I always thought the events of the new trilogy were how the timeline originally went before Cornelius and his wife went back in time.

One could argue that the original movie is the first timeline, with the Caesar trilogy echoing it in a different timeline caused by all the time travel in the original sequels?

Your timeline makes logical sense to tie this universe together. Thanks!

Giving this a big Proximus style “Yes!” Good job. This is the most reasonable timeline imo. I have always been shocked by those who didn’t figure this out. Most hadn’t seen half of the OG sequels, so that may be part of peoples confusion. This lays it out well. Good job, thank you. Now I can just share this with a friend rather than making something that (again seems pretty straight forward) clear to them.

This is insane!! Incredible production and severely underrated, hope you get more views!

I saw the tim burton planet of the apes and while I didn't HATE it, I was so thoroughly confused by the twist ending and I assume I wasn't the only one. I bring that up as I only just RECENTLY found a video that explained just what the heck happened in a way that I could understand.

gonna have to take the agree to disagree option here, in the Rise franchise the icarus left earth much later than the 1970's departure in the original, and thus while it's certainly a nod to the original movie it's not the same ship lmao

Great job trying to make sense of something so difficult like this.

beautiful video bro, this deserves more views

I'm not going to lie, but this guy gave me Matt pat vibes in a good way

The original film does explain that humans destroyed themselves with nukes. The humans in the original sequel were disfigured by the radiation and were able to telepathically communicate with each other. They also talked about how a virus killed all dogs and cats which led humans to domesticate apes, which lead them to becoming slaves, and they adapted and grew smarter. But when they traveled back in time, it caused the original events to happen much more rapidly. The way I see it, Rise - War is set in another timeline, a timeline that was created as a result of the Icarus being used to travel backwards through time, instead of forward. I like how they set up their multiverse, but I hate that it's a catch all explanation to every film nowadays. It feels lazy. Just say it's a reboot.

my favourite franchise of all time your a legend

You forgot to elaborate on Caesar speaking the word “no”. I got what you were going for when you said “or is it”. But you never returned to that topic when you started talking about the reboot trilogy. I understand that the apes said the first word that was spoken was “no “ by Cesar in the reboot trilogy was actually the starting point chronological wise.

i love this guys enthusiasm

There are no prequels in the original trilogy, that's like saying Back to the Future 3 is a prequel because they went to 1885. Characters from the 1968 film went back in time so it's still a continuation of the original.

Great video!!! watched thru all of them and am working on my own Apes video and this was awesome to watch!!! the entire time i was watching i was trying to spin together how the timelines would work out together. Also! have you seen the DVD insert of the Burton timeline for just that movie ? it’s ridiculous and convoluted and very funny to try and rationalize

Why people feel this urge to connect completely unrelated thing? It's a reboot series. This was stated by the producers themselves. You can compare them, it's fun. The end.

Good video, i can finally understand the timeline alittle better

Can’t wait to see it tomorrow! May 8th 7pm IMAX 🍿🍿

“How to connect ALL of the Planet of the apes movies” immediately ignores the Tim burton movie because it’s not remembered as fondly as some others. Wow great work

What a wonderful video!

Very well done. Thank you!

The exact same theory I've had since watching Dawn in the cinema, well put together video mate

in Escape from the Planet of the Apes, Cornelius explained that the first Ape to talk was Aldo not Caesar

Rise, Dawn, War and Kingdom are NOT a literal prequel to the 1968 Planet Of The Apes they do references to them but thats it

Damn. Got yourself a sub good sir.

Great review

9:03 I disagree that the 3 movies after Beneath TPOTA is are prequels! These characters exist come from the first two movies and travel back in time that’s not the same as a movie being set before the initial MCs existed or are a younger version of themselves

Actually in Escape from the Planet of the Apes, Cornelius said that the first ape to ever say no was named Aldo. Also the Icarus was launched in 73, but in the 2010s in Rise so that doesn’t makes sense

Escape was the first one i seen when i was home sick from school. I dont know i was channel surfing (God to i miss finding things that way) and it caught my eye immediately and i remember being in shock at that ending but also being grateful that atleast Caesar was ok.

I’ve never watched these movies but I’m going to do it. I’m going to do it according to your theory. Seems like it’ll be fun!

It’s a reboot clearly. Would be too coincidental for the names Caesar , Nova, Cornelius, Blue eyes all to have been used again at some point in the timeline

Well done!

This could be true, but there is still a bit of plot holes if combined together. Such as the astronauts lost in Space in Rise. This crew was going to Mars and at a different year than the original astronauts. But still your timeline looks really interesting and could be the case.

And Kingdom is supposed to come right after War... THEN the OG Apes movies just like you said. THANK you for this. :D Now, there IS a comic series that takes place right after Tim Burton's retelling. I DID like that movie but fail to see how it would fit in this WHOLE time line we both agree to. So, while the time line that I discovered, and was further validated by you and this video, lines up completely, I put Tim Burton's Ape movie right after that and call it a "sort of retelling" because we ARE talking about time travel and all that.

The balls with that Disney executives joke had me OMFG 🤣. Also, does that mean Kingdom would be place in between War and the original?

Holy cow! I didn't know the timeline was this confusing! I do eventually wanna go back and watch the previous movies in the franchise. Glad I stumbled across this video randomly!

Just use the multiverse effect. Original 5 is one. 2001 is another And the current films are another. Really isn’t that difficult as it’s impossible to link them all together and is the only way to make sense.

It's all FANTASY...FANTASY....BUT WHAT A GRAND OLD TIME IVE HAD HAVING MY IMAGINATION HELD SWEETLY HOSTAGE...I LOVE THE CURRENT FILMS...HAD PLENTY OF EMOTIONS COME UP AT THE END OF WAR...WITH CEASAR BEING KILLED OFF...

I think there are four separate continuities:- 1. The original stands on its own. Taylor is well aware they are travelling into the far future on a one way ticket out of the 20th Century. 2. Beneath, Escape, Conquest & Battle. These all fit together. Brent is on a rescue mission for Taylor's ship. But that's impossible to be the Taylor of the original, as they were on a one way journey and didn't expect to be coming back. So Beneath is a new continuity, with Brent coming after another version of Taylor in a different continuity. 3. Burton's. Obviously stands alone as a reboot. 4. Rise, Dawn, War & Kingdom. The story of Caesar for the initial trilogy and now continuing on in the future of that same world...

During the first film in the reboot, the director himself said that it wasn’t apart of the original pentalogy but something of its own wit similarities to the original. The original has already told an entire story and even loops bak on itself in the fourth film to tie the entire story line together and is completed wit the final film. However, I see a lot of videos that try to tie the reboot to the original films.

Now connect the new series to the TV live-action series and TV animated series. Also, connect it to the book while you're at it.

4:12 also, he would come to the conclusion that humans nuked everything due the fact that the Cold War was happening wen he was sent into space. 🤷🏽‍♂️

i really liked the 2001 planet of the apes movie, I was entertained pretty much throughout the whole movie.

Your opinion that the directors are wrong in calling *their* movies a reboot isn't really an opinion, it's just an objectively wrong statement. If the creators state a work is a reboot, that's the end of the argument. The details you say connected the movies to the others are just call backs to the other films as youd expect a reboot to do. That's all.

“Holy Toledo Ohio” is such a deep cut. I tried to find the movie is it called “the electric maid” or something like that?

The "prequels" as you say, are not prequels, they are sequels as they take place after Taylor, Cornelius and Zira going back in time does not change that.

Even though Cornelius and Zira start the new timeline, the story of Aldo being the first talking ape is from before they created the new timeline and thus according to your timeline, part of the timeline that starts with RIse, which presents Caesar as the first talking ape. that is a contradiction that would require further explanation if we want it to be the answer.

Roddy McDowell in every movie. What an Easter egg

No don't connect to the originals please

My personal belief is that the rise franchise ties perfectly into the first movie but the connection ends there, it just gets too muddied at below the planet of the apes and all the ones past that

It actually does end in Nuclear war in Kingdom Of The Planet Of The Apes because the humans are shown that they have military stuff so they do fight back but loose but it results in all humans left dying in the war

So do you think -- time line wise -- that Kingdom will be a sequel to Battle... or will it be a continuation of the original unaltered timeline that will end with Beneath?

Nice overview....but how about kingdom of the planet of the apes??

OMFG, have so many people really lost the understanding of "remakes'?! I suppose some clowns must think that Thade's father in the Burton film was Taylor who had somehow reincarnated as an ape, just because of Charlton Heston's cameo! In the current reboot movies, older fans like me recognized various nods to the originals as nostalgic homages, but they were clearly not meant to imply any sort of continuity to them, in any direction of time. What would've been the point of merely re-telling the same story and sequence as in the original films? Remakes usually try to update a certain aspect in order to make it a fresher rendition of the material it's based upon. "Scarface" (1983) is a remake of the 1932 film. Simple as that. Not surprisingly, many people didn't even know that the Pacino version was a remake, since there's half a century between them. I hope this over-speculation of the POTA franchise is all just being done for laughs, but too many people in the comments seem to be taking this too seriously! Why stop here, then?! Why not just try to connect the 1936 "King Kong" with the remake from the '70's and the Peter Jackson version?! And then connect the cartoon version of "the Lion King" with the CGI remake. Oh, better still, have fun trying to connect the original Batman series to the Burton movies, the Nolan movies, and every other Batman-related movie ever made.

I dont think the new planet of the apes movie starting with rise are connected to the original 5 movies. Its a reimagining/rebooted version.

there is no connecting the movies!

i think you could fit them together except for the tim burton one

I loved the 1974 TV series!

I think they are gonna remake the originals as sequels, but a movie about futuristic hyper-intelligent apes living in a wasteland isnt too comercially atractive nowadays

I think this is a good optional way to watch the movies. However I really doubt the new movies are prequels. If rise started to be a prequel then the other movies retconned it. I don’t think the creators even know yet. They could either remake the OV planet of the apes after awhile as part of the reboot series or get it to the point to connect it to the original movie.

I just saw Kingdom. I really liked it and am curious to see how this new trilogy will shape out...... Possible Spoilers From what others have said, Kingdom is 300 years after War, and possibly close to 1- 2 thousand years before the events of the original. We see the 'feral' humans are similar to the original planet of the apes but there doesn't appear to be abundance of them, but it is implied at the end of kingdom that there are a surprising number of non feral humans still around and still capable of using human technology. I feel this trilogy, like the others, will explore the conflict that will inevitably arise with the Apes continuing to advance and the remaining intelligent humans being unable to accept that there is no way to 'reclaim' their world. The first trilogy did a good job of adding just enough nuance and twists to what would initially may come across as typical stories to make them interesting and I get the feeling after Kingdom that this trend will likely continue.

Is this the film theory guy with another name?

Kingdom takes it further in that there's remaining humans determined to take back the earth so does this lead to the nuclear war, the mutants and the desolation found in the first film from 68.......?

I was always wondering how the apes are also much larger than in real life?

I'd like to see an actual adaptation of the novel.

Rise, dawn, war, kingdom are first. And so far the 1968 movie is next at the moment. After that I never bothered to watch the others. The 68 movie was perfect.

kingdom hints at another war with the apes and nukes may be involved.

You didn't explained that 2300 thing. In Escape it's said that apes evolved and rebeled in year 2300.

2:14 Just say, "TIME TRIPPING"! It's so much simpler.

How old are you ? You made it out to be more complicated that what it actually was 😂 I figured the movie out when I was in HS

As a wise man, once said: OOH!

But how would kingdom of the planet of the apes connect to this timeline?

Armando didn’t rename Milo to Caesar Caesar named himself

“HOLY TOLEDO OHIO”

I grew up with reboot trilogy era

Escape isn’t a prequel. That’s like saying back to the future part 3 is a prequel.

the new movies don’t connect at all, two different (well 3 different timelines) this was entertaining but there’s no equation

I don’t think the modern prequel movies r connected to the original movies

Good try, a far shot better than most try's lol

Here’s the issue with saying humanity didn’t take themselves out with nukes, what the hell are the humans who mutated thanks to radiation. Like Battle shows that humans were on that path when they spent enough time near radiation, and it’s clear that this timeline was greatly accelerated. So it’s safe to assume if radiation caused this evolution in one timeline, and we have no clue what caused it in another, then the simplest answer would be saying radiation caused it as well. Like sure the guy who gives the info is a known liar, but the series never gives you a reason to doubt that idea. In fact it actually gives more evidence to support him than to disprove him.

Armando didn't name him Caeser he chose the name

You thought he Star Wars lore was complicated PFFFF look at this

My Connection of All Movies: Rise - The beginning of the timeline Dawn - Why Humans are dying War - Why humans are Dying losing Intelligence Kingdom - 300 years later Og - Charleton Heston Beneath - Death buuuuut Escape - Timeline reboot Conquest - Rebellion 2.0 Battle - Finally a good ending! oh no Mark Wahlburg - Humans and Apes again fall into w classes Tim Roth time travels back changes history a 3rd time and fuuu

9:19 they didn’t thru the same time warp. The detonation of the bomb is wat caused them to go bak in time.

Wow! 1972 movie Milo renamed himself Ceasar. Re-watch the movie. It was very ahead of its times. Get into the acting, see the imagination not the CGI.

This makes sense, shit.,

To be fair the new series of movies very well could end up having nukes. In kingdom we learn there is still human technology locked away and that there are still groups of intelligent humans. Humans launching a nuke is still a very possible event in future movies.

What if the reboot is the actual original timeline where Caesar was the original one who said no but years after his death. The new leader of the apes a ape called Aldo force the apes to change history to make him the one who really said no and that Cornelius and Zira if I spell Caesar mom name right only told the false history of what Aldo said was true and the virus was the one that supposedly killed cat and dogs was actually the viris that nearly killed the humans. You see they as in Disney, can say that this reboot is the real original timeline that is destroyed by one human. With the new time where another Caesar leads somehow get what the original Caesar wanted apes and humans to coexist. And they can then show a world where apes and humans live side by side in peace and harmony. Just saying a wild crazy theory and idea for Disney lol.

Wouldn’t humans eventually learn how to speak again?

I know you said you gonna be ignoring TV shows, comic books and stuff - But this is literally being delusional. "Death of the Planet of the Apes" is a novel that takes place during Beneath the Planet of the Apes from Zira and Cornelius perspective. They learn from Dr Zaius about the ape rebellion, specifically about Aldo's "No". Which they also mention in the court scene of "Escape From TPOFA". Obviously it's worth noting that the novel was released in 2018, but it's still canon.

Did you even watch the movies?? They confirmed that it was a nuclear holocaust in the original 5th movie.

i believe by the end in this new apes saga the humans will nuke the planet allowing for the original saga to still happen

Just admit it is a reboot or an alternate timeline or something! this is not the same universe 90's trilogy the trilogy we who are human do not speak of and the andy serkis trilogy

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I would include the live action TV show, but skip the cartoon

I disagree this. is a reboot. of the franchise. There are not connected. Remember, it was nuclear war in the original series.

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I’m confused, did they say the movies were all connected or is this just an internet people thing? Going way overboard as usual maybe? Idk. I can’t see logically at all how they’re all connected. Like period. I mean one would think there are millions of channels on KZfaq and these ideas conflict with others who like me are thinking uhm no. That mark walberg movie was a one off. So no right there.

You do realize that just because something takes place earlier in time than another movie it doesn't make it a prequel. The films from 2011 to 2024 are a rebooted new universe from the originals. The 2011 film is not a prequel and the 2024 film is not a reboot.