It means a lot my friend, thank you for the comment 🙏

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It won't work properly ... Shading problems will apear

You could, but it wouldn't conform to the contours of the original mesh. Not unless you manually placed each of the vertices alaong the z-axis.

LoopTools is not quite as accurate, unfortunately, but it is still an option if time is of the essence and the model does not have to be perfect.

I'm not sure if it's just me, but looptools feels worse in 2.8+@@Soulsphere001

huh i never noticed any accuracy problems, i mean have you set enough geometry? my circles are circles@@Soulsphere001 EDIT: okay if you want a circle that follows the curve, the edge loops trick we use though i see this as "acurate" as that's how something gets drilled, it was accurate for what i was doing

Yeah only issue with looptools on this curved surface is that it flattens the verticies in Z so you lose the correct contouring. You could project the verts after using looptools tho which would work quite well now that I think about it.

​​@@Ov3rTheTop there is a checkerbox you need to deselect. If you deselect "Flatten" in the looptools circle dropdown menu it keeps the original shape.

what is wrong with add->mesh->circle? you can set the verts there i can write all the python code, it doesn't increase productivity if you spend more time faffing with the code for something you can press a button for

packing that into an add-on seems like way more trouble than its worth

You are correct, making a hole like this will cause pinching. There are a few options to make good holes 1. is to first apply the subsurf before making the hole or 2. make a hidden shape correction mesh without the hole, which you use as a shrinkwrap target. You can use a vertex group to control the shrinkwrap modifiers influence on the visible mesh.

at 4:40 he has good edge loops, can't fault those.... maybe you mean where the tutorial finishes@@batman3698

@@batman3698 Do you have any tutorials with the second method? Because this is where I'm getting troubled all the time. My model looks smooth when I do the basic shape, but after the details are added like holes, cuts, etc, there is a lot of distrorsion and pinching. I've noticed that 3DS Max has something normal smoothing maps that fixes this problem but the only relevan I manged to find in Blender the the weighted normals modifier which sometimes fixes things but doesn't do perfect job. PS: I am referring to modelling without subdivision, like models for video games.

@@Greco1114 I dont have a tutorial on hand. But I can break it down. Method 2 is basically the non destructive version of method 1. In method one you apply the subsurf, and make the hole after. that way you have the full geometry there for when you make your hole. But the drawback is that its a destructive operation, and it takes alot of clean-up with the big number of loops. Method 2 is the non destructive approach. What you do is you copy your subsurfed mesh without the hole into a hidden collection. You can call it something like "guide mesh" On the visible original copy of the mesh you then add the hole. Add a shrinkwrap modifier *after* the subsurf modifier, targetting the guide mesh in the hidden collection. This way it will snap all the extra vertexes which are added by the subsurf modifier to the hidden mesh. Assign a vertex group to the shrinkwrap modifier where you set the weight to 1 in the areas where you want the mesh to follow the original shape, and 0 where you want the mesh to be independent. For example if you make a tube into or out of the hole, you would make the tube have a vertex group weight of 0. I usually use this for automotive 3d modelling, in order to get consistent reflections over different panels. I hope the explanation is good enough!

Using the circle tool will create a flat circle, not curved as it should be on a cylinder in this case. In most other cases however, that would work

ah flat vs curved circle i got ya... that said most of the time something like this has a hole in it, it's done with a drill so most real world shapes prob have a flat circle@@ArijanRace

​​@@ArijanRaceThey propably updated it since last year. There is a checkerbox in looptools. If you deselect "Flatten" it keeps the shape

At least it's unbuttoned

It's a messy render not smooth.

The loop tools 'circle' function creates a flat circle, which is not good for a curved surface. I have used loop tools in the previous tutorial mention in this video, they are good for that.

@@ArijanRace The loop tool creates only a flat circle if 'flatten' is checked. Otherwise the circle follows the shape. Just tried it out...

Yeah you're right, I'm gonna delete my channel now

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