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Speaker Tier List - 31 Speakers in Under 30 Minutes!!!!!!
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Күн бұрынS Tier
Sony SSCS5 (Wait til They are $75-120) amzn.to/3leQBpr
JBL Stage A130 (Wait for $180) amzn.to/3zOrcqK
Neumi BS5 amzn.to/3lgInxc
Elac Unifi 2.0 amzn.to/3fg3Gey
A Tier
Jamo S801 amzn.to/3igtMQC
Cambridge Audio Minx XL
Elac Debut B5.2 (Wait for $250 or less) amzn.to/2UYTjVH
Klipsch RP500M (Wait for $300ish) amzn.to/3jaJ08X
Klipsch RB51ii (Get the while you Can) amzn.to/3zT7WZ9
Emotiva B1+ emotiva.com/pr...
B Tier
Jamo S803 amzn.to/3rLBd5l
KEF Q150 (At $300) amzn.to/3rLCvNu
Elac Debut Reference amzn.to/378t5lQ
KEF Q350 (Wait for $500) amzn.to/3xceHnb
Wharfedale Diamond 12.2 bit.ly/3ffpWoZ
Elac Debut B6 amzn.to/3x9LklD
Klipsch RP600M (At $377) amzn.to/3rM0vjz
C Tier
Micca RB42 amzn.to/3j55b03
Elac Unifi Reference
Dali Spekter 1 amzn.to/3lbFQEw
Polk R100 amzn.to/2WEkLs9
Elac Debut B6.2 amzn.to/379Ei5F
Wharfedale Evo 4.2 bit.ly/2V2S7jy
Polk S20 amzn.to/3lgJJb5
Dali Spekter 2 amzn.to/3zU8nm9
D Tier
Micca MB42X amzn.to/3zQsP7t
Klipsch RP400M amzn.to/3rHNfN7
Klipsch Heresey amzn.to/3jaU5Hb
F Tier
Polk S15 amzn.to/3zQt0j9
Polk T15 amzn.to/3fh8ikx
Klipsch R-51M amzn.to/3ffvzmX
KEF LS50/meta amzn.to/3rI1lhk
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Recommended Speaker List
Around $100 (These prices will fluctuate between $75 - $150)
Sony SSCS5 - Lively amzn.to/3pZNnGk
Pioneer AJ First Gen - Laid Back
Neumi BS5 -Neutral amzn.to/3q0SR3B
Around $200
Emotiva Airmotiv B1+ - Crystal Clear and Punchy emotiva.com?aff=9
Elac Debut b5.2 - Neutral amzn.to/2WPNQxw
Wharfedale Diamond 11.2 (In and Out of Stock) - Laid Back/Bassy/Detailed amzn.to/37W8hPA
JBL Stage A130 - Neutral/Great All Arounder at $179 the best value amzn.to/3t7gOHe
Around $400
Klipsch RP600M - Neutral amzn.to/3pBoXCf (This speaker’s price can fluctuate between $440-630 which is really dumb)
Jamo C93ii Bit - Boosted on Top amzn.to/3beIG6F (Can also be found cheaper at Crutchfield)
Q Acoustics 3030i - Neutral with Punch - amzn.to/2OQkpLo
Around $500
SVS Prime bit.ly/2LozJgF
Wharfedale Diamond 12.2 bit.ly/2ZckoD9
Around $600
Elac Uni-Fi UB5.2 - Neutral amzn.to/3s3srPG
Elac Debut Reference - Buttery but Detailed amzn.to/39bt6WC
Polk Reserve R100 - Neutral
Aperion Novus - Neutral and probably the best desktop speaker one can get $599 bit.ly/2Q1H9rW
Aperion Novus Open Box $449 bit.ly/3us8zGx
Wharfedale Diamonds Lush and Detailed amzn.to/3aBAso0 Come as singles
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Under $100
Aiyima A07 - Neutral and Full amzn.to/3g9YLNf
Around $130
SMSL AD18 - DAC/Amp Lively on top but solid tone controls amzn.to/3rVZxkN
SMSL SA300 $140 amzn.to/3u83oLs
Around $250
SMSL DA-9 Balanced Amp amzn.to/34SdbLs
Around $400
Emotiva TA-100 - DAC, Phono Stage, Pre Outs - Balanced and Tasty emotiva.com?aff=9
Vista Audio Spark www.vista-audio...
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Ifi Zen DAC amzn.to/2T3wuyY
FX D01 amzn.to/3d9GY6U
SMSL SU8s amzn.to/2SWTGiw
Denafrips Ares 2 www.denafrips....
Subs
Emotiva SE8 emotiva.com?aff=9
Emotiva SE12 emotiva.com?aff=9
@cheapaudioman 3 жыл бұрын
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3 жыл бұрын
Ah I wondered why your speaker listings were so poor, you're one of those ignorant "don't tread on me" Pro troops morons. Unsub. C'ya dummy
@brochg 3 жыл бұрын
@ Please go away. This is not a political forum, and we aren’t about to let it become one. I see that that you feel very passionate about some things, and it is your right to feel the way that you wish. Please just don’t do it here.
@cheapaudioman 3 жыл бұрын
@ appreciate that we can all have differing opinions. One of those reasons is because of the sacrifice that people in uniform have made to protect your right to free speech and to have the protection to have view points such as you do. I have served my country in uniform and I will always support those that continue to do so.
@davidgonzales-ec8bo 3 жыл бұрын
@ I thought he was one of those don't tread on me guys, but I actually think his shirt is a Metallica shirt not a tea party shirt. He has Mexican friends, the fat. So he can't be a don't tread on me guy. If he is, then bummer cuz he seems so cool.
@davidgonzales-ec8bo 3 жыл бұрын
I am a huge fan, but some find the don't tread on me philosophy a little offensive. Also, I think you are awesome. I bought the criton 1tdx and a 2tdx center channel because of your glowing review. I couldn't be happier with the speakers. Keep up the great reviews.
@sting0072007 3 жыл бұрын
If you want the best type of woofer, I'd look into getting a Labrador
@cheapaudioman 3 жыл бұрын
Ha. That made me chuckle
@m4nc1n1 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@martywidholm6102 2 ай бұрын
The Irish Wolfhound has a deeper bass sound
@asplmn 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, "richaudioman" ranked the Heresy's as A-tier for their value [compared to $15,000 speakers which also provide magic]. 😂 All about perspective. Thanks for the thoughtful tier list.
@rafaelruiz-tagle358 3 жыл бұрын
I was shocked when he put the LS50's in the lowest tier because it had no bass for the price. LOL! And he is right. They do have no bass. But what you do get for that price, is one of the most awesome sounding and Beautiful speakers out there. I have a 5.2 system in my room (all older LS50s with two 8 inch subs) and it is heaven! Everybody who have listened to my system give me the wow factor, and tell me that it's like listening to headphones. Bottom line is that all of these bookshelf speakers need a subwoofer to really get that 20 Hz range… Probably even the $3500 heresy. And if that's the case, you'll be blown away by the LS50s. But I get what he's doing. I guess he should have not included the heresy because I don't think it belongs there. I shall say no more. :-)
@gg0297 3 жыл бұрын
Next challenge: rate the speakers based on the quality/performance (add more, like the Paradigm Atom Se, Svs Prime, Monitor Audio etc.).
@cheapaudioman 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m going to figure out how to do this better and go back and actually make a list of all the speakers I’ve done. Appreciate You watching
@DeepBarney 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'd like to see how some of these compare on just a quality/performance basis, because it's hard to keep all the details and impressions from the individual reviews in mind when going from one to the next.
@scotto541 3 жыл бұрын
@@cheapaudioman Yes, one more vote for a speaker shootout/ranking based only on your opinion of their sound quality. Also, good stuff, keep up the good work.
@matthewfrew 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'd like to see where you think the SE Atoms fit into something like this
@gizzy2403 3 жыл бұрын
@@scotto541 that's exactly what I thought & want to see🍻
@danielcaswell9945 3 жыл бұрын
I like the ranking list. I'd really like you to do a straight sounds quality ranking in addition to this value tier list.
@cheapaudioman 3 жыл бұрын
It's coming
@LookSee 3 жыл бұрын
With all due respect to this channel, Joe 'n' Tell has a great speaker list which he calls his Leader Board. Worth checking out.
@cheapaudioman 3 жыл бұрын
He sure does. Great info on his.
@Patrick_Runnels 3 жыл бұрын
With all due respect, there are a lot of people who have great list, but each list is different based on the individual and their preferences, ears, media preferences, and a million other factors. So, one more list never hurts.
@bradthurkle7217 2 жыл бұрын
@@Patrick_Runnels 100 percent 👍. It’s interesting how they do it a bit different. I like what he’s done hear.
@divorceddawg 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about the “Saturday Speaker Shootouts” yesterday. Good timing on this.
@Roof_Pizza 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should punish the manufacturers and use their msrp not any artificial sale price. Good video.
@theagent578 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate knowing what price to watch for specific speakers - but you're probably right. Give the award based on msrp - but mention the price it goes down to and how it would affect ranking.
@eddtru 3 жыл бұрын
Still rocking my sscs5, best $75 I've ever spent in audio. Many thanks to the cheapaudioman.
@tharveytucker1 3 жыл бұрын
Was really curious where you’d place the Q Acoustics 3030i
@genxt 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!! How come he missed this!!
@Monsux 3 жыл бұрын
I would place 3030i somewhere between B and S. Q Acoustics speakers are often -30% sale at least in EU. I got my home theater speakers 3030i + 3020i super cheap. Great value if you can get a good deal.
@NeilBlanchard 3 жыл бұрын
Randy - this had to be done! Thank you. If you were so moved, maybe a sound quality rating as a suffix? Maybe 1.0 to 11 ? These go to eleven ... Value is balancing so much - what you like, and what you can afford - and that is excellent to know how you judge these. By adding a audio quality only, might let folks get better sound, and they can decide whether the price is worthwhile for them.
@Beathoven007 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Evo 4.2 needs a higher position. Compared to the others it is a heavy 3-way speaker which cost less than the small ls50 metas. The evo 4.2 is often described as reasonably priced high end. The positioning requirements aren't all that of a problem. Just try to reduce reverb in a room which can be achieved by simple things like rugs, curtains and furniture. They have no ports at the back so sound isolation at the backwall isn't really necessary within normal living room listening volumes. So for what's been given it is bang for buck
@redrock425 Жыл бұрын
The 4.2 are great speakers. The better the input the better they get. Heard mine fed by a 1200AS2 powered amp and they were fantastic.
@sidesup8286 3 жыл бұрын
I like speakers with not that much cabinet area behind the drivers, or below the drivers. Not only does cabinet diffraction smear the sound but your ear/brain system has to figure out the placement of the instruments more, instead of them being sharply focused and instantly obvious exactly where they are coming from. Cabinet area behind the drivers can cause brain confusing cabinet diffraction. There are some strangely shaped speakers like the vintage Spica Angelus and Snell Type A, which purposely had wide cabinet baffles, but the baffles were sloped or rounded, not a shape that standing waves like to hang out. Sound degrading standing waves like straight up and down flat surfaces with a wide width, parallel surfaces, and corners. They really love corners. Which is the reason most peoples rooms don't sound right. Small bookshelf speakers do not have much cabinet area for diffraction to develop. There is a reason to get bookshelf speakers. With a subwoofer the bookshelf speakers can be brought out further from the wall and the subwoofer can be kept back closer to the wall to reinforce the bass with full bass dynamics. Speakers like the vintage Dahlqiist dq10, 20 & 30, Vandersteen model 1 & 2 in all their incarnations etc. have no cabinet behind the midrange and tweeter. They all are famous for their decidedly un-boxy sound, with no sound smearing, from wood behind the drivers. Drivers with incredibly good dispersion can get away with cabinet surface area behind them better than most ordinary designs. There are also some advanced horn designs which have wide cabinets but they are shaped different and are calculated to launch the sound, instead of the common shaped cabinet which standing waves and early reflections like.
@DeepBarney 3 жыл бұрын
Damn you for only ranking my recently purchased (based greatly in part to your review) Elac DBR62 as B tier! You said they were great and could probably be "end game speakers for a lot of people", surely that deserves S tier! Haha I'm just shittin' you. As a value proposition you're probably right on the money with that grade. They are quite nice, but I reckon I could have been just as happy with a lesser speaker at a better price/value. Though maybe these will hopefully save me the cost and headache someday of feeling like I need to upgrade. So in closing, thanks for the awesome video. And I'll echo others in that I hope you'll consider doing a video comparing/tier listing a large swathe of speakers based solely on performance. You've won a like and subscribe from this budding audio enthusiast. Cheers
@dave2288 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, Randy! Where would you rank Emotiva B1+?
@cheapaudioman 3 жыл бұрын
I completely forgot about them. S or A tier
@geezer5236 3 жыл бұрын
Decent first attempt, a few obvious omissions. ( Q accoustics, Emotive) Maybe try later with a tier rating for say $300 and under and then over $300. Would better target those budgeting to a specific price point.
@cheapaudioman 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment? Yes. A few omissions. I’ll do better next time
@Feliciano12v 3 жыл бұрын
Great work! I like this series. Can't wait for the strictly performance-based tier list.
@stepasite 3 жыл бұрын
Great work. The tiers would differ a bit in Europe. Elacs, Dalis and Wharfedales would make it higher. Just check german or uk amazon. Shipping costs matter.
@cheapaudioman 3 жыл бұрын
For sure. Wharfedales are priced very well in Europe from what I understand.
@rap4live39 3 жыл бұрын
Monitor Audio is also a great english brand...
@svalbard01 3 жыл бұрын
3:33 "Aluminum dome tWEEEhtur I believe." The A130s really take Randy back... to puberty.
@ythagakure 3 жыл бұрын
Loving this Tier List! Great Job!
@BobFonseca 3 жыл бұрын
Bold move putting the Metas on the bottom rung. That being said, being the owner of both the KEFs and the little Sony’s (bought for $30/pr) there is a price/reward argument to be made! Love your channel!
@miata1492 3 жыл бұрын
Did you mean rung?
@BobFonseca 3 жыл бұрын
@@miata1492 si… corrected, thanks!
@miata1492 3 жыл бұрын
@@BobFonseca ; - )
@thedirtydutchman9749 3 жыл бұрын
Where do the SVS prime end up on this list sir.
@driver8sk 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this video. Pure sound reviews are nice, but when you have to really think about the $$$'s and what you could get for the same money is where it gets interesting. Also, I would argue that my T15's are a solid B when used as a stand for good speakers :)
@ZIDsVids 3 жыл бұрын
Do we really think T15's are that bad?? New to the channel but dang guys
@SyzygyNoon 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t own T15’s, so I can’t speak to their quality, but the runt of the litter needs love, too.
@wa2368 3 жыл бұрын
T15 is a solid F.
@Time_Traveling_Lesbian 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZIDsVids They are pretty terrible. Im using them as a stand in til I get my Emotiva B1+s, and I was using the dayton Air B652 (60$) until I sold those, And those managed to completely blow the polk speakers its not even close. The dayton ones sounded 10x more expensive than the polk speakers they are just really not good for anything but surround duty
@pbaker7160 10 ай бұрын
Bought the RP 600Ms for $380. I love these speakers. Everyone seems to think they are fatiguing, but I listen to them 8 hours per day at medium to low volume while working. I've owned a few really great speakers in my 55 years and this one just does it for me. I don't really care for flat/neutral speakers anymore. Maybe it's my older age and 40 years of ear damaging drumming :)
@isaac.1991 3 жыл бұрын
After tons of Internet research, and lots of KZfaq videos I stumbled across your channel spent the last few days watching some videos and purchased a set of Jamo s803 with a Fosi Audio BT20a TPA3116. I am extremely pleased, Thank you, your Channel is awesome. And your Humor is Excellent.
@cheapaudioman 3 жыл бұрын
thanks so much
@isaac.1991 3 жыл бұрын
@@cheapaudioman for my audio listening I'm running directly to it but I have tested the Bluetooth with my Samsung TV and on the upgraded Bluetooth version there's almost no latency at least in my setup.
@rjzlwop3153 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review my friend, kind of hard to keep up with all of them and remember which one was where isn’t it! You’re super exciting and I love watching your show I wish it was like an hour long episode every week kind a like the Dukes of Hazzard or the fall guy but very entertaining
@johnsittard7025 3 жыл бұрын
Bought my LS50 (original) for $749. Placement is absolutely critical. I have them 3 feet from the walls and I sit about 8 feet from them. Bass is surprisingly good, but they do need a sub. In my case, the bass extends far deeper than 90 hz before rolling off. Not gut thumping, for sure, but there is some weight. The imaging and transparency is pretty amazing. That’s the magic of these speakers.
@hlurpseed 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a pair of the Sonys. Thank you Randman, the Randmeister, Randola, Randalamadingdong. They are SHOCKINGLY good at an unbelievably cheap price. I use them with the Dayton 12” sub on a Dayton HTA100BT tube amp rolled with NOS RCA and Telefunken tubes. AS CONFIGURED, they stomp the ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2’s even with the better bass response from the ELACs. Speaking of the B6.2s, having to give Danny $380 to fix them is not a great value to me. I am trying to decide if I’m going to sell them, fix them, or just live with them. They are very neutral and nice for the price.
@mikepedersen2042 3 жыл бұрын
A bit surprised CSS audio didn't figure in here. While they are mostly a DIY speaker they can also be had finished. In my opinion they are killer value.
@corkydukeII5898 3 жыл бұрын
Very disappointed to see Jamo C93 II (which you loved) didn't make the list : (
@mastersingleton 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you review both the Adam Audio T7V and the Edifier S2000MKIII and place them in your speaker tier list; as the Adam Audio T7V is another amazing bang for buck speakers at $549.98 for a pair of them along with the surprisingly great sounding Edifier S2000MKIII speakers at $499.99. These speakers punch well above their price range and can even challenge some speakers at the $2000+ price range.
@brochg 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic tiers, and very well presented!!!
@brandony8691 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is one of the only ones asking the right question, which is, "what is the best equipment I can get for a given amount of money." Love it! EDIT: Also, just got a new pair of RP-600M for $377. Paired it up with a Fluance 10" sub and a pretty warm-sounding Denon and it sounds great (especially when I take a dB or two off of the highs with the Denon's EQ).
@cheapaudioman 3 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I would have done. I bet it sounds awesome
@jeffsloane8628 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done Randy. I think the Emotiva B1+ and kit bookshelves you've tested should also be added. I've got 2 S, 1 A, 1 B, 1 D and 1F. Thankfully I only paid $80 for the Klipsch R-51s and $48 for the Micca MB42Xs. I agree, when those Sony's drop below $100 there is no better bang for the buck and that speaker is affecting many of your F grades.
@chrisy4011 2 жыл бұрын
The B1 are on the list tier A but he didn't mention them in the video for some reason. Maybe forgot.
@Monsux 3 жыл бұрын
Here in the EU KEF LS50 meta have been 999€ after tax for two months. I got my pair for 850€. I think at that price it's really good value. I do like the sound way more than my other 300-500€ speakers. I was also thinking of buying pair of Evo 4.2 since they are so cheap in the EU.
@Beathoven007 3 жыл бұрын
I had the Ls50 meta as my number one preferred speaker for a while The evo 4.2 passed it as it is a 3 way and seems to be handle the content with less effort. .
@Monsux 3 жыл бұрын
@@Beathoven007 Evo 4.2 sounds lovely but it's just massive compared to LS50. I do prefer a bit smaller size speakers + subwoofers. I'm planning to keep KEFs as my reference speakers and test others if I have extra money and time.
@jonsays3762 3 жыл бұрын
Adorama runs the Jamo 803 for 109usd regularly. Got them last month and hated the floppy base from the front port. They went on the list that Craig built almost immediately. Your older recommendation of the RB-51 ii was spot on! I’m going sing them on either side of a large desk.
@Abrahamhasnoname 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Randy! Where would you rank the JBL 530 when they’re on sale?
@fluffythecat1770 3 жыл бұрын
This! I can't believe it wasn't included here, @cheapaudioman !
@ReeWebster 2 жыл бұрын
The Elac debuts are really nice and musical. Used to run B&W DM601s as main entertainment system speakers, but they're so clinical and flat the Debuts quickly replaced them, then the B&Ws found good use as an alt ref monitor in the studio.
@snowfiend_8062 3 жыл бұрын
Great review here. I bought my RP-500s and Stage A130s based off of your advice, and am in hi-fi heaven.
@SauceyJo7 3 жыл бұрын
been watching this channel on and off. The video quality is getting better and better. keep up the good work
@sujitbose7411 Ай бұрын
Recommend bookshelf speakers under $500 that deliver: - Balanced sound with crystal clarity and warm signature. - Unfatiguing sound signature for extended listening - Layered, lively, and nuanced vocals with depth and dimensionality - Taut and nuanced bass response with subtle textural details and low-frequency extension - Immersive sonic landscape - forgiving to not so well recorded songs. Prioritize precision, fidelity, and listening comfort in your suggestion:
@cheapaudioman Ай бұрын
I don't think that speaker exists. If you remove 2-3 of your requirements I may be able to recommend something
@sujitbose7411 Ай бұрын
@@cheapaudioman please do sir. I would love to know your recommendation.
@ketchupninja 3 жыл бұрын
Fluance? Got a pair on your recommendation I love em
@bunnyhopbunnyflop7148 2 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty well documented that the RPM-600m has a sizable dip in the upper mid-range, around 2000 Hz. It’s not forward, cutting it with an equalizer in that region will make the speaker even less neutral.
@buttonman1831 3 жыл бұрын
Ls50s become better value the more expensive of an amp you run. My original ls50s on my Hegel h390 competed easily with speakers up to 10k in the highs and mids. I have owned many speakers near the 10k price range and still regard those as one of my favorite speakers of all time. They are misunderstood because they simply will not work with lower end amplifiers.
@zeke937 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Their low efficiency coupled along with the fact that many mistakenly pair them with lower end class D amplifiers (which can give a speaker a thin/harsher sound) makes them really easy to be misunderstood. I have them paired to my Rotel RA-1572 (Class AB with 120 watts of power) and I love the combo. Added a Chord Hugo 2 into the chain as a dac and have been loving it even more. I also take issue with the whole "no bass" part. Two ways that tend to do bass quite well tend to do that at a cost of detail in the midrange/treble (what a speaker should do well). I rather have the detail then have a sub (whose job is do handle the bass frequencies anyways) fill out the bass region. No offence to the reviewer, but the fact that the LS50's are in the "F tier" really has me seriously questioning what amplifier he was using with them to begin with. Ron from "New Record Day" has a more reliable analysis of this speaker, and in his setup he has gear that can really show what the LS50's are capable of.
@andrewforsythe7240 3 жыл бұрын
I think your analysis is quite fair. Thanks.
@Amhey001 3 жыл бұрын
Great job! Would love to see the same list based on your overall sound quality opinion! (no $$$ limitation)
@great100m 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting approach to the evaluation. maybe a 2-axis, performance on one axis and cost on the 2nd
@shaner3d 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting on this! Thanks for great videos!!
@angelotero2581 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your review but I'm not worried about the money. Which 3 sound the best if money wasn't an option?
@DavidDeviney 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I would love a video on definitions of terms you audiophile guys use when critiquing. For example, roll off.
@miata1492 3 жыл бұрын
Do I hear a second? Yes, I'll second your motion.
@jasonc331 3 жыл бұрын
I think Randy should do his used terms with his definitions .
@chriss8319 3 жыл бұрын
Where would you put the CSS Criton 1TD and the GR Research XLS encores?
@kingcarcas1349 3 жыл бұрын
The XLS didn't blow anything away over at ASR
@omnomnymous 2 жыл бұрын
Where would you rate C93 II and C91 II given the sale price of 250 and 200 for a pair respectively?
@nealpugh5319 2 жыл бұрын
Crickets.....CAM? CAM? JAMO 93ii purchase or Emotiva B1+ on the line here
@m4nc1n1 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought 2 sets of the Sony SSCS5 for $73 each set on Amazon last week ($150 today). Also own the Neumi's. Love them both!
@TheBRBvideos Ай бұрын
In the UK the WharfedaleEvo 4.2 is £649, making it great value if you have a good stand of the right height.
@JonPrintzian 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all of your excellent videos. What are your go to tracks for: 1. Bass 2. Treble 3. Mid range 4. Tonal balance 5. Timber 6. Sound Stage / Imaging 7. Female Vocals 8. Male Vocals 9. Other?
@carlsitler9071 3 жыл бұрын
I would guess this will gets some views over the next year. Where does the GR Research XLS Encore fit in?
@alexanderg26 3 жыл бұрын
A great entry value is the Pioneer SP-BS22LR. Prices do fluctuate but at lowest ($59 - Fry's in SoCal) it was an absolute steal.
@cheapaudioman 3 жыл бұрын
Very true. Hard to find now though
@halozfinest88 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man. Could you review some Audioengine speakers? Thanks
@Ph03n1xX87 3 жыл бұрын
Really love your videos Very helpful thanks for this For a home cinema setup can you recommend a 3.0 setup with the jamo s803 plus center Or anything for a wide stage and stunning effect that you pick over the jamo at a similar price point? Best Dré
@chucksimonds5164 2 жыл бұрын
You should re-do all your tier videos and rank them by performance and let the buyer determine if they are worth the cost to them.
@Kmmc2011 Жыл бұрын
A part 2 of this for all the speakers you couldn't fit in :D
@quantumrift11 2 жыл бұрын
Where might the ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2 fall on this tier list? I know some time has passed, and to be fair whatever more current lines of any given speaker would need to be included.. But I just am hearing from many sources that the best bang for your buck speaker under 300 or even under 500 bucks is the ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2. What's your take?
@jamiejwaters 3 жыл бұрын
OK so they do originate from the other side of the pond and they do put the queen on their money but we must give props where props are due and the Q Acoustics 3030i (especially but the 3010i and 3020i as well) should easily hit S tier :)
@cheapaudioman 3 жыл бұрын
Absolute failure on my part to include. I forgot a few very good speakers on this list. The 3020i would have been a or b tier
@jamiejwaters 3 жыл бұрын
@@cheapaudioman at the rate at which you review speakers there were bound to be a few that got lost in the shuffle. Keep up the great work!
@marksnelling5839 3 жыл бұрын
Where’s the SVS bookshelf speakers?!?! There two price points to pick from and they’re amazing!!!
@___7247 2 жыл бұрын
Liked! Thank you for putting a summary of the info on the description.
@kevmacs807 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Thank You! I wish you weee into Home Theatre. Would love to see this done with Centre Speakers as they are all over the map. I’m currently looking at Emotiva for the front 3 speakers. But I don’t have the luxury of trying out multiple systems like you do on your channel. (Which again is great!)
@andrewforsythe7240 3 жыл бұрын
The Elac B6.2 opens up at about 200 hours. I have them . Good 👍 stuff. Using sub.
@dynodin81 3 жыл бұрын
I had them for about 2 weeks but sent them back, i just wasn't sure how long it would take to open up.
@andrewforsythe7240 3 жыл бұрын
@@dynodin81 I believe for many people they are too neutral, I had to get used to that also. But my system is on about 12 hours per day, so was broken in quickly. Break in is real. However I am looking for the fun factor now, may buy Jamo C93ii or Klipsch Rp500m. I need the added treble, not so young anymore. But will keep my Elac B6.2's they are most accurate and do benefit from better electronics.
@jakilahmoulien9070 3 жыл бұрын
Sony should make a more refined version for this speaker. And I'm still waiting for the STR DN1090 to come out. why are they taking so long to update these.
@luffy8049 2 жыл бұрын
In Germany you can get Kef Q350 most of the time for 399€ (~445$) und Sometimes for 333€ (372$). For this price they are amazing. 🎶
@atortiz 3 жыл бұрын
Jamo S803 are on sale at Ad-oram for $109 still (as of 8/3/21). Does this make them A+???
@danielsullivan7541 Жыл бұрын
Where do the SVS speakers fall on this lst?
@mentok3027 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the breakdown! I'm piecing together a small stereo setup after years of apartment living. I picked up an old NOS Yamaha RX-V793 receiver from the late 90's off c-list. I don't care about surround sound, but it was $60 and has preouts for all channels plus sub, and a 90hz high pass. I was also able to score a Sunfire HRS-12 powered sub for $175 which is a bit overkill for my 15x15 room, but couldn't pass it up. I was using a pair of old 80's Canton Plus S 4ohm bookies as my mains, but these went to work with me to be powered by a Nobsound mini bluetooth amp. I'm running some old Boston A60's as mains now, but I'm borrowing them from my garage stereo. I'm looking for something under $300 new or used that does well with metal/alt/punk/ska/80's synth etc. , but isn't overly bright. Low end extension isn't crucial as I have a 1000w rms sealed 12" sub to augment that. The receiver supposedly has 75 rms a channel, but I'm not overly worried about efficiency as it has preouts so that could just give me an excuse to buy a separate amp down the line. The dimensions I have to work with are 13"D x 15" W x 24" H, and that would give me 1" from the wall. The Cantons are sealed 4" 2 ways so they aren't picky about placement. Neither are the A60's as they are also sealed, but with an 8" woofer. I have a feeling I should try to find front ported bookies given my placement limitations? This is a near field setup with each speaker being about 4 feet from me, and separated by about 6 feet left to right. I've been leaning towards some Emotivas as I've always wanted to try some ribbon tweets. I've had aluminum(paradigms) titanium (MB Quart/JBL) cone (Cambridge model 6/KLH/Jensen/Toshiba/Pioneer/Fisher/Technics/etc.) and plenty of silk soft domes, which have always been my favorite(cambridge newtons,bostons,cantons,wharfedales,brauns,minimus 7s,polks,etc.)
@hauntedhomevideo 3 жыл бұрын
Hi!, Which would you recommend to upgrade from the RB42s? They sound great but I have to turn the volume way up which I don't like. Looking to spend about as much as I paid for the RB42s. Appreciate any help or guidance👊 Great vid, btw!
@dawolyan13 3 жыл бұрын
Only two that surprised me totally was the Evo 4.2 and the Dali. I do get your formula. Thank you for the time and effort. I have learned more in the last six months about how to wisely spend my money, and a lot of laughs! I went with the JBL Studio 220 on sale, a used Emotiva Flex amp, and I couldn’t be happier! Used what I learned here for my purchases. The JBL Studio 220 I bought on sale for 140, and the soundstage is so good it’s made me think someone else was in the room for a sec!
@Fredd165 2 жыл бұрын
Why does the Evo 4.2 and Spektor surprise you? I’m thinking of purchasing the Evo 4.1 but looking if I can get a slightly cheaper alternative. Maybe the Wharfedale 11.2 (if I can find it now that it’s been discontinued) or the BW 606 S2. Budget max £450… any recommendations?
@dawolyan13 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fredd165 I don’t remember!!😂 I think what surprised me was the order. That he placed those higher than other speakers he seemed more enthusiastic about. I think they are ALL good speakers! I will tell you, after a LONG time of looking, listening, and researching, if I can find a reasonably priced pair of JBL Studio 230s, I’m buying them in a second!
@9874561203 3 жыл бұрын
I've got the Q150s, paid $400 for them. Love them. Absolutely agree that $600 is too much for them. How do you feel about Bowers and Wilkins bookshelf's?
@cheapaudioman 3 жыл бұрын
I actually haven’t heard a single one
@DougMen1 3 жыл бұрын
They're like most Klipsch bookshelfs (excluding the RP500M, which is their best by far) with really sucked out midrange and super bright highs. Andrew Robinson is a B&W lover, and he just did a scathing review of the 606. He hated them with a passion, and he likes bright speakers too. B&W is going downhill fast. Their quality goes down as fast as their prices go up
@ENGBriseB Жыл бұрын
The Wharfedale EVO & Diamond speakers are great. Like the SVS Subwoofer great.
@jonuiuc 3 жыл бұрын
What are the major differences between the Elac Debut Reference vs the Wharfdale 12.2? I know they are both on the forgiving side of things. Are there some qualities for some situation one works better than the other (type of power, etc). They are both the same price nowadays.
@xavdeman 3 жыл бұрын
Wharfedale has a signature sound that is on the warmer side. Believe this was confirmed in the Wharfedale 12.2's review.
@AbsoluteFidelity 3 жыл бұрын
12.2 way more neutral and 'musical'. The warmth and smoothness of the 12.2 is hard to beat.
@raymoore8435 3 жыл бұрын
I hear great things about the Tekton M-Lore small floor stander at about 650.00 shipped
@kman9387 3 жыл бұрын
One more to consider is the Focal chorus 605 at $299 for the pair! And every part of this speaker is handmade in France 🤘👌👍 It's the most affordable and attractive looking speaker from a high end company!
@iggypopisgod9 3 жыл бұрын
link to purchase?
@wadimek116 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't recommend any focals, I sell them. They look nice play alright cost more than competition. You are paying for premium look and french manufacturing.
@ccadp1219 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff......do more videos like this PLEASE!
@fletchermunson6225 3 жыл бұрын
Goo Job by the hardest working man in auto.But what happened to CSS Criton? At about $700 if value means sound quality for the buck, I'd have it high up. But you have to make them and work for it.
@Johnny-ov7qe 8 ай бұрын
@cheapaudioman have you tried the super small desktop Klipsch RB 41 II? Found a pair locally for super cheap. Not bad sound for such a tiny presentation (only 8 inches tall).
@jeffdunes7431 3 жыл бұрын
I know the SVS Prime has to be on this list but it is not. It went on sale for $400 on AMAZON.
@aceofspades6667 3 жыл бұрын
ChiefAudioMan bringing the heat in this one!
@aceofspades6667 3 жыл бұрын
Great list of bookies
@salmonline 3 жыл бұрын
No floor-standers at all?
@cheapaudioman 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t have enough of those to do one. But I should next time. This was tough to do with 30. I’m going to figure out how to do this better next time aeound
@carlsitler9071 3 жыл бұрын
I probably will always use towers in my main system. Maybe the Wharfedale 4.2 could work for me. I can't imagine any speaker system, I could afford, could ever rival my planar headphones system.
@nc3419 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the Cambridge Audio Minx XL and can only be acquired through private dealers (outside Amazon, etc.) who may or may not offer the discounted price.
@Tigeron1a 2 жыл бұрын
Sony SSCS5 is a fantastic bargain speaker that you can totally tweak if you want, Danny from GR also has an upgrade kit for them too. I have these and have tested some really expensive speakers and these can put 1500 dollar speakers to absolute shambles.
@chrismac3779 3 жыл бұрын
I think you did a great job putting this list together, with good explanations on why you put them in which tier. Out of curiosity, the Fluance Signature and Reference, if added, where would you place them. No need for an explanation why. I would place the Signatures in A tier, and the Reference in C tier. Keep up the great work!
@cheapaudioman 3 жыл бұрын
That where id put them too
@mrelac6817 2 жыл бұрын
Love the realistic in the background behind you I grew up with a 2100 non D model just 2100 it was the one that pioneer sued them over my mom had it I love that thing later in life I did get my hands on an SX 1080 from Pioneer and I don’t know I kinda like the little warm and fuzzy sound that the realistics sue me lol. Realistic really never got the respect they should I had one of their ghetto blasters with these red meters it would go left and right right above the tape deck and it was like the best sounding boombox you could get I mean I actually had soundstage bass and everything with everybody else’s big boom box when we go somewhere to show them off they was just loud with no sound quality . The good old days of hifi .
@stephenstevens6573 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a whole lotta speakers to keep track of in your head, man!
@andrejoao 3 жыл бұрын
Randy, great video! Even though much above the price range of speakers you usually review, I would like if you would get hand on a pair of Buchardt S400 and also the Buchardt A500.
@cheapaudioman 3 жыл бұрын
Those sound like fun
@willemvdg9557 3 жыл бұрын
Or maybe the S300 MK II, €1200 at the moment. Great list btw!
@wa2368 3 жыл бұрын
@@cheapaudioman Don't review Buchardt. Don't metamorphose from the "CheapAudioMan' into a 'WalletAbuseRon'. WalletAbuseRon has ruined thousands of marriages.
@burgie4241 3 жыл бұрын
What about the Emotiva B1+ you reviewed and seemed to like a lot---?
@cheapaudioman 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Unfortunate omission. The notes have been updated
@mcjonner 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video! Thanks. Helps put things into perspective
@jimshaw899 2 жыл бұрын
It's all about personal taste, and price. One man's idea of beauty is an oak or birch tree, another's is a Christmas tree. My idea of a Christmas tree-speaker is that it's amusing, mostly for kids -- for about five days. A birch or an oak tree-type speaker will remain in good taste for decades and endure generations of kitchen remodelings. As such, it's worth considerably more in price. YMMV
@lukerabin5079 3 жыл бұрын
It’s good you’re letting your free range Pomeranian fatten up for the holidays. Come thanksgiving, it should be fine eating for the whole family. And your kids should be delighted!
@shawnm1856 2 жыл бұрын
The Jamo S801's are $109, $119 & $139 on Zon today July 19, 2022. They're $79.99 on Woot today.
@davlippo7 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 pairs of the Elac Unifi 2.0 and I wired each pair in series with the Sony SSCS5. Crazy good stuff. The Sony adds a tad more excitement up high whereas the Elac handles everything else.
@aammdj 2 жыл бұрын
No JBL Studio series?
@nmnate 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, sadly I agree about the LS50's value. They do need a subwoofer...but the thing that gets me is their sensitivity. For such a small speaker they need a surprising amount of power. I do think they're good speakers (especially the cabinet build). IIRC I got my older LS50s for $900 on sale, before the wireless/metas came out so I didn't think it was tooo expensive. They're just not anywhere near what some folks would consider a "value" level of pricing.
@StevePilgrim2013 3 жыл бұрын
Super idea for a video. Now amps & dacs!!!
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