How To Design A DIY Crossover Using Free Software | Live Crossover Design

  Рет қаралды 277,086

Kirby Meets Audio

Kirby Meets Audio

6 жыл бұрын

Live crossover design using free software.
👉 FREE Speaker Build Plans - bit.ly/FreeCubePlans
NEW WEBSITE || DOWNLOAD WORKSHEET - bit.ly/2JFzmw1
GET A KMA T-SHIRT - goo.gl/cc5lx9
KMA WEBSITE - kirbymeetsaudio.com
SUPPORT MY CHANNEL ON PATREON - goo.gl/cc5lx9
MY SPEAKERS - salvageaudio.com
INSTAGRAM - / kirbymeetsau. .
FACEBOOK - / kirbymeetsaudio
JOIN OUR DIY COMMUNITY - goo.gl/ARsDbo
----------
SPEAKER DESIGN SERIES
Step 1 | The Plan - • How To Design Your Own...
Step 2 | Driver Selection - • DIY Speaker Driver Sel...
Step 2.5 | Detailed Driver Selection - • Detailed DIY Speaker D...
Step 3 | Enclosure Design - • Easy DIY Speaker Enclo...
Step 4 | Intro To Crossover Design - • How To Design A Crosso...
FREE SOFTWARE
VituixCAD - kimmosaunisto.net/Software/So...
Recently Vituix released V2 of their software. I'm using V1 in this example.
SPEAKERS
Dayton Audio DS90-8 3” - bit.ly/DS90-8
Dayton Audio TCP115-8 4” - bit.ly/TCP115-8
Dayton Audio TD20F-4 - bit.ly/TD20F-4
CROSSOVER TUTORIALS
www.audioholics.com/loudspeak...
sound.whsites.net/lr-passive.htm
techtalk.parts-express.com/for...
www.diyaudioandvideo.com/
www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-...
----------
ALL YOU NEED TO GET STARTED
Drill - amzn.to/2641yxs
Circular Saw - amzn.to/23iuCfx
Speed Square - amzn.to/23ivhgQ
TOOLS
Router - amzn.to/23isnJh
Router Table - amzn.to/28NaaHE
Router Adj. - amzn.to/1UUvwuY
Chamfer Bit - amzn.to/1UUvV0w
Mortise Bit - amzn.to/1ZYQ3An
Table Saw - amzn.to/28NdP8o
Miter Saw - amzn.to/1ZYQfQ9
Cordless Drill - amzn.to/2641DRD
Orbital Sander - amzn.to/1UUyU9n
Finishing Sander - amzn.to/1ZYSjrk
Bar Clamps - amzn.to/28Neoz0
Soldering Iron - amzn.to/28NedUs
3” Forstner Bit - amzn.to/1ZYS8fz
Forstner Bit Set - amzn.to/1Upcayn
Measuring Tape - amzn.to/1UUxpb4
Push Stick Pack - amzn.to/1XwjV8U
Auto Center Punch - amzn.to/2643yG3
Digital Angle Gauge - amzn.to/28Nc0Zb
Combination Square - amzn.to/1XwkhN3
CAMERA GEAR
Camera - amzn.to/1W5Pci8
Wide Lens - amzn.to/28NeQ0j
50mm Lens - amzn.to/1W5PR35
Microphone - amzn.to/1ZYU9II
Big Tripod - amzn.to/1ZYUv23
Flexible Tripod - amzn.to/1UUAwzX
----------
If you have any questions, comment!
I invite you to be apart of this awesome community.
Thank you so much for watching!
-Kirby

Пікірлер: 421
@cartolla
@cartolla 6 жыл бұрын
I think I will never build a speaker in my life, but I still enjoy the videos! :P
@KirbyMeetsAudio
@KirbyMeetsAudio 6 жыл бұрын
This is great. Thanks so much for watching!
@Pototoes949
@Pototoes949 6 жыл бұрын
build 2 instead ; )
@cartolla
@cartolla 6 жыл бұрын
Austin Bauman hahaha ok :P
@jakemilitano2453
@jakemilitano2453 6 жыл бұрын
Eduardo same here
@TheCalebf
@TheCalebf 4 жыл бұрын
may never build a speaker but may still need to build a crossover
@swagonman
@swagonman 6 жыл бұрын
I like starting with a notch filter on the tweeter and an impedance compensator on the woofer. Then build the crossover on top of that. It enables the phase relationship between the woofer and tweeter to be more constant across the frequency range above and below the crossover frequency. In other words, the speaker drivers look more like resistors to the crossover network, so the crossover has a more predictable response. I’ve done this and then built 1st order high pass and low pass, which combined with the notch and z-compensation, acted as a 2nd order crossover quite nicely. Worked super well for my project. Anyway, just something you could try on the software pretty easily and see if you like it or not.
@KirbyMeetsAudio
@KirbyMeetsAudio 6 жыл бұрын
I will try this for sure. Thank you for sharing your experience! And thanks for watching
@swagonman
@swagonman 6 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. I enjoy ur whole channel. Keep ‘em coming!
@Bucefal76
@Bucefal76 5 жыл бұрын
Good approach. Instead notch filter for for tweeter you can use L pad, it also makes impedance more flatten and easy for filters. This is additional reason to do not use single resistor for tweeter before filter, but use L pad after (!) filter. To the filter see easy impedance.
@kennmossman8701
@kennmossman8701 5 жыл бұрын
WTF use a notch filter?
@scottcarlon6318
@scottcarlon6318 2 жыл бұрын
I tried looking notch filter and impedance compensator up on Parts Express and struck out, is there another name for these parts?
@tomgoffnett5624
@tomgoffnett5624 4 жыл бұрын
I got a lot out of it. You do a great job explaining things and keeping it real. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@nealehutson2009
@nealehutson2009 6 жыл бұрын
Love this series of videos. Yes I've gotten alot out of them thank you.
@eatdrinkwineguy
@eatdrinkwineguy 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to these videos. Great learning.
@zachariavallickad7264
@zachariavallickad7264 Жыл бұрын
You are a brilliant, knowledgeable, quirky, and extremely likeable audio expert. Respect, kid.
@derrickhaucke9909
@derrickhaucke9909 6 жыл бұрын
So I have built a few proven designs and a few of my own full range designs. After watching your videos I really want to try my hand at a full custom design. Keep up the great videos.
@onemandiy
@onemandiy 3 жыл бұрын
Great video series Kirby! I am learning a lot as I am getting ready to make my own build! I have forgotten so much!
@m.r.3128
@m.r.3128 4 жыл бұрын
Great minds think alike/fools never differ, unsure. Really appreciate the direction you're heading in man - word on the street is you're a very cool dude and this vid proves it. I've learned enough to know, I didn't know enough to know, I didn't know. ✌🏽
@whoisntwhoisit2126
@whoisntwhoisit2126 3 жыл бұрын
You could always make save points where you think you like the settings, just label the file after what you liked/disliked about it and then continue to work and make new file names. Lots of your own profiles! :)
@whozaskin3639
@whozaskin3639 5 жыл бұрын
Many studio monitors are 2 way speakers, and all this may be a reason. Of course then there is the driver itself, the way an enclosure alters it's response, and the room they go in. Speakers. Lots going on! Great video!
@midoyoyo3164
@midoyoyo3164 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much .. you made me seriously consider building my own speakers now ... i downloaded the software and started training on it ... made a couple of nice 2 way crossovers with dayton audio data sheets ( just for fun ) BTW about taking a photo for the nice spots during crossover designing then tweaking again ... you can click ctr-s to save your work then continue tweaking ,so if you want to go back to your nice spot you can return easily that worked for me just fine :)
@rroobbyy96
@rroobbyy96 6 жыл бұрын
This was super helpful, thanks kma!
@richardk.4131
@richardk.4131 3 жыл бұрын
The Vituix software demonstrated has changed dramatically since this video and seems much harder to use. Any chance of getting an update basic guide?
@Phanex
@Phanex 2 жыл бұрын
had the same problem XD i just dowloaded an older version 1.1 i think that worked.
@rezo786
@rezo786 2 ай бұрын
@@Phanex cannot find V 1.1
@didierleclerc66
@didierleclerc66 4 жыл бұрын
Very usefull video. Very well done. It will help me a lot when designing my future speakers. Back in the days we were just using calculators and books. Gonna be fun.
@DanielAwesomesauce
@DanielAwesomesauce 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very educational, informative video.
@JoelBursztyn
@JoelBursztyn 4 жыл бұрын
I liked very much your videos, I am building now speakers with DSP crossover, but my target is to replace it with analog. Your video showed me that I can do that easily when I will be ready for that. Thanks a lot. YOU R Great!!!
@eduardofreitas5562
@eduardofreitas5562 5 жыл бұрын
great class!!!! thank you
@kimmosto
@kimmosto 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Kirby! This is fun and relaxed addition to my "official" lessons with boring female machine voice by MS :) Video for version 2 with comprehensive off-axis responses 0-180 deg. in two planes could be helpful at this point because new version with free form schematic, OP amps and other parameterized library blocks has been available for few months now. Br, Kimmo, author of VituixCAD
@MatevzKrajnik
@MatevzKrajnik 5 жыл бұрын
I've learned so much! :D
@ianskinner1619
@ianskinner1619 5 жыл бұрын
this was a great video, i only wish you would have described the various lines , I eventually figured out the bold grey was the average sound for that build.
@JeffreyPar-pr2zw
@JeffreyPar-pr2zw 2 ай бұрын
I built a 4 way speaker system. Music is in 4 levels for bass for Body, low mid for Warmth, high mids for Presence, and tweeters for Brilliance. I have 8 ohm speakers, but the Marantz receiver must have 8 ohm impedance. 4 speakers at 8 ohm parallel would be 2 ohms and fry the receiver finals. So, 2 speakers in series is 16 ohm, and another set of two for 16 ohm, when paralleled equal 8 ohms. I put the woofer in series with the tweeter using capacitors and coils to get low frequencies to the 12 inch woofer and highs to the 3.5 inch tweeter. The other set is 8 inch low mid in series with a 5 inch for high mids. I have acoustic suspension cabinets. The sound I get from the speakers is crisp and natural. Orchestra music is the most difficult to replicate, and these speakers sound as close to being there as the $1000+ speaker systems will. Yes, there was a lot of engineering used to calculate everything, starting with free air resonance of each speaker.
@markbrislen8114
@markbrislen8114 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Kirby,Im a beginner and find that I really struggle with software - I purchased bass box pro,trueaudio and also have vituix which i cant seem to get started on especially when using OEM drivers But I would like to say how Excellent your videos are. You actually break things down and explain how they work for me who's no good with books this really means a lot.THANK YOU. PS Do you have any videos on using speaker cabinet software etc. Many thanks.Mark from UK
@SomeGuy-xq3kv
@SomeGuy-xq3kv Жыл бұрын
You are doing a great job, thank you.
@eduardoquintanaavila.6290
@eduardoquintanaavila.6290 2 ай бұрын
Hola. Hace como 20 años empecé a fabricar crossovers de 3 y 4 vías de 2o orden de manera manual, fabricando también los embobinados con las formulas Butterworth pero desde hace como 5 años empecé con las formulas Linkwitz par obtener una mejor respuesta pero lo que ahora veo con estos softwares me tienen realmente asombrado. Esto es una maravilla para mi. Gracias. Hello. About 20 years ago I started manufacturing 3 and 4-way 2nd order crossovers manually, also manufacturing the windings with the Butterworth formulas, but about 5 years ago I started with the Linkwitz formulas to obtain a better response, but what I now see with These softwares have really amazed me. This is a wonder for me. Thank you.
@ryry7886
@ryry7886 2 жыл бұрын
I love the FDR parameters. LOL Great dude.
@silviustro1
@silviustro1 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Kirby, Nice video! What would the final impedance of the speaker be? (what about if you had used a single 8ohm woofer and tweeter?)
@fxprocc
@fxprocc Жыл бұрын
Very very easy to follow, thank you
@mariusloubeeka5810
@mariusloubeeka5810 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Real time playing around and having fun with software! That's exactly how it looks like when I do it and is fun to watch. You did a good job in explaining. Unfortunately you forgot one thing and twisted a fact a little: 1) this software takes neither the baffle (step) nor the bass reflex enlosure into account. I asked Dayton Audio the other day how they measure their frequency response data. They replied that they mount all drivers onto an infinite baffle. A small baffle will change the responses and you lose the bass bump you liked. 2) As you say at 23:20 if you increase the value of the resistor you need a smaller cap but you need a bigger coil for the same frequency. But this is only true if the resistor is *after* the high pass. As you can see very clearly at 23:53 the position of the slope doesn't change if you change the resistor. If the resistor was between filter and driver the slope would move to left and right and also the steepness of the slope would change because crossover frequencies of coil and cap change in opposite directions. Some days ago I made a simulation of your project in BoxSim. You can find a perfect and a cheaper version here: drive.google.com/open?id=1amzvyOBJjfB1hwL_pCarYhKDwWbsJUV7 . The 1 inch chamfer/radius on baffle edges around the tweeter is very important in both versions for good balance at every angle. I think that is necessary if you're not sitting in the sweet spot which I would assume for casual listening.
@KirbyMeetsAudio
@KirbyMeetsAudio 6 жыл бұрын
Really great points Marius, thank you! I appreciate you taking the time to model this up. I'll for sure add the chamfer/radius to the front baffle. I think it'll be fun to compare our different crossovers when the speakers are finally built. Thank again for getting involved!
@mariusloubeeka5810
@mariusloubeeka5810 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply, Kirby! No problem! I model up about one project every week and last week I was curious what outcome I could achieve from your idea. BTW: I now added the enclosure simulation of AJHorn, which I imported into BoxSim, to my Google Drive (same link as above). It predicts -3 dB at 43 Hz in 3.5 litres. Because this driver is a little stubborn due to its high voice coil inductance I otherwise couldn't get the response in BoxSim to match AJHorn. AJHorn usually is at least 90% in correspondence with reality, so I trust it more than BoxSim.
@longbyrd2000
@longbyrd2000 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you do a DML build with exciters.
@jordanhart9708
@jordanhart9708 Жыл бұрын
This is great... So long as you can find the files you actually need to make it work. Without them, you're out of luck.
@johnleewright345
@johnleewright345 6 жыл бұрын
Love the videos. Long cast is to keep you from turning your wrist.
@belovedconsole
@belovedconsole 5 жыл бұрын
This was so great, but basically the software needs specific data from the manufacturer, right? And not all include that, so it will only work on some drivers?
@thereasonabletroll68
@thereasonabletroll68 5 жыл бұрын
woodstocks cup!! all or my cups are from wood stocks from my time drinking there at ucsb lol
@AllHandlesHaveBeenTaken
@AllHandlesHaveBeenTaken 6 ай бұрын
The snipping tool would also work temporarily to save work. Great video. Thanks!
@danbalkey2580
@danbalkey2580 2 жыл бұрын
This is great. Thanks for videos
@manylch7964
@manylch7964 4 ай бұрын
Really clear and helpful explanation
@ezramccollum9576
@ezramccollum9576 5 жыл бұрын
A true lifesaver
@mikelewis9414
@mikelewis9414 4 жыл бұрын
Where can you get spec files for drivers that aren't Dayton? No other manufacturers seem to have them.
@motodork
@motodork 3 жыл бұрын
You either have to create them yourself by conducting measurements of the drivers, or you use the built-in tool that lets you import the data from images of graph data
@Luke-qs2cg
@Luke-qs2cg 2 жыл бұрын
Trace the graphs given by the manufacturer, but neither are going to give you the best graphs to work with. Actually assembling the speaker, then measuring the drivers using dats will take into account the fact that they are now sitting Inside your actual speaker. Thats why professional crossover designers, don't start the crossover until the speaker design is complete. You gotta have a speaker to give them for them to give you the best results. Not just drivers.
@asymantix1611
@asymantix1611 2 жыл бұрын
wouldn't it have been cool if kirbert told us this? Thanks Moto
@dtrain8335
@dtrain8335 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and great software. After playing around with it for a little while it dawned on me that enclosure type and size can really change the frequency response of a driver pretty drastically so how should that be taken into consideration when designing a crossover? Is that kind of why you recommend tweaks after the speaker is built?
@bryanbassett2110
@bryanbassett2110 2 жыл бұрын
The way Kirby proposes to design the crossover is fundamentally flawed, because he suggests that you use the FRD/ZMA files for the drivers. Not only will the drivers you actually receive probably have a different response, they also will be placed in a box, as you mention. When you design a crossover, you really should take measurements with a measurement microphone of the drivers in the box before you start to design the crossover. If you just use the FRD/ZMA files, your speaker's frequency response will look almost nothing like the theoretical model.
@slominb
@slominb 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the help. Preferably where should our impedance peak or center be?
@motodork
@motodork 3 жыл бұрын
I downloaded VituixCAD 2, but none of the speaker data I loaded into it shows up on the SPL and Impedance graph. Also, the GUI looks quite a bit different now from what's in this video (this video highlights verion 1.1, which is somewhat older). If you go to the Vituix website, you won't find a download link for their older 1.1 version software. However, if you copy the download link to version 2, then replace "2" in the link with "11", it will download the older version 1.1. And now you can follow along with this tutorial much better. You're welcome.
@christofferherala4521
@christofferherala4521 Жыл бұрын
Had some trouble finding v1.1, Thanks!
@user-kn9ln5jw8v
@user-kn9ln5jw8v 6 ай бұрын
Pure genius. Had the same problem
@SyberPrepper
@SyberPrepper 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. In addition to your design process, I appreciate all the sources for software, parts, etc. Great idea to take snapshots during the design phase with the software. You could also do a Print screen and created a jpg of your settings. Also, Snagit is a great tool for taking screenshots. that would be my 1st choice for saving the screen.
@KirbyMeetsAudio
@KirbyMeetsAudio 6 жыл бұрын
Good ideas! Thanks for watching!
@GoonieGooGoo910
@GoonieGooGoo910 5 жыл бұрын
@@KirbyMeetsAudio I just "save as" something else, at regular points.
@A.X.N
@A.X.N 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kirby, love your vids! I have a question, how do you deal with woofer cone excursion going wild under the tuning frequency? I'm trying to use a high pass filter, and it works for the excursion but really limits the low frequency response of the woofer. The simulation with a DSA115-8 driver started with a 65hz F3 but with the high pass filter goes all the way up to 85hz... :(
@zaccomusic
@zaccomusic 4 жыл бұрын
amazing video hope you keep update :)
@Drunken_Hamster
@Drunken_Hamster 2 жыл бұрын
That dip in the mids at the 21 minute mark is, in my opinion, what a midrange speaker is for. Bandpass something like a 3.5 inch speaker from 300-500 to 3500hz or so and then don't choke the tweeter as much. Either that, or nix both it and the tweeter for a 2" or 2.5" widebander. Also the fewer the speakers, the more on axis they have to be.
@willmac5642
@willmac5642 6 жыл бұрын
Where to find zma files for drivers and tweeters? I find it hard to make these. Also I can't understand why only Dayton supply them, it wd be great if SB, Scan etc did this
@10WA
@10WA 5 жыл бұрын
When you get to a point your happy with save it. Then tweak more amd if you make it better save and replace or if you make it worse close without saving. Basically just make save points.
@kiweekeith
@kiweekeith 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a Stack .... I am an Old Bugger already .... :-) :-) :-) , a retired 'Engineer' and do a bit of Audio as a Hobby, Live Christchurch, New Zealand .... I must say that I Really Appreciate all your wonderful explanations .... I am about to build yet another 'Cabinet' pair .... Want to do a Front Ported TL with "Full Range 6.5" Audio Nirvana Ferrite Drivers". Might end up with a little 'Hybrid' TL / Tapered Horn design .... A bit of 'Thumb Sucking' on that one .... :-) :-) :-) I'll be doing a bit of a Binge Watch of your Great vidclips .... All the Very Best to You and Yours for 2021 .... Cheers from NZ
@BeckOfficial
@BeckOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
If you don't see any graphs it's because you need to go to the crossover tab and connect the generator (left side) to the driver(s)
@MrtPit
@MrtPit 6 жыл бұрын
I did industrial electronic in college and should took audio electronic. I really learn something this evening. Thanks you Kirby!
@KirbyMeetsAudio
@KirbyMeetsAudio 6 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Thanks for watching!
@bensonrecordings764
@bensonrecordings764 3 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot !
@karollepeto8924
@karollepeto8924 2 жыл бұрын
Great info 👍👌
@mikeables
@mikeables 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Kirby. When choosing speakers for a build, I see speakers I think look good. Then I consider my listening practices. Mostly soft volumes but sometimes I like to crank the Emotiva mono blocks loud. I have noticed that some of the tweeters I am interested in are rated rather low. Should I be concerned about choosing a bass and mid rated for 400 watts and a tweeter rated for 60? Will the crossover software tell me how many watts are going to each speaker? Will I just blow tweeters when I crank them?
@JonathanDFielding
@JonathanDFielding 4 жыл бұрын
The reason the frequency response of the woofer and teeter don't blend well is bc the teeter and woofer are 180 deg out of phase from each other. One trick to always check is invert the tweeter. Sometimes that help the transition band response to invert the tweeter. This applies to active fillers too.
@zoroluva
@zoroluva Жыл бұрын
I noticed this when looking at a GR Research upgrade kit for a Klipsch RP-600M. The tweeter terminal was inverted. That threw me all the way off! Thanks for this clarification.
@ledmk2
@ledmk2 6 жыл бұрын
Nice part
@stallion63m35
@stallion63m35 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Kirby! Can u upload a vid explaining nominal impedance and total impedance of 2 or 3 drivers connected to crossovers in a speaker box?
@flightharbinger7218
@flightharbinger7218 5 жыл бұрын
Question: noticed you didn’t check for the resistors, such as the 1.5ohm on the tweeter, as well as I assume the resistors the come with the inductors? Is the inductor and resistor 2 separate parts? Thanks so much! Learning a lot
@dennis9175
@dennis9175 6 жыл бұрын
Great video man, i'm going to build my first speaker with crossovers! would you recommend using a woofer and tweeter of the same brand? giving my price range i was thinking of buying the combination of: Peerless by Tymphany BC25SC06-04 1" Textile Dome Tweeter Dayton Audio RS125-4 5" Reference Woofer 4 Ohm Would like to hear your thoughts!
@scottcarlon6318
@scottcarlon6318 2 жыл бұрын
reading the ''manual'' it became crystal clear that this software is way over my head. I think the Birds in the 60's had a song about crossover software, it was titled ''eight miles high''. I think my only hope is hit and miss, I wish there was an online class I could take to help a non computer literate guy like me. If anyone has found a solution, please share.
@t1mm3h
@t1mm3h 5 жыл бұрын
instead of using your phone to grab pictures from the software, why not looking into using "Snipping Tool". It's a small utility built into Windows that do just this and it's really easy to use! Then you can save your settings right into the folders right away and is probably a little more streamlined than the phone approach.. ;)
@maxbombel877
@maxbombel877 5 жыл бұрын
Why not just save the project before going on with tweaking? And maybe add version numbers to the saved projects. This way you can simply load a previous version if your tweaks failed.
@vittoriosilva1454
@vittoriosilva1454 5 жыл бұрын
The resistor in series with the inductor is not an actual discreet component ... It is a virtual component that represents the dc resistance (R) of the inductor ...Gauge of wire determines the amount of power you can pass through it without burning it up ...
@robertparkphotography2451
@robertparkphotography2451 Жыл бұрын
You need to invert your tweeters phase with that xo alignment. That big hump and dip should have been your giveaway. You compensated with too much overlap but scrambled the phase and impulse response. The acoustic rolloffs are not going to be optimal. Good video on using the softwares features though.
@ioannismitras2794
@ioannismitras2794 6 жыл бұрын
Hey man,huge fan right here!Really loving this series!I ve been meaning to ask you,what would you do if you designed a reference monitor for mixing?In this example,would you add something to eliminate the bump in the low frequencies?Is that enough or am I missing something? Keep up the good work!!!
@KirbyMeetsAudio
@KirbyMeetsAudio 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my goal with reference monitors would be for the flattest response possible. I've never built reference monitor specific speaker before, so maybe someone else can chime in with other things to keep in mind. Thanks for watching!
@ioannismitras2794
@ioannismitras2794 6 жыл бұрын
Kirby Meets Audio Thank you for the response!I'll try looking more into it!
@attainableaudio7130
@attainableaudio7130 6 жыл бұрын
With this design, as he said he wants to keep the cost down... but if you can swing an extra $5-6 dollars per speakers in extra crossover components, you could have a flatter response and the off axis response in the crossover region would be much better. As for the hump in the low end, I guessing that once its in an enclosure it will disappear.
@bailey2517
@bailey2517 2 жыл бұрын
@@attainableaudio7130 Would you say that the mid bass area tends to decrease when the woofer is put in a box? And if so, is that only when inside a room or outside? What type of curve should i aim for if i want it to sound flat in a livingroom type area?
@FelixRisingOriginal
@FelixRisingOriginal 5 жыл бұрын
I always get caught up thinking about the phase response of each speaker. That must have a big impact at and around the cross-over point.
@martg.b.6160
@martg.b.6160 6 жыл бұрын
Ive been using the v2 version of the program. If I hit Ctrl+Z it undos the changes. You can also undo the changes in the optimizer, there is an undo button.
@nebuladus7850
@nebuladus7850 4 жыл бұрын
This great 👍👍
@thds4815
@thds4815 5 жыл бұрын
way more affordable for normal people : buy a car amp like pioneer mvh s410BT and use the integrated DSP which is absolutely usefull and works really well. You can also buy mtx coax speakers ! they are so well done , the tweeter goes lovely with the midwoofer ! the tweeter is so precised with his phase lens ! the frequency response is about 60-22000hz for those car door speakers but with passive radiators you can easely get 45hz ! You can get close to HI-FI with a setup like this if your ears are well trained
@burgie4241
@burgie4241 5 ай бұрын
you are truly a GEEK
@blake4u2
@blake4u2 6 жыл бұрын
Dude! Thank you! You helped with the light bulb going off! All my best Blake
@skipperay
@skipperay 2 жыл бұрын
Please do a reverse polarity config of the tweeter if there's a good dip. :) Learned it from Audio Judgement.
@Ramingo1983
@Ramingo1983 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you are making our life easier! Bye!
@KirbyMeetsAudio
@KirbyMeetsAudio 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Slane583
@Slane583 6 жыл бұрын
I'll have to fiddle about with this software. It would be great for making enhanced crossovers for my Minimus 7's without using someone else's design. So far the best I've done to them was upgrade the woofers and the capacitors for the tweeters. :)
@KirbyMeetsAudio
@KirbyMeetsAudio 6 жыл бұрын
Nice! If you've changed out the woofers, you'll probably hear an improvement with a crossover designed specifically for them. Thanks for watching!
@Slane583
@Slane583 6 жыл бұрын
They sounded great when I was listening to them but my stereo receiver is from the 70's. Being old it started acting up when I lasted used it. So I haven't used it for months. I need to take it apart and fix it but I'm a bit afraid of making it worse. I'd love to eventually upgrade and replace all of the capacitors & resistors in it. The woofers I used were Dayton Audio PC105-8's, so I'll have to see if I can get some bass out of them when I'm able to make crossovers. I mainly bought them because they were affordable, looked good, and fit the Minimus 7 boxes without mods. For having no bass they sound fabulous when paired with a subwoofer. :)
@logotrikes
@logotrikes 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant tutorial Kirby. Never realised this stuff was available. Need to bone up to get comfortable with the software so that I'm not fumbling in the dark with fingers crossed. I wonder if that's why I've always preferred full range drivers. Great stuff, most in-depth and potentially useful of your videos. Cheers from Australia. Martin
@CABohol
@CABohol 5 жыл бұрын
Nice
@TheDHaneyProject
@TheDHaneyProject 4 жыл бұрын
Subbed!
@wsip82
@wsip82 6 жыл бұрын
Yeeeeeeah!
@eliotsell7483
@eliotsell7483 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, Im trying to cross the Dayton ND16FA tweeter with the Dayton ND105-4 Midbass driver and the tweeter makes the grey combination line super crazy. I cant get the line to be nearly as smooth as in your example video. It looks like a lie detector test. Do you have any advice in this area? Should I worry about it?
@1pdigit
@1pdigit 6 жыл бұрын
You should check out Xsim, it's free and it's super stream line. It also allows you to save the XO's you build so no more phone pics! It's not good for beginners though, it doesn't build anything for you, like you can't input a XO freq and slope and go from there but I can tell you wouldn't have any trouble. Also, don't worry about importing the off axis responses, it just clutters the graph and you don't really use them to design the XO anyway.
@PS3RatBag98
@PS3RatBag98 6 жыл бұрын
1pdigit xsim is amazing, so easy to use
@KirbyMeetsAudio
@KirbyMeetsAudio 6 жыл бұрын
Xsim is great! I was using it before finding Vituix. I've been using this software more because of all the added tools. I haven't played with all of them yet, but I like having them in one program. It's also a little more helpful for new people. The off-axis actually only show up when clicked on, so they don't really clutter the graph too much. Thanks for watching!
@1pdigit
@1pdigit 6 жыл бұрын
Kirby Meets Audio Thanks for posting! This is a fun channel!
@kimmosto
@kimmosto 6 жыл бұрын
I would not advertise other tools here. XSim is a good program but really limited in many ways compared to VituixCAD package.
@1pdigit
@1pdigit 6 жыл бұрын
kimmosto- I'm not really advertising anything here, I just like the program and thought i'd share some info. That's the spirit of this channel, sharing info.
@brookskioschos6494
@brookskioschos6494 3 жыл бұрын
thx bro u just saved me a lot of money
@KirbyMeetsAudio
@KirbyMeetsAudio 3 жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@kavajamusic5411
@kavajamusic5411 5 жыл бұрын
Hi dude. I`m about to change comp. driver from 16 ohm (25watt), in 8 ohm(60watt). Can you tell me, what should i change in my crossover to make the new comp. driver sound well? Thanx.
@jefferyeng8615
@jefferyeng8615 Жыл бұрын
very helpful video . If you show me how to import from rew measurement to vituixcad will be greatful.
@geokrilov
@geokrilov 5 жыл бұрын
One can never make a loudspeaker using SPL and impedance graphs from datasheets and not obtaining them from real measurements of the drivers in the real cabinet. You also can't design a crossover simply by using CAD and not measuring the result and correcting it several times according to measurements and listening.
@somedude2492
@somedude2492 4 жыл бұрын
audio purist & elitist?
@IUsedToBeAPygmy
@IUsedToBeAPygmy 4 жыл бұрын
@@somedude2492 - no, someone with proper speaker building experience. He's absolutely right.
@TheEchelon
@TheEchelon 4 жыл бұрын
He literally mentions this at 1:50... You need to start somewhere and take it from there, that's what this is about. He mentioned that in other videos as well. Maybe you need to pay attention.
@attainableaudio7130
@attainableaudio7130 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Kirby have you ever used Xsim? it looks pretty powerful. I use speakerworkshop for all mine stuff, I have to have an old computer with an old version of windows to run it though. Can't wait for your building portion coming up!
@KirbyMeetsAudio
@KirbyMeetsAudio 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've used Xsim a bit. Vituix is very similar, especially V2, and adds a few other tools I enjoy. Thanks for watching!
@8bitbunny_VR
@8bitbunny_VR 6 жыл бұрын
Xsim doesnt have enclosure params aside from relative mounting depth sadly
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers 6 жыл бұрын
Ramon Schepers if you need a box design tool there is WinISD which is very popular.
@kimmosto
@kimmosto 6 жыл бұрын
VituixCAD has also enclosure and diffraction tools. That combination is far more versatile than WinISD and most of the other box simulators: Vituix is capable to generate directivity information for simulated driver+enclosure system.
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers 6 жыл бұрын
kimmosto not sure why you would want that from a box simulator. Maybe to do prelimary design checking. Otherwise it should be captured during measurements for XO design. In any case, Vituix looks very capable. Just was offering another option.
@jerrygamerhd7757
@jerrygamerhd7757 6 жыл бұрын
33 min yeeees💕
@KirbyMeetsAudio
@KirbyMeetsAudio 6 жыл бұрын
Haha yeahhh this ones a little long!
@jerrygamerhd7757
@jerrygamerhd7757 6 жыл бұрын
your videos can always be so long!
@beatliner1009
@beatliner1009 5 жыл бұрын
What about baffle step, phase matching, group delay, measurements? Unfortunately it's not that simple as You make it but nice video
@yeahitskimmel
@yeahitskimmel 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly states this is just an intro for diyers, pretty sure noone thinks they'll start a world-class speaker company off one KZfaq video. Building yourself a speaker to personally experience and enjoy can even be so much simpler than this. I've had fun making speakers from a paper plate and business cards
@leetharps579
@leetharps579 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeahitskimmel thank you for this. I'm always amazed when people with more advanced knowledge insist on critiquing DIY videos. It's a very basic intro to a topic. It sparked my interest and I will be seeking out more information and resources. Thanks @Kirby.
@sperdenv5871
@sperdenv5871 3 жыл бұрын
If you can't find the data of the woofer or tweeter just use the Omni calculator site, it's fast and easy to use. Only need frequency response and ohm rating.
@ChrisMoewesBystrom
@ChrisMoewesBystrom 6 жыл бұрын
Canned air under the cast helps with itch
@KirbyMeetsAudio
@KirbyMeetsAudio 6 жыл бұрын
OHHHHHH do I know it! My compressors been getting some work in. Thanks for watching!
@eeamm7087
@eeamm7087 3 жыл бұрын
This software is good for specific brands with datasheets, how about using a speaker taken from garage? The only data you will have is size and inductance. A good software should cover most of speakers.
@ryan8773
@ryan8773 Жыл бұрын
So, I bought a behringer ECM8000 compression balanced mic, zoom 22 interface. ive downloaded the crossover software VituixCAD2. i also have live-lite music making software what software do I use to measure the speaker output into the mic, into the software ? 20-20k with graph ?
@earljoshuapendang7232
@earljoshuapendang7232 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, I bought a speaker without frequency response data or graph but I want to use vituixcad for my crossover design. How can I measure the frequency response? Can you make a video about measuring or reading the frequency response of a speaker?
@johnbird3803
@johnbird3803 Жыл бұрын
Hi Kirby , does the free software used in your video work for Australian conditions eg ,,240volts, 10amps at 50hz
@kennyjfarquhar954
@kennyjfarquhar954 4 жыл бұрын
Does the software tell you how many “turns” for inductor building ? :) Amazing videos brother .
@whoisntwhoisit2126
@whoisntwhoisit2126 3 жыл бұрын
Doubt it would be to hard to implement, only math right? Heh
@edwinheesbeen8010
@edwinheesbeen8010 4 жыл бұрын
I realy enjoy you video's, and now i want to buld speakers miself. But i think i have a problem! I download VituixCAD, but Scanspeak do not have the files to add in the program. Is there a way arround it??
@jkreviea
@jkreviea 4 жыл бұрын
this is a cool video except for 1) the program UI has changed and 2) I want to be able to reverse-engineer a proaudio amp I have to change the internal crossovers.
@burgie4241
@burgie4241 2 жыл бұрын
Could the hump in the response on the low end be that baffle step response has not been taken into account? How do you know how wide the test baffle the woofer response files were taken on? If the woofer was mounted in say a 2ft x 2ft baffle, there would be very little baffle step response. Then when you mount it on a 6" wide baffle in the finished box, there would be significant roll off on the low end. Does the response files provided by Dayton specify the baffle width their tests are made on?
@flippy2332
@flippy2332 5 жыл бұрын
This is gold!! Thank you, going to go design now!
@Phanex
@Phanex 2 жыл бұрын
so hey guys im trying this crossover thing but im a little confused, i have 2 4 ohm tweeters and 2 4 ohm woofers. now what impedance do i enter in the wizzard thing? i have read that you have to get the impedance of a single driver and divide it by the amount of drivers, does that apply to this asswell?
@hanameltorres3181
@hanameltorres3181 5 жыл бұрын
keep making videos. So informative. God Bless you bro.
@AudiophileDIYer
@AudiophileDIYer 5 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of Xover design software or online calculator now, back in my day, I keep using 1/(2*pi*freq*r) for basic tweeter Xover and R/(2.Pi.Freq) for woofer, now I nearly forgot how to calculate without software....
Как бесплатно замутить iphone 15 pro max
00:59
ЖЕЛЕЗНЫЙ КОРОЛЬ
Рет қаралды 6 МЛН
DO Parts MATTER?
30:16
GR-Research
Рет қаралды 146 М.
How to Crack Software (Reverse Engineering)
16:16
Eric Parker
Рет қаралды 73 М.
Stop recommending Linkwitz Riley filters
13:40
Nathan Lively
Рет қаралды 22 М.
The BEST Port Video EVER
7:43
HexiBase
Рет қаралды 591 М.
--||-- How To Make Air Coil inductors --||--
13:47
Homemade Audio
Рет қаралды 49 М.
Design Crossovers for HiFi speakers using Xsim - Tips and Tricks
18:48
Toids DIY Audio
Рет қаралды 97 М.
How NOT to design a CROSSOVER
13:15
Audio Judgement
Рет қаралды 53 М.
Самые крутые игрушки
0:48
veloloh
Рет қаралды 2,1 МЛН
ГОНКИ НА САМОКАТАХ #олегкинли
0:19
ОЛЕГ КИНЛИ
Рет қаралды 1,9 МЛН