www.cinesamples.com Learn five different methods of study in this informative video filled with audio and score examples. For Educational Use Only.
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@jeduardolopezo5 жыл бұрын
Wow!! The orchestration of his own piece was mind-blowing! Would love more of these videos, Mike! :D
@DarwinIsInCharge5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I will try and think up some others
@TomMAF45 жыл бұрын
@@DarwinIsInCharge I 2nd that 100% This is honestly one of the best, most well intention-ed, "tutorials" I've ever watched. Kinda like you can give a man a fish and he can feed for a day, but give him the tools to learn how do full score reductions and he'll stop being shit... or something along those lines. Super empowering stuff. Either way I'm making a FSR of Beethoven's 9th atm due to the inspiration from this so THANK YOU!!! :)
@DarwinIsInCharge5 жыл бұрын
@@TomMAF4 Tom I sincerely appreciate your words as its a lot of work (and thinking)! The next one is 3-4 days away from being finished - thanks for your support.
@RobertoDAlessandro5 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for information about this precise topic for SO LONG. I can't thank you enough for uploading this video! I already study from scores from years but this really cleared my mind about the "big picture" of it. Thanks, thanks, thanks!
@GeorgeStreicherMusic5 жыл бұрын
Extremely valuable information! I really hope to see more content like this from you guys. Fantastic.
@JohnPiscitello5 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Every film music student should watch this on their first day.
@sanskiii81393 жыл бұрын
I've learned more from this channel on orchestration than in my college. Thank you for these amazingly high-quality materials!
@elijakaufmann82453 жыл бұрын
I played your orchestration of "Beauty and the Beast" in a life-to-film concert last year and I really enjoyed it a lot! Great work and great lesson too! Thank you!
@nolanrobertson1471 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. So many jaw-dropping and game-changing pieces of info
@kylemccuiston5 жыл бұрын
Definitely want more of this. Absolutely fantastic.
@sissiwang9074 жыл бұрын
I must say thank you for making this video. The information in it have such importance on composing even contemporary classical music.
@Slynell12 жыл бұрын
For those that dont know who's voice it is. his name is Anthony Parnther, now one of the top conductors in Hollywood.
@ishagshafeeg5 жыл бұрын
I can't thank you enough for sharing this wonderful work. Great.
@VFXCommander5 жыл бұрын
Welcome back, CineSamples. Finally started uploading videos again. You have a lot to keep up with Spitfire.
@dariusofwest5 жыл бұрын
Watching this while preparing some notation for string overdubs- this vid was awesome!
@wstromberg13 жыл бұрын
That was extremely good. Now I'm completely inspired to go pull out all of my favorite scores to study. Thanks, Anthony.
@cinesamples.official3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@mmaybrown5 жыл бұрын
16:09 - 16:27 is magic!! Really great writing!
@gtizzle1015 жыл бұрын
no kidding! I gasped audibly
@maxalaintwo35784 жыл бұрын
Deadass sex music
@MatheusWitt3 жыл бұрын
That is the most sexy thing I've ever listening.
@OliKember5 жыл бұрын
Encore! Looking forward to more in the series!
@conuredude5 жыл бұрын
What a superb video. This is gold!
@nevets09106 ай бұрын
My god what an amazingly informative video, learned so much!
@danonmily Жыл бұрын
This video is pure gold
@liteoner5 жыл бұрын
This was super intriguing, even though I have minimal knowledge in orchestration
@marianogarrido4282 Жыл бұрын
incredible explanation with an excellent voice
@sebastiandudek40165 жыл бұрын
Great, informative and inspiring video! :-) Please, upload some similar tips. It's great that you combine composition and orchestration with conducting, playing live and recording situations.
@PrasadVidhyabaskaran3 жыл бұрын
This was a hidden gem! I am glad I stumbled upon this video. To the point and clear!! Thank you for your service. And I loved the sample of your piece, what is the name of that track ? It reminded me of my favorite Gershwin moments
@jorgestramusic4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant... Thank you Cinesamples!
@Youarecanadian5 жыл бұрын
Great vid and what a fantastic narrator! :)
@AndiAngvil3 жыл бұрын
Why is no one talking about this goosebumping voice?))
@maxtofone5 жыл бұрын
Much gratitude for this video... Cheers, Max T.
@jsnell1265 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Confirms many of my own observations in score study. IMSLP is a godsend for those of you who don't know about it. One thing that always strikes me as odd when listening to different versions of the same piece is the panning of the brass. Each brass section is sometimes in a wildly different location on the stage (or in the mix). Anyone have any insight into that? Is it dependent on the venue/soundstage/orchestra/conductor's preference ... all of the above?
@ArturoAlbero4 жыл бұрын
This is gold. Thank you!
@oscarazcautli53805 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks for this Mike.
@domenicomastroianni49055 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! An other very good resource Michael! What's the name of your piece? Its "hollywood sound" is fantastic! Can I find it on Spotify /KZfaq?
@PeteCalandra5 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid. Thanks.
@snarf15045 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video!
@dariuszradej10775 жыл бұрын
SUPER! Thank you Michael:-)
@PeterLewysPreston4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Thank you!
@gijsvanamelsvoort36895 жыл бұрын
This stuff is gold!
@KrystofDreamJourney5 жыл бұрын
Another Great video Mike ! As a jazz pianist/NHL organist and composer myself, I find your insight especially valuable, because it is cinematic-scoring oriented. How to achieve "that" specific sound. I like the selections you choose, especially originating from somehow neglected Italian opera scores. But that's exactly what early Hollywood masters studied themselves ! Opera scores for balance and color. I use tons of sample libraries, (including almost all CineSamples products) for my orchestral mockups. I'm looking forward to perhaps expanding your orchestral insight into scoring a particular piece with sample libraries, and pointing out what they CAN do, and what is somehow hard to achieve without live players. I'm tempted to devote time and energy (after my NHL season is over) to record entire score, either by Lili Boulanger or Ravel, all with sample libraries. I'll keep you posted...
@DarwinIsInCharge5 жыл бұрын
thats cool - I am a huge hockey fan what team do you play for?
@KrystofDreamJourney5 жыл бұрын
Tampa Bay Lightning :-)@@DarwinIsInCharge
@DarwinIsInCharge5 жыл бұрын
awesome i’m rooting for tampa bay as a rangers fan so we can get your first round draft pick instead of the second - and you have half our team - that’s awesome !
@KrystofDreamJourney5 жыл бұрын
DarwinIsInCharge Yes. Agree ! I particularly like JT Miller, who moved to TBL from NY Rangers.
@austintaylor554 жыл бұрын
STUDY METHODS 1) General Score Study (with comparative listening) 1:28 2) Piano Reduction Study 11:29 3) Piano Expansion Comparison Study 13:59 4) Presentation Study 17:05 5) Live Study - 23:12
@scentline4 жыл бұрын
Comparative Listening - 05:39
@Qermaq3 жыл бұрын
7:30 sometimes you want that rough coordination. If you wrote it like they end up playing it, that would be insane. I think I like that effect in the right place.
@thisaudientlife54255 жыл бұрын
Top information!
@ROBRESETAR5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
@MaxTooney5 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thank you.
@musicaliceo5 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@conforzo5 жыл бұрын
I think the subject of score study is vastly underappreciated. Too often many people say "Judt score study". I mean sure I can read the music but don't get any knowledge out of it.
@rubenmolino14802 жыл бұрын
EXCELENT!
@KrystofDreamJourney5 жыл бұрын
Expanding on my earlier comment : which other classical scores would you suggest to study for achieving that “cinematic style and approach” ? In addition of course to the “obvious ones” that everyone already knows: The Planets, Pictures at an Exhibition, The Nutcracker etc. The thing is : “action music” style has been pretty much well covered in countless mockups, sample libraries analysis all over the internet. I like the “other styles” you suggested in your great video : romantic, melancholic and most of all, perhaps the hardest : the comedy. Yes ! The comedy. Which classical scores are good, valuable sources for that “instant memory recall” if one’s faced with comedy scoring assignment ? Pizzicatos, glisses, quirky melodies- but not necessarily “Mickey-Mousing” sounds and licks...
@DarwinIsInCharge5 жыл бұрын
I really like Rachmaninoff Vespers, Fantasia on Thomas Tallis; Rachmaninoff Symphony 2, Shostakovich 11, Shostakovich Piano Concerto 2, West Side Story Symphonic Dances, Gershwin American in Paris for some pieces you may find film sections in.
@changliu90735 жыл бұрын
What a insightful video!!!! Thanks so much!!!!! One question, at 16:09, what are the strings and horns libraries used in the recording?? Are they from cinesamples?? They sound really good together.
@DarwinIsInCharge5 жыл бұрын
chang liu Hi! That’s the live Hollywood Scoring Orchestra
@KrystofDreamJourney5 жыл бұрын
@@DarwinIsInCharge Absolutely yes ! There are many things that would be so hard, and almost next to impossible to fully achieve with just sample libraries. I love your composition and how you choose colors in the orchestra. Excellent example of going from piano to orch...
@SuberDuberUberEvan3 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know of a full version of 16:08? Or anything like it? I'm in love with rising string section
@allstarmic67923 жыл бұрын
@DarwinIsInCharge PLEASE, if we can have the score whether it’s just the one page or more, or your own composition example, it would mean everything :) 🙏
@SuberDuberUberEvan3 жыл бұрын
@@allstarmic6792 I think Cinesamples wrote it himself, and it's just that brief moment... but that moment puts me in tears!
@discoshark3 жыл бұрын
How would we know which pieces to listen to for which techniques if we haven't learn the basics/fundamentals? Are there any resources for this? :)
@allstarmic67923 жыл бұрын
I’ve been figuring this dilemma out as well... I assume just doing the techniques, piano reductions etc. of “core pieces” (such as The nutcracker suite, the planets by Gustavo holst, la mer by Debussy, firebird by Stravinsky, etc.) will ultimately develop your fundamental understandings. As well as composing on Own... trail and error with feedback 🙏
@ripper30202 жыл бұрын
Is this really free? Damn, this Is gold
@NguyenHien-rl1ux2 жыл бұрын
Some segments in the video are stamped not adjacent to each other
@citizenworld80942 жыл бұрын
Anyone else come here from Spitfire's orchestration lessons? 😆
@ithinkthistimeitsgoingtowork3 жыл бұрын
turandot loll
@guillaumesaintgilles32704 жыл бұрын
Nice video, but again I always feel like all these videos on youtube give people the illusion/hope they will actually learn something in a few minutes they can then use to write like a classically trained musician. It is absolutely false. Writing and orchestrating like a John Williams for example takes decades to master. At the bare minimum, if you already read music fluently, you will need to dedicate at least 5 years of your life to harmony and four-part writing which is the basis of classical composition, and then give another 5 years to orchestration. And that is if your gifted... Mind you I am not saying you cannot screw around with all the awesome sound libraries now available and make cool music. You might even make it big in the industry, after all Hans Zimmer knows very little about music and has made with his team great soundtracks and millions of dollars. But again if we are talking about J.Williams level composers, Jerry Goldsmith, Bernard Herrmann, John Barry, Sergio Leon, all this guys were classically trained for many years before being able to write anything worthwhile.
@michaelbarrymusic6694 жыл бұрын
This is more "give a man a fish and you've fed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you've fed him for a lifetime." The 10,000 hours rule still applies.
@henningbackhaus62682 жыл бұрын
Agree in principle, but I doubt that the John Barry patterns really have such a high level. (Btw Sergio Leone didn't compose anything.)
@neilsaunders6009 Жыл бұрын
I've liked the video itself, but I must register my strong protest against "to classical score study" as a verb! Why not entitle the video "How to study classical scores from the perspective of a film composer"?