How To Choose Mini Monitor Speakers For Beginners
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5 жыл бұрынTBR Rating For Speakers In This Video,
Bowers & Wilkins 607 Speakers
Price: $600 (Jun, 2019)
Overall Rating: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️ ½
One Of The Best sounding Mini Monitor Speaker Money Can Buy.
Pros: Sound Accuracy, Great Midrange, Good Bass Performance.
Cons: Can Get Bright at High Decibel.
Build Quality: ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️ ⭐️½
Highs:⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️
Midrange: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️⭐️
Bass: ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️⭐️
Sound Stage:⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
Price: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️½
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PSB Alpha P5 Speaker: amzn.to/2T7SCCm
Price: $349.00 (March, 2019)
Overall Rating: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ¾
Great Value, Good Balance Sound, Highly Recommended!
Pros: Everything Is Just Right for Price and Size.
Cons: None At This Price.
Build Quality: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️
Highs:⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️½
Midrange: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ½
Bass: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️½
Sound Stage:⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️
Price: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️
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KEF LS50 Black Edition Speakers
Price: $1299.00 Pair. (Jun, 2019)
Overall Rating ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
Hi-End Sound Quality without High Price.
Pros:High Quality Sound,Bass Performance,Best Midrange Under $5k.
Cons: None At This Price.
Highs:⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️
Mid-Range: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️
Bass: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
Sound Stage:⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
Price: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️
Music Den Size: (13x11x9ft)
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@tawaunwilliams7002 5 жыл бұрын
Under $1000 monitors are crazy rediculously good these days...this is the Golden era of budget bookshelves....R&D and trickle down technology is off the charts...
@stevenholt5484 5 жыл бұрын
Tharbamar, you knocked it out of the park! Excellent advice, plain and simple. One of my favorite speakers is the Sony SCSS5, and I'm willing to bet that in a blind test, it would hold it's own with the three excellent speakers in your video. For the price, they are amazing. Anyway, keep up the good work!
@JG-gg9wk 5 жыл бұрын
It's all personal taste. Those with limited budget are going to love this video. By the way I agree in your statement know the sound signiture that floats your boat. Most important, then comes budget. How much your comfortable spending. Good job.
@tawaunwilliams7002 5 жыл бұрын
I would really like to see you review the Kef Q150....
@net_news 5 жыл бұрын
great advice, agree 100%
@stevenoconnor5693 5 жыл бұрын
Good video. The challenge when auditioning for most is a store room. Because it’s not their room depending on the person’s situation it may not produce what is heard during store room audition
@MrSouzy 3 жыл бұрын
I have to agree. I actually tried the LS50 with a 10 watt class A amp but which had a considerable power supply. Clearly it didnt go very loud but it was loud enough for normal listening. Normally I just use a NAD 326BEE which is a really cheap amp but also has a great power supply built in. My oldest son commented when we were listening that the saxophone seemed to be in the room. Great sound for the money.
@buttonman1831 5 жыл бұрын
I have Elac debut B6 2.0 and LS50. If you aren't totally happy with the Elacs, the LS50 will likely satisfy you. I liked the Elac but was never completely happy with them. The LS50 don't blow the Elacs away, they add just enough. I actually love them and they are the lowest cost component of my system. If you shop around, you can find these at a low price brand new. I paid 899 Cdn in May/2019 which is an awesome deal.
@vdan2879 5 жыл бұрын
Good choice! I picked them too cos you picked them
@udinbata 2 жыл бұрын
Good advice...Subscribed!
@smartshubhro 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent advice... and some great knowledge sharing 👍. No wonder the Bose systems don't sound the way they are priced...!!!
@jeffreyepiscopo 5 жыл бұрын
You should try out the Quad S-2. I think you would love them.
@stevenoconnor5693 5 жыл бұрын
A lot comes down to perception of how a person perceives Sound. Second is use case last is placement And equipment pairing.
@kirkcunningham6146 5 жыл бұрын
I think 2 grand is the limit to what you are going to hear as far as sound quality for most people. Anything above that price range is subjective because of your room. The next level would be between 2-5 grand. Then your looking at quality of parts, crossovers, box design, what the box is made out of and equipment.
@ld4974 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Bowers and Wilkins 606. He's right, they are the ticket when you consider price vs performance. I auditioned the following speakers before arriving at the 606's: Wharfdale Diamond 11 Whardale Diamond 225 Martion Logan Motion 15 (Great speakers. Actually kept these thinking I was done, but later decided the 5.25" midrange could not fill the room at higher volumes) Klipsch RP600M Bowers and Wilkins 706 S2 (I was not super impressed with these given the $2k price tag. They were an open box item so I may have had a dud pair). All were powered by a Cambridge Audio CXA80.
@Wooster77 5 жыл бұрын
With the KEF's Uni-Q driver, the center tweeter area doesn't move and therefore doesn't contribute to bass response. Do you find that the other two speakers, which have dedicated woofers, have better bass (although the imaging may not be quite as good as the KEF's)?
@shaolin95 2 жыл бұрын
I tested the p5 and the bw with a Macintosh amp and to each it's own, but I rather listen to the P5
@gordthor5351 2 жыл бұрын
I do have the same taste as you and I just happen to have the exact same black anniversary edition LS50s.
@jkingdtorres8928 3 жыл бұрын
Sir what minimum specs for amplifiers to run the 607s? Or any recommended amps for this?
@khoi83 4 жыл бұрын
the Psb looks a lot like the MIssion LX2!
@hushpuppykl 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve never enjoyed the LS50. Tried it with different amps but never did enjoy them that much. To each his own I guess. I’m the odd one out 😂🤣
@D.E.E.P.Y. 5 жыл бұрын
I also think that new KEF speakers do require good amp to appreciate their true glory. Better amp better sound with them.
@hushpuppykl 5 жыл бұрын
D V ... for the LS50 I tried them out with good amps such as the Audio Analogue Puccini Anniversary and even PrimaLuna ... was not to my liking. I’m the odd ball I guess. But I can understand why they got good mass appeal, esp for its price.
@sirluke7 5 жыл бұрын
@@hushpuppykl I don't see you being the odd ball. There is a huge difference in hearing of all people... in my teen years I drove a car with no A/C.... wind from the highway actually reduced my high frequency of my left ear dramatically. I don't notice it so much ... but when I go for a hearing test.. the older I get the more different my hearing changes within different frequency bands... Even my perception of sound location has changed! Also... the actual ear shape itself has an affect on hearing... and everyone's ear shapes are different. It comes down to what YOU PERCEIVE is good.... screw the reviews, the price, even your friends... get what makes you happy... Reminds me of the guys who use to brag how much they could drink before getting drunk... (that would be me!), When a best friend could drink 3 beers and could not nearly walk... He had the best bragging rights ... a couple of dollars... he was happy... Me... not so much.. :-(
@hushpuppykl 5 жыл бұрын
sirluke7 ... I’m still lucky. At 50 I can still hear up to just under 15 KHz. I’m like your buddy, 3-4 beers and I’m out. Cheap date huh? 😂🤣
@mikecees2230 5 жыл бұрын
@@hushpuppykl That makes two of us although I never tried them at home.
@RainbowCharade 4 жыл бұрын
May I ask are AV receivers generally Class D? (thinking Marantz NR1200 or Denon DRA800H)...and is the generated volume from a Class D amp less than the equivalent wattage Class A/B amp? Thanks!
@cenkbaskr5770 3 жыл бұрын
I am planning to get a pair of B&W 607 or 607 S2... Do you think they will sound their best or decent at least if I run them with my Denon AVR X1500H receiver... Or should I keep my old Polk S 20E ?..... I would appreciate your answer... Thanks...
@Booboooru 5 жыл бұрын
Ls50 are good
@rickmerritt128 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes you have to figure out what the speaker is doing and then you might find out that you really like them. But there are bad sounding speakers out there that are barely listenable. A good speaker from a good speaker company certainly will have something about it that is pleasing in sound. It maybe lacking a bit in some areas but still sound descent.
@Tharbamar Жыл бұрын
In modern day manufacturing capability and know how there is no terribly bad speaker in general. I’ve heard tons of speakers from $50 pair to $250k and all of them serves their purpose well, only and all it is comes down to personal taste and budget. As you may know already no such thing as perfect sounding speaker nor perfectly suited speaker for everyone tastes. To each of own.
@rickmerritt128 Жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar I would go as far to say in general no terribly bad speakers since speakers were first introduced. Also a placement of a set of speakers can mean all the difference in the world in getting the most out of them.
@nemanjaand 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I'm looking to buy HiFi for quite some time, I'm watching all the reviews from all major audiophile channels but until this point didn't hear a simpler yet better explanation!
@nemanjaand 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to ask a question. It's kinda opposite to what I've just watched, but since I live in Serbia there are not so many options here. So I was thinking about those speakers 1)Dali Rubicon 2 (about 1400€ for a pair), 2) Bowers&Wilkins 606(not sure about price here) 3)Focal Aria 906 ( about 1000€ for a pair) 4) KEF LS 50 (around 900€ for a pair) I'm listening to House, Techno, Rock, Blues...Don't like too bright sound, but like clarity and detail. Like precise bass and not a fan of the subwoofer (I've only heard those on "home theater system" and pretty much hate it. Thanks in advance! :)
@Tharbamar 3 жыл бұрын
I have no experience with Rubicon 2 yet, base on your description B&W 606 or KEF Q350 May be more suitable for you but 606 can get bright. You can also check out the Wharfedale Linton Heritage which may even suits your preferred sound quality, thanks
@nemanjaand 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar Thanks a lot. I think we just get Wharfedale in Serbia so I'll check them out!
@connexvideo 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, after hearing your comparison between PSB P5 and B&W 607, I liked the last ones better. In my country then the B&W cost like the PSB and so with just over 550 euros I preferred to buy the B&W 606. Wow! That's exactly what I was looking for, even when combined with a simple Onkyo 9010 they sound really good to me. Very good dynamic and balance sound, well defined and crystalline highs, excellent mid and very present bass but always controlled and never intrusive. Before I had Wharfedale 225, good speaker but I wasn't satisfied with high, mid and not so dynamic. The B&W 606 for me are absolutely another planet, they always sound very good with any musical genre I have tried (jazz, rock, electro, pop, classical, etc.) Also with movie they are awesome. 5 stars! Thank you Tharbamar for you reviews and thank you for letting me know these fantastic B&W models at an affordable price.
@Tharbamar 5 жыл бұрын
Great choice, 600 series cabinet quality is almost as good as 700 series. Yes they do sound great! Base on my experience they’re as good as or better than other speakers in $1k range with similar size, enjoy!
@drampadreg1386 5 жыл бұрын
Buddy, 30-35% is HUGE with monitors! ANd as you get more advanced you approach the point of diminishing returns, but for a pro it's worth it. That 2-3% improvement can cost over 100% more at that level and it's worth it if it gives you a slight advantage over your competition. Is this for home listining or for ecording? Monitors are not for listening at home unless you want to hear every imperfection in the music.
@randall96 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking truth. Lot of us go for best back for buck. I don't understand how someone can spend £1000s on bookshelves.
@amarnathkp7176 3 жыл бұрын
Which is best av receiver for bowers and wilkins 600 bookshelf series.. 606 s2 and 607 s2
@CriPPleR_HD 3 жыл бұрын
Man, these videos helped me so much. Settled on 2 pairs of Bowers & Wilkins 606 Anniversary Editions to do double duty for HT and Stereo. Currently using a Marantz 7013. What would be a good Amp match for the B&W? Or would the Marantz be enough?
@RichardNutman 3 жыл бұрын
The marantz 7013 is very capable for music also. I prefer my music running through Audyssey anyway. If you had the slimline receiver you could get a power-amp for the fronts, but I don't think you need it with the 7013, it should have more than enough power.
@nibongese 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, in your opinion, what’s the best matching amps for B&W 606/607? Can give a few recommendations?
@Tharbamar 5 жыл бұрын
I like Yamaha A-S series to pair with 607 speakers.
@kyawthura9026 5 жыл бұрын
What do you think about Yamaha NX-N 500 . Bro ! I like this Speaker come with amp .price is $ 800 . Can u make your opinions
@Tharbamar 5 жыл бұрын
It's a good small mini monitor to for home use, only thing I don't like about it was no SUB out. Powered mini monitor with no sub out is not good for anything other than desktop use for me, thanks
@jonathanmatthew5631 3 жыл бұрын
If my fronts are 805d3 and center is HTM2D3, would the 607 be good enough for my surrounds? The problem is the place i would put them in is quite tight and the depth size of the 707 is much deeper than the smaller 607 but the question is, can the 607 keep up with my other speakers? My room is only small at 4m x 4.5m x 2.4m height (18sqm or 1500cuft). Amp is marantz pre plus emotiva xpa6 for surrounds and atmos and rotel rmb1858 for LCR. Subs are dual PSA3611 (18").
@Tharbamar 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it will work if you adjust the loudness level of the surrounds.
@itsmekenlai 5 жыл бұрын
@Tharbama would you consider Yamaha Aventage 20x0 series receivers as average? Thinking more and more if the LS50 would be a good upgrade over the Elac UB5 I have now.
@Tharbamar 5 жыл бұрын
1080 and above is very good it's above average with very good power amp, left and right channels are physically and electrically isolated and you can Bi-Amp your speakers with them.
@Tharbamar 5 жыл бұрын
Ken if you like three way design look for R300 or R3, which will give you better bass performance.
@itsmekenlai 5 жыл бұрын
Tharbamar would the rest of the qualities of be as good as the LS50? I think the marketing somehow made it seem like LS50 is better than the R series.
@Tharbamar 5 жыл бұрын
Ken, personally I like the warmish mid range of LS50 compare to R300, R300 is more open, detail and natural sound signature.
@nirajktm 4 жыл бұрын
How do you match amplifier and speakers @Tharbamar? I have a Rotel amp (RA 971 MK II) and Q acoustics concept 20 speakers and thinking of getting the B&W 607s
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
I like amps with warmish sound quality (not too warm) which will pair well with many speakers but high current power supply is a must, thanks
@nirajktm 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar thanks
@christopherward5065 5 жыл бұрын
Monitors are designed for professional use. They will be on the end of professional amplifiers. They will have a tailored response and be able to reveal important details about recordings or microphone feeds. Small bookshelf speakers are tuned for giving a balanced effect in an attractive package that can work with most music. The speakers are then a matter of compatibility with the system and the choice of music. Once you get to PMC, Harbeth, and ATC there are fewer compromises and the speakers are tools. The speakers you showed are not really monitor grade.
@Tharbamar 5 жыл бұрын
No such a thing is Monitor grade, all speakers color one way or another.
@mikecees2230 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Tharbamar, First time posting but have been following for some time. I like your ''regular guy'' reviews and the fact that all you sound demos are mostly made with the same ancillaries and same material. Contrary to those who think KZfaq demos are irrelevant I find I can get some kind of idea when all variables are things are consistently equal. I need to get those LS50s in house for a demo, maybe I didn't give them a fair chance (preconceived opinions about Kef I suppose). Your diminishing returns opinion is interesting regarding speakers over $1500. In my experience it usually boils down to similar in most respects except for more/less refinement usually in the treble (where I'm most sensitive). Just for fun...what % of the B&W 705 S2 do you think the 607s are?
@Tharbamar 5 жыл бұрын
Personally I would love to own TAD ME1 but too expensive for two way mini monitor speaker, 607 is about 60% of 706 S2 which I had but no experience with 705 S2 yet, thanks
@user-el2zj3pw5r 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar percentage wise, 607 far from 606? If never going above 85db listening on volume
@AntonL122 4 жыл бұрын
I hope this finds whoever's reading this well, I am trying to get into the audiophile world and would like to get a mini system going. I only really listen to classical music ranging from vocal to orchestral. I would like to know if the Bowers and Wilkins 607 is good at that and what receiver would be the best to pair with it in that case. If its not that good, then what would be a good combo (speaker/receiver), I have a 1500 GBP budget.
@ibz925 4 жыл бұрын
I would suggest if you are starting out to jut get the ls50 wireless.. you don't have to get a separate amplifier for that
@DueM 5 жыл бұрын
I think at least 5 inch woofers with a soft dome tweeter is a good starting point. I use q acoustics 3020s and some wharfedale 9.1s for my budget setups, the q acoustics are far better than the wharfedales but thats totally personal preference.
@antonioinacioconceicaoreis9004 4 жыл бұрын
You need to try dynaudio special forty its so amazing i thing suprise u!!!!!!!!!
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
I will try one day, thanks
@Billy-rr7re 3 жыл бұрын
the more expensive it is the more pink unicorns come out of it.
@vincentmartinent2518 3 жыл бұрын
Bw 606 or Kef q350? Round Bw 606 vs Kef q350 ? what the better?
@Tharbamar 3 жыл бұрын
It will be decision base on your taste, for the price Q350 is better buy. 606 has a little more top end sparkle than 350.
@LiemNguyen-ve5eg 5 жыл бұрын
How are the Jb L 530 compared to those 3 speakers? The JOb 530 r $300/pairs at Jb L webaite. Music reference is vocal and instrument, esp the guitar and female vocal.
@Tharbamar 5 жыл бұрын
If you can get 530 go for it, that’s one of very good sounding mini monitor speakers. It will sound great with your music.
@LiemNguyen-ve5eg 5 жыл бұрын
How r the jbl 580_compared to the B&W? The jbl r $600 pairs. Music preference is female vocal, instrumental, acoustic or rock ballads. Thanks.
@LiemNguyen-ve5eg 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I got the 530 for 2 weeks. They provide big sound stage. They sound like live music. However, with loud vo!ume, they sound bright to me. I wonder if it is because of my room or my amp. Btw, I drive them by OPPO 205 directly feeds the NuForce S200, that is speced 80w for 8 ohm. Thanks.
@Tharbamar 5 жыл бұрын
Thats how they're going to be at high volume levels as stated in my review video but higher gain nature of STA200 can amplify more noise levels at higher volume as well which is not helping much.
@LiemNguyen-ve5eg 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for ur explanation. Like in ur review, the 530 bass is not quite punchy and clean (it goes lower than expected for a 5 inch woofer, but seems not quite good to my taste). So do u think the 580, hopefully sounds like 590, easier to drive, and better bass ( clean, fast, tight pass, not need to go low but good quality)? Or keep 530 and get a good sub is a better solution than getting the 580 ($600 pair). Many thanks.
@conraddevera 4 жыл бұрын
Ls50 is thicc
@davidharrelson 5 жыл бұрын
I think he likes the 607, more than the 606
@moto-rambler 5 жыл бұрын
Thx for the video -- keep 'em coming. God damn those B&W speakers are ugly. Life's too short to own ugly speakers.
@nivity 5 жыл бұрын
They are actually good looking though. But to each his own ;)
@moto-rambler 5 жыл бұрын
@@nivity They look like Radio Shack floor specials.
@stevenoconnor5693 5 жыл бұрын
motorambler they look nice but in the end it’s a matter of what you get back from the speaker in sound. Aesthetics is secondary
@jC-kc4si 5 жыл бұрын
Some speakers look quite different when you see them in person, some don't photograph very well.
@moto-rambler 5 жыл бұрын
@@stevenoconnor5693 Aesthetics are NOT secondary simply because I can buy speakers in the same category that sound just as good but are not as cheap/ugly looking. You can buy a $600 pair of good sounding ugly speakers or a $600 pair of good sounding speakers -- the choice is yours.
@ramsta 5 жыл бұрын
ONE DOUBT THARBAMAR ONE FAVOR I ALREADY HAVE THE LS50 BUT IM THINKING IN CHANGING FOR THE PSB P5 ALPHA DO YOU THINK THAT THE DIFFERENCE OF SOUND IS VERY HIGH?
@Tharbamar 5 жыл бұрын
You may not be as happy as with LS50 in the long run, P5 is very good speakers for the price but if you get into critical listening you will notice the difference, thanks
@ramsta 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar THANKS A LOT FOR THE RESPONSE
@zindahoon 4 жыл бұрын
Can I come for a cuppa and listen to Focal Aria and B&w at yours please ??
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Those are samples, I do not have them any more.
@zindahoon 4 жыл бұрын
Tharbamar , are you in London ?
@zindahoon 4 жыл бұрын
Was wondering as focal aria is available for £749 , so what’s the best budget amp ? I have Cambridge audio and arcam shortlisted in fact I have focal arche a headphone amp but I m sure it won’t do justice to this speakers And do I need subwoofer for sure ? I listen to every kind of music apart from rap and hiphop
@High-Fidelity1 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand, isn't it the listening comparison that decides the differences? Why does everyone love their own voice? Chattering always ruins a show.
@myothawaung858 5 жыл бұрын
Are you a Burmese?
@Tharbamar 5 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@kyawthura9026 5 жыл бұрын
That what I thinking too. Nice he got accents .
@myothawaung858 5 жыл бұрын
Great, its really good to see a Myanmar Audiophile. I always watch your videos and i could catch a small accent. Keep doing bro, your reviews and advice are pretty straight forward and very helpful. BTW, I own Elac UB5, Pioneer BS22 and FS52. And a bunch of Japanese used amps. I am looking forward to get B&W 607 or Klispch RP600M but that's still too expensive for me.
@Tharbamar 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@emailkenny 2 жыл бұрын
As the content creator stated, the “ sensitivity “ (synergy) of the speaker is critical. If you have a low or average watt amp, you need to go for high sensitivity speakers. Contrarily, if your amp has muscle, you can go for low sensitivity speakers, which “ subjectively “ sound “ better “ 🤪 Also, with most modern (money) amps, you can tune your speakers to your room & liking.
@tomchan2559 5 жыл бұрын
KEF is not worth even half of its price.
@HenryTheBoilermaker3rdYear 5 жыл бұрын
Why say 50 hundred dollar? You can't say 5 thousand?
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