How to Deal with Aggressive Fighters

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Blood and Iron HEMA

Blood and Iron HEMA

6 жыл бұрын

Aggression is highly valued in many martial arts, so how do you deal with it? In this video we deal with aggressive fighters with a Longsword, but expect more videos with different types of people, and different weapons!
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Swords used in video:
Julian - Black Horse Blades
Masked Assistant - Castille Mark V
Music:
Village Consort Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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@HEMASimian
@HEMASimian 6 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone! Reception so far is good and that's always a good feeling for us! This definitely will be a multi-part series, so if you want to see a particular archetype or weapon, please respond here and we'll stick it in the script list!
@Sebastian_Gecko
@Sebastian_Gecko 6 жыл бұрын
Pole weapons. I want pole weapons.
@HEMASimian
@HEMASimian 6 жыл бұрын
hahaha noted.
@aname4141
@aname4141 6 жыл бұрын
I hope you wouldn’t mind using the Rapier, especially showcasing Thibault techniques(I love Thibault and I don’t feel like he’s getting the attention he deserves)
@darekbaird
@darekbaird 6 жыл бұрын
About that part 1:25 I was wondering of those scenes in movies. The ones where the hero is forced down to one knee or some such position while the villain pounds down on them repeatedly (usually fueled by anger and not thinking straight). I was wondering how one might get out of this position or even manage to strike their opponent. Just a little scenario to think about.
@ninjaboyl4401
@ninjaboyl4401 6 жыл бұрын
Make a video on how to deal with a longsword while using daggers I'm a big dagger enthusiast
@bigtreecombatacademy2927
@bigtreecombatacademy2927 6 жыл бұрын
I’m a large aggressive fighter and compete a lot. I wouldn’t really recommend so many moves that involve backing up , ur playing into our hands unless ur lightening fast on the counter A far better option is to consistently threaten with the point , use stop thrusts and absetzen a lot and subtle footwork that constantly forces the aggressive fighter to reset
@Wolfenkuni
@Wolfenkuni 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. One big reason to be super aggressive is to make the opponent forget his "game plan" and react in the most simple way. I think it is one thing that would even work better in a real fight as in a tournament you are less likely to overreact.
@BigPuddin
@BigPuddin 4 жыл бұрын
@@Wolfenkuni Exactly. When being hyper aggressive, you're forcing your opponent to react. He's no longer appropriately responding. He's lost all control of the fight and is entirely on the defensive.
@TrickinNinja
@TrickinNinja 4 жыл бұрын
I thought this was exactly what he described at 2:18
@petritzky
@petritzky 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes completely stepping out of range works good against umbschlagen (as long as it's not a zwerch umbschlag). Because this oppens the agressive fighter for a nachreisen action. Second idea I had is just like you said. Absetzen. Catching the umbschlag and go for a thrust. The thrust will often not hit, but now you are perfectly set up for a nachschlag. Third is for very experienced fighters. Try taking the vor with a zwerch. But it is hard, you need to get your hands high otherwise the zwerch/umbschlag of your opponent is going to hit you. It will most certainly only work from your strong side. This is nothing that I came up with myself. Some is written in Lichtenauer sources regarding counters to oben abnehmen. Because that is what most agressive fighters will do against you, I thought I might list some options here.
@petritzky
@petritzky 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrickinNinja disengaging is great, but is not going to work if the agressive fighter goes for you and not your sword. If he goes for you absetzen is better. In the end it is true. You need to do everything to break their chain of thought.
@NotMeButAnother
@NotMeButAnother 6 жыл бұрын
Cucumber!
@BloodandIronHEMA
@BloodandIronHEMA 6 жыл бұрын
NotMeButAnother next solo drills weapon video confirmed
@seanellis264
@seanellis264 6 жыл бұрын
Right?!
@NotMeButAnother
@NotMeButAnother 6 жыл бұрын
We haven't done them, have we? Right. Cucumbers. How to defend yourself against a man armed with a cucumber. Now you, come at me with this cucumber. Catch! Now, it's quite simple to defend yourself against a man armed with a cucumber. First of all you force him to drop the cucumber; then, second, you eat the cucumber, thus disarming him. You have now rendered him 'elpless.
@BloodandIronHEMA
@BloodandIronHEMA 6 жыл бұрын
NotMeButAnother hey man after 192 videos we have to have some variety
@spinakker14
@spinakker14 6 жыл бұрын
Blood and Iron HEMA fine enough:)
@erikbailey2525
@erikbailey2525 6 жыл бұрын
WHO IS THAT MASKED MAN?!
@aurourus6894
@aurourus6894 6 жыл бұрын
I would say it's definitely one of the female members just by looking at the physique.
@mattmanbrownbro
@mattmanbrownbro 6 жыл бұрын
Aurourus definitely a female physique. 👍
@tonydowney106
@tonydowney106 6 жыл бұрын
Hmm now clue The best introduction it made me laugh
@howdoilogin
@howdoilogin 6 жыл бұрын
Someone who nobody cared who they were before they put on the mask.
@talerco
@talerco 6 жыл бұрын
Did Nicole get a tan?
@polyommata
@polyommata 6 жыл бұрын
Cucumber?
@aldor9357
@aldor9357 6 жыл бұрын
Cucumber
@Tyander
@Tyander 6 жыл бұрын
I also hate those people who just start hacking like a lumberjack and go full berserk.
@HEMASimian
@HEMASimian 6 жыл бұрын
Tyander there's definitely *many* archetypes of aggressive fighters, and this is a big one. The 2nd example would be applicable, but it's definitely something to talk about
@imapseudonym1403
@imapseudonym1403 10 ай бұрын
It sucks because many times, they win the match. Most people don't know how to deal with that kind of aggression.
@Daecard
@Daecard 6 жыл бұрын
did u... USE that cucumber? :D
@GobPalRosieVT
@GobPalRosieVT 6 жыл бұрын
The Fencing Luchador has been revealed...
@Miles_Action
@Miles_Action Жыл бұрын
I have trouble when it comes to getting hit. I fear pain and I panic when I get hit, it's like I don't know what I'm doing...
@mikeoxlong1395
@mikeoxlong1395 5 жыл бұрын
Mask... shackles... dungeon... a large cucumber on the table... oh my.
@jonmakar5646
@jonmakar5646 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent points! I find that I sometimes have trouble using footwork for situational positioning like this! Positioning is always integral in the manuscripts that I fence from, as it often determines who will obtain the more ideal outcome in an exchange (i.e. vor/ nach; stark/ schwach; distance/ measure; etc...)! Footwork used to obtain ideal positioning for certain techniques is referenced in most late medieval, and all the way to Victorian, manuscripts (at least as early as Codex Wallerstein and Glasgow Fechtbuch [Ringeck gloss], which are what I read the most for longsword - sorry I haven't read Fiore), and is something that should always be heeded when learning and perfecting techniques! Also, love the new and mysterious Masked Fighter!
@Vortex-vv6hw
@Vortex-vv6hw Жыл бұрын
"Stick em with the pointy end" ~ a wise man
@lt.branwulfram4794
@lt.branwulfram4794 4 жыл бұрын
May I present the Masked Assistant! Yeah, I got him on Craigslist.
@deanecrescent3782
@deanecrescent3782 2 жыл бұрын
For the longest time I thought he was saying "Jew and Juicy" at the beginning because of the captions lmao. Been wandering if improving countering was the best way to go but focusing on side stepping and foot work is soo much easier. Thanks Julian!
@grayblackhelm6468
@grayblackhelm6468 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe a video on types of aggressors? I think some of us would find that worth a watch.
@tsafa
@tsafa 5 жыл бұрын
Good vid
@josefroque5551
@josefroque5551 4 ай бұрын
When my partner and I duel We use one-handed short swords (approx 3 feet long.) He fights by aggressively swining his sword, and with how light they are. He can swing fast. I am mostly on the defensive due to how agressive he is. I mostly do rapier techniques like getting low to strike the legs, like meyer.
@Ajiu-gi3nm
@Ajiu-gi3nm 2 ай бұрын
so,I Think the core is to establish a new central line and get out of the way of his advancement
@tonydowney106
@tonydowney106 6 жыл бұрын
Wait why is there a cucumber 2:40
@darekbaird
@darekbaird 6 жыл бұрын
Hey don't judge ppl....it was wearing protection (JK)
@RealZeratul
@RealZeratul 2 жыл бұрын
In many of your more recent videos I have been wondering about the lower row of the medals behind you: Did one of you compete in a Bagua tournament in the name of Blood & Iron?
@cadethumann8605
@cadethumann8605 6 жыл бұрын
In my story, in the introduction fight, the inexperienced fighter thief charged towards my main protagonist at full speed. The protagonist simply parried the blow as he stepped to the side and let the thief pass by while hitting him on the back with his pommel and knocking the enemy down.
@youremybiggestfan
@youremybiggestfan 3 жыл бұрын
I love you dude. You made me wanna pursue fencing. Also you look just like my brother neckbeard and all.. no offense cus i have exactly the same growth patterns
@LurkerDaBerzerker
@LurkerDaBerzerker 6 жыл бұрын
This video is informative, and it appears my sides are now in Saturn's orbit.
@Wolfenkuni
@Wolfenkuni 5 жыл бұрын
My biggest advice vs an aggressive fighter is to stay calm and do your thing, Instead of being in panic mode.
@darekbaird
@darekbaird 6 жыл бұрын
You said masked opponent but I wasn't expecting Lucho Libre over there.
@poja82
@poja82 10 ай бұрын
That is a really weird cigar in the table.
@cardboardcat3083
@cardboardcat3083 5 жыл бұрын
Can you guys do a video on how to deal with people who fight like mindless peasants? I try to apply the proper techniques but it usually ends up in double kills. I find most success in retreating and waiting for an opening.
@favkisnexerade
@favkisnexerade 3 жыл бұрын
how to deal with passive opponents who just attack with fast strong attack when you're in range and that's it?
@aldor9357
@aldor9357 6 жыл бұрын
*OH YEAH*
@darekbaird
@darekbaird 6 жыл бұрын
No no...you gotta put the sunglasses on first then *OH YEAH*
@lokuzt
@lokuzt 6 жыл бұрын
Lucharaaán, de dos a tres caídas...
@MegaThibodaux
@MegaThibodaux 6 жыл бұрын
How do you handle aggressive attackers who decide to hit after the play has been called?
@BloodandIronHEMA
@BloodandIronHEMA 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Thibodaux just keep circling out and work on that withdraw. A big mistake a lot do is just stop and relax after they hit, when they should hit and immediately get out.
@imstupid880
@imstupid880 6 жыл бұрын
Can you cover aggressiveness from new people who don't have good attacks or blocks and keep wildly swinging?
@enoughofyourkoicarp
@enoughofyourkoicarp 6 жыл бұрын
Oh that's easy, here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aqqqlrJ03q6ooZc.html
@bigtreecombatacademy2927
@bigtreecombatacademy2927 6 жыл бұрын
Richie Demo absetzen
@petritzky
@petritzky 3 жыл бұрын
Nachreisen
@medieverse
@medieverse 6 жыл бұрын
OMG! You're going to shackle that guy and you have a cucumber on the table! WTF! LMAO
@mikeoxlong1395
@mikeoxlong1395 5 жыл бұрын
In the dungeon.
@bailey516
@bailey516 6 жыл бұрын
Nachooooooo!!
@imapseudonym1403
@imapseudonym1403 10 ай бұрын
Now find an opponent that is actually aggressive...
@caseydubois3645
@caseydubois3645 3 жыл бұрын
What the video is about: dealing with aggressive opponents in swordsmanship What everyone in the comments is talking about: *CuCuMbEr*
@farkasmactavish
@farkasmactavish Жыл бұрын
Can you explain the zucchini?
@zes3813
@zes3813 3 жыл бұрын
no such thign as howx or aggresix or not, do, can do any nmw and any s perfx
@Canal_Marte
@Canal_Marte 4 жыл бұрын
Only one word for aggressive fighters, NARSCHREISEN!
@DougsDiggers
@DougsDiggers 6 жыл бұрын
Bane?
@siestatime4638
@siestatime4638 6 жыл бұрын
The Masked Assistant has a pretty good tan for a Canadian 8-)
@Harradrush
@Harradrush 6 жыл бұрын
They probably had to order him from Mexico.
@mikeoxlong1395
@mikeoxlong1395 5 жыл бұрын
I too order my gimps from Mexico, decent quality for a low price.
@SeeThomasHowl
@SeeThomasHowl 3 жыл бұрын
What's the deal with the saran wrapped cucumber on the table!?
@ManoloElCerdo
@ManoloElCerdo 6 жыл бұрын
My God, the very first appearance of my waifu, I have to save this in favs
@j.d.4697
@j.d.4697 3 жыл бұрын
Being constantly aggressive just means being more predictable.
@ewalddroidworks
@ewalddroidworks 6 жыл бұрын
I dont know if I really want to know why there is a big ass cucumber on the table.....lol
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan 3 жыл бұрын
but... why... i mean cucumber !!!
@wilsonalves5502
@wilsonalves5502 6 жыл бұрын
Vcs poderiam fazer mais videos de combate e menos conversa, ngm ta nem ai pra lições, so queremos ver combates.
@Overdrive-19
@Overdrive-19 6 жыл бұрын
but how do i deal with an agressive pizza?
@andrewraslan5348
@andrewraslan5348 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Liechtenauer say, though, that he who displaces shall find no joy in the art, and to take the initiative and leave no breathing room for the opponent? Seize back the Vor if you're pushed into Nach instead of trying to defend and wait for an opening? I'm not denying the validity of your tactics but iirc Liechtenauer fencing literally focuses on exactly that kind of skilled aggression.
@petritzky
@petritzky 3 жыл бұрын
Mostly true. Kdf sources actually give you advice how to deal with people performing an umbschlag. Most agressive fighters do this, so that should work. Another thing would be ansetzen maybe. I wouldn't say that Lichtenauer tells you to avoid parrying. He just advises to do it in a different way.
@popsanddais
@popsanddais 2 жыл бұрын
*but why is there a cucumber on the desk*
@hermanleong1725
@hermanleong1725 6 жыл бұрын
Burpess Cucumber
@felix.der.ritter
@felix.der.ritter 4 жыл бұрын
only in HEMA the nerds are in good body shape
@shawngrau
@shawngrau Жыл бұрын
what´s the deal with the cucumber? XD
@TheCodarr
@TheCodarr 6 жыл бұрын
LOL holly shit
@rasendestroyer2701
@rasendestroyer2701 6 жыл бұрын
So in for honorish you say, if your opponent is a centurion be a kensei? Sound fine to me :D
@HEMASimian
@HEMASimian 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I haven't played in so long I don't even know what that means. Is Conqueror still a way of life?
@DarrenbyDesign
@DarrenbyDesign 6 жыл бұрын
Is no one gonna mention the Zucchini or Cucumber on the table?..
@pantheraleoromanus6241
@pantheraleoromanus6241 3 жыл бұрын
How to deal with an aggressive opponents is to wear shoes unlike what I have seen in your other videos.
@dizzt19
@dizzt19 6 жыл бұрын
Can a person ever avoid demonstrating techniques by being one step ahead? I still can't get over it, it feels staged and I end up thinking "you went 1, 2, 3 but the opponent only 1, 2 :/
@HEMASimian
@HEMASimian 6 жыл бұрын
ZaxProxy I get what you're saying. This was the masked assistant's first time so it'll get smoother and more natural. If you're referring to how I withdraw while striking while my opponent just sits there, then I'll point out that what I'm illustrating is that you should always withdraw while presenting threat. If in this video my assistant keeps going then I'm simply just stepping back and defend myself, which takes attention away from the primary technique since now there are two big actions. Fighting is messy for sure, and demonstrations are not, but that's the point is that they're supposed to clearly identify a concept. If you make it more realistic and it looks messy, then the initial point isn't as clear. :)
@dizzt19
@dizzt19 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you couldn't really show it otherwise. Then there are probably stages before and after that show various reactions and steps on both sides so in context it makes more sense. This isn't me ragging on a specific demonstration or person, more in general venting. I bet it makes more sense two sessions a week, week after week. :)
@HEMASimian
@HEMASimian 6 жыл бұрын
ZaxProxy For sure, it's definitely something to notice. The big problem with bad demonstrations is that if one person performs one or two actions before a strike is completed or control is gained while the other person just sits there. We try to make sure to make the opponent keeps things clear by not moving while they're being hit and/or controlled. Best of both worlds :)
@Pacu89
@Pacu89 6 жыл бұрын
How to defend yourself against the cartel's headsman
@jadekayak01
@jadekayak01 5 жыл бұрын
so why did you have a cucumber on the table
@rowangallagher4579
@rowangallagher4579 6 жыл бұрын
Random cucumber is great
@i_love_crpg
@i_love_crpg 6 жыл бұрын
What if hes drunk
@snowmanleblanc6053
@snowmanleblanc6053 6 жыл бұрын
이치고 call the police
@themightypaw3318
@themightypaw3318 5 жыл бұрын
Masked man is okay but lets talk about that cucumber on the table
@coywolf179
@coywolf179 11 ай бұрын
sick cucumber
@24sack
@24sack 6 жыл бұрын
What's up with the random cucomber Guys?
@BloodandIronHEMA
@BloodandIronHEMA 6 жыл бұрын
Lukas Simonsen we were feeling a little silly.
@BigPuddin
@BigPuddin 4 жыл бұрын
@@BloodandIronHEMA That cucumber went up somebody's noonerhole that day. Don't you lie to me.
@farnwang7431
@farnwang7431 4 жыл бұрын
why do you have a huge cucumber on the table ?
@brumalogresteer4124
@brumalogresteer4124 6 жыл бұрын
A plastic wrapped cucumber... Any thoughts?
@chaos_omega
@chaos_omega 6 жыл бұрын
How many masks can that guy fit on his head!?
@coltenlester9426
@coltenlester9426 4 жыл бұрын
Random cucumber?
@georgeshinas8375
@georgeshinas8375 4 жыл бұрын
i am sorry but closing in and wrestling at the sword is not "being aggressive". It's a fundamental part of historical sword fighting. A "double kill" has nothing to do about it. In a historical concept double kill was not an option, since all art had to do with self defense. What you most probably are doing, is approaching the subject through a competitive sports context (HEMA), and that's ok, but stll, has nothing to do with the real self defense system that these techniques and weapons were originally made to serve. With the functional, historical (whatever) art that was the subject of the past masters.Of course the past cannot be reenacted as it was but still, please, don't confuse fighting within a martial context with being aggressive or "bad sporting".
@petritzky
@petritzky 3 жыл бұрын
Double kills happened in history too. Especially later with rapiers. Agressive is a word we all understand differently It is highly subjective. If you have ever been a victim of a grapple in practice/tournament before, you will agree that it is an agressive act. I have been hit on the mask countless times and never had an issue. But I have been thrown and hurt my back. It is also agressive from a grapplers perspective. If you grapple you need to invade the opponents personal space, what I would count as an agressive action. You need to overcome yourself to do it. I would count grappling as agressive. Maybe you don't. That's fine. It is subjective after all.
@survivorprepper9218
@survivorprepper9218 6 жыл бұрын
Um, why was there a random gay cucumber on the table? Lol.
@numinorian
@numinorian 6 жыл бұрын
nice english cucumber.
@BloodandIronHEMA
@BloodandIronHEMA 6 жыл бұрын
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@TheSeanoops
@TheSeanoops 6 жыл бұрын
Rude
@AttilaSATAN
@AttilaSATAN 6 жыл бұрын
Cucumber?
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