How To Develop Spoken Fluency Through Reading | Extensive Reading Conversation 1/4 With Jared Turner

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Robin MacPherson

Robin MacPherson

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Many people think that the only way to develop spoken fluency in a foreign language is, well, to speak! But this is actually a huge misunderstanding, and it misses some of the most effective and enjoyable ways that you can build fluency!
This is episode 1/4 of a wonderful conversation series with Jared Turner about EXTENSIVE READING. Jared is the cofounder of Mandarin Companion - a graded reader publisher - and just a delightful chap!
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@MariaLaura-ly4tb
@MariaLaura-ly4tb 3 жыл бұрын
I am noticing how different polyglots have different priority mode, there is Steven Kaufmann that likes listening to a ton of content (and I am with him mostly), they have each a preference one for reading one for writing, I think it comes a lot to what you enjoy the most and you feel like suits you better!
@TheCompleteGuitarist
@TheCompleteGuitarist 3 жыл бұрын
Listen and read are the way we acquire, output comes through that input. Listening is initially easier, reading comes when you are ready and if you are a reader. Not everyone is a reader in their native tongue so no reason to presume they should find it easy or desireable when trying to acquire another language.
@shantinaturechild6385
@shantinaturechild6385 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCompleteGuitarist l believe languages need to be spoken to be memorized. The best is conversation with native speakers and ask questions if you don't understand. I have been speaking with a friend on the phone in Australia for 2 hours yesterday. I'm German and l live in France.
@ishish8816
@ishish8816 2 жыл бұрын
@@shantinaturechild6385 not necessarily, there are teachers with a very high knowledge of Latin and/ or Ancient Greek without being able to practice speaking. They could say a lot in those languages. A lot of vocab is not covered in everyday conversation. You could go 50 conversations with a native and not cover 50% of the vocab you can learn via books and forth. Besides to maintain a meaningful conversation you need to have a decent enough existing vocabulary. Otherwise half of it is spent with them having to explain what words they're using mean. and one can not possibly memorise all the new words you learn in conversation without writing them and reading them later.
@oswaldocaminos8431
@oswaldocaminos8431 2 жыл бұрын
@@shantinaturechild6385 I agree with you; this is the most realistic and ideal way to fix and memorize things. Greetings from the underground (am maybe the real world, 🤣🤣🤣)
@someoneelse6934
@someoneelse6934 Жыл бұрын
Each is pitching their product as the preferred way to learn. Obvious financially incentivized bias.
@lmusima3275
@lmusima3275 Жыл бұрын
When I started reading magazines in Italian, one of my Italian friends said “that’s too advanced for you” “yeah o know but it would help me with vocabulary.” Within a short period of time my knowledge of Italian increased. I not only read books 📚 but also watched online movies. I’m doing the same with German
@holmes3288
@holmes3288 9 ай бұрын
you should learn english again
@ABetterYouEm
@ABetterYouEm 3 жыл бұрын
I am loving the introverted learning videos recently!
@RobinMacPhersonFilms
@RobinMacPhersonFilms 3 жыл бұрын
hahah ISN'T IT GREAT!? 😄 ❤️
@ABetterYouEm
@ABetterYouEm 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobinMacPhersonFilms any excuse for not speaking to people suits me 😂😂😂
@AlinefromToulouse
@AlinefromToulouse 3 жыл бұрын
'Em', you are not alone...
@macicollins9873
@macicollins9873 3 жыл бұрын
girl same 😂
@Ellary_Rosewood
@Ellary_Rosewood 3 жыл бұрын
Introverted learning is the only learning I know. 😂
@garruksson
@garruksson 3 жыл бұрын
All of this rings so true, recently finished my first book in german and it was really special, especially since I had to look up a lot of words in the first chapters but then towards the end I just looked up less and less, can't get much more motivating than that.
@mariaclaracipriani6008
@mariaclaracipriani6008 3 жыл бұрын
garruksson me too I'm learning german. I' ve bought two or three normal books ( one is an american best seller translation). But the first pages are disconforting. I don't understand anything, unless I keep looking into a dictionary. Should I start with graded reading? But they are less interesting....
@garruksson
@garruksson 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariaclaracipriani6008 if you don't understand anything i think its better if u improve comprehension skills and try again in a few months but thats just my opinion. I mean reading should be fun but its not that fun if u dont understand. Its true too that graded readers are kinda lame so all in all its a bit of a dilemma.
@MandarinCompanion
@MandarinCompanion 3 жыл бұрын
@Maria Clara Cipriani , we talk a lot about this in the next couple of videos. Basically, if you are reading below 90% comprehension, about 1 in 10 unknown words, this is called reading pain. It's slow, difficult, and demotivating. I suggest you look for something easier or level up before you try again!
@chrissie1945
@chrissie1945 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariaclaracipriani6008 try finding magazines with subjects you like, gossip, history, music, whatever. You wont have as much content but it won't be as overwhelming as a book and when you feel comfortable with magazines, pull out the book. I find magazines online and if I find a word I dont understand i highlight it and translate it. So easy as apposed to pulling out a dictionary and flicking through pages, not that there is anything wrong with that. Good luck, you will have it soon. Oh and I have found slow speaking KZfaq videos in French and I put on the subtitles. So I'm listening and reading and repeating at the same time. So have a look for the German ones. You will be amazed how much you will pick up.
@tess7798
@tess7798 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariaclaracipriani6008 I'm also a German language learner. I have a favorite author that I've read in English. I took one of his books that I had already read in English, and bought it in German (kindle) and also an audio version (audible). There are a lot of German words I don't know, but because I know the story, I can listen to it while driving and understand almost everything. That might be worth a try?
@tanenbenkavod1519
@tanenbenkavod1519 Жыл бұрын
Reading requires concentration(alertness) and offers you to pause for a few seconds now and then ("gap effect" in learning process), and gives you some time to think about concepts in a new language. CONCENTRATION + TIME TO PROCESS Listening or having a conversation requires very little concentration, offers no pause for "gap effect" to take place, and offers tons of distraction which prevents effective learning. DISTRACTION, RELAXATION and NO TIME TO PROCESS new information I am really disappointed that I had to find this out for my self later in life. My school days would have been much more productive for the much less time investment. Just READ guys! IT is a gateway to perfect any language including your mother tongue.
@BiGreatGarraD
@BiGreatGarraD Жыл бұрын
Totally ✨
@cuivincent9744
@cuivincent9744 Жыл бұрын
Same feeling. Looking back my life when in school, I should say boy, pls read English with right sounds. I won't be so suffer when I am 30 or 40 in that case. But, at least we knew the recipe, doesn't it?
@sandzisonxumalo8685
@sandzisonxumalo8685 8 ай бұрын
You savvy what you are talking about! Why didn't u comment long time ago, 🙆‍♂️🙆‍♂️
@harinisri2962
@harinisri2962 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it amazing... Your bookshelf will be filled with novels in 8 different language.... 😍
@rebbecachunn
@rebbecachunn 3 жыл бұрын
I'm at 4 languages at the moment. It is satisfying and I feel special when my friends see me have a new book in a different language and they are in awe.
@sombhatta
@sombhatta 3 жыл бұрын
Quite correct. I did study in an English medium school (where all subjects are taught in English and that's the only language allowed in school) but that's not why I'm proficient. There are many EM students in India who have basic fluency but not proficiency. The latter came out of the very large number of books I read and still read on very diverse subjects. I can vouch for the method, but it presupposes at least intermediate awareness of the target language.
@amysteinback1918
@amysteinback1918 3 жыл бұрын
even better feeling that you start thinking in a foreign language !
@cinevivo
@cinevivo 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I've found this video. Let me share my experience. When I was living in the States I wanted to become perfect in English. When you start learning this language, there's always a misconception about how long it might take to master it or to become "bilingual". So as soon as I realized the complexities involved to really improve, I decided to start my own methodology just by reading out loud (this is very important), as long as you're looking up meaning and phonetics. I thought it would be a logical process that if I read out loud and I was doing it properly, my articulation muscles would be moving and so, this would be just as good as any conversation; if not better since you're doing all the talking! ;-) An so I decided to do at least 1 hour every day thinking it would take me a few months or a bit more to get to where I wanted. As it happened, it took me about four years until one day I was talking to someone on the street and the person remarked that I had a weird accent and asked me what part of the US I was from. I gave my self a mental thumbs up and knew that I was ready to stop doing this intensive / extensive reading. I guess I was doing extensive reading through my regular reading where I would read a lot of books about many different topics (not necessarily out loud). I even carried this tiny pocket dictionary that I would read on the subway. And my daily hour reading out loud + phonetics + meaning would be for me the intensive reading. One interesting part of the process is how as months go by, you have to underline and look up fewer words. Now I just do it for fun now and then. Cause it's become fun for me to read out loud and learn more words. By the way, I was already in my 30s at the time, which is not an age where you can become "bilingual" anymore, but if you are persistent and you really want to do it, you know: one hour every day and you will master any language you want! Practice makes perfect! Thanks for the video!
@Demondzeta
@Demondzeta Жыл бұрын
what do you mean that at 30 you can't become bilingual anymore???
@cinevivo
@cinevivo Жыл бұрын
@@Demondzeta You're right, William. I exaggerated a little bit when I said, "not an age where you can come "bilingual" anymore". It's just more difficult. The older you get, the harder it is. That doesn't mean it's impossible. But when I was doing it, it took me such a long time, that it looked to me like a quixotic feat. But, hey, if I could it, anyone can do it as well! I think I contradicted myself three sentences in a row. Thanks for the observation!
@Demondzeta
@Demondzeta Жыл бұрын
@@cinevivo i totally agree with you, learning becomes harder as you become older, but ii is not a matter of capabilities as it is of method and availability or even willingness to make the effort. Its just easier when you don't really know what are you going into, you have enthusiasm and time, and you believe yourself immortal and all powerful as we all did at our youth
@mayuri7077
@mayuri7077 Жыл бұрын
@@cinevivo I don't think that the older you get, the harder language learning is. It's just "different". Because, you see, when you are young you just don't know many words due to your short life, I mean you didn't have time to hear, speak, use and remember those words. And where you are learning a language, as a young person, those new words come to your head already in foreign language. That's why it seems that you are learning faster. On the other hand, when you are older you can understand more complicated concepts cause you have more experience
@donnawoodford6641
@donnawoodford6641 9 ай бұрын
I think you meant "fewer" words.
@maharlikanggwapo
@maharlikanggwapo Жыл бұрын
From now on I will start extensive reading on my target languages: Spanish and Portuguese. Thanks so much Lord Snow!
@chavarriacoto7775
@chavarriacoto7775 11 ай бұрын
cómo te fue?
@ethan9409
@ethan9409 10 ай бұрын
Bro you’re doing both at the same time?? Rip my boy, two languages that similar. How has it gone?
@jenny6904
@jenny6904 3 жыл бұрын
I feel that Robin really understands what it's like to be a busy language learner. He gets that most of us have jobs and families and helps to highlight strategies that can help us. It's not that I don't enjoy the typical polyglot videos - Tim Doner's method from about six years ago I think is how I'd like to learn if I didn't have to work - but Robin's videos just speak to me more closely than any others. So, so happy I stumbled across him.
@andreastoica278
@andreastoica278 3 жыл бұрын
This video makes me really happy, because it reminds me of my own experience learning English xD I greatly improved my English comprehension, speaking and writing ability by reading a lot of books. At the time, I did not know much about language learning, I just knew that I loved to read and that I wanted to read books that were only available in English, so that's what I did (specially novels, which I think are the best to get a vast amount of vocabulary)! I'm glad you're talking about this so more people will start trying it out♥️♥️ And Mandarin Companion is amazing! I've started reading some of their books and I'm just blown away by the quality and the care put into those books!
@MandarinCompanion
@MandarinCompanion 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Andrea! Extensive reading can be so powerful! Everyone would experience faster paths to proficiency if they were able to implement it in language study.
@cristinanavarro8103
@cristinanavarro8103 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, how i would love these dudes to be my neighbors so i could talk to them often.
@marianolancellotti3855
@marianolancellotti3855 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrea, I have a doubt... what happens if you don't know a word? What do you do or what do you recommend? Do you use a dictionary for each word that you don't know? Do you recommend to find out a novel for each level or start with any novel? Thanks in advance!!
@andreastoica278
@andreastoica278 3 жыл бұрын
@@marianolancellotti3855 Hello, Mariano! Well, you see, the first time I read an American novel (that was not a graded reader), I had already read the book in Spanish (my native tongue) a few weeks before, but I liked it so much that I decided to re-read in English. So that's definitely something that I recommend, starting with a book that you've already read; that way it will be easier to keep up with the story even if you don't understand every word! Another thing is that I was quite lucky because I started with a YA book (Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe) that had a lot of new vocabulary for me but that was also written in a quite "simple" manner, so the level was just challenging enough for me to feel excitement over being able to read a book in English, but not hard enough to feel discouraged (and it was a book that I loved, so double the gain). From then on, it's true that I picked novels a little randomly and struggled through the ones that were especially hard for me to comprehend, but I believe that it would have been better if I had abandoned the books that proved to be too challenging for me (we learn from our mistakes, I guess xD), so my advice would be to read the first two chapters or so and see if the level seems right for you! And when it comes to words I didn't know, it depends. I usually read books in my e-reader, so I had a dictionary integrated and consulting words was really easy, but sometimes I forced myself to try and understand the meaning by its context if the word was crucial in order to understand the sentence and, sometimes, I just ignored words that were there just to "enhance the beauty of the sentences" (adjectives, mainly), the same way I sometimes do when I read novels in Spanish, actually xD Another thing I've realized through reading books in different languages is the fact that a lot of the times, the same author will tend to use similar words (especially adjectives) in their works, so maybe sticking to an author whose works you like would be great to get enough repetition to the same terms. I hope that is of help! And if you have any other questions, I'll be glad to answer them!
@marianolancellotti3855
@marianolancellotti3855 3 жыл бұрын
​@@andreastoica278 Thank you very much! Qué envidia escribir todo eso en tan poco tiempo y en inglés! Si quisiera hacerlo, estaría una semana! I'm going to look for novels to download to my kindle and try again. Have a beautiful long weekend!
@kathysterndahl3134
@kathysterndahl3134 3 жыл бұрын
I just finished reading Harari’s Sapiens in Spanish. The great thing about doing it with a Kindle book is that it is so easy to pull up a definition (usually in the target language) for the words that you are unsure of. I’m looking forward to hearing more about this idea.
@jorgeromera3861
@jorgeromera3861 3 жыл бұрын
I'm finishing Harari's "21 Lessons for the 21st Century" in English (after reading "Sapiens" I felt so fascinated by his insights and his narrative that I read "Homo Deus". Mind blowing). Being able to grok Harari's ideas in a foreign language skyrockets the intellectual pleasure of reading.
@sergio315315
@sergio315315 Жыл бұрын
@Yassin Zao y
@RoboBreaker
@RoboBreaker Жыл бұрын
@@sergio315315 he's an antinatalist islamophobe globalist
@mauriciojaramillo3691
@mauriciojaramillo3691 3 жыл бұрын
Gracias. La lectura extensiva sirve mucho, los últimos 3 meses he estado leyendo 2 libros mensuales en inglés y he notado como aumentó mi comprensión del lenguaje al escuchar a otras personas.
@wlliamp4382
@wlliamp4382 3 жыл бұрын
Hola, Que libros me recomiendas?
@abrahamthesk948
@abrahamthesk948 3 жыл бұрын
Como leer puede mejorar tu pronunciacion si nunca has escuchado ciertas palabras que lees?
@mauriciojaramillo3691
@mauriciojaramillo3691 3 жыл бұрын
@@wlliamp4382 Mira, debes leer sobre los temas que a ti te interesen en este momento así mantienes el interés por la lectura, pero en cuanto a libros, yo te recomiendo los de crecimiento personal ya que son los que tienen el lenguaje mas sencillo. Te recomiendo. 1. Atomics Habits ( James Clear) 2. The Lenguist English. (Steve Kaufmann) 3. The mindset ( Carol Sweck).
@mauriciojaramillo3691
@mauriciojaramillo3691 3 жыл бұрын
​@@abrahamthesk948 En mi caso lo que yo he hecho es que leo el libro y voy escuchando el audio al mismo tiempo, así me doy cuenta de la pronunciación de ciertas palabras que hasta ese momento me eran desconocidas. Si quieres te puedes alternar entre leer un capitulo por tu cuenta y el siguiente los escuchas al mismo tiempo que vas siguiendo la lectura. Lo importante es que verás como el cerebro se va familiarizando a los nuevos sonidos, palabras y estructuras. Ahora, no es magia; Es simplemente que el cerebro va desarrollando nuevas redes neuronales al ir aprendiendo y por eso empieza a comprender el idioma sin necesidad de traducir mentalmente.
@wlliamp4382
@wlliamp4382 3 жыл бұрын
@@mauriciojaramillo3691 muchas gracias:D
@leojoyce7187
@leojoyce7187 3 жыл бұрын
such a underrated channel, years of solid content and only 11k subs? this guy should have atleast 200k
@paulwalther5237
@paulwalther5237 3 жыл бұрын
Reading your first book in a language is right there with having your first real conversation in a foreign language. It's pretty intense. Being old and having gone through this with several languages it's a lot less of a big deal but still gratifying. As you guys point out in the video this feeling of accomplishment is a great motivator for continuing your language studies in a way that doing SRS or Memrise or any app will not give you. I got started on extensive reading with German and continued it with French/Spanish but stopped at Japanese because the writing system was awful. I recently used LingQ to read my first book in Korean a few days ago and I'm a pretty happy language learner at the moment. I've decided to drop Anki for a while, at least six months, and just read on LingQ. Anyway, I love the topic so I'm looking forward to the other videos you put out on this.
@selenyimarta5551
@selenyimarta5551 Жыл бұрын
How do you decide which language will be the next what you study? What are your preferences?
@harperho9158
@harperho9158 Жыл бұрын
I started reading in English a year ago and it took so much conscious effort, but now I can read it almost as fast as when I’m reading in my native language. Our brains can just get used to everything so long as we train it every day. But in terms of whether reading has a big impact on my spoken English, I still can’t see many connections between them yet.
@austinlang6946
@austinlang6946 Жыл бұрын
I think reading just gives you a really strong passive vocabulary which is going to give you the ability to understand a wider base of the language. To get good at speaking you have to speak. But if you have all these words in your brain, the better you get at speaking suddenly you know have access to all those words.
@harperho9158
@harperho9158 Жыл бұрын
@@austinlang6946 That's very true, I completely agree with you.
@TheGrmany69
@TheGrmany69 Жыл бұрын
Reading is just massively important to attain that correct focus mindset to learn a language. It helped me improve my German, English and French understanding. Written texts open the mind and allow the brain to decodefy information without a dictionary, with little cues, and that, along writing is fundamental to develop the skill to form models on how the language works grammatically without a reference nor anything to limit your understanding and opinion on the language.
@shawnlewis9607
@shawnlewis9607 3 жыл бұрын
You've really turned me on to extensive reading and I'm enjoying it quite a bit. I love reading, anyway, so reading Spanish is really fun, which is a new experience for me. Thank you! An interesting thing I've found: my reading comprehension goes up quite a bit if I don't sound the words out in my head when I read them, because I'm not splitting my attention between comprehension of the meaning and pronunciation of the word. I just let my mind be quiet and it figures everything out for me (except if I have to look words up). But, after I've comprehended the bit I'm reading and reread it once or twice, then I will speak it out loud. I can see that I do better when I'm only focussing on one task at a time.
@carlospaulopaulo8855
@carlospaulopaulo8855 3 жыл бұрын
Don't be afraid of making mistakes! You can learn from the mistakes of others!
@victoriahasskerl7282
@victoriahasskerl7282 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much.... I am too old for intensive reading at 71 so extensive reading is really something that I look forward to doing. Happy I found your interview on easy German. Your approach to language is great and as my other old lady language learner said after viewing your video "He's easy on the eyes and intelligent" 👍
@rcc8347
@rcc8347 Жыл бұрын
Speaking from my own experience. Reading really improves speaking fluency. I personally do not enjoy reading and have not finished any book aside from the ones I read at school but reading in Italian helped me learn Italian very fast. The feeling is great when you’re able to read. I recommend reading out loud
@patfromamboy
@patfromamboy Жыл бұрын
How do understand what you read? I’ve been studying Portuguese for over 8 years now but I still can’t understand what I read without translating everything into English.
@rcc8347
@rcc8347 Жыл бұрын
@@patfromamboy it depends on what you read about. If you read about everyday regular stuff, you can understand even after about six months of dedicated study of the language
@patfromamboy
@patfromamboy Жыл бұрын
@@rcc8347 I’ve been studying for over 8 years now and I still can’t read. I have to translate everything into English to understand.
@patfromamboy
@patfromamboy Жыл бұрын
@@rcc8347 thanks for the help. I read things for my teachers and they say my pronunciation is great and they ask me what it means and I tell them that I don’t know because I haven’t translated it yet. The words don’t mean anything to me until I translate them, even the words that I know.
@rcc8347
@rcc8347 Жыл бұрын
@@patfromamboy it depends also on the individual. Age can also plays a major role. I was 19 when I moved to Italy
@aggiebattery8354
@aggiebattery8354 3 жыл бұрын
I want to see the rest of the videos now! Excellent start, Robin!
@pianoatthirty
@pianoatthirty 3 жыл бұрын
Great energy, both of you. Happy to have stumbled upon this video today. Thank you!
@carlospaulopaulo8855
@carlospaulopaulo8855 3 жыл бұрын
I'am from Brazil! I'am fifty- five years old! I have been learning english for seven years in private english school called CCAA! It's such pleasure to hear you speaking english!
@raquelgonzaque5031
@raquelgonzaque5031 3 жыл бұрын
Funny I wanted to learn Portuguese
@carlospaulopaulo8855
@carlospaulopaulo8855 3 жыл бұрын
Now I have finished my english course! I'm practicing my english on KZfaq!
@raquelgonzaque5031
@raquelgonzaque5031 3 жыл бұрын
It really helps to read a book and watch a show in the language you want to learn.
@carlospaulopaulo8855
@carlospaulopaulo8855 3 жыл бұрын
@@raquelgonzaque5031 Yes! I 'm in love with english! It's awsome!
@fernandafefe4323
@fernandafefe4323 3 жыл бұрын
A tip, when you make a video about language learning it would be interesting to put a subtitle even in the language in which it is spoken, because more people would access your videos and have much more subscribers because of it. It would be easy for us to translate the subtitle and absorb the precious tips you have for learning any language. It would greatly expand the range of your videos. The automatically generated subtitles are a fiasco. Thank you and congratulations for your video, I don't understand nothing but by the title it's nice.
@sarau2289
@sarau2289 3 жыл бұрын
There are subtitles in English, I think they are automated though
@fernandafefe4323
@fernandafefe4323 3 жыл бұрын
@@sarau2289 Yes there are, but they are not effective for learners, contains many mistakes😓
@viewercjg
@viewercjg 3 жыл бұрын
So GLAD I discovered your channel! I've dabbled in several languages in my time using various approaches and the one that I learned using your approach on my own as a high school student (French) feels the most solid to me.
@vonmikeore
@vonmikeore 3 жыл бұрын
I did a similar thing to learn German many years ago. I read crime novels in german. I went from low intermediate level to being very functional in 6 mos to a year.
@Jacob011
@Jacob011 Жыл бұрын
Did you read dumbed down versions or full on?
@vonmikeore
@vonmikeore Жыл бұрын
@@Jacob011 If you mean the books, they were ones I bought on sale tables at bookstores in Germany. that was many years ago. Later I ordered online, but they were the same books germans would be buying.
@ducklingscap897
@ducklingscap897 3 жыл бұрын
I think what made me really learn english was reading a lot of manga and books in english. (after I got the grammatical basics in school). I also learned how to speak through that. But my pronunciation is lacking so much that I am very self conscious about speaking and my listening abilities were also really low so I struggled to understand other people in conversations 😅
@wolfthequarrelsome504
@wolfthequarrelsome504 Жыл бұрын
Ahh.... Watch educational videos in the target language with subtitles.
@maggiemondo7459
@maggiemondo7459 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff. You have inspired me to go now and buy some Graded Readers in my target language. Many thanks for these insights.
@dreamingoffluency1519
@dreamingoffluency1519 3 жыл бұрын
Hey dudes, really interesting conversation. I have been thinking about shifting to a reading focus for my Arabic already, but this is really giving me a good push in that direction. Thanks!
@ElGo10x
@ElGo10x 3 жыл бұрын
Im a subscribed to Robin because provides a lot of "original IDEAS
@lukaszadriankowalczyk2747
@lukaszadriankowalczyk2747 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. While learning Russian, I started to write down in my notebook journal articles or parts of books, so that i combined writing and reading..I did like 3-4 pages per day, and improved massively within few months...and learnt also a lot of new stuff about different topics...
@callmejobson
@callmejobson 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I'm glad more people are talking about this! I really feel that sometimes people will become lost in "Studying Language" rather then learning and enjoying the language.
@MandarinCompanion
@MandarinCompanion 3 жыл бұрын
Amen! Preach it brother! We need more disciples out there!
@Sam-shushu
@Sam-shushu 3 жыл бұрын
I avoided this video series for a long time. Maybe because I didn't want to figure out how to fit reading into my language practice, since I already feel overwhelmed :). But I'm glad I finally got around to it. This is really useful information. I'm excited about it, and I'm gonna work on my schedule to try and implement it.
@julia84483
@julia84483 Жыл бұрын
Can I share a history that happened to me? I was being bullied in school by two boys, for 3 years I was in the same class that they were. When my class finally got separated from theirs I got really happy and relieved, it was a very good year. But at the end of this year a teacher said that she would mix my class with theirs. I got really nervous, started praying the rosary which is (4 times the prayer “Our father” and 50 times the prayer “Holy Mary”). I did that during vacation. And what happened was: the mix of the classes didn’t happen, they didn’t bullied me even on the hallways, the supervisor who didn’t allow the mixture had his Facebook profile a picture of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and I spent the vacation praying almost 50 Holy Mary’s per day. That’s my testimony, thanks for the ones who have read until this point!
@rafihandrian
@rafihandrian 3 жыл бұрын
this channel probably is the answers of my questions, looking forward to more of your contents
@IowaLanguages
@IowaLanguages 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Robin! I'm excited now to spend time on my graded readers!
@amalialee
@amalialee 3 жыл бұрын
I think I have to start reading more books from today. Thanks for sharing!
@gerbertmercado2849
@gerbertmercado2849 3 жыл бұрын
i needed to hear this. thank you so much! 😍😍😍
@learnindonesianwithchandra3637
@learnindonesianwithchandra3637 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for inviting the expert one n share knowledge to learn language
@Melantha711
@Melantha711 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible content! Looking forward to the next video!
@vikingsuperpowers
@vikingsuperpowers Жыл бұрын
Found you randomly but really glad I did! I started attempting to teach myself Icelandic since 1976, obviously I have given up and taken up many times over these many years. With the first lockdown in 2019 I committed to daily serious practice and have noticed quite an improvement. The grammar is quite a headache in this highly inflected language, and recently an Icelandic friend told me that reading a lot helped him 'get' English grammar and that I should read a lot of Icelandic. Sure enough, the grammar is beginning to feel natural and I pick up a book and am shocked that it just makes sense. Thanks for this terrific advice, I am excited to read heaps now! And to watch your further vids
@HonoreDeutsch
@HonoreDeutsch 3 жыл бұрын
Covid-19 made us try to learn alone. That technique of talking to your self has worked for me. Thanks for Introvert learning way.
@purplepansypatch
@purplepansypatch 3 жыл бұрын
I’m learning Kiswahili. I’ve learned some words, phrases, and grammar. I recently downloaded an audio Swahili Bible app read by a native speaker. I’ve started by listening to it subliminally. I’ve been able to recognize some words. After doing this, I plan to sit down with the text in front of me while audio is playing. This will be intermingled with other things I’m doing to learn the language; including what I’ve learned here today. Then I will take it to the next level of reading it myself both in my head and aloud. Thank you for sharing your experiences and advice. I found it very intriguing and helpful.
@bantuvoicemuchaikinuthia2536
@bantuvoicemuchaikinuthia2536 3 жыл бұрын
I'm native swahili (if there is such a language... haha..Will explain later) learning...(read speaking ) Chinese..Will be glad to help out on Swahili....I'm.kenyan....You can hit me up on..+254713262660.... Ooh.... Swahili is a language that Bantu and Arabic speakers formed .....So that they can ease trade.... So most probably you will find that we have other languages despite our lingua franca... But really,if you have Swahili.. you are really good to go.
@bassmannausaugsburg
@bassmannausaugsburg 3 ай бұрын
To truly master a language you must learn the grammar rules and that means writing above all
@RobinMacPhersonFilms
@RobinMacPhersonFilms 3 ай бұрын
My foreign language writing platform that I’ve been building for 6 years, Journaly, would be perfect for you then 😊 journaly.com ✨
@moideenbaba7187
@moideenbaba7187 3 жыл бұрын
you are amazing . I enjoyed watching your videos but I was late in finding your YT videos . It is worth watching really. thank you so much. Love you Robin.
@timstevenson7454
@timstevenson7454 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Just bought 4 of your books. Thanks for the info!
@moyga
@moyga 3 жыл бұрын
When I was 8 years old I was 1 year behind for reading in my native language. I went to a 3 month intensive reading course separate from normal school and during that time I read 200 books (for children, although the difficulty gradually increased) and after that I was 2-3 years ahead of my peers for reading. All throughout school after that I got very high marks for my English classes without having to try very hard. So It's very powerful for your native language too. I want to use this method for Japanese too but its much harder because of kanji and not already being conversational.
@lilyyu3301
@lilyyu3301 3 жыл бұрын
Wow . I love this video and Thank you so much for making this video. It will help my students a lot in learning Mandarin.
@dcrock8978
@dcrock8978 3 жыл бұрын
Great analogy at the end about the RAM and processing power. Great to put a face to the name of Mr Turner, love his podcast. Thanks for this!
@MandarinCompanion
@MandarinCompanion 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks LT Crock! I appreciate your support!
@ismayilarifoglu6226
@ismayilarifoglu6226 9 ай бұрын
Beautiful discourse. Thank you.
@solea59
@solea59 3 жыл бұрын
Great analogies Robin. They are very amusing and therefore very helpful.
@brownrowntown
@brownrowntown Жыл бұрын
Oh wow ... cool to "meet" the author of that series. It was SOOOOOO helpful in getting me to learn the characters. I remember when I finished my first book (My Teacher is an Alien ... or something like that) I was so proud!
@OneBreathStudio
@OneBreathStudio 3 жыл бұрын
Learned a new concept - automatic processing. Thanks for sharing this valuable information, your channel is so inspiring👏🏽
@RobinMacPhersonFilms
@RobinMacPhersonFilms 3 жыл бұрын
Yay I’m so glad that you are finding my channel to be inspiring and the information to be valuable! Thanks for the supportive and encouraging comment, @Saylor Lynn! 😊🙏🏼
@MrLibertyman777
@MrLibertyman777 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing!! Comprehensible Input showing up all over the place. I love it and it works!!
@MandarinCompanion
@MandarinCompanion 3 жыл бұрын
It does! Comprehensible input is at the core of extensive reading!
@skritterjake
@skritterjake 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to watch this video after work!
@sportstep9759
@sportstep9759 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the video!!!
@ilyashmyrin8977
@ilyashmyrin8977 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the motivation!
@anires1195
@anires1195 3 жыл бұрын
Great information. I need to read books more and ones on topics that interest me iny target language sounds good.
@hajiimpressions8113
@hajiimpressions8113 3 жыл бұрын
I finally found a Hindi graded reader, 'Reading Hindi: Notice to Intermediate', Kusum Knapczyk and Peter Knapczyk, is an excellent learning material!
@MandarinCompanion
@MandarinCompanion 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to know there are materials for Hindi learners!
@kiragillett8338
@kiragillett8338 2 жыл бұрын
IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR STUFF LIKE THIS THANK YOU
@nadaothman7580
@nadaothman7580 Жыл бұрын
I definitely agree with what he said about every one has his own way to make it work and my thing was imitating and shadowing native speakers ..before my target language was English and IAM so happy that I am listening to that video in English without subtitles at all and right now my target language is German and definitely i will try that intensive reading methodology .. thank you so much for your inspirational videos
@ernestoaranda5855
@ernestoaranda5855 3 жыл бұрын
What about listening to audiobooks while reading THAT book at the same time?
@Smilingsuns22
@Smilingsuns22 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what I do!!
@ifaaaifoo
@ifaaaifoo 3 жыл бұрын
That's my favorite method! 😁
@tess7798
@tess7798 3 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I do! But I do read it first in English so that I’m not looking up every other word in my target language (German).
@thomas-hj4wd
@thomas-hj4wd 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea!!!
@kaedreaming8341
@kaedreaming8341 3 жыл бұрын
@@tess7798 This is a really good idea!
@artemsindyakin1228
@artemsindyakin1228 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you, guys:-)
@victoroliveira2259
@victoroliveira2259 Жыл бұрын
The most incredible part of the video is reading a whole chapter in 4 minutes
@landlord5552
@landlord5552 Жыл бұрын
Read, listen, write...just ALL IN method is the best.
@budekins542
@budekins542 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating and important information in this video.
@mohammed96011
@mohammed96011 2 жыл бұрын
Robin has a great personality
@macicollins9873
@macicollins9873 3 жыл бұрын
loving ur videos just recently found you!! im attempting to independently learn Spanish and ur videos r really a amazing help !
@jazzy7958
@jazzy7958 3 жыл бұрын
Maci Collins I just started too, do you have any tips?
@macicollins9873
@macicollins9873 3 жыл бұрын
@@jazzy7958 tbh rn no, im really struggling 😔 i just try going over words and short sentences everyday
@danleyjessical
@danleyjessical 3 жыл бұрын
Not cool to make us wait a whole week for the next one!!! :) Great video!! Can't wait for more
@chiharukubo5178
@chiharukubo5178 3 жыл бұрын
This video is so great. Thumbs up × 100 times!
@waleskatorresdiaz
@waleskatorresdiaz 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your conversations!!
@johnlee1850
@johnlee1850 11 ай бұрын
This is so encouraging 🎉
@TwelfthRoot2
@TwelfthRoot2 3 жыл бұрын
17:30 I noticed this when studying Russian. I used to translate the sentence and then naturally I just stopped doing that. Now translating actually feels really slow and cumbersome compared to just reading it naturally.
@bell1990
@bell1990 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know of any russian books that are easy to read? I tried with Harry potter but it was too above my level. I am reading through a beginner book of short stories. But I get frustrated with the lack of depth to the stories its hard to get invested and stay interested
@TwelfthRoot2
@TwelfthRoot2 3 жыл бұрын
Bell there is an easy trilogy by Ketil Bjornstad about a group of high school pianists. The first book is called пианисты.
@jenot7164
@jenot7164 3 жыл бұрын
@@bell1990 I have the same problem. I read Winnie the Pooh (was fun at first, but it wasn’t much of a challenge for me), read Carlson on the roof (A bit harder, but the story was just too silly for me). Ultimately, I just settled on a Star Trek book from my mother’s library. It’s tough, I have to look up about 8 words or more per page, but the story is very enjoyable. Since you are at beginner level, maybe comic books are great. I read the first two gravity falls books in Russian. It’s really easy, but then again hardly any depth.
@fromanicfroncais1485
@fromanicfroncais1485 3 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone on Earth learn Russian I wonder )) life is too short guys 😂 I am Russian and I know it is not an easy language to master. Успехов вам, ребята
@TwelfthRoot2
@TwelfthRoot2 3 жыл бұрын
@@fromanicfroncais1485 I think challenging languages are fun. Since I already know spanish and a little french, learning a language like portugues or italian would feel very boring. However, Arabic (started this one a few months ago) is very exciting and challenging. Also, I'm learning russian because of rachmaninoff and some of my favorite pianists. So there is actually a good reason there :)
@M_SC
@M_SC 3 жыл бұрын
Hahah love the analogy at the end
@cmmndrblu
@cmmndrblu 2 жыл бұрын
What Rob is talking about at 15:14 is particular to Chinese for English speakers because it is so head-final- all of the modifiers come before the head noun and so you end up forgetting what you're reading until you get used to it.
@fromanicfroncais1485
@fromanicfroncais1485 3 жыл бұрын
I am learning Arabic. You know what helps for me? It is learning the texts by heart. Not just word by word but at least 90 %. I think it is almost the same as reading but a little bit better. Start with small text but then all these constructions stuck in your head and you change the words in the right way just intuitively
@imaprincess2740
@imaprincess2740 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work 💪 , and you will be fluent in Arabic since i'm Arabic
@camigauto5308
@camigauto5308 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, why I didn't know about this??? Im trying to be able to speak English, I can understand very well without subs, but I want to be able to talk with people in english, so I definitely start to implement this strategy. Thank you so much!! Send you a big hug from Argentina!!!💜
@hantor4
@hantor4 3 жыл бұрын
You can talk to me i will help you
@wolfthequarrelsome504
@wolfthequarrelsome504 Жыл бұрын
Reading French has probably improved my overall ability in the language over the last 8 months. Would it have equally improved if I had gone to classes for 8 months?
@miazborovancikova7430
@miazborovancikova7430 3 жыл бұрын
Can't walt for the next episode 🙂🙂🎧
@alobo_78
@alobo_78 3 жыл бұрын
Happy friday! aunque no respondas jejeje thank you so much for this amazing tips...
@justynak.6686
@justynak.6686 3 жыл бұрын
This video strongly reminds me of Massive Immersion Approach (MIA). Moreover Steve Kaufmann also on many occasions highlights the importance of reading in language learning process :)
@MandarinCompanion
@MandarinCompanion 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've talked to those guys doing the MIA. Basically, it's the same concept of extensive reading and comprehensible input in general. The trick is getting COMPREHENSIBLE input, not just any input.
@nicolasesquivel2265
@nicolasesquivel2265 3 жыл бұрын
This is just a reminder i was here just before robin became the gurú of lenguage learning jajajaja this is Gold!! Thnks Robin P,.D what a good interviewer!
@ruiseartalcorn
@ruiseartalcorn 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! :)
@ShaneGodliman
@ShaneGodliman 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome conversation! I'm really into reading at the moment with my Spanish so I feel like this has come at a perfect time for me, looking forward to the rest of the series!
@maxaugusto1958
@maxaugusto1958 3 жыл бұрын
Buena suerte leyendo tu libro en español, despues nos dices cual es
@ShaneGodliman
@ShaneGodliman 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxaugusto1958 gracias hombre, ahora estoy a punto de terminar de leer "La Nena" por Carmen Mola, la tercera entrega en la serie
@budekins542
@budekins542 Жыл бұрын
I confess I have been going on South American news websites, highlighting texts and translating them using "Deepl". It does help in seeing the patterns in the Spanish language.
@BryannaG
@BryannaG Жыл бұрын
I use Libby which connects to my library card. I got an audio book and ebook of the same book. It was tough at first but now that I'm 50% through the book, things are starting too make sense. I'm noticing similar phrases and picking up on vocab if it's repeated in the book
@Ed_Gein
@Ed_Gein Жыл бұрын
This is what i did and waiting for the first set to arrive. I think the hard cover was only available along with the audio book version. How specifically do you work through it? do you just keep reading? Stop to look up and note words you dont know? do you slow down the talking speed?
@acquirearabicbylistening
@acquirearabicbylistening Жыл бұрын
Amazing
@juliusjohnson5967
@juliusjohnson5967 3 жыл бұрын
I am reading your video in my target language via subtitles without the english volume on
@abdollahda8260
@abdollahda8260 3 жыл бұрын
I didnt start extensive reading method yet but as i experince it with my listening skills it will work. because when i start listeing Enlglish few years ego, I used to translated it in to my head and then undrestand it but now i dont need that translation, automaticly can undrstand it just like my native language.
@meghanscott3272
@meghanscott3272 3 жыл бұрын
So cool! What’s your native language?
@WingChunBoyz
@WingChunBoyz 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! I was hoping for Jared to crack some jokes. Lmao! 😂
@MandarinCompanion
@MandarinCompanion 3 жыл бұрын
Hang tight man! We've got 4 more episodes to roll through, expect some laughs to come 😁. And thanks for the review you wrote the other week!
@WingChunBoyz
@WingChunBoyz 3 жыл бұрын
Mandarin Companion holy macaroni! I am star strucked! 😳 you got my word, I will watch all 4! I just finished reading Just Friends and I plan to buy more Mandarin Companion books! Thanks so much, your podcasts are super duper helpful! Glad to help with the review. 😀
@fernandocortes1187
@fernandocortes1187 Жыл бұрын
5:00 Extensive reading had better results. 8:40 . 14:50 ¿CÓMO ES QUE LEYENDO TE PERMITE HABLAR? 17:04 automatic processing 17:50 it takes alot of comprehensible input to do it
@annaal7480
@annaal7480 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I did 40 years ago when moved to an English speaking country, just read whatever I could put my hands on.
@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587
@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587 3 жыл бұрын
But this is how I learnt English as my mother tongue as a child.... it's really interesting. I only know 1 language.
@gabrielgkabelen9824
@gabrielgkabelen9824 Жыл бұрын
like it so much Bro, hopefully you can happen to learn Bahasa Indonesia too.
@ibo5634
@ibo5634 3 жыл бұрын
10 thousand subs, yes, we can.
@PeppermintPat
@PeppermintPat 3 жыл бұрын
So glad KZfaq recommended your channel for me. Been stuck trying to learn Dutch in NL for 2 years now, but I live in an English bubble so it's hard to find motivation tbh, and often feel like I make progress, then I lose some of it because I don't get much opportunity to practice speaking. But I love to read, so I def want to try this. Looking fwd to the next vid in this series.
@zerothehero123
@zerothehero123 3 жыл бұрын
Dutch and English are sort of similar so shouldn't be too hard, although Dutch grammar has the reputation of being annoying. I recommend figuring out what you want from the language, like do you want to read and write correctly, or just listen and speak. What I've been doing for japanese is learning the core 2000 words. Then you know pretty much all the vocab you need, even after the 1000 core words! If you live in the country of the language you're learning then that's great for establishing regular speaking practice.
@Sk0lzky
@Sk0lzky Жыл бұрын
My problem with studies similar to what your guest mentions is that they're not actually proving anything due to the fact they don't control for active study time, not to mention measuring brain activity during study sessions (best measure of effort we have I'd argue). Any special method you can find online looks amazing because active engagement with studied material is so much higher, even if the method is worse than the standard course approach (honestly being worse than these is an achievement lol) Fortunately there are theoretical mechanistic reasons behind reading engaging texts (this part is crucial) and trying to take away as much of the content as possible which don't Fun fact: there are studies showing better focus and retention when reading on paper as compared to electronic devices, and then much better on small devices as opposed to large screen ones (I suspect it helps if it's a dedicated one as opposed to the same phone you use for texting and KZfaq due to contextualisation)
@femscorpt8127
@femscorpt8127 3 жыл бұрын
Die Vorschlägen sind sehr gut
@lugano1999
@lugano1999 Жыл бұрын
This works best for people who are primarily visual (about 65% of the adult human population). But not for people like me who are auditory (about 25% of the adult human population),
@Daniel-dl6cu
@Daniel-dl6cu 3 жыл бұрын
I love watching anime and reading subtitles in my target language!
@lightscameraaction1423
@lightscameraaction1423 3 жыл бұрын
That is a nice idea! Thank you ❤️
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