How to diamond polish mechanical switches | Polished MX Browns Sound Test
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Күн бұрынPLEASE SEE THE PINNED COMMENT FOR THE UPDATED METHOD
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Keebtalk thread: www.keebtalk.com/t/using-diam...
Diamond Polish: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
Waterpik: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08...
Timestamp:
00:00 overview and disclaimer
00:20 Where to learn more
00:27 Process
01:14 My thoughts
01:34 NO
01:41 Initial end goal and conclusion
02:07 Back to back
02:30 Lubed MX Browns
02:43 Polished MX Browns
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@TofuTypes Жыл бұрын
UPDATED METHOD TO POLISHING!!: - center press for 48 hours - polish on ONLY the legs and leaf (yes, even for tactiles) - sent off to lube goblin to clean and lube
@jessiequema2494 Жыл бұрын
Hey great fan. Why 48 hours? Is there a benefit by leaving them in the machine longer? Why center actuations only? Why polish only the legs and leaf? Why not include the rails? Appreciate the guidance.
@TofuTypes Жыл бұрын
@@jessiequema2494 -i tested 24-72 hours for polishing, marginal improvement from 48-72 (and also because my sanity from hearing the machines nonstop) - offset pressing for me provided no noticeable improvement to smoothness since the scratchyness comes from the leaf and leg contacts (some of my offset switches had a higher chance of damaged leaves and cooking the switch) - polish on legs and leaf only since 90% of the scratch is from these 2 components - rails don't provide a huge improvement, if any since the main contacts are the leaf and legs
@jessiequema2494 Жыл бұрын
@@TofuTypes appreciate it. Will be doing a batch of browns, might swap it with a long pole stem Geon Lavender stem, not sure if it is a good idea.
@kwcg5199 10 ай бұрын
For lubing do you need to lube them 1:1
@user-qu4eh8nu7c 5 ай бұрын
why only stem and leaf, I know its the part that the majority of the scratch comes from but would polishing the stem help with scratchiness too?
@akshayfr5761 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing the pain of diamond polishing, first detailed youtube video I've seen that actually shows the process. Keep up the great work :)
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
of course haha thank you thank you :)
@eggyolks2259 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this tutorial I got confused when reading the forum
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
ohh yeah the forum is a fucking novel to read LMAO
@seedo1648 2 жыл бұрын
your content is immaculate
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you 💙💙
@Legion.z 2 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial! They sound crispppp, the time to make them though 😂 dunno if I have it in me
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
it's a few hours give or take including the break in time, cleaning, and waiting for them to dry. This video itself took me about 3 or so? had to wait a full day for the bottom housings to dry :c
@geonfeetpic 8 ай бұрын
i've seen people straight up dip the stem in polish, only on the sides and them put it in the switch to get polished, they so to put enough to cover the entire surface of the stem but not too much
@keagan5379 2 жыл бұрын
I tried this a while back on an absolutely awful batch of retools and it made huge difference but oml the process was horrible since I had no break in machine or ultra sonic cleaner. Honestly, I’d just recommend to pay someone else to break them in for you or just embrace the scratch like a chad.
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
oh for sure LOL the amount of effort is absolutely insane :C
@fenderjbass6463 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you tofurypes very cool
@0Metatron Жыл бұрын
No sound difference is a good thing IMO, preserving the original clack whilst gaining smoothness is my ultimate goal with switch breaking in. I’m waiting for my DingKey machine and New Nixies for my first go.
@philipp594 Жыл бұрын
How did it go for you? How long did you run them?
@0Metatron Жыл бұрын
@@philipp594 Six hours (110,000 actuations) which is considered a light break in. I didn’t want to stress the contacts too much and I still wanted to preserve the MX Black satisfying crunch. And it worked out perfectly, Spring swapped to TX 65g Medium Deskeys films 205G2 and GPL 105 They feel amazing, it took a couple of weeks after lubing to really get the nice clack to come out but now they’re perfect for me.
@philipp594 Жыл бұрын
@@0Metatron Ty. You did 6h with polishing paste or without? Seems excessive for running paste.
@0Metatron Жыл бұрын
@@philipp594 without paste
@philipp594 Жыл бұрын
@@0Metatron Ah okay, so when they were clacky they were roughly at the 119k that thermingoat recommended. Thanks, good to know.
@grandeteddy 2 жыл бұрын
great video! which lubing station did u use in the video btw? looking for something similar that just holds housings primarily
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
that's the prevail key co one! Monstargear also has a similar one :)
@bli55555 2 жыл бұрын
hey man i was wondering if i can just solder any type of cable to the motor to powe the breakin machine, or do you have any recommended cable to use for thatt. thank youu!
@dexianwong2350 Жыл бұрын
do i need to remove the leaf on the bottom housing when cleaning?
@GlareStringth 5 ай бұрын
Diamond polishing the leaf causes it to oxidize but i dont know how it affects the smoothness
@HoangAnhNguyen-gy4tq 2 жыл бұрын
IMO, u should try other polishing paste (need to break-in for longer thou) for easier cleaning
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
the main one was the 0.5 micrion but i can try with other polishes too :P
@nickieboards 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you were required to keep the stems and housings together, like you do with normal break in? Does it not matter with diamond polish because it gets so smooth?
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s marginal once their polished? I tried mated and non mated parts and I found that there wasn’t a noticeable difference between them
@samsepiol3984 2 жыл бұрын
💎
@oreo1864 2 жыл бұрын
This looks sick, also what were the teal/black switches at around 1:50 ?
@JustinLuo-gw7sj 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like something with a carrot stem, maybe a black cherry pie with the carrot stem instead of the cream stem
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustinLuo-gw7sj right on the money, op black bottom, carrot stem and cherry tops
@AD-nq2nz Жыл бұрын
What micron diamond paste did you use?
@xanira6367 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm this is pretty different from what I do. i usually just put the paste on the stems, but i put a lot more on them. I usually break in the switches over 2-3 days manually(about 6 hours/day). Also i recommend using a vinegar/water mix for ultrasonic cleaning. I usually put in stems and top housings separate from the bottom housings, and have it running for around 2 hours 3 separate times, replacing the dirty water/vinegar mix every 2 hours
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah this is just my way of Diamond polishing, since it’s still relatively new (and has somewhat of a barrier to entry) figured I’d share my process and a very condensed version of the keebtalk thread. I’ve still messing around with just putting polish on stems and bottoms rails and experimenting with timing and cleaning. I found if you let them sit in water for about 40 min most of the polish kind of lifts off and you can rinse the rest off. I’ll try the vinegar sometime too :)
@xanira6367 2 жыл бұрын
@@TofuTypes 100% it's exciting to see more people doing this :)
@Zeraphor Жыл бұрын
Do you have a link to Julian's (?) goated video on diamond polished browns you mentioned?
@TofuTypes Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o9GUlMictZyumKs.html&ab_channel=julian
@ffffff1-mmmm 2 жыл бұрын
i have a cheap $30 ultrasonic cleaner for this that did a pretty decent job at removing the diamond polish paste. i used the same paste as you. i used denture tabs and dish soap to get the paste off. had to run the parts through maybe 3-4 cycles (7-9 minutes each) to get 95% of the paste off though, but it worked well for me. what did you try with the ultrasonic cleaner?
@CMLXMNDXv 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of cleaning liquid can we pour diamond polish in only and dunk the switches instead?
@ffffff1-mmmm 2 жыл бұрын
@@CMLXMNDXv what
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
@@ffffff1-mmmm my thoughts exactly... i used dish soap and water for the ultrasonic cleaner. It helped like clump the polish together which the waterpik made light work of, just slightly annoying haha
@TheCloudDart 2 жыл бұрын
Thought about polishing some mx blacks but I'll probably break them in, it seems like a pain. But great video !
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
you can probably get close by breaking in past like 500k? can't say for sure :3
@mintlata 2 жыл бұрын
@@TofuTypes worth a retry tbh I'm guessing you didnt leave them in the break-in machine long enough.
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
@@mintlata yeah I think the problem with mine was I didn’t break them in long enough in the offset machine, and I didn’t put any polish on the leaf 🤷♂️
@mintlata 2 жыл бұрын
@@TofuTypes I thought when you said you put diamond polish on the stem you also put them on the stem legs, guess you didn't?
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
@@mintlata i did but im guessing it might have moved around more than expected. the legs themselves weren't very polished
@resleeves5029 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Personally I cannot hear a difference, at least not a big one. I think diamond polish may be too fine for plasics. I was thinking of polishing switches using plastix which is meant for plastics.
@resleeves5029 2 жыл бұрын
Ive low-key polished a gmk set with plastix... Not worth it. Too time consuming and depressing.
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
@@resleeves5029 LMAO
@xentik 2 жыл бұрын
gud video
@GlareStringth 5 ай бұрын
What motor did u use for the center press machines because i know they’re dingkey break in machine and that the motor is different from the stock machine
@TofuTypes 5 ай бұрын
This is their first generation motor so I’m not too sure :c
@siegekeebs 2 жыл бұрын
while a break-in machine is great for the 'hands-off' aspect of it, there is a noticeable difference from using another method - putting about 20 switches on a board and rolling a tennis ball across it for 10 - 30 minutes. This does a much better job of actuating at different angles and the results is much better then actuation machines. There isn't much of a difference in doing longer than this time too. Personally, if you're going through this effort, this is the method I would use based on my research on the topic over using break-in machines which are too precise.
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
i think more so that helps with offset break ins, while the dingkeys doesn't offer that currently, i do have a 4x4 and 3x3 feng studio that offers offset break in Another thing i do is put the switches with he offset pieces on and just go to town with the massage gun LMAO Also works well ;)
@siegekeebs 2 жыл бұрын
@@TofuTypes That really seems like overkill to me and you're more likely to damage your switches! I think simpler might be better in this situation, but if you're happy with your solutions then it really doesn't matter. The offset break-ins also are usually limited because it's still either in one offset position, or one axis if it's dynamic, and still doesn't represent real use. Using a tennis ball is a super simple, cheap solution!
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
@@siegekeebs slightly haha just impatient xD I gingerly hit them with the massage gun haha
@chunkymilk1288 2 жыл бұрын
Donpark ball method!
@siegekeebs 2 жыл бұрын
@@chunkymilk1288 The man, the myth, the legend!
@davidchen8381 Жыл бұрын
Is it worth diamond polishing in comparison to just normally breaking in the switches?
@TofuTypes Жыл бұрын
That’s up to you, personally I like Diamond polished
@xpulsel4760 Жыл бұрын
Thoughts on polishing Zaku pies?
@TofuTypes Жыл бұрын
Absolutely not worth the time and effort
@nicholashadweh5710 2 жыл бұрын
is there no link for the break in machines?
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
dingkeys sells the center break in (and offset now in batches) and fengstudio sells them as well
@chjmbeo118 2 жыл бұрын
cherry bờ nâu linear top 1 thị trường
@jouseff_1293 2 жыл бұрын
gmk masterpiece is one of IF not my favorite gmk set
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
absolutely clean set ;)
@jouseff_1293 2 жыл бұрын
@@TofuTypes can I ask where and when did you get it? XD, dont worry, wont ask you to sell yours lol, I have gmk katakana wob, kinda similar, but the katakana mods are really cool
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
@@jouseff_1293 Ibought it from switchkeys like about 2 weeks ago :3 managed to snag extras
@benji2737 2 жыл бұрын
where can I buy a break in machine?
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
Ding keys offers them as well as feng studio
@sviz 2 жыл бұрын
diamond polished keycaps when
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO bet
@lorenzospina7712 Жыл бұрын
Hey what lubing station is that?
@TofuTypes Жыл бұрын
it was from prevail key :/
@Microck 2 жыл бұрын
hey, what lubing station do u use? :)
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the big one from prevail :)
@Microck 2 жыл бұрын
@@TofuTypes thank you owo
@AnzelLmao 2 жыл бұрын
i've always been tempted to try but holy shit i'm so lazy LOL
@akshayfr5761 2 жыл бұрын
it's hell I had to go through doing 180 mx blacks. results are very good but tbh I'd just stick with breaking in
@AnzelLmao 2 жыл бұрын
@@akshayfr5761 bro i dont even wanna break in switches LMAO
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
@@AnzelLmao LOL just leave em in and forget em xD
@zwitts677 2 жыл бұрын
damn you made a linear switch (ngl the lubed one sounds better to me lol)
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
it's still very tactile LOL same tactility just smoother all around :3
@philipp594 Жыл бұрын
Did you experiment more? What are your learnings?
@TofuTypes Жыл бұрын
I did! Found a more time efficient version: - applying paste to the legs and leaf only and breaking in for 24-48 hours works better than individually lubing the entire switch
@philipp594 Жыл бұрын
@@TofuTypes Thanks, no paste on the sliders?
@TofuTypes Жыл бұрын
@@philipp594 it rarely touches it, so no point
@philipp594 Жыл бұрын
@@TofuTypes Great help, thank you
@philipp594 Жыл бұрын
@@TofuTypes I couldn't believe it so I quickly polished the sliders of a gateron yellow stem on a honing strop with 0.5 micron compound and switched it into new nixies and tried side by side (dry). I couldn't really tell a difference is smoothness. But the audable scratch is reduced quite a bit. But some of it is remaining (from the sliders).
@nikocayetano1805 2 жыл бұрын
Now that you polished them how much for me to take them off your hands 🙏🙏
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO they're like okay at best if you want them xD
@nikocayetano1805 2 жыл бұрын
@@TofuTypes im down to try new switches to be honest.
@brocky 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, definitely not going to try this. It does sound better imo. It has a slightly higher pitch and sounds smoother.
@user-sn6mr8cx5g 2 жыл бұрын
I think the mistake is that u have mixed stems and housings
@user-qu4eh8nu7c 5 ай бұрын
keeping the stems and housing together would be horrible since it would make the already tedious cleaning process longer
@gooberlaya 2 жыл бұрын
first?
@videlov 2 жыл бұрын
why the effort? you absolutely adore MX browns and it must be it, because there is no other tactile switch on the market ? I don't get it...
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
i was breaking in browns anyway and I wanted to get close to julian's polished browns sound so figured if I'm going to embark on this experiment might as well try to film it LOL
@justanotherpxrson 2 жыл бұрын
yikes... nope. too far.
@TofuTypes 2 жыл бұрын
LOL everyday we stray further from god
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