but you still need to be careful.

@SeaFoamSparkles 10 ай бұрын

@@diydetailofficial thank you good sir. Usually when you reply with something like “lol” I’m thinking this is probably Nick talking lol. I found u from the hawk pro days and you transitioning to DIY introduced me to Yvan the OG

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Thank you. Yes this is Yvan.

@renuing 10 ай бұрын

If I only want to get one machine, will the rotary provide decent cutting with the wool pad when needed and then finishing with the yellow or jeweling pad (not referring to the 5-5-5 level of scratches, just love marks)? I like the smoothness, quietness, and finishing ability of the rotary but want to ensure it can provide decent cut when needed without taking forever. Or is the 15mm DA the best all around machine? Thanks!

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

it's a great question, did you happen to watch this video? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jJ1kaNiZy5_YqYE.html. Not trying to get out of the question, but choosing just one polisher is a complicated subject...hence the podcast episode about this. This is Nick btw. I would probably get the 15mm, but I'll let Yvan chime in if he would like to disagree. It's definitely a close one but a DA can be very easy and versatile and they are popular for a reason....I'm always going to chose both, so I can chose depending on the situation:)

@renuing 10 ай бұрын

@@diydetailofficial Thanks Nick, I do remember watching that video and went back and watched it again right now :) The 15 DA does seem to be a great all arounder but then Yvan mentioned the first polisher he gave to all his new employees was a rotary. I could certainly get the DA and rotary but Yvan was also mentioning the pad choice might be more important. That's why I was hoping a rotary would work good enough with the wool pad when cutting is needed even if it would take a couple more passes. The rotary just seems so much nicer to use. I hope Yvan shares a few thoughts too, I know it's a complicated and tough question. Thanks as always, love your content and the education portion you are both leaning into so much!

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

you got it!@@renuing without having used a rotary (I'm guessing that's where you're at) it's just hard to say for me, I would prefer you know the feel of both machines and could get some time with them before pulling the trigger. It also depends on if this is for personal or professional use. Lots of people cut with a rotary to this day, so it's obviously possible to get those results, but we don't teach that method

@renuing 10 ай бұрын

@@diydetailofficial That definitely makes sense and your assumptions are correct. I haven't used either type of polisher yet and it would be for personal use only. I've done quite a bit of woodworking though so definitely understand the dual action feel via hundreds of hours using random orbital sanders. Funny enough I don't currently have one at home since that's all been professional use :) They can be kind of jumpy at times and, well, random.

@renuing 10 ай бұрын

@@diydetailofficial really appreciate the discussion.

@hothefa_oby8973 10 ай бұрын

No matter what i do i always use way much polish 😅 Can u tell us how we can use the polish in spry bottles do we add bet of water or something else to diulot with the polish because i don't have access or any kind of reach to the gold standard it will be more efficient and economical for me if u just gave me a tip to help me with that

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

A polish must be designed as a Sprayable. Where are you located, we might have a distributor near you

@hothefa_oby8973 10 ай бұрын

Am from Iraq I live in the eastern side of it in small village so far from u guys 😅

@broc1805 10 ай бұрын

But I need the wool pad back in stock!!!!😢😊

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

Soon

@john_dee1431 5 ай бұрын

This made me laugh. Yes, he probably went right back into the woods with that truck. If any consolation, he'll scratch a slightly different area for the next round of detailing.

@diydetailofficial 5 ай бұрын

Yes he did

@darrenprintz2966 10 ай бұрын

What backing plate and size do you use

@diydetailofficial 10 ай бұрын

on a 21 mm dual action machine it usually comes with a stock plate, 6 inches, so you would use our Wool Pad 6.5 inch size. And good news for you...we just got them back in stock and we're having a 15% of Labor Day Sale: diydetail.com/collections/buffing-paint-correction/products/gold-standard-wool-pad?variant=42375466156190

@darrenprintz2966 10 ай бұрын

@@diydetailofficial rotary

@diydetailofficial 9 ай бұрын

6 inch is my preferred size.