How To Design From Difficult Bitmaps for CNC Router Projects [Vcarve & Aspire]

How To Design From Difficult Bitmaps for CNC Router Projects [Vcarve & Aspire] - Garrett Fromme

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This Vectric Vcarve and Aspire video tutorial shows how to work with difficult bitmap tracing and design for your CNC router projects.
sometimes, bitmaps can be very challenging to design up into a workable design for your CNC router project. Especially when elements are crossing over each other. We will have an idea of how to design it. Then, as we look at it, we can see it will not be a practical way to approach the design.
this video walks through such a bitmap log. It is intended to give you the thought process. You will see how to rethink the project and take advantage of layers to set up your tool paths. It will also help with the order of operations.
This project requires some prep work on the wood and requires the use of Oramask. Planning ahead of time will help tremendously when you have challenging bitmap images to trace and transfer into workable CNC router projects.
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Пікірлер: 140

@garyschultz2030 Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Better than any other anywhere. Thanks Garrett! Please never quit!

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Gary, you are so welcome my friend.

@paramoose Жыл бұрын

Stuck through to the end! It's always a good learning experience to watch someone knowledgeable really have to go through problem solving. Hearing the solutions be reasoned out through logic as well as trial & error seem to make the lessons learned stick better in the memory verses a step-by-step how to lesson.

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Paramoose, keep working hard brother. Mistakes and mess ups are the best way to become a master at CNC.

@paramoose Жыл бұрын

@@IDCWoodcraft A man who never made a mistake is a man who never learned anything...- Quote from somebody famous & wise or really philosophical & published.

@dannymullins2610 Жыл бұрын

I'm shill hanging around. I'm learning something much from you I thank you.

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Danny, good to see you brother. Glad you learned something from this one.

@jacquielawson5256 2 жыл бұрын

You are the best teacher on CNC. What I get from your videos? - the time I spend sorting stuff is normal !!! The Nodes always get me .Thank you

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Jacquie, wow thank you so much! I'm always happy to help! It's totally normal to need time sorting everything! Keep up the good work!

@MrJumpmaster55 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Garrett, you never need to apologize for it being too long. Time flies while watching your videos! :)

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ray. Thanks for letting me know. Sometimes I worry, but not after this mention.

@woodbutcher3887 2 жыл бұрын

32 minutes in and still drinking my morning coffee. You do a good job at talking about what you are trying to do. Thanks.

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Larry. I enjoyed that coffee with you. thanks for hanging in there

@darrylpococke6401 Жыл бұрын

Wow!! Way above my pay grade!! LOL, Like you say Practice and more practice!! Fascinating really.

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Darryl, you can do it brother! You're exactly right my friend, practice and more practice!

@ca8920 Жыл бұрын

Still here., great work.

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Chris, thank you brother. Glad you liked this one.

@BeaulieuTodd Жыл бұрын

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the mother of all grinding sessions. Client: but it only took you two hours to fix the image. Garrett, and six years to learn how to do it.

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Yup

@buzzmay207 Жыл бұрын

You never cease to Amaze me , Thanks for your Expertise.🐝💤🤙

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Buzzmay207, thanks brother! I'm glad it was helpful!

@MikeSmith-to4yd 2 жыл бұрын

im still here great stuff

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for hanging around Mike.

@keithmarquart9567 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I stayed to the end. This video had my thinking wheels spinning at high speed. Best thing learned: Take time to think through the project before diving in, it will save you time. Thank-you for your diligence!!!

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Keith, you're so welcome! This motto has saved me countless lost hours, hopefully it will do the same for you my friend!

@RONHIBBERT-rz2cq Жыл бұрын

Love all the "extra" content because it's great. I am going through all you sessions before I buy anything and will be going through a second time after to better internalize as much as possible. Thanks for everything.

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Ron, you are so welcome my friend. Keep up the hard work!

@MrCLemoine 2 жыл бұрын

Perfect practical application video, I always watch them twice. Once I just enjoy seeing where we are going. The second time I do it with the video, so much fun to learn new stuff. Thank you Garrett!

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Chris. That is a good approach because the first time gives you an idea of how to approach. The second run through, you have the underdstanding while you're doing it.

@normanstreeter5206 11 ай бұрын

Yes, Garrett.I'm still hanging around. I can see that this isn't as easy as it looks. I'll probably watch this video a couple of times anyway. Many thanks.

@IDCWoodcraft 11 ай бұрын

Norman, thanks for sticking with me brother!

@tommyb1884 7 ай бұрын

Another great video that helps answer so many of the questions I have. Appreciate you sir.

@IDCWoodcraft 7 ай бұрын

TommyB, so glad to hear it brother.

@MattMadeIt123 2 жыл бұрын

Another video to save in my "CNC Tutorials" play list. I'm currently working on designing a new logo using some bitmaps I got off the internet. This will be very helpful. Thanks.

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Matt. Logos, huh. Are they for you or for others?

@rega3160 2 жыл бұрын

Garrett, you are a fantastic teacher. I enjoy your videos!

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Reg!!!!!

@maxgarcia9512 2 жыл бұрын

I'm still hanging around...Very good video...When you make these videos, I am working on my project and following along. I am really learning a lot. Thanks Garrett

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Max. I'm glad you're following along. That's how we get it into our minds.

@barneycarparts 9 ай бұрын

Great video Line smoothing and layers and Ora mask were my big 3 I learned a lot. Thanks. I'm looking forward to 3D modeling from a bit map next.

@IDCWoodcraft 9 ай бұрын

BarneyCarParts, I am happy to hear this one helped you my friend.

@tedkeyes8756 2 жыл бұрын

Garrett I can't thank you enough for the time and effort into helping me through this! Great video as always. I appreciate the way you explain and show how to get through some really difficult project. Again thanks. Your coffee should be there!!!

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ted. I got my coffee! Thank you!

@tedkeyes8756 2 жыл бұрын

@@IDCWoodcraft Well deserved!!!

@edwardhood4069 2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate you going through the whole process...enjoy the cups of coffee :)

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Edward for the coffee. And your welcome.

@ericbardell496 5 ай бұрын

hanging around, very interesting. Thanks

@IDCWoodcraft 5 ай бұрын

ericbardell496, you are so welcome my friend.

@cncprogrammer3265 2 жыл бұрын

I recently did a plaque where I merged a couple of images and engraved them. In order to make this work, I had to put vectors on different layers and trim and edit them. If I didn't do that I would have had cuts going where I didn't want. Then they asked if I could do that but with 3 different heights. One image standing above a surface and two below it. I had to use even more layers. That was the only way I saw how I could do that. I liked that curve to fit function. What a nice and handy time saver. On some noisy profiles, I sometimes had to spend a couple of hours going around, deleting and smoothing lots of bumps and divots. I may have done a few things here different than you did here, but you being somewhat more advanced than I am, I suspect at some point during doing it my way, I may have discovered why you took the approach you did. Another good and helpful video.

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

CNC, these types of projects are definitely thought provoking and there are many ways to approach. I like what you did here. I hope people read your comment and techniques you described.

@1070jake 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! Kind of made my head hurt! Lol Will certainty have to watch it at least a couple more times, but all the different concepts combined are excellent!

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Larry. you think your head hurt...? I'd been racking my brains on this for a month. At least I got something done with it. But thanks for hanging around.

@John-xm7yc 2 жыл бұрын

Haha! I will stick around for every video! Thank you for sharing these tips! This will help a lot of people with bitmaps and other wild nodes they encounter!

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hey John. For sure, it will help. Did it give you some insight on how to make your designs better?

@John-xm7yc 2 жыл бұрын

@@IDCWoodcraft absolutely! I wish I would have watched this before doing my first few sign designs!

@donalexander6534 2 жыл бұрын

This video is jam packed with good techniques and ways to solve issues. Some of the things you did in one or two steps, I have been able to do but in 4 or 5 steps and often with a less desirable result than you achieved. I have to try some of your node tricks tomorrow. Thanks for the excellent video.

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Don. It's funny how with some experience, it comes natural. Knowing that is not the case for those just starting out keeps me humbled. thank you for sharing this. Made me smile.

@paulbramhall9157 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant thank you learnt so much.

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Paul, you are so welcome my friend.

@williamcovell6324 2 жыл бұрын

More work than I can do at one time. So,, I will take a nap while you are on pause and continue later. I don't want to miss anything. Lots to absorb. Outstanding presentation 👏. Can't find a good 'jab' for you on this one.

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hey...Bill. Wake up. I'm done with this video now..

@williamcovell6324 2 жыл бұрын

@@IDCWoodcraft This is probably the most valuable video you've done in a while. Because of its complexity, it covers about 80% of issues CNCers will face AND SOLVE with this video. I take my hat 👒 off to you with this one! Oh! Wait! Was I dreaming?

@SuperBulegila 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, you put out some good content.

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Wesley.

@robertwillis4029 2 жыл бұрын

Good stuff!

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Robert, thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

@daviddickmeyer5231 Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed the mind game here. Especially the “corcle” layer. Actually, I could think of another way to mask out the circle for painting the swish. Use modeling clay to temporarily fill it in while painting. It comes out quite easily. Thanks Garrett, I’m still learning this stuff and it’s nice to pick your brain.

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

David, glad to hear this one helped you out brother!

@Petethechippy 2 жыл бұрын

excellent work young man

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Pete!

@patricklynott9870 2 жыл бұрын

lots of good node editing info!

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Patrick. Nodes...we can't live without them!

@EdHempstead Жыл бұрын

I'm hanging in....3 cups of coffee. LOL

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Ed, thanks for sticking around brother!

@mikehoufek216 Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Mike, thanks brother, appreciate you!

@dieterjaehn8886 2 жыл бұрын

Wow Garrett, you're bringing back memories from my digitizing past. Couple of things on my mind so give me your input. I used to auto trace a lot when I started, but after a while found it was easier to just draw the project from scratch tracing over the bit map. Too much noise to try and remove. Sometimes I would redraw it in Adobe in black and white if I needed to just so I would have a clean copy to digitize from. I looked at this like that. The only real complicated shape is the swoosh. Even though the circle was a bit broken, I would take artistic license at times and here think using the circle or arc tool, I see in the top left, would have drawn the pieces of the circle. The swoosh as it's own layer, like you, broken up into it's different pieces that overlap the dark circle or letters. Probably done that using a free form tool, just tracing the parts I want. (I saw you drawing your own lines). Then add the letters as text. I always imagined myself as the needle or in this case the bit, running the pattern the tool will make. It kept me from having the sewing head go all over the place because if I was running the path with my legs, I'd get tired. So I'd think to start with the swoosh first, bottom left to top right. Change bits and do the circle and the name, then leave the M for last... All depending on how to cut it. You've got my mind thinking efficiency. Thanks so much for these Garrett! It really gets me going. :)

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Dieter. This is one of those projects that could be approached in several ways. your's being one of them, for sure. Yes, efficiency is good when there are multiples. Honestly, I had looked at this for so long, I simply had to make a decision to do something and get it done.

@Magicmike12345 2 жыл бұрын

Hanging in there. Lol. Doing a great job. 👍

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for hanging around on this East. I figured I'd be alone by the end of this video.

@mikejackson3320 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I surprised myself by wondering why you didn’t do the modification to the swoosh initially. Great minds think alike. Good job as always.

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike. My brain was pretty fried on this project by the time I made the video. I was like "Just do something, Garrett!"

@rodneywright284 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this, forgot all about the ORAMASK, I have use it in laser engraving, I was having trouble with painting lol, I'm not a very good painter, I have to try this. Also good ideal about the trace bit feature using layers.

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Rodney. As far as painting, spray paint is a remarkable way to do it. Layers are so important when it comes to designing. How is your CNC'ing going so far?

@MrRdjhebs Жыл бұрын

I'm still hanging around & learning

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Robert, happy to have you here brother!

@MrRdjhebs Жыл бұрын

My CNC machine is scheduled to arrive soon. I have been using LIGHTBURN for a little bit over 1 year now & I'm getting ready for my next adventure in business

@marcfugere2927 Жыл бұрын

Merci!

@marcfugere2927 Жыл бұрын

This video is worth a lot more than a coffee 😊❤

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you Marc! Much appreciated my friend

@chrisobradovits408 2 жыл бұрын

Garrett, I would have done this with epoxy. It would have all the aspects at a minimal amount of time if the client approved of it of course.

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Chris, you're totally right! Epoxy would work great on this too and would be super simple!

@mbalars1 2 жыл бұрын

Still hunkering down with you.....

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Lots of info for you here Michael.

@normanstreeter5206 11 ай бұрын

Garrett. What would you think about doing a light texture in the areas of the Swish?

@IDCWoodcraft 11 ай бұрын

Norman, you absolutely could add texture. That would look awesome!

@ronc1231 Жыл бұрын

How about creating an offset around the circle, instead of the drawing and cutting? It would protect the circle and convey the swish, It's art.

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Ron, you could definitely do that too!

@jessjulian9458 2 жыл бұрын

Still here.

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Jess, thanks!

@rodcox9964 Жыл бұрын

I think you want to add an allowance on big m pocket so letter will fit in.

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Rod, very true brother. If I were to do it again, it would definitely be in an avenue like that.

@lippa618papalee4 6 ай бұрын

Still hanging in here

@IDCWoodcraft 5 ай бұрын

lippa618papalee4, happy to have you here brother!

@mikerainwater528 2 жыл бұрын

If you were to sequence the tool paths to profile the swish first, would the remaining mask be sufficient to then carve the circle, paint and move on? I’m thinking the overlap of the cross over, would be gray, but then the black of the circle would cover that. Am I thinking about that the right way? Thanks for the videos long, but I stuck with it as I want to keep improving.

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Mike. you know, this was one of the most difficult projects to shoot a video on because there were so many ways to tackle it. It's been a while so I'm going to have to say you are probably right.

@kennethsoderlind5578 Жыл бұрын

Nice video , I´m trying to make a XK8 Jaguar-emblem ex 8cm .This video might help me, I have Vcarve 11.5 Tack Kennet S from Sweden.

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Kenneth, right on brother! I am happy to hear this video helped you.

@kennethsoderlind5578 Жыл бұрын

@@IDCWoodcraft Hi It´s not working any well for me, I maked a bmp-picture of a Jaguar emblem 4 Liter, but I need to brake it apart so I can do it like you are doing it with your picture. It takes time. KS

@allenhuckabee3764 Жыл бұрын

Yup. Still hanging in there

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Allen, thanks for sticking around brother!

@FRAGAFE Жыл бұрын

still hanging around

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Good to see you FRAG!

@jimjennings1165 2 жыл бұрын

Im new to cnc ive been looking at your cnc can it do work in a production type work ?

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Jim. YEs it can. What specifically do you want to do?

@martyjosephson4937 10 ай бұрын

Still Here Garrett

@IDCWoodcraft 10 ай бұрын

MartyJoesphson, happy to have you here brother!

@darinbolvin3663 2 жыл бұрын

Would it be possible to also treat this as a stacked text file as an alternate possibility.

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Darin. I considered that. The fine bit requirement would make it not look good because the fine bits would not fit in the deeper areas.

@SteveSpears-xg6ze 2 күн бұрын

Garrett you sound so much like me

@marcbeaudoin5938 2 жыл бұрын

For the big M, wouldn't be easier to draw an M over the image instead of using the bit map?

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Ya' know Marc...that would have definitely been easier. Didn't think about that.

@KennethHall Жыл бұрын

Still here, I was wondering why not just cut the big M out and glue it to the rest of the Logo, instead of using a pocket? Seems like you could use a 1/2 in board for that and get the same effect. Perhaps I missed something and it was necessary to make the pocket. But I think it would simplify the design efforts a lot not having to be concerned with how the swish and circle went through or around the M. Just thinking.

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Very good point. That's why it helps to have more than one head in the game

@timvillwock8887 2 жыл бұрын

i am still here

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for hanging in there Tim. I know it was a long video. I hope you got something out of it.

@SuperBulegila 2 жыл бұрын

Still hanging around

@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Wesley. thanks for hanging in there!

@user-dy4yu9xp3v Жыл бұрын

I'm still hanging around

@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sticking with me brother!

@martyjosephson4937 10 ай бұрын

Do the swish first?

@IDCWoodcraft 10 ай бұрын

MartyJoesphson, that could definitely work. There are multiple ways to do a project brother! Whatever works best for you. I encourage you to try multiple ways.