How to "do" Dave Gorman.............'s crossword

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How to "do" Dave Gorman.............'s crossword

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3 жыл бұрын

Here is a bonus video on how to solve yesterday's cryptic crossword in The Independent by the comedian Dave Gorman. This puzzle has a HIDDEN THEME... which might be tricky for overseas viewers but it's still finadable with a little help from Google. Good luck! You can play it here:
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@fredhollows3180 3 жыл бұрын

*Simon does some black magic* “Not perhaps the most straightforward clue.”

@undergroundmonorail 3 жыл бұрын

*says something absolutely buck wild* "Maybe I should have got that more quickly."

@kalvinlyle 3 жыл бұрын

What is happening? Getting words from these clues is pure wizardry!

@Fitz2905 3 жыл бұрын

And he's so fast. I feel like 100 times smarter and yet dumber after watching these videos

@whereisawesomeness 2 жыл бұрын

It feels like this comment is a clue, perhaps I’m going insane

@undergroundmonorail 3 жыл бұрын

These cryptic crosswords always feel like motivated reasoning to someone who's never done them but it always works out so I guess they know what they're doing :P

@fredhollows3180 3 жыл бұрын

Deoxidate meaning to reduce is from chemistry, to do with atomic charge.

@lukeigh6948 3 жыл бұрын

OIL RIG

@fredhollows3180 3 жыл бұрын

@@lukeigh6948 YES!! :D

@arifleischer8285 3 жыл бұрын

What clue?

@fredhollows3180 3 жыл бұрын

@@arifleischer8285 26:44 It is 31 across.

@amoswittenbergsmusings 3 жыл бұрын

Pure joy, Simon, pure joy. In The Netherlands I used to do cryptics but in Dutch they work very differently, with heavy emphasis on very clever cryptic definitions. The language lends itself much less to wordplay than English. Since living in Albion I do the Telegraph back page and Toughy and have come to delight in their quintessential Britishness. Please post more crossword solves.

@AFastidiousCuber 3 жыл бұрын

I don't speak Dutch. Would you care to elaborate a bit about what makes Dutch crosswords different from English ones? It sounds interesting.

@frschaddelee Жыл бұрын

@@AFastidiousCuber I suppose there are two main reasons: cryptic crosswords aren't as ingrained in our culture compared to the UK, and our language doesn't lend itself well for this type of wordplay in general. We lack the abbreviations, double meanings and homophones that make the English puzzles so elegant and clever, especially with these longer sentences. It's not impossible to still do the same tricks but it's easier to rely on short and witty definitions.

@tstacey2000 3 жыл бұрын

Reduction in chemistry is the opposite of oxidation - oxidation is the loss of electrons and reduction is the gain of electrons in a redox reaction.

@t71024 3 жыл бұрын

I wrote something about that but deleted it when I realized it seemed to be the wrong way around. The way I star in the kitchen, I guess it could also be a way of cooking. :-)

@Tombsar 3 жыл бұрын

OILRIG

@SpencerTwiddy 3 жыл бұрын

ap chem gang where u at

@Wecoc1 3 жыл бұрын

The Beast was the most frightening chaser among the participants until Smell came in.

@sportsjefe 3 жыл бұрын

I remember the first time they brought The Chase to GSN in the US; the Beast was the only chaser that came over because he was the only one who could be trusted with the American sport knowledge needed to play here.

@DarrenNakamura 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Simon! Chemist here. In chemistry, reduction is the term for the process that is the opposite of oxidation. It has to do with elements gaining or losing electrons.

@21deezer 3 жыл бұрын

The Chase, would never have looked for anything after finishing a crossword, Beast, Vixen, Destroyer, Governess and Bradlel Walsh

@DanFre40 3 жыл бұрын

Dave Gorman appeared on a celebrity edition of the chase and put £86,000 into the prize pot.

@AmaranthRBY 3 жыл бұрын

That London 007 clue is so creative, nice one!

@ardemus 3 жыл бұрын

No way! I just discovered Dave Gorman (I'm American) last week. I've been ploughing through Modern Life is Goodish and love his work. I never expected to see him on CTC.

@maplebear5183 3 жыл бұрын

I love these videos, even if going from the clue to the answer is completely wild to me. Also deoxidize is a chemistry term for a type of reaction where you “reduce” one of the reactants, just mentioned that because you seemed a tad disappointed that you weren’t fully aware of the connection to that clue

@nigelm5777 3 жыл бұрын

The United States and Great Britain are two countries separated by a common language. George Bernard Shaw, widely attributed beginning in the 1940s.

@rosiefay7283 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's often hard to understand Americans.

@MariaVlasiou 3 жыл бұрын

Those moments, when you make the tiniest deduction before Simon and you feel like a proper genius!

@Krysstof 3 жыл бұрын

not native english speaking here... I'm always watching these cryptic crossword with a "wt? am I watching!?" I looked for this kind of thing in french, I'm only finding english reference explaining how strange this stuff is, and I'm kind of glad :D (didn't look that hard, no way I'm ever trying this). Fun to watch though as I understand the explanation and the clues (Mark goes a bit fast on explanation sometimes, you are making more sense out of this mess a bit more)

@jertlemiah 3 жыл бұрын

"I'm such a muppet!" I don't know how yet, but I'm going to use that some how

@FirstLast-gw5mg 3 жыл бұрын

You've never heard the word "muppet" wielded properly till you've heard Gordon Ramsay use it on someone.

@KveruLars 3 жыл бұрын

I love watching these, but I cannot fathom even trying to decrypt a single clue on my own. Way too advanced for me 😅

@opalbeetle1981 3 жыл бұрын

I'm only slightly embarrassed to say, I started with the fairly simple cryptic in The Sun and quickly worked my way up to harder x words. weird, but the more you do, the more you understand and after a lot of them, the more I now can appreciate a really clever clue :D

@Rafabeen94 3 жыл бұрын

As an avid watcher of the chase, i made the connection as soon as Beast and Destroyer were found. Love that show and love your channel!

@msolec2000 3 жыл бұрын

I needed the Governess, but yeah. Very cool.

@kilimanjarocruz660 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, more Crypitcs on the channel. Always fascinating to see you and Mark breeze through them. Cheers from Brazil!

@Chloridamanada 3 жыл бұрын

Incredible stuff, so fun to watch. So sad to see only a bunch of views down here. But me myself, a non-english speaker, would never solve even a 1/10 of this puzzle. Thank you!

@bristolrovers27 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant crossword, I’m beginning to sense his style but I’m sure this was harder than the other two you did Great solve, this was really tough

@rewrose2838 3 жыл бұрын

Two of my favourite fun past times collide, and it's spectacular 😁

@theatog 3 жыл бұрын

I mean I know Simon has shown MANY impressive feat on deciphering clues... but heck.... 15:40 HOW? How do you look at "_S_N" and instantly AND DEFINITIVELY know for a fact that not a single English word fit that pattern?

@opalbeetle1981 3 жыл бұрын

Hmm, good question. it takes practice, cryptics get easier the more you learn about the clues and abbreviations etc. it's interesting how as the years go by more are slowly being added and many are so now so old fashioned, (but I love learning about older words through crosswords. ) back to the word though: pretty much only a vowel could go between s and n. so- its not too hard to try each vowel there, then run through the alphabet trying for the first letter. Or...in English we don't have many words with a consonant before s, only p or t as far as I can think, so you narrow down the options quickly and, with added experience, it just looks wrong - nothing fits. ooh I love words :)

@martysears 2 жыл бұрын

because they would really have to both be vowels in the missing spaces, so you're basically just considering AS_N, ES_N, IS_N, OS_N, US_N... and if there was a word that fitted one of those I think it would immediately leap out at you

@euanmcdougall1917 3 жыл бұрын

For anyone wondering, Know-all is the word for clever clogs used in 6 Down

@SpencerTwiddy 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if "avowal" is a reference to Wheel of Fortune

@jodyvanliew2514 6 ай бұрын

Such a very clever puzzle . Kudos to the constructor .

@jlestinajr 3 жыл бұрын

Just wow. Come for the Sudokus, feel like an absolute pleb from the crosswords. Impressive.

@smrqunofficial 3 жыл бұрын

I got CLEANLIER and MENACE right away! I'm so excited lol. These videos have taught me so much!

@CrosswordRobert 3 жыл бұрын

I really need to work on my cryptic skills. Some of these were insane!

@eddeh0772 Жыл бұрын

Every time he says “ah, easy one!”, I die a little

@katherineburkett6229 3 жыл бұрын

"O, O, A-A-A-A, E- no" lmao I was watching it at 2x the speed 🤣

@Coyotek4 3 жыл бұрын

Across the pond, we now have "The Professor", "The Buzzsaw", and "The High-Roller".

@salfordnurse 3 жыл бұрын

EN = Enrolled Nurse

@sebrofniloc 3 жыл бұрын

Finally got round to watching this. Thanks for filling in the blanks I just couldn't fathom!

@erickehr4475 3 жыл бұрын

I solved that without noticing a link, and not sure I’d have spotted it even if I tried.

@gordonglenn2089 3 жыл бұрын

Far from the toughest British newspaper cryptic I have seen, but there sure were some obscurities. I solved the whole thing, with a LOT of help from the "check your errors" function, but still did not understand the wordplay on several clues. Glad to have Simon explain them to me. As I am an American who doesn't even watch US television, the theme was far out of my reach.

@shifttheshaman 3 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to our newest Chaser: "Erotica"! (Oxidation and Reduction are kinda-opposite chemistry reactions involving electrons)

@comface 3 жыл бұрын

Can't help feeling the setter is trying so hard to be "a good setter" that they make the wordplay so convoluted that it's simply easier to always guess the definition and work backwards.

@hoagy_ytfc 2 жыл бұрын

Dave Gorman is a true genius!

@AngrySanta 3 жыл бұрын

This is a great video ask this, Will you be continuing the Instagram daily cryptic clue? I loved learning new cryptic tactics from it.

@Cream147player 3 жыл бұрын

I think the Dark Destroyer is a barrister i.e. shyster. And obviously “cerebra” could be referring to the intelligence of the chasers. Some clues referred to stuff like “know-all” and “brainbox” too on the same point. “Trivial” referring to the fact it is a trivia show. That’s all I can spot, there’s probably more.

@Cream147player 3 жыл бұрын

Interestingly I just discovered there was a street in Leyland called “The Chase”. Coincidence? I’m unsure.

@neilharrington648 3 жыл бұрын

I saw the date on the bottom (9/2/21) and thought this crossword was from the future. I then immediately felt foolish, remembering that they're in Britain...

@jgreen2015 Жыл бұрын

Theme is the chasers Chase Beast Governess The Dark Destroyer Vixen (All chasers) Bradley Walsh (host)

@Alteram 3 жыл бұрын

Love that moment at 15:40 when you are like.. "What the he... What on earth is this..."

@charlottestang9462 3 жыл бұрын

deoxidate is to reduce in terms of chemical reactions. oxidation and reduction reactions are opposites

@jatarokemuri4549 3 жыл бұрын

in chemistry, reduction is the opposite of oxidation. so I think deoxidate is reduce in that way

@Godishus 3 жыл бұрын

I would have guessed the theme to be incredibly cryptic clues.

@michaelhill4091 3 жыл бұрын

Enjoy the crossword solves.

@kelseyredford219 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like this would have been a bit easier if I were British.

@tricia1072012 3 жыл бұрын

I'm British and still haven't got a scooby...

@cycklist 3 жыл бұрын

Great to see a crossword video although this is as easy as cryptics get. How about a barred one?

@KalOrtPor 3 жыл бұрын

The Monthly Club Special solves by Mark are on Patreon and it's worth the price for that alone, they're incredibly hard and you'll also come away thinking there's no one else in the world who could solve them without a dictionary, and as fast as he does. He is 12-time and reigning champion, after all.....If Tom Brady wins another 5 Super Bowls he'll be as successful at American football as Mark is at cryptic crosswords.

@Anne_Mahoney 3 жыл бұрын

If you think this is an easy cryptic, you're way beyond me!

@koenniehof2416 3 жыл бұрын

Don't worry Simon... Leyland is no more than a Hamlet

@rach6088 3 жыл бұрын

we need to get simon on the chase

@geooooooo Жыл бұрын

"Smell" might be a reference to Fanny Chmelar!

@SpencerTwiddy 3 жыл бұрын

17:36 - no Simon, I looked up "brainbox" in my dictionary and it just had your picture for the definition....

@t71024 3 жыл бұрын

My claim to fame is seeing the solutions to 17d and 31a a fraction of a second before Simon said them aloud.

@msolec2000 3 жыл бұрын

Ah, Simon. You have been very well caught, and for you, the chase is over.

@WheatGrinding 3 жыл бұрын

How exactly does he get knoll? I don't see how removing a w and an a gives that

@powt0wn 3 жыл бұрын

removing W and A from 'KNOW-ALL'!

@WheatGrinding 3 жыл бұрын

@@powt0wn aha! I think I just heard "knoll" both times. That makes sense, thanks!

@rdmprotey 3 жыл бұрын

@8:20 The choice of sides for normal, you are choosing to keep the 'N' from the side of 'normal' and not the 'L'.

@RichSmith77 3 жыл бұрын

Merriam-Webster online dictionary has "norma" meaning standard. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/norma I like Simon's explanation of the answer, otherwise there's no reason for "newsroom" to appear in the clue. Choice of ends of newsroom -> n or m.

@vidiia 3 жыл бұрын

18:28 china plate = mate

@oscarbarnes2130 3 жыл бұрын

Norton in the radio clue is Graham Norton a radio presenter who used to be/is on BBC radio 2 on saturdays.

@chrisjlocke 3 жыл бұрын

2:53 - Crikey, and I thought clues on Ted Rogers' 3-2-1 were convoluted! ;) "A summer run in the bucket ... bucket is metal, which could be a pin, so two pins is like making wine, you drink wine on Saturday, so the answer is 'bank'."

@rosiefay7283 2 жыл бұрын

Except that I found all those "Dusty Bin" clues on 3-2-1 weren't "hard" so much as "hopelessly vague".

@hammadniamatullah2297 3 жыл бұрын

The theme is Bradley Walsh and there are no Doctor Who references. I'm disappointed because that's the only place I know him from.

@15schaa 3 жыл бұрын

The theme is more The Chase than Bradley Walsh. The Chase is a quiz show Bradley hosts which pits contestants against one of six professional quizzers each with a nickname that was used as an answer: the BEAST, the GOVERNESS, the VIXEN, the MENACE, the SINNER/MAN, and the DARK/DESTROYER. Other answers such as CEREBRA and TRIVIAL, and clues that used words like "brainbox" and "clever clogs" also suggest the quiz show theme - and, of course, the answer in the centre of the puzzle was CHASE.

@charlessaintpe8574 3 жыл бұрын

@@15schaa someone noted that AVOWAL might be a reference to Bradley Walsh's appearance on Wheel of Fortune.

@zmaj12321 3 жыл бұрын

in what sense does "deserted" abbreviate to d?

@TheGroatesque1 3 жыл бұрын

If someone deserted from the Army his record would be marked with a D.

@zmaj12321 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheGroatesque1 I see. Thanks!

@BetrayedCow 3 жыл бұрын

Pardon my ignorance on crosswords, but is this sort of word and structure play that Simon used to solve the clues a standard part of crosswords, except with easier puzzles you can get the clue without diving into that level of word play, or are these types of clues particular to a certain style or publisher of crosswords? Because I’ve always noticed crossword clues being worded a bit...strangely sometimes, but never noticed this sort of multiple levels of clues within clues and the answer itself being inside the clue as well.

@KalOrtPor 3 жыл бұрын

These types of crosswords aren't very well known in the US.

@BetrayedCow 3 жыл бұрын

@@samr9408 oh okay, cool! Thank you!

@BetrayedCow 3 жыл бұрын

@@KalOrtPor that probably explains it then

@martysears 2 жыл бұрын

yeh in the UK there are very much two types of crossword... standard and cryptic. Cryptic crosswords have very specific rules to solve them, that take a while to get the hang of

@altcommand 3 жыл бұрын

I am in complete awe. Are all crosswords like this? Clues within clues and all sorts of wonky shit to lead you to answers? I thought it was just a trivia puzzle with intersecting words. Oh, and what is up with so many words having abbreviations that are just a single letter? Ridiculous!

@powt0wn 3 жыл бұрын

all cryptic crosswords are like this! non-cryptics are more like what you described

@martysears 2 жыл бұрын

it's ridiculous if you're not familiar with the rules of a cryptic crossword. Part of the fun is working out the hidden wordplay and abbreviations

@rosiefay7283 2 жыл бұрын

IME of cryptics, in crosswords by other setters, the wordplay-indications are usually more straightforward. Some of Dave's are a bit unusual. "Essentially" for middle letter, for example. And "every so often" for alternate letters -- I've seen similar from other setters, but only very rarely, and Dave Gorman's used it twice in the only two crosswords by him I've seen (this one and another video on this channel).

@mjkluck 3 жыл бұрын

Dr. Who.

@glum_hippo 3 жыл бұрын

'Deoxidate' is a chemical term. Reduce is completely synonymous. 'oxidation' and 'reduction' are opposite processes, just like mitosis and meiosis.

@euanmcdougall1917 3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say mitosis and meiosis are opposite. Just 2 different ways of replicating cells

@salmacis 3 жыл бұрын

Even after the explanation, almost none of these make any sense to me at all. That's why I prefer Sudoku.

@martysears 2 жыл бұрын

Sodoku wouldn't make sense if you didn't know the rules either :D

@louisemcelhill5748 Жыл бұрын

Feeling very discouraged. ENDED, N did. I got a few, but I honestly want to just give up. NOOSE, n 007 e, NOOSE. This is too convoluted for me.

@ProductionStops 3 жыл бұрын

I'm completely lost on crossword puzzles and I wish I wasnt

@peterjongsma2779 2 жыл бұрын

Simon is not on the way to being a Streaked Cobra. Solve and Like. Answer in Reply to me.

@charlessaintpe8574 3 жыл бұрын

Is anyone else trying to solve the title of the video?

@Forriedude 3 жыл бұрын

Comic book theme?

@carstenbeinecke5493 3 жыл бұрын

UK and Germans have a very different understanding of what a crossword puzzle is. 🤭

@geoffroi-le-Hook 3 жыл бұрын

and USAmericans have a third idea

@martysears 2 жыл бұрын

haha this is just a cryptic crossword, not all British crosswords are cryptic. But I think cryptic crosswords are not very popular outside Britain

@kameronpeterson3601 3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see one of these with a more american lexicon

@KalOrtPor 3 жыл бұрын

They're unfortunately not that popular in the US, I'd even say largely unknown. It'd be like trying to have the best snooker players competing in world tournaments operating in the US....The setters for these use UK dictionaries like Chambers and are full of wordplay using foreign words and roots, slang and archaic European turns of phrases, lots of international places and terms most people in the US are unfamiliar with. And clever wordplay is just not as much an American thing, which is why they're considered an acquired taste. There's just something about British culture and how words are used that lends itself well to these, like in the way someone will say "I haven't got a scooby" or "get that down your gregory"....The New Yorker recently started doing some again, but they're nowhere near the level of these both due to the audience and that the top constructors who have been doing them for a long time are overseas.

@geoffroi-le-Hook 3 жыл бұрын

GAMES World of Puzzles usually has about four per issue