How To Do Proper Gain Staging When Recording Drums!

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Trey Xavier

Trey Xavier

6 жыл бұрын

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@treyxaviermusic
@treyxaviermusic 6 жыл бұрын
I know, I know - I suck at the drums. But I did it for science.
@ColinWrightson
@ColinWrightson 6 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Trey as soon as Alex clips the shit out of the drums and Trey almost dies with his headphones
@treyxaviermusic
@treyxaviermusic 6 жыл бұрын
yeah we didn't really consider that beforehand hahahaha. at least I kept going so I didn't ruin the take, I should have yelled hahaha
@michaelbennett8981
@michaelbennett8981 4 жыл бұрын
@@treyxaviermusic Not very Godly. Bloody annoying in fact! Not just for Trey...
@chad_kaya
@chad_kaya 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! This is something that I totally overlooked for like 6 yrs after I started mixing. Actually only learned how to do it properly like a month ago, but it's made so much difference in the way my mixes turn out. Funny how sometimes the boring things are actually the most important. (Came to to see what you set your overhead levels at.) Thanks!
@REFondrums
@REFondrums 3 жыл бұрын
Just what I was searching for and needed to see. Thanks!
@Benjamenvince
@Benjamenvince 2 жыл бұрын
This helped out a lot. Thanks!
@angelalfonso3647
@angelalfonso3647 4 жыл бұрын
My hi-tom and two floors are always clipping, this really helped to know that going in the negatives are okay.
@-l_gavin_l-
@-l_gavin_l- 6 жыл бұрын
Nice demonstration and explanation of how to set gain levels, Alex!
@alexnasla
@alexnasla 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man :D
@-l_gavin_l-
@-l_gavin_l- 6 жыл бұрын
👍
@stephenm.french8380
@stephenm.french8380 3 жыл бұрын
I'm new to recording drums and I also use version Cubuse 10.5 that came with my Zoom H6 recorder. I now have a Focusrite 18i20. What is the relationship between setting the gain knobs on the interface to setting the gain levels on the input channels within Cubase?
@Ladelvideovault
@Ladelvideovault Жыл бұрын
Unless you have another component before your audio interface, like Trey's Audient ASP880 with its own gain knobs, the input gain knobs on your Focusrite are the primary gain knobs. These knobs control the input signal before they are sent to the recording program, (Cubase). In Cubase, and throughout most of your plug-ins, there's also normally "make up" gain knobs or sliders used to control the signal before and after an effect. Use Cubase's channel meter to monitor the input level as you adjust the input gain on the focusrite. I have a similar set up and you can't get a detailed level with the focusrite VU meter on the 18i20. good luck.
@THETHINKINGMINDS
@THETHINKINGMINDS 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there, great tutorial, thanks for posting it. I'd like to ask you, how to gain stage after my song is recorded. Thanks a lot.
@georgebushy
@georgebushy 6 жыл бұрын
How would you set the OH left and right channel because obviously the hat side would naturally be louder. Would you balance the two sides or how would you approach it?
@CharlieLord
@CharlieLord 6 жыл бұрын
At this point I'd be trying to get both peaking at similar level on the preamp, then balance them out on the fader in daw so kick/snare (your choice) is up the middle. May as well minimise the noise and maximise the resolution you have to play with.
@chiefindisguise
@chiefindisguise 6 жыл бұрын
Recording levels should be peaks at -6dB, -12-dB or -18dB?
@alexnasla
@alexnasla 6 жыл бұрын
Between -12dB and -6dB is where you wanna be
@monkeyxx
@monkeyxx 6 жыл бұрын
I still thought the levels were a little too hot
@insertanynameyouwant5311
@insertanynameyouwant5311 6 жыл бұрын
why am I watching this, even in nightmares I`ve never processed real drums lol
@RudyAyoub
@RudyAyoub 6 жыл бұрын
Anti Phase same lol, dont let Glenn Fricker hear us
@insertanynameyouwant5311
@insertanynameyouwant5311 6 жыл бұрын
Well in case he will Fuck you Glenn!
@RudyAyoub
@RudyAyoub 6 жыл бұрын
ou Glenn is daddy
@jwest31176
@jwest31176 3 жыл бұрын
It's not real difficult. Mic placement and gain staging is key 🔑 👌
@danson1992
@danson1992 6 жыл бұрын
Way too many producers either dont understand how to not clip or dont give a shit about clipping and the song becomes ruined as a result
@michaelbennett8981
@michaelbennett8981 4 жыл бұрын
Good demo, but the constant reconfirmation of clipping wore very thin after the 3rd time. A bit of preparation for levels would have made learning less annoying - Too hot > volume down. Gain staging levels fixed > turn up the volume. It would have highlighted the point you where making by showing how hot signals ruin songs, and saving our ears at the same time. Pretty basic stuff. It's a common problem with many (sub-mortal-made) KZfaq videos. -12 dB is a safe level to gain stage when recording.
@onejaelee4682
@onejaelee4682 4 жыл бұрын
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@RobKingRC
@RobKingRC 3 жыл бұрын
I can see Trey getting a little red like the level's. 😡
@pierronry
@pierronry 4 жыл бұрын
No sense of ear fatigue, letting it clip WAY too long, hurting any listeners ear. Even the drummer is taking his headphones off because it's clipping through his cue mix. Just generally bad practice and we got the idea after you did it with the kick.
@greatdrumcovers1768
@greatdrumcovers1768 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe get a more experienced drummer... All I could hear are those hi hats.
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