Nah it shouldn’t be sad cause Hilda Berg is super hard to S rank

Yeah, Roundabout is I would say one of the best weapons in the game, and it's pretty decent for its EX damage. Again, 100% bring Spread, but the second weapon can be up to you,.

yeah used it for that and it was really nice

lol I use chaser and roundabout

well sure but spread takes care of the demons the same if not better, and I feel as lobber is better in phase 1

I used round a bout and spread for the devil charm is chalice AND I WON

Honestly, that seems pretty unnecessary. They're not hard to defeat at all and you're losing a charm slot when you could be using something like HEART RING especially. Turning for a half second to defeat a minion (which you don't even have to do anyways, just jump over them tbh) is more than a fair exchange for using something like Heart Ring or Coffee as your charm.

​@@MrKapdivine relic can help

I hope so too! I got a 1:37 on the unedited playthrough and I'm pretty sure I got that because I was spamming the HELL out of my EX's, so make sure to do that. 😁

I'll make sure My usual load out is a Peashooter and Spread shot. (I still with Peashooter cause I love it's EX move.) And the Astral Cookie since I prefer chalices play style alot more then the cups themselves. Which means I don't get heart ring but I have a lot more movement options which I rather have to get around some of the devil's first phase alot more easier

@@demonarcher1661 I can definitely see why you'd be using Ms. Chalice. Her roll, honestly easier mobility, and extra health I feel are more than enough to S rank The Devil. The Peashooter pick does kind of confuse me though. I understand that it's a weapon you like and it's EX is satisfying to use, but I think I'm being reasonable when I say you're slightly limiting yourself on your efficiency and effectiveness in beating The Devil. In the end, really just go with what you're comfortable with, but it is a good point to make I think. Many of the other weapons are more effective for this fight, namely Lobber, Roundabout, and Twist Up. Lobber has higher damage and more consistent damage with its EX, Roundabout is great mainly for its ridiculous EX shot damage but ALSO its effectiveness in clearing minion-like enemies (in this case the purple demons during the first phase and the purple WINGED demons during the 3rd phase) and Twist Up is pretty easy to hit here and also its ridiculous EX damage output. Again, I'm not trying to diss your choice of Peashooter, but nonetheless I would like mention this in case you're only using Peashooter because you LIKE IT and nothing else. I REALLY like Spread, but I can definitely understand that it's just not the best or right weapon for the job sometimes.

@@MrKap oh it's fully fair. Maybe it's Stockholm syndrome after my peashooter only challenge I did awhile back is why I just use it no matter what. Before that I always go with a good charge or Crack shot with the spread. I adore lobber and tried to use it more but even I have limits to how much I can stomach it with how I play. So I usually go with something I know I can rely more on myself. Heck with my best time with S rank Devil (Being 1:44) is with Charge and Spread. So maybe I'll go back to that usual load out I used to do.

Fair enough lol. If you're really trying to get a fast time, Coffee really does seem like the choice for you so you can spam EX shots. 👍

Yeah! I do that if I mess up my jump or something similar. I didn't even think about mentioning that alternative way of jump dashing. I appreciate the comment!

@@MrKap You're welcome!

Never realized that the falling chips actually had a pattern, thought they were just random. If this is true, then that's a great tip!

I really appreciate it!

Ah that's true about doing Whetstone parries during at least phase 2 and 3. With that, it still feels a biiittt speed-runny and unnecessary though if you know what I mean; like the goal is not exactly to beat The Devil as fast as possible, but to S Rank him by any means. The guides I make are mainly for people that are struggling in any way S Ranking that boss, so of course I recommend the loadout that will give them the best chances and opportunities to S Rank the boss. While I definitely see now Whetstones use in the fight, it still feels a bit unnecessary to complicate all your buttons presses, especially when you have something like Heart Ring at your disposal that keeps you in the fight for longer and objectively gives you a higher chance of achieving that S Rank, unlike Whetstone which is solely for dealing damage (although you could argue that dealing more damage means you're getting past the boss faster, at the very least it's not as safe as literally having 2 extra HP using Heart Ring since you HAVE to get 3 parries anyways for the S Rank). If you don't have Heart Ring, then I could see with someone going with Whetstone instead. I appreciate the comment!

Hey, it worked! With heart ring, I not only made it to the third phase on my first try, but beat the devil within 10 tries. granted, I didn't S rank him, or even A+ him, I had 1 hp by the end of the fight. The first phase was still really hard, and even when I beat him, I think I just got a good pattern and he never used the 5 fireball attack that I can't dodge to save my life. And then phase 3 was also really hard, it was just a total clusterfrick. And I ended up using the same invincibility trick shown here to skip phase 4, because at that point, my nerves were too shot to do it legitimately.

Possibly...

Because the majority of players will not be playing as Ms. Chalice. You don't HAVE to use the DLC to get S Ranks, however I still recommend DLC equipment if it's the most effective means of beating the boss, but still recommending other options for people that don't have the DLC. And also, Ms. Chalice can play generally the same as Cuphead and Mugman, but not the other way around, so it's much easier to learn bosses playing as Cuphead and Mugman and then playing Ms. Chalice once you have a strong understanding of the fundamentals of playing the game Cuphead.

@@MrKap i Just used Ms chalice because this was my 2nd playthrough of the game

lol

I actually beat it with your own invice

For sure, but with how the hitboxes are for all of the phases, there really isn't a reason to use such a weapon like Crackshot. Excluding the first phase, you're ALWAYS in close contact to the active hitbox of the Devil, so weapons that work best closer up shine well here. If you want to use it as a safety measure or if you're not confident enough just yet, then honestly go ahead. But I'd advise trying to actually get good at each of his phases before attempting any actual S Rank attempts so you can bring what's best for the fight. Or you can just cheese with Crackshot and Heart Ring to have an extra 3 HP available while using Ms. Chalice's Shield Pal Super for even more protection... That works too...